Why Make a New Game When a TV Show Will Sell Your Old Games? - Next-Gen Console Watch

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  • čas přidán 25. 04. 2024
  • Welcome back to Next-Gen Console Watch. This week Daemon is joined by Ryan McCaffrey of the Unlocked podcast, and Max Scoville from Beyond. The topic: are video game publishers better off making adaptations of their games, rather than making new games? Fallout and The Last of Us are two examples of a TV adaptation of a video game done right, and Sony is leaning hard into their IP for more TV series. Is it more financially viable for an IP holder to license their properties for a prestige TV show, over making a new entry in the video game franchise? And would fans prefer that, as long as the shows are good?
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Komentáře • 120

  • @Naaif076
    @Naaif076 Před 17 dny +164

    Halo deserves better

    • @stevenh.2459
      @stevenh.2459 Před 17 dny +14

      Yeah that has been true for well over a decade

    • @BloodlessJG
      @BloodlessJG Před 17 dny +1

      Let it go, move on. Sometimes a thing you love just dies. What will be, will be 😮‍💨

    • @astronotics531
      @astronotics531 Před 17 dny +1

      Dead IP

    • @joeysmith4066
      @joeysmith4066 Před 17 dny +3

      I've played the games since the first one came out, and you're right. It deserves better

    • @richardgray7159
      @richardgray7159 Před 17 dny +3

      Absolutely agree show is horrible

  • @andrebillups4079
    @andrebillups4079 Před 17 dny +92

    I’m glad games figured it out. Tv Series are WAYYYYY BETTER than movies for video games. Tv series allow it to be more detailed and tell more of the story the movies never did games true justice.

    • @xilepain4176
      @xilepain4176 Před 17 dny +2

      Name one ☝️.
      Oh wait you can’t. The walking dead was a show before it turned into a movie. The only game that really did this was King Kong. Game developers can’t keep up. Helldivers 2 is still up there 👀 been some months for what a 200 person company ?

    • @Mr.Coffee576
      @Mr.Coffee576 Před 17 dny +3

      Depends on the studio. Super Mario had a movie and Halo had a tv show and people like Super Mario more.

    • @ICon-sy7go
      @ICon-sy7go Před 17 dny

      Xbox one movies and video games boooooooo, 8 years later yayyyyyyyyy!

    • @oppa1319
      @oppa1319 Před 17 dny +5

      @@Mr.Coffee576not enough content in Mario for story telling purposes hence why the movie is an hour and a half.

    • @SuperMurray2009
      @SuperMurray2009 Před 17 dny

      ​@@xilepain4176Are you a baffoon or something?

  • @RDMVidya
    @RDMVidya Před 17 dny +47

    Much rather have the new video game, thanks.

  • @TornadoShaunUK
    @TornadoShaunUK Před 17 dny +27

    TV Show is an expensive gamble as well, main positive for the devs is that someone else takes up the bulk of the heavy lifting....

    • @user-ds8rj2vc4v
      @user-ds8rj2vc4v Před 15 dny +1

      It also relies on TV show creators to faithfully adapt - otherwise you end up with something like Halo.

  • @JaySweetZ
    @JaySweetZ Před 17 dny +44

    They saw what wonders it did for Cyberpunk & Witcher.

    • @joshuascott4957
      @joshuascott4957 Před 17 dny +5

      and the last of us

    • @Thebigbubba
      @Thebigbubba Před 17 dny +4

      Ehhh when they replaced the actor for Geralt it kinda got weaker.

    • @V3ntilator
      @V3ntilator Před 17 dny +2

      They didn't. Fallout TV series were planned before TLOU and Witcher series even existed, but it took years to find the right concept.

    • @JaySweetZ
      @JaySweetZ Před 17 dny +1

      @@V3ntilator you're proving my point.

    • @TheCursedOni
      @TheCursedOni Před 16 dny +1

      cyberpunk was a anime,and the witcher didnt even follow the story.Try again.

  • @ZackRToler
    @ZackRToler Před 17 dny +8

    Halo really shot itself in the foot with it being an AU story. Imagine if we got something about some insurgents on a planet in the outer colonies just at the start of the covenant war. Where at the start, they're fighting the UNSC for their independence. And here comes a covenant ship that starts glassing the place and it becomes a fight for survival to escape off world. Evading the Kig-Yar scouts, taking out some Ungoyy, an extremely close encounter with some Sangheili that leads to tragic deaths. Maybe even a run in with some UNSC marine or Spartan that has them on edge at first but work together to overcome the alien threat. A whole original story that could canonically take place within the universe of the games, books and comics.

  • @Corrupted16348
    @Corrupted16348 Před 17 dny +8

    Sorry Ryan, but the halo tv show is not fine.

  • @xRaymond9250
    @xRaymond9250 Před 16 dny +5

    Don’t forget that there was also the Twisted Metal show on Peacock

  • @Revolversplinter
    @Revolversplinter Před 17 dny +25

    Yeah, instead of making new and interesting games... Great times....

    • @leonthesleepy
      @leonthesleepy Před 15 dny

      We're still getting a new fallout game, but its many years away since their working on ES first.

  • @RH1812
    @RH1812 Před 17 dny +6

    Ahh yore, those were the days. It’s also probably frustrating for writers who have unique stories they’d love to get in front of people’s eyes when they’re up against shows based on game properties let alone recycled known IPs

  • @nicholase82
    @nicholase82 Před 17 dny +5

    The same holds true in Japan when they make anime about a manga, novel, or game.

  • @Yinzermakesvids
    @Yinzermakesvids Před 17 dny +9

    That's a silly title. Won't stop them from. Making a new fallout games

  • @oppa1319
    @oppa1319 Před 17 dny +4

    Because eventually there will be a limit of how many customers you can sell too until you are forced to make another product.

  • @bittyboogaming1653
    @bittyboogaming1653 Před 17 dny +4

    Yall forgot to mention "Fort Solis" there making a show out of that game as well!

  • @holenjd3
    @holenjd3 Před 16 dny +2

    The opening title card music is way louder than the rest of the video. Can someone at IGN fix that?

  • @cfu5305
    @cfu5305 Před 17 dny +4

    Very few games actually work as movies.
    Portal would work, but games like Skyrim wouldn't be done justice without several hours of screentime

  • @alkoholic3216
    @alkoholic3216 Před 17 dny +21

    Halo tv show was 🗑️. Halo deserves better and could be way better it has so much lore and so much potential in the cinematic universe

    • @qenreblayers5331
      @qenreblayers5331 Před 17 dny +2

      Yea, Master cheeks dog watering. Just ignore it …

    • @ViWizard
      @ViWizard Před 17 dny +1

      100%

    • @OR-xs7fy
      @OR-xs7fy Před 13 dny

      Season 2 was decent but season 1 was shyt

  • @SeekoGT
    @SeekoGT Před 17 dny +4

    These guys look like 3 versions of the same person

  • @joepaolinelli7696
    @joepaolinelli7696 Před 17 dny +4

    Fallout 4 new update was getting played with or without the show just sayin.

    • @TheCursedOni
      @TheCursedOni Před 16 dny +2

      show brought millions,the update alone wouldn't have did that.

  • @ErMarietto
    @ErMarietto Před 17 dny +2

    But they keep updating their 20 years old games with useless patches with the only purpose of breaking as much modlists as possible.
    I'm missing something in the equation.

  • @mahmoodrezamaboodi599
    @mahmoodrezamaboodi599 Před 17 dny +1

    What do you guys think about Zack Snyder's gears of war movie on Netflix?

  • @MysticVerlon
    @MysticVerlon Před 14 dny

    could time shows releases with game releases, or as a hold over to the next release of either

  • @graysenluckensmeyer3329

    You can make a show or a movie about a game series. Just don’t expect the long term fans of that game to enjoy whatever gets pushed out. Fallout is a diamond in the rough for recent adaptions.

  • @thevideogamecabinet3681

    So when the hell are we getting that Half Life Alyx port on the PSVR2?

  • @leezeebub
    @leezeebub Před 14 dny

    Take a shot every time Max says "You know". Hardcore mode for every time he says "Errr".

  • @samuelamaducci5087
    @samuelamaducci5087 Před 15 dny +1

    A canonical Gears of war TV series, maybe about a team of onix guards on azura or something like that, and done well as fallout

    • @majorlazor5058
      @majorlazor5058 Před 12 dny

      Gears of War is dumb. Please no.

    • @samuelamaducci5087
      @samuelamaducci5087 Před 12 dny

      @@majorlazor5058 What and why? It's the best Xbox game

    • @majorlazor5058
      @majorlazor5058 Před 12 dny

      @@samuelamaducci5087 maybe it’s your favorite game and it’s fun to play, but the story is absolutely awful.

  • @PhinneusPrune
    @PhinneusPrune Před 15 dny

    The TV show gets viewers curious about the game. The Game is the hook. New game would be the big money maker as most of the people who play the games recently either bought it at a huge discount or have owned it since 2015.
    So a new game would sell to the new and old fans together for a bigger first month profit.

  • @thalunizz21
    @thalunizz21 Před 17 dny +2

    Again, if both PlayStation and Microsoft dont show some actul bangers in the upcoming months, it's going to the worst for games.

  • @joshnizzle
    @joshnizzle Před 16 dny

    We def need more games this generation. My series x is a dust collector and I’ve played more bloodborne and dark souls replays on ps5 than much else. Not counting the few exclusives we have gotten. It’s got more use than my xbox for sure. Baldurs Gate 3 has been the only game that really had me putting loads of time into it.

  • @Thebigbubba
    @Thebigbubba Před 17 dny

    As a 21 year old it's strange thing to say but...i was raised on the OG trio, seeing a mix between new and old in the show was pretty good..i just hope season 2 shows the varying factions from NV like the boomers and khans.

  • @sanjeethattarki654
    @sanjeethattarki654 Před 15 dny +2

    IGN you are the ones promoting Fallout and releasing new videos for the old games … ur causing this “phenomenon” & likely profit from it as well - i’d rather have a new game than a tv show & ign videos

  • @jasonpowley4913
    @jasonpowley4913 Před 17 dny

    Streamers have had their traffic spike significantly, walk through channels and first playthroughs are popping up everywhere, even veteran fallout streamers are reinvigorating their tips and tricks videos, everyone seems to be benefiting. ❤

  • @hamoudamehdi619
    @hamoudamehdi619 Před 14 dny

    Hope that games will focus more on gameplay and avoid to be movies like, fallout is not cinematic and that helped the show a lot in bringing something that the game couldn't do, and that's fine because games are not supposed to do what movies do.

  • @arroyo5born749
    @arroyo5born749 Před 17 dny +2

    Hahahaha....the title alone
    Hey man if its going to be like that than let it be Fallout
    Fallout was ALL THEME ...very genius from the beginning with open world open choices and KARMA
    YES we need karma back
    Completely and totally adds to the feel of the reality of one's choices
    Big thumbs 👍 to Bethesda ..
    Keep getting better at what you do

  • @itsdeonlol
    @itsdeonlol Před 17 dny +2

    Just give us new games!

  • @stevekempsyninja3292
    @stevekempsyninja3292 Před 17 dny

    Because new games bring in new fan and revenue but also fixing glitches and making dlc's is also lucrative❤

  • @Penance2277
    @Penance2277 Před 17 dny +2

    The Halo show is so insulting.

  • @williehew
    @williehew Před 15 dny

    not looking forward to extra episodes as DLC

  • @Crossbar_Pain
    @Crossbar_Pain Před 17 dny +1

    As a huge Halo fan since CE, the Halo show is an embarrassment 😭 the 2nd season was slightly better but still not up to par

  • @midsega
    @midsega Před 12 dny

    thanks for the info IGN

  • @SpinFireOne
    @SpinFireOne Před 10 dny

    Joebert is someone’s name?!

  • @WillAyy_R
    @WillAyy_R Před 16 dny

    Yall keep forgetting the Witcher

  • @iansims2984
    @iansims2984 Před 17 dny

    You missed out the witcher !!

  • @liammahoneymahonry
    @liammahoneymahonry Před 15 dny

    3 similar guys

  • @GarthJrWilkinson
    @GarthJrWilkinson Před 12 dny

    IGN makes me understand what an "industry plant" is

  • @ETG715
    @ETG715 Před 17 dny

    Easy because a game can sell more and the TV series has a really big history no matter what it is it will do to fail but the Mario movie ended up providing that they have potential but after that they went back to sucking

  • @Astr0b0y8
    @Astr0b0y8 Před 14 dny

    As long as the show is done well 😋

  • @Pulpos999
    @Pulpos999 Před 16 dny

    And why improve a buggy and technically messy game when modders can fix it for free...

  • @erinnoyd1147
    @erinnoyd1147 Před 16 dny

    First make the T.V. show then make a new game that is connected to the T.V. show without spoiling the next season of said T.V. Show.

  • @stubbornathlete7016
    @stubbornathlete7016 Před 16 dny

    What Xbox and Bethesda are doing is on point. Sony should take notes 🗒️

  • @kungfuscubabape953
    @kungfuscubabape953 Před 17 dny

    The show is based off the game and popular cause of the game ign

  • @Mr.DalekLK
    @Mr.DalekLK Před 16 dny

    Todd in 2025 Fallout 4 SPECIAL Edition !

  • @jayallen9198
    @jayallen9198 Před 16 dny

    Because it barely ever works out.

  • @kirushanthkiri210
    @kirushanthkiri210 Před 16 dny

    If one they had cheif's helmet on....

  • @TonyArechiga
    @TonyArechiga Před 11 dny

    More money in games.

  • @chrisjulien7698
    @chrisjulien7698 Před 15 dny

    Christ bless you, poor halo

  • @brandonbyrd1307
    @brandonbyrd1307 Před 17 dny +3

    Bad take.

  • @Djamp_htx
    @Djamp_htx Před 17 dny

    Why do games professionals see legitimacy only through imitating Hollywood?

  • @r1pperuk
    @r1pperuk Před 17 dny

    The games are always disappointing so maybe just make the shows..its an interesting argument .

  • @simonluk5664
    @simonluk5664 Před 17 dny

    can Sony's TV shows saved their IPs now?

  • @nyxjackson229
    @nyxjackson229 Před 17 dny

    Everything went well, except for Halo😂💔

  • @yyyhhh8481
    @yyyhhh8481 Před 17 dny

    new halo game > halo tv show

  • @theclown888
    @theclown888 Před 16 dny +2

    NGCW was better when all guests were in person. Time to get out of the house, boys.

  • @Ken69690
    @Ken69690 Před 17 dny

    Yes for the first time

  • @worrior3008
    @worrior3008 Před 16 dny

    Dooooooooooom !!!
    But this time better

  • @ICon-sy7go
    @ICon-sy7go Před 17 dny

    So now they want games to coincide with tv and movies. Never happy humans

  • @joeg8391
    @joeg8391 Před 17 dny +1

    Who voted for the Steamdeck 2.0? Just buy the Steamdeck 1.0, 2.0 isn't coming anytime soon.

    • @ashokathegreat4534
      @ashokathegreat4534 Před 16 dny

      Steamdeck was already kind of outdated at release. Steamdeck 2 is what Im waiting for with OLED screen

    • @oubregang2x926
      @oubregang2x926 Před 15 dny

      @@ashokathegreat4534 keep waiting then I’ll let you know how my kids are doing by that time 😂

  • @ICon-sy7go
    @ICon-sy7go Před 17 dny

    I’m playing fallout 4 right now

  • @xxDestroyedxx1
    @xxDestroyedxx1 Před 17 dny +1

    Fallout actually stuck with the core principles of the game. While the producers of halo wanted to appeal to my grandfather and not the people who actually played halo

  • @spartan_a1176
    @spartan_a1176 Před 15 dny

    343 ruined the halo series and the TV show period

  • @coreyleader6206
    @coreyleader6206 Před 17 dny +1

    Are you seriously a games site?

  • @sub-jec-tiv
    @sub-jec-tiv Před 16 dny

    Why enjoy culture when you can complain about it instead?

  • @jasonpowley4913
    @jasonpowley4913 Před 17 dny

    Baiting.

  • @jinwu9423
    @jinwu9423 Před 16 dny +1

    Because 343i does a piss poor job at both