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In this video I build a Pentium III retro gaming system to participate in the Slot 1 Build Off proposed by Mike from Uncle Mike's Retro & Gaming.
System Specs
Pentium 3 800 MHz
Creative BlasterBoard 128
Voodoo 4 4500 PCI
384 MBs SD Ram
40 GB Hard Drive
SD to IDE Adapter 16 GB
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Music credits
1940's Slow Dance - Doug Maxwell/Media Right Productions
The Night Falling - JR Tundra
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I love this era of PCs so much. The Pentium III 800 is such an awesome CPU. And the Voodoo 4 is probably a perfect pair with this CPU, very period accurate. Great video 👍
Me too, Rami! I love this CPU, it has a great range of games it can play and the cartridge design is so cool. V4 is not doing so great apparently, but that's the retro life.
Except it's not.
The Voodoo4 4500 has been released in mid Oct. 2000 (and generally available weeks later) while the Pentium III 800/100 is from Dec. 1999, so almost 1 year older.
@@voodoofx1321Still the same period. One year is not a big difference.
@@jikissgamer Of course you can have your own interpretation, but "period correct" usually means using hardware that is from the same times and in late '90s / early '00 things were changing very, very fast. For instance, in 13 months (Mar. 99 - Apr. 00) nVidia went from a TNT2 to a GeForce 2 GTS which was like 200-300% faster, so I'd be careful to say things like "One year is not a big difference"
great video my friend! love the creative logo at the boot screen. 😍
Thanks, buddy! It is pretty unique, that boot screen, thanks for stopping by!
Sweet machine! Worthy entry into the race and great video as always.
Thank you, Rik! Appreciate you stopping by and taking a look at what I'm up to! =D
That's so cool, I didn't know creative had ever made a motherboard! The boot logo is awesome.
Thanks, indeed, it's interesting! Unfortunately the motherboard doesn't perform so we'll, so at some point I'm upgrading this. Probably making a permanent home for the voodoo 5. I think I'm using an athlon 1200+. Thanks for the comment, Ping!
Great Build Thanks for the video. I have that same Creative CD-Rom with the infra remote.
Hey, thanks! These cd-rom drives are so cool with their remotes! Unfortunately mine does have the remote, but someday I might stumble uppon one!
I rate it Slot 1 x 10.
Always nice to see Slot 1 machines in action.
Thanks for video.
Wow, thanks a lot! Thanks for taking some of your time to watch a video, I appreciate that very much, and as always, it was my pleasure making it. Cheers!
Wow, lovely choice of components.
Never had the chance to mess woth a voodoo 4.
Thanks, I'm glad you enjoyed it. Unfortunatelly the chipset on this motherboard doesn't want to play nice, seems to be impacting performance. I'll need to find something to replace that motherboard with at some point. Thanks for the comment.
Great build! I love the versatility of Slot 1!
Thank you! It was fun doing this one!
Very cool motherboard, and a unique choice of graphics card make this an interesting build
Thank you, Nathan! I actually think my v4 is ok, I did some tests with a v3 and really the system does the same thing, so I believe this motherboard is really the issue. It's a bit quirky and I'm trying to see if I can do something to get it working properly. Thanks for stopping by and for taking some of your time to comment, I always enjoy the input.
Nice one Sucra, good to see something a bit different and it certainly is!
Thanks, Ted! Yeah, not very common parts here, fun build!
Great presentation for the hardware. I was hoping the voodoo 4 would better then that. I'm glad you used the 800mhz cpu. Great job bro. 👍
Thanks! There's definitely something off. On Phil's V4 video it got over 7k on the same 3dmark, so I'm going to investigate what is up.
Nice build man.I have something similarly for Win98 and some dos games like Heretic ,Doom...
Mine have P3 550 Mhz,Voodoo3,Asus P3b-f,256mb ram etc.
Thanks, Dragan. I'm having performance issues due to this Chipset, so I won't be keeping this as a fixed build, I should build something that isn't limited by the Chipset.
Nice build, love the cdrom !
Thanks a lot! Thanks for stopping by!
Great video! Love the Voodoo4 card. They are super rare these days and hard to find!
Thanks! Yeah, me too, it's one of my favorite cards. Unfortunatelly I don't think it's doing so great. I'll have a follow up on it. Cheers!
That creative POST screen is sexy, I love it!
Thanks, it really makes it kind of unique!
What a fantastic build, Bruno! Thanks for sharing this one. This video was excellent, as always, and the build was brilliant, as usual! I adored the case, and that board! Wow! Just wow! A Creative BlasterBoard too? That motherboard is just too neat. The design screams late 90s/early 2000s, and the integrated SB PCI is pretty sweet. They're not the best soundcards, but they're super compatible and sound pretty good for General MIDI in DOS. In Windows, though, they're pretty nice overall; I had no idea about the EAX 1.0 support though! That's amazing! I really like this build; like really, REALLY like it! I am with you--it's one SEXY build, and it's perfect for the era! Oh, and I really liked how the retro-bright came out! It looks great, and the slightly-faded look has always been my vibe so yes! Amazing work again, and thanks for sharing this man! And thanks for collabing with me and OCR and Mike on this, it's been awesome!
Thanks, Will! It was my pleasure sharing, as always. I actually had no idea this board was a bit of a novelty until I put this thing together and started getting comments. Like most tings we find it didn't come complete in box, so it was an exercise trying to find out what model it was and chipset, an exercise you did participate in and I'm thankful for that. Yeah, EAX is reall cool, and I do wish to explore this combo a bit more, as long as I'm able to address the performance issues I'm having with it. I'm planning to flash a bios I can limit the mem burst packets, maybe that'll help. As usual it was a pleasure collaborating and I'm always up for more! Cheers, my friend, thank you for the support and friendship.
Love this! And I LOVE that splash screen! I've got a slot 1 machine I've been meaning to build myself, to replicate the machine that got me through highschool! It was a p3 500mhz, and I replaced my matrox m3d with an ATI AIW 7500. I'm so sour I sold the matrox now.. LOL oh well! Is there a time limit on this slot 1 build? I've not done a video before, so this might be a great place to start! :D
Thanks, man! Well, put it together then! We are still waiting on some big videos so, if you can deliver this week I think it's ok! Thanks again, and good luck on putting your system together!
You can get flicker-free footage of a CRT by locking your camera's shutter speed to a multiple of country's AC power frequency. I'm in the US where our power is 60Hz, so I always set my shutter speed to 1/30 when recording a CRT.
Hey, thanks for the tip. Yeah I know, but my only CRT runs at 72, a stepping my camera does not have. I need another CRT or another camera, one of the two.
I never knew that creative made motherboards!!
Before getting this one, me neither! Even after having it and seeing the logo I had to struggle to find out the model, but yeah, ends up it's actually sold by them. Thanks for stopping by!
Nice retro build 👌
Thanks! I'm glad you like it.
Ultra rare Voodoo4 PCI card. Some money there.
That's what I tell my wife when I bite on good deals with these parts. What I don't tell her is that I have no plans to ever sell 😂
Heyyyy nice build! So envious of the Voodoo 4! Now I'm seriously reconsidering my graphics card choice, but I've gone with 1999 so I want to be strict. Great video 🙂
Thanks, man! Oh don't be, unfortunately I don't think the v4 is doing so great. Oh, use the card that you'll get the more enjoyment out of! Have fun!
Great build, you can use it for Glide games along with playing Baldurs Gate 1/2, Total Annihilation, Starcraft, Icewind Dale and many other great 2D games from the past or even take with you that PC to LAN party with network card installed. I used with my Pentium II 350 Acorp 6BX motherboard, that board also was very small and with even AT/ATX PSU's support.
Thanks, Andrew! Sweet man, I got Baldurs Gate and Icewind Dale bix boxes in a great deal from a good friend, just waiting to go in a system. Unfortunately I don't have a local community of retro pc enthusiasts to have a lan party like so, but that would be very cool. Thanks for stopping by, have a great weekend!
@@SUCRA Thank you very much, you can also start and build that community at your country. Or community with just good people with good heart.
Good work
Thanks! 👍
In Deus Ex you can also use the timedemo 1 command and the current and also average fps will be displayed.
Thanks, I'll try that next time!
Great video i like the voodoo4 choice and the pentium 3 800 but i think something i holding you back,i get better fps from a voodoo3 k6 3 400 mvp3 system.
Hey, thanks! You're right, I've been investigating this since yesterday. Originally I thought the V4 was shot, but I tried a V3 and I get the same thing. It's to do with the motherboard and caching instructions from CPU to PCI.
Very interesting build! I`ve never seen an integrated Sound Blaster motherboard. Nice match with the Creative optical DD. But...the numbers in benchmarks and games don´t look right, shouldn´t they be higher considering were are talking about a Voodoo4 paired with a PIII 800mhz? Maybe the chipset is to blame?
Hey, how's it going? Thanks! About the performance, I had no reference by heart but after uploading the video and looking into it I did see that performance wasn't what it was supposed to be. I did find out why, it is the chipset. It has as a default cpu to mem burst wr disabled, and when I enable it, although I get the performance, I also get lock ups. I have exhaustively tried different combinations in the bios with no luck. Right now I'm looking indo flashing the bios with another one that will let me limit the size of the packets used in mem burst to try and fix it. Thanks for watching and I hope that cleared that up for you.
@@SUCRAHow unfortunate. You could have taken the easy road and go 440BX, but it is nice and entertaining you experimented with something else. It is not that SIS chipsets are bad. There´s a Vogons thread showing certain SIS Tualatin chipset being the fastest. I wish you best of luck with the Bios flashing. Maybe a follow up video with good news? Take care!
@@con2botonesnadamas433 yeah, if I have an update for the situation I'll gladly do a follow up video. Thanks 👍
Would you make some tests with the SiS 620?, i have a morbid curiosity for that IGP 😅
Yeah, I can put that in my pipeline. What games do you suggest? I'm sure that considering the CPU DOS games will be no problem.
Nice build, just wondering, why did you decide to go with such a low end motherboard, over something like a 440bx one?
Hey, thanks! I thought it would be nice to use something different and I did have this creative Mobo that is kind of rare. Took the opportunity and even though I'm having a heck of a time trying to find out about the performance issues it was interesting to look at.
I had a pentium 3 800mhz! With a "gigantic" 30gb harddrive, haha.
Yeah man, Pentium III, what a fantastic time for computing and 3d gaming. Always nice going back there. Thanks for watching, I'm glad you enjoyed it.
Awesome video SUCRA, but don't think I'm letting you get away with that CD Drive color. (joke)
Thanks, Jam! I did my best haha.
Cool shit. Wonder if we can speed up 3DFX hardware using modern AA instead of using MSAA or FSAA which is way too expensive.
Drop back to 640x480 and use that instead. You could probably use 32 bit color as well.
Couldn't agree more, cool! V4 is not doing so great, unfortunately. I'll need to investigate.
@@SUCRA
Let me know if predication SMAA works in reshade with that GPU. If it does, even without the sharpener that is a big deal because its like getting 4x multisampling for almost nothing compared to what it costs to run old school inefficient MSAA. Let alone FSAA.
@@SUCRA
I think 16 bit color is a necessary evil because its literal memory bandwidth consumption concerns of being such low spec first to the party hardware. I dont think under 30 is however. If the hardware can run it, then it was meant to be, help it out using more modern mathematics from lower resolution to not look so edgy. Im confident you will be very impressed if it does work. You can also use the color only SMAA variety which will be faster but slightly more smudgy which is why I dont prefer it. But hey man 640x480 at silky smooth 30 solid minimums, and it doesnt look bad, thats an awesome deal in my book, but its going to be left to destiny when someone with that hardware finds out. I was hoping it would be you with the secret sauce voodoo 4 on hand. I personally dont want to go out and buy one to find out. Better just to propagandize the world into doing much needed science Gaben amen.
@@SUCRA
You should do a nitrogen cooled voodoo video in the future, with massive overclocking, and do something just fascinatingly awe inspiring.
Just ideas, very nice video. Very clean profesh delivery. I on the other hand like to push the boundaries to keep things interesting. The shakespeare component in regard to other youtube personalities is just a side effect of that. Forgivable on the merits of my work I think.
Somewhere out there Gabe Newell is Watching, waiting, planning, for the third coming of Half Life. We await that day, but until then the PC Master Race philosophy, is objectively superior enhancement on anything and everything or GTFO. By this we stand together as a force of perfectionism slowly eroding at the problems facing mankind in the future wanting to re'experience these classics, even on native hardware.
The upgrades in software should be seen as very late to the game updates to the hardwares capabilities for efficient rendering of superior graphics, amen.
OwO SiS 620 that must be power!!!!....
For MSdos games of course :v
haha oooh I bet
Interesting video but the fps and 3dmark scor you get are waaaaay to low for a Pentium 3 800 and V4 4500. Something isnt working properly.
Hey, thank you. You're absolutely right. I did some tests, had some bad configurations but the V4 didn't like going full blast. Having issues right now. I might do a follow up. Thanks again!
Something does not work right with your system. The performance of your system is 2x lower than it should be. You should get 88 fps in Quake 2 in 1024x768, 58-60 fps in Unreal in 1024x768 and around 40-45 fps in Deus Ex in 1024x768. And 6000 score in 3dmark 99, not 3000.
Deus Ex on V3 2000 and P3 900 mhz - m.czcams.com/video/c7mMleey4yA/video.html
probably the crappy SiS chipset + PCI interface + slow CPU are not helping
Hey, thanks, I'm aware now. Had issues with the bios and then the V4 didn't like running full blast. It's not doing so great right now, I'll probably do a follow up on that.
20fps playable?
Nasty lol.
OC the PCI port. Remember this will ramp clocks on the GPU too.
20fps is perfectly playable lol. I'll play some games at 15 if I need to
@@Jason-fp7vi
Yeah? Metal Gear Solid IV with interpolation maybe. My standard I think was the honest standard even then, its just people tolerated poor performance because they were itching to use pixel densities their hardware couldnt properly muster.
@@Jason-fp7vi
Its kind of like, how playable can we make it by lowering the input sensitivity on the mouse sort of solutions hardcoded into the game.
For one thing, G sync didnt exist. 20fps isnt even 20fps.
@@Jason-fp7vi
Forget his twitter account therefore name, but this guy had a linux page with raytracing for linux, which I of course dropped in and said hi.
He also had an article there how custom drivers were written in modern times for ATIs X800 series. Why not use the long lived fans code? Using old drivers in itself is leaving performance on the table, especially if we factor in new ways of smuggling lower resolutions.
Its like running higher octane gas in our 4 barreled growling muscle cars from before the dark times, when the choking out of emission standards showed up, before computerized timing ignition got gud.
@@remasteredretropcgames3312 I don't care about Ray tracing and stuff really. I'm fine with 20fps on high graphics or 30fps on low
Mmm!! Pentium 3 , never had! from Pentium 2 gone directly to Athlon! Its really sexy build indeed! i loved it! Frank was right🙂
Thank you, my friend. Pentium 3 was a great platform. I skipped the pentium II, went from a k5 to a pentium 3. A while after that I got an athlon XP 1200. Good times!