Introduction to Infrared Photography (2022)
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Great video. I am currently having my Canon 90D modified for full spectrum. I am just now exploring astrophotography, but have realized the amazing potential of IR. I am also awaiting the delivery of your book “Color Doesn’t Exist:…”. Thank for such in-depth information!!
Very complete and interesting video. Probably the best on you tube for this curiosity topic. For beginners I recommend trying to full convert a cheap digital camera. You can find some old Nikon d70 - very easy to convert with some CZcams tuto with only 2 ribbon cables to disconnect and reconnect and non soldering concern - for less than 50€.
thank you sir! I am here to stay.
Congratulations on the book. You have been an invaluable source of information & help on my Infrared journey. Lots more to learn.
Rob, your channel, your website are simply amazing for someone starting out with that topic. I just ordered a print copy of your book.
Thanks!
I love shooting IR.
It's fascinating to see something that's we cannot see with our own eyes.
But what's most amazing is how humans where made to see the full array of colors from 400nm to 625nm. How did this happen? God created us in an amazing way. Gave us the ability to see full colors. Awesome!
Excellent video, I am new to IR and you provide quality info.
Thank you, you’re a very good teacher, I ordered your book as well. 😊
Thank You Sir, You Are A Amazing Speaker , I love How You Present Your Videos, I'm Here To Stay On You Chanel For All My Photography Videos > Thank You
Excellent video even today. 👍
Thank you from Thailand
Rob, I have a full spectrum Fuji X-T20 from LifePixel that I am using to slowly learn more about IR photography. I am truly a fan of the chrome filter for both the look and simplicity of the image. What I didn't see or hear mentioned in the presentation is the benefit of having a full spectrum camera on a trip to can double as a backup body with the use of a Kolari UV/IR Cut Hot Mirror Pro 2 filter for visible light photography. I bring the Kolari filter sized for my normal lenses as it does not have the concern of lens flare in visible light. As with you, I stay in the Fuji ecosystem with my X-T5, but having the X-T20 along is fun and insurance on photo trips.
You can only fit so much into one presentation. I've got more videos on the subject of camera conversion and it is covered extensively in my book. www.colordoesntexist.com
You explain everything. I’m having a camera converted to full spectrum and will use it for Astro and IR photography
Excellent lecture Rob, grateful for the added resources.
Hey good sir I’m just driving down a country road here in New Jersey from shooting a little bit of infrared photography and brother I can’t tell you how much and how brilliant I am I opinion I feel your title your book is. It has an a mood of quality to it I meant to say emotive it just really captivate me man I’m curious Masco at what point in the whole juncture did you come up with that name? I’m really curious to know my question is when is there is no color the movie coming out? Lol next It’s
Thank you so much! And please don't read the book and drive. 😄 As for the title, I wanted something a little sassy to stand out. I'm fascinated by the concepts of perception exemplified by the "brain in a box" thought experiment. Many great works of science fiction cover this topic, from The Matrix to Old Man's War. I also wanted to avoid titles too similar to other resources to avoid confusion. I collected a list of possible names and variations. While driving on a road trip in the Southwest, many of the resulting photos are in the book, I ran the list of ideas by my friend Landon, and he liked the bold title, as did Tony, the book editor. Ultimately, color is just a pigment of your imagination. 😂
That was by far the best instructions I have see online for IR. I am getting my X-T2 converted and should have back soon and this will help me get started in a structured way with a learning curve that makes sense.
Excellent video, appreciated
hey rob, great channel with lots of information
i am using a Leica M10M at the moment and i am currently waiting for the delivery of a second hand phase one achromatic+ digitalback (39mp first generation)
My first IR filter is also on the way to me and cant wait to start IR photography. Unfortunately the phase one back isnt full spectrum, the previous owner installed the UV and IR filter so i will use it as is for the moment, but i dont rule out the chance to convert it back to full spectrum later on.
now i will keep digging through your videos
cheers
Thank you!!
thanks for the excellent content
I’m getting into this. Thanks! I have a GFX100 and will use a HOYA R72 720nm IR filter on the GF110 f/2 lens (77mm). I’m about to shoot the Rockies at autumn. I also have an XT-3 laying around, maybe I’ll convert it. I just so addicted to my GFX100 though! 😆
The GFX system is awesome. I just which we had more wide options for IR. I might start trying vintage MF lenses.
@@robshea If it will stop raining for a day, I’m going to use my 77mm threaded HOYA R72 on the GF110 f2 and the GF23 f/4. I’ll let you know how those modern day MF lenses turn out. Thank you for your amazing content, and for the inspiration! I am retired and am going to WY/CO/NM western slopes for 4-6 weeks camping. We’ll see how the Aspen’s turn out in IR.
@@heavysighs It appears the only good GF primes are the 45mm, 110mm, 120mm, and 250mm. The rest have hot spots. For zooms, the 45-100mm and 100-200mm are good. Not sure about the newer GF lenses.
@@RobShea0 Aah, great information. I only have 4 lenses. The 23, 50, 110, and the 250 (also the 1.4 teleconverter). I’m going to use the GFX100S profile since its the same sensor. I can send you a raw image if you like from my GFX100 if you’d like. I’m excited to try it out! I’m sure there’ll be a share of fails. 😝
@@heavysighs The GF 50mm has a hot spot at f/11 and higher, so it should be fine at f/8 and lower. The GFX 100S profile probably will not work with the GFX 100. Each profile is camera specific and will only appear for the specified camera. Send me a raw and I will add a profile for it. 590.red/share
Hi Rob I’m curious what iso setting do you use most of the time? Thank s for all you wonderful videos.
When shooting with a converted camera in broad daylight, I shoot with the lowest ISO supported by my camera, usually 100 or 200. I will increase the ISO when I need more shutter speed, such as shooting in shade, shooting closer to sunset with less light, or when using a long lens.
Thank you so much for that great lesson! The better one I've seen so far. A question, Rob: can I make that constrast B&W with deep black sky with a filter R72 and uncoverted camera, it using the tools that video?
You can convert any IR image to monochrome. Higher numbered filters will produce darker skies. With lower numbered filters, such as 590 nm, you may need to due more processing in your editor to produce the same effect. You should be able to get close, it just depends on the image and your editor.
Great video Rob. Would you recommend viewing composition using a monochrome profile?
To improve the view in your viewfinder, you could use a monochrome profile in your camera. Of course, be sure that you are shooting raw. You can also set a custom white balance. When shooting raw, this will not limit you WB options in editing, but it can improve what you see in the view finder from a sea of red some something more manageable.
hi Rob, I got my first converted camera in the way and i already have R72 Hoya "720nm" filter, If my main goal is false color and color swaping will the R72 work or should i get 550 or 590 filte. thank you for everything ur doing for this community
The R72 will work great. It will produce lightly saturated colors. Go ahead and do some shooting and editing with it. If you prefer a more standard saturation, you can get a 590nm filter. If you prefer a highly saturated look, then use 550nm. Of course, with any of these, you will be able to tweak the saturation in your raw editor.
@@robshea ill try the r72 first then I the 590nm extremely over priced imo the orange 21 from tiffen is more appropriately priced thank you so much
Hi Rob. I just ordered your Luts. I assume you don’t need to set the white balance with the camera’s proprietary software. Thanks.
So longer as you are shooting in raw, setting a WB in camera is not required.
Hi. Been learning a lot from you. Thank you for the video. I would also like to find out about how you maintain you gear, especially sensor cleaning for a full spectrum camera. Am aware that there is a glass plate on a regular stock camera. So using wet cleaning method, we are just cleaning the glass surface. May I know if this wet cleaning method is also applicable for naked sensor after full spectrum mod?
I use a standard sensor cleaning kit with swaps and fluid. The only difference compared to my standard unconverted cameras is that I need to clean more frequently, due to changing lenses and filters more often. This is especially true the camera that uses clip-in filters in the flange as changing these allows for more dust to reach the sensor. A proper full spectrum conversion should replace the hot mirror filter with a full spectrum glass filter. Otherwise, the risk of damaging a naked sensor is too high.
@@robshea thanks. Mine is a naked sensor without any elements in front after the conversion. Agree with you that it is a dust magnet. I usually send my regular camera to canon customer service for cleaning, but as this is a modified camera, they won't accept it for professional cleaning. So I need to learn how to clean a naked sensor on my own. Just worried that the solution for wet cleaning contains compounds that could be harmful to the naked sensor.
@@kerhlin Good luck. I hope you find a safe solution!
Is there a group to join for IR enthusiasts? Trained on large formate, on pause for the digital, ready to jump back in. Thinking Sigma Fovenon.
There are numerous IR groups on Facebook. There are regularly IR discussions in the DP Review forum.
Are you in california? I recognize yosemite. Do you do customer balance prior to shooting or do it in post normally?
I spend a few years living in California. I prefer to shoot in raw and set a white balance while editing.
Hey, im not sure if you have talked about this or not yet but, i am using an unconverted canon R6 and was planning on getting the Hoya R72 filter and just living with any hot spots and masking them out if they are not to bad. I was wondering though when im composing a shot i know it shows up red but would you get a more accurate view of what the picture might look like through live view if you set your camera to shoot B&W?
I recommend setting a custom WB in camera on a neutral subject for the purpose of being able to better see your composition. This will not be a true representation of the final colors of the image, you will still need to set a WB in your editor for raw images, but it can help you avoid a blob of red in your viewfinder.
hi Rob, I'm considering buying an 830 or 850nm filter for an unconverted mirrorless camera. Do you have a steer on which brands I should stick to? I'm really keen to get that striking black skies look!
Here are the deep infrared filters that I would recommend. On an unconverted camera, these will require very long exposures, 3-5 minutes. Hot pixels can be an issue. The images will be color and require processing to be monochrome.
- B+W 093 (830 nm)
- Life Pixel Deep BW IR (830 nm)
- Kolari Vision Deep Black and White (850 nm)
- STC Optics IRP 850 (850 nm)
- Hoya RM90 (900 nm)
For shorter exposures on an unconverted camera, 15-30 seconds, here are the traditional infrared filters I recommend. You can darken the sky in processing.
- Hoya R72 (720 nm)
- Kolari Vision Standard IR (720 nm)
- Life Pixel Standard IR (720 nm)
- STC Optics IRP 720 (720 nm)
- Tiffen #87 (740 nm)
@@robshea thanks Rob, that's much appreciated. It sounds like the processing route with a shorter wavelength filter might be more practical. Have you done a video showing how to edit a '720nm image' to appear like deep IR monochrome?
@@adamduckett8855 This video "Shoot & Edit Infrared Photos with ANY Camera" should give you a good starting point. czcams.com/video/ej-6iz9fuLE/video.html
@@robshea thanks Rob - and great work with the channel! A great source of information and inspiring photos!
so i can remove the hot filter from a a7ii and do not have to buy fullspectrum filter?
Removing the hot mirror filter from any camera makes it a full spectrum camera. I would recommend replacing the hot mirror filter with a clear filter to protect the sensor from damage.
Does the tamron 28 75 g2 have hotspots?
How much do you have to reduce the whitebalance with the Sony a7riii?
You can find links here to research how specific lenses perform in IR. 590.red/lenses
How much of a color balance shift you need to get a good white balance depends on the filter you are using and your camera sensor. The Infrared Profile Pack contains two profiles for each camera. This covers most cases. 590.red/infrared-profile-pack
Hello Rob!!! I stumbled upon your channel and I totally love it!!! I'm a landscape photographer that loves color, but I also love black white photography! I immediately ordered an received a Hoya filter for my Sony cameras! First time out was July 8, images look ok but are not as sharp I would like. I did manual focusing through the electronic view finder! I will try using focus peaking next time! I did not know about the problem with defraction at f14 and f11. I will try again at f7.1. Is there any problems with heat Haze and IFR light??? I live in Florida and it is super hot here now! New subscriber!
Excellent! I created a video on diffraction in IR. You will certainly want to use a lower f-stop. My next video will also be a follow-up on the subject if diffraction. czcams.com/video/s54xMINUwVg/video.html
Hi I am looking for a 70-200 mm vintage lens to do infrared 850nm on my sony A7r. Which one would you recomment. Very little info out there concerning hotspots on vintage manual lenses.
I collect info about vintage lenses here: 590.red/vintage
I haven't tested any 70-200mm vintage lenses specifically.
If my Fuki X-M1 is not on your list of DNG profiles, but another XE or XT camera, with the same sensor is, can I just use the XE or XT profile?
Each camera needs it's own profile. Follow these instructions to have it added: blog.robsheaphotography.com/infrared-profile-pack#add-camera
Hello!
I am having issues with my color profile imports. Adobe odes not let me import my color profile that lowers the temperature.
Is there another way around this? I have tried Lightroom CC, Lightroom, and installing and uninstalling both as well. I have the raw infrared files on my computer but I cannot do anything to edit these correctly. Do you have any suggestions?
Try the installation instructions here: blog.robsheaphotography.com/infrared-profile-pack/#installation
If you still have issues, here is a blog article that can help to troubleshoot: 590.red/where-profiles
A warning to photographers needing conversions (to infra-red, astro, etc.) or camera repair: Stay away from Spencer’s Camera in Utah, which bills itself as doing work for NASA; they have photographers recommending them on YT videos and so on. The are outright crooks; no other way to put it.
Back in February I sent them two Canon T6s, both for sensor cleaning, one for conversion to Infra-red. I made it clear I needed it done quickly as I am on the road in my RV, etc. They said no problem, about $375. Okay.
It took more than 6 weeks, with no answer on their phone (filled up voice mail). They finally returned my emails saying everyone was ‘at a workshop’ in Canada. Aggravating.
The eventual package was so poorly wrapped that one T6 was sticking out of a ragged hole. There was no invoice or receipt or even an indication of which T6 was converted, which was merely cleaned. I went online to my bank to see that they ‘rounded up’ to $400.00 on my cc. No invoice indeed. Would have been iffy to round up. But the real reason was only one camera was actually worked on, the conversion. I assume they didn’t want to put a lie on paper since both cameras still had filthy sensors and are useless.
I wanted to have it on record, so I used email to complain. My two emails went unanswered. This is a well-known company (NASA, etc) but they obviously do not care (in the extreme) about us peons. I have posted the first photos out of my cameras on my blog if you want to see what they… didn’t do and over-charged me for it after being 4 weeks late. I’m a well thought-of writer (3 books, many TV/feature scripts) named Allan Weisbecker; I have worked professionally as a photographer (including covers) for magazines like Smithsonian, Men’s Journal, Popular Photography, and so on. Google me and do a search for my blog if you want to verify what I’m saying (and see the dirty pics). ‘Allan C Weisbecker + blog’. Look for the title ‘Spencer’s Cameras Are Crooks’.
Has anyone ever tried infrared with the Fuji XC 35mm F2? Been thinking of buying it but can't find any evidence on hotspots performance
I haven’t seen any reports as of yet. If you try it in IR, let me know the results. 590.red/xf
cannot download camera profile pack! please help
@5uryawanshi Use this link to download: 590.red/ipp
Sorry anyone? i dont understand !!! in the video, from 11:23 to 12:28min , first it say a filter from 470nm to 665nm (while the color graphic showing aselection between orange >590 to infrared ). then he say at 12.20 if u go lower at 550nm the orange filter. before we wasnt supposed to be even lower at 470nm ?? im specially interested into the 12:03 pictures where we can endup with a blue sky a kind of pink result! If we want catch the blue sky we should have a filter to go down as 470nm for blue light isnt ?
Update i saw photos show same result as 12:03 pictures kind with a filer at 720nm, so out the 665nm range !! so i am ever more confuse
With a converted camera, you can capture color infrared images using infrared high-pass filters ranging from 470 to 720 nm. The most commonly used are those from around 590 to 720 nm. Lower-numbered high-pass cut-offs introduce more visible light, giving you more color saturation and contrast. The image at 12:03 was shot with a 590 nm converted camera.
The pink color results from a color swap then tweaking the hue of the colors when processing. In an upcoming video, I'll talk about using a combination of filters on a full spectrum camera to achieve a pink foliage look without any processing.
For most color IR images, the blue sky results from the color swap, which changes the red sky to blue. You can get a blue sky directly with the IR Chrome filter. Using a 470 nm filter would also capture blue sky and not require a color swap, it also captures many visible light colors in addition to IR wavelengths.
A 590 nm filter is a solid option which gives you realistic color saturation and flexibly when processing.
@@robshea Oh thanks u so much for took the time to reply me! after watch many of ur videos, i ready to start my first IR photos. I have an old Fujifilm XT1 camera who can be convert for this purpose! not sure about result but lets see ! gonna try with 720nm, 590nm filters !
@@xavierherent7191 X-T1 should be great! Good luck!
@@robshea Hi, sorry to botther u again with a question, but i go to shop for make a converted camera, so they simply removed the filter. But now my camera cant do focus from 2m to infinite. everything 2m away is blur. seem the IR layer have an optical function too. how can i deal with that ?
it s only english the book yes or no
Currently, the book is only available in English.
Hi Rob, awesome video.
After watching most of your CZcams content I have one big question:
Does all this work with video?
I have a recently IR cut filter removed original BlackMagic Pocket Camera (or what we could say a Full Spectrum camera, isn't it?).
I always shoot in RAW (DNGs) but I get lost when I have to apply the DCP. Is there any DCP for that camera? Any specific workflow?
Don't know If that could help but I use both DaVinci Resolve and Premiere Pro.
Besides that I am already waiting to get shipped a Kolari Vision IR Chrome Lens Filter. Would that reduce all that posproduction workflow?
Megajob with all your IR content, thanks.
If you are able to shoot video in RAW, then setting WB while shooting is not critical. If you are not shooting RAW, then it is very important to set a WB before shooting. In DaVinci Resolve, and other video editors, you can set a WB and use color swapping LUTs. I've used these in Resolve to swap the color of IR video. You can download these LUTs and see videos on this here: 590.red/lut2
The IR Chrome filter would negate the need for a color swap, so you wouldn't need a LUT specifically for that.
A full spectrum BlackMagic sounds pretty cool. I don't know if Resolve supports DCP files, Premiere might. If you can send me a raw still from that camera, I can try to make a DCP file for it. 590.red/share
Alex, I received the file you sent, but it appears to be an audio file. Maybe you were trying to sent a raw image file?
Ups, ok
Uploading the files again.
There are 3 .zips each one with a folder with wav audio and a DNGs Sequence of Images.
Thats how the BMPCC organize files.
@@xpsacks It looks like the DNG files from the BMPCC only contain an embedded profile, not the dual-illuminant profile required to create a DCP file. Is this the only raw file format supported by the BMPCC? This means that you are limited to white balancing within the editor.
@@robshea yaps. It only shoots that and prores.
The BMPCC4k can shoot BRAW but not the original one.
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Infrared has no colour like this, you atre looking at a fake photo.
It is correct that color doesn’t exist in infrared light. That sounds like a good name for a book. 🤓 The photo is real. The color processing technique is referred to as false color.
He created the images 😂