The History of Brawl Stars' Unsolvable Problem
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- čas přidán 19. 05. 2024
- Brawl Stars has an almost unsolvable problem when it comes to showdown...
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(0:00) Intro
(0:46) 2017
(2:01) 2018
(3:54) 2019
(5:48) 2020
(6:16) 2021
(8:31) 2022
(9:16) 2023
(12:11) Outro - Hry
Non-teamers trying to get a brawler mastery
Alr did that
That was pain on Spike...
So I get to kill 9 throwers
'-'
Mission: Impossible
3:46 the perfect pam dodge
Yep! Its all over the screen! Daytabayo
NAH I WAS JUST GOING TO SAY THAT
@@Goofy_Ahh_Spiderman only 10 months late
@@Goofy_Ahh_Spidermanah yes 10 months later
@@Goofy_Ahh_Spiderman, it took you 10 months to say that
Teaming tutorial:🌪🌪🌪
Bro didn’t mention showdown plus 💀
To those that don’t know what showdown plus is:
It was an attempt at ending teaming by supercell where the more enemy you killed, the more trophies you gained, this didn’t stop teaming but I think carnage should mention it since this shows that supercell tried to stop teaming.
I was thinking that too...
Yeah he should've. The funny part is that showdown+ was used by pros for pushing 😅
Ya I pushed my 4 brawler to rank 30 in that time mostly they are tank 😂
Each time you killed someone you would get a trophy (or two trophies later on) but for dying you lost two more trophies so you had to get at least one kill to not tilt. Getting 10th place really sucked.
OH GOD I WANT SHOWDOWN + BACK I LOVED THAT MODE
I think the reason Supercell no longer nerfs brawlers that are efficient teamers is because showdown is no longer considered a competitive gamemode
It never was
@@Ivoireeeit was at the beginning
"Skill" based match making aint even a thing anymore really
@@quickerster nah there are some maps where there are little to no teamers like cavern churn, but still there are some
Yes Dey did, now they just Nefertiti Larry Larry and piper
I have an idea to prevent teaming: When ever they spin their brawler they get a dizziness effect on their screen
Then everyone would just spam sprays
I was thinking if you stand near a brawler and don't attack them for 5 seconds, you will die instantly. It might not work though
@@zachDattacka tbh nothing can stop teaming
@@zachDattacka what if two people recognize each other from when they started to team, ad play like a duo in different places of the map
@@marcovaleriofranco9310 yeah then I guess nothing can stop teaming 💀
3:46 THAT PAM SHOT DODGE IS WILD
This is really painful for a non-teamer to play solo showdown, when you don't team there is always like a whole crowd chasing at you 😭
i swear its impossible to raise trophies in showdown without teamming
I'm the teamer killer I can kill a crowd with Brock he just need to charge his super then teamers dead
Ahh primo teaming was so fun 😂
@@Angel__1700Its not impossible but its freaking hard
@@Angel__1700I'm able. I got a streak of 25. No cheating. All Solo Showdown.
Graveyard shift or "life leech" as u call it, does not stop teaming. It just reversed it back to throwers. Also u forgot the bea meta which was basically the same as 8bit
Yeah this "documentary" isnt really accurate, the reality has been too much simplified. Should have talk more about every meta
@@paulj_right im playing showdown since 2019 mainly and he missed so much things and buzz meta started likr in early 2021 not in 2023
4:32 The editing. The delivery. The comedy. This video has it all. I can’t believe you make your videos on tablet/phone 🔥😂
its actualyl fucking hilarious lmao
I see no comedy
Showdown is just spain without the S or A lol
Lol nice joke
Pin?
Pin
He said s OR a, so it’s pain or spin
Under rated
Could we see more of these history vids? They’re really interesting and I would really like to see history of bounty or brawlers like brock
I myself play regulary in 500 throphies in showdown and I dont see much teaming at all, when around every 10th game I see teaming happening. I used to see teaming a lot more two years ago. I agree with Supercell that teamers should not be banneed, when you can team yourself in showdown and then crush other teams with your teams. In the highest showdown throphies all of the players seem to team, unitil somebody betrays and the whole lobby teaming ends in there.
@@jout738 maybe they make mode solo(no teaming you can get banned) team(you can team no ban) so in solo if someone teams you report them and send times where they team and maybe you click on evidence that they are teaming so ai can ban them
@@quandaledingle2107
I dont think teamers should be banned, when then players would start to accuse eachother for all kind of things. Just be careful to not end up in situation where you can get killed easily for teaming and you can yourself use teaming as advantage then.
@@jout738 killing your teammate is always fun
@@quandaledingle2107
Yes I have sometimes got also betrayed by teamate, so thoese are the cons of teaming, because you get betrayed and they kill you off, if you did trust them too fast.
I think you forgot to mention that there are a lot of trust issues with teaming, for example they’ll make you think there teaming with you then kill you instantly. Especially true for close quarters brawlers. I have experienced this several times and it’s terrifying haha.
Thats always what I do.
Actual teaming are for noobs that cabt even get a kill alone
@@kaey6105 Bro talks abt noob that cant get a kill alone, but needs to trick people into trusting him and coming close in order to get kills lmao
Well, you are the noob if you fall for a teaming trap, or if you team too lol@@n4kroth
@@n4krothIts your fault of you get tricked like that...
@n4kroth25 what solution is there? If you dont backstab them they're just gonna team up with someone else and you're dome for. Might as well get rid of the teamer while you still can so the whole lobby benefits from it.
You forgor the honeycoat-arc💀
Also the Band Aid-arc
wasnt a teaming strat it was against teaming
I mean u had to use shelly or u were eradicated
Oh hell naw i remember using surge against bee it was so frustrating
Honey "coat" the star difference is immense wrt to the name change 😂
The editing is fire btw. Great effort!
I feel like the peek of teaming, when it was basically just a meme about showdown was in 2021. An average sd lobby would contain 6+ primos and yeah. It was kinda hilarious. Even after the primo nerfs, teaming was still hugee, and every lobby would just hang out till the storm arived
to this day you can easily find games in high ladder in showdown that only have one to three anti-teamers
@@gammaf1365 Yeah. Whenever I'm watching some brawl TV showdown, there's literally just one Shelly that is bush camping and refuses to team cause they have at least some self respect
Never thought Carnage would do a video essay/documentary. I’m all for it though! Can we expect more in the future? I love these kind of videos, it’s what hooked me on Gratz’s Clash Royale history videos
The meg nerf helped more then people realize. She easier to take down now out of mech. 30 sec shield was way too much with her current state
Oh boy, the 8-bit apocalypse was... Interesting. The story of 8-bit is a long one. He started really strong so the very slow movement speed made a lot of sense. I remember he got a dmg nerf as a first nerf. He was good but counterable. Then his second Star Power released and changed Showdown completly.
I upgraded him to power 9 somewhere prior to summer 2020 and pushing him to rank 25 was my goal. It was a blast.
Pam was a very popular pick in there and you'd often see 5v5 Pams and 8-bits all while the meteors rained like crazy.
A lot of the times Pam teams were winning due to the meteors putting 8-bit in a huge disadvantage.
He was kinda like Edgar or Shelly. Completly trash or at least underwhelming everywhere except for Showdown due to extra life.
I miss modifiers in Showdown.
He was crashing the game randomly in battle or when opening boxes
What a well-thought out video! Would like to see more of these type of documentary videos ❤️
3:45 Bruh no ones gonna talk about that insane ultra instinct observation haki dodge.
Oh that's just Pam being Pam.
Bro is in blox fruit
If Josh was my history teacher, I would get full grades in every subject
Btw, what about Showdown + ?
Lapsa made a video about it, it will probably never come back because of trophies records getting huge (2k or 3k on one brawler)
@@dark_fox1517Lapsa is noob and you cant
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Change my Mind
@@CayLavYu ok.
it didnt work. *T H A T S A L L*
@@CayLavYu bro that's kinda ballsy 💀 you are speaking truth really hard 💀
Teaming lore be like:
2017: _spins_
2018: _more spins_
2019: _Rosa spinning_
2020: _tanks spinning and ganging up on you._
2021: _primo spinning_
2022: _buzz spinning_
2023: _meg spinnin-_ oh wait they're gone.
True so true
Where's 8-bit/bea spin?
@@Pan_Susel also in 2020.
bro eve in acid lakes was embarassing
I'm a teamer and there is more to teaming than spinning
I can tell about huge Russian Frank meta in 2019. In late 2018, 15 y. o. youtuber from Russia decided to make non-ingame clan, which name i can't tell due it's banned by Supercell. You could find it's members by tag in [square brackets] in the nickname. It's rules were: team with other clan members, do not swear, do not backstab in any situation, and when team was only standing in showdown, they needed to lose their super into the gas and go into it. It's main brawler were Frank, so it's second name was "Frank Brotherhood". Of course they were regularly broken, and clan's leader, youtuber meant upper didn't do anything useful. At July 2019 every TENTH player were in this clan, so all Rusiian youtubers, foreign players and even Supercell known about it. Because it's name were close to popular swear word, in July 2019 it was banned. Clan's leader made other name for it, and one more time half year later when his name waas changed into "Darryl", but both weren't succsess. In early 2020 clan was almost fully destroyed.
Thanks for reading!
How they can in the same match for teaming?
This CZcamsr is first who brings teaming, so if you ask who dares to ruin normal life of non-teamers, just know - it was been him
@@megaloneofit5999 He didn't made teaming from zero - in video said that teaming already were in 2017, meanwhile clan was made only in 2018. He just made teaming much more popular
@@alvucatdo didn't understand question
This is IceArrow and the tag is [БЛЭТ] btw, surprisingly there are still some people with that tag
3:47 , perfectly dodged pam shot. Well played Carnage!
Dang it I can comment that now 💀
I'm still wondering who are the first 2 mfs that started this
They should make two version of showdown, one where you can report teamers, and the other where you can team.
This is actually a great idea!
Teamers can abuse the report button
@@Old_Duo it would not be that much of a problem
Sadly there are a lot more teamers then non teamers so they could ban players easely@@synphoniggle
@user-lt7lv9hn1e they could put some kind of verification. You may need to send a screenshot or a replay to report someone
Editing is on point, timing is on point. Everything is on point, keep up with the amazing work! (I mean it fr)
*“Be the last person standing among ten other people.”*
You might wanna review that sentence again carnage.
I fight the demons in my head too
the voices...
3:46 Bro can doge pams shots
life leach🥴
graveyard shift:💀
This is a REALLY good video, lots of effort was clearly put in it. Good stuff
Cool video bro, it's so nostalgic 😢 I miss old brawl stars. I've been playing it since 2017
I've always never understood why supercell doesnt implement the easiest way to stop teaming. If 2 brawlers are within a certain radius with no wall between them and neither is attacking for a certain period of time, they both start to lose health. Sure it wouldn't stop long range teaming, but it would be a massive step.
Edit: I know this wont solve everything, but the amount of teaming it would stop would be massive
But then close ranged brawlers gonna suffer
@@Canary_10 Not if they attack. Read the whole comment. The range can be like a 3x3 radius. People will keep attacking if they aren't teaming.
Then what about long range brawlers teaming
@@username7660 Like I said it wont solve anything, but long range brawlers have been much less of a problem teaming then short-range, so it would deal with massive teaming
I mean you charge your super when teaming
Supercell should understand by now that the only way to stop teaming is by adding a report button, and adding a ban.
Like, I understand their point, but if they have to sacrifice an entire gamemode like this for so long...
The thumbnail looks professional. Love it. Video also sounds promising.
Epic video 😎
Carnage always thinks outside the box good job dude keep up the great work 👍👍
Where is Bea’s 1hp star power?
I want you to imagine a janet using her gadgets and super trying to escape 5 buzzes at once and then you'll realize why i lost about 240 trophies.
Fuck buzz.
Fuck teaming.
Some of the supers come in arcs as well… like summoning Bruce or chucking el primo for a slam attack
I think this video was made a little too earlier or else we will see the ultimate teaming strategy rightnow, Cordelius.
I'm a showdown-only player
I never teamed
Like everyone, I think, I tried it when i played dynamike in the early days of the game. I was betrayed too many times, didnt like it, and happily for me, stopped really fast.
Since then I've been playing a lot of games against 9 teamers all together, winning sometimes, generally losing. But I didnt really care, I just did my best to play and destroy as many teamers as possible to disgust them from teaming.
But in the end, I stopped having fun. I stopped the game about two years ago because it was umplayable and I didnt like playing wit other people so other gamemodes weren't really an option for me.
I guess I'll return whenever supercell does something about it, like showdown+ or another leech life only mode like there used to be in halloween...
teaming before brawl pass came out was kind of cool back then
Love the editing style Carnage
Carnage you are not changed you still have the same outro. I kinda came back to Brawlstars after some months but damn nothing changed but just the robot voice.
Turn 361 degrees = death
Its superly simple: a new gamemode: With every kill you get, the more total HP you get (4200 --- 5000 with 2 kills), they can also put a 5-10% dmg buff to every brawler on the gamemode.
It wouldn't stop teaming, because teamers would share kills and become even stronger.
I didn't think it that way, you got a point.
The next thing I *can* atleast think of is if Brawl Stars put up a kind of "anticheat" or a "detector"...
Its thing would be to detect if someone is teaming, as a result it would make him (and his other teamer friend) lose up to 10% dmg and 12-14% hp.
@@miltrplays634 In my opinion the only solution is to ban teamers, but Supercell refuses to do that.
Its not the only one, but it is the most right one.
@@fm_0523 banning teamers would only decrease player base, showdown is by far brawl stars most popular game mode meaning that a lot of player play that mode. We need to remember that Supercell is a company, their top priority is making money, and less player would do the complete opposite.
I remembered when playing bs in the early days there will always be that on emeteor that chases me around 😭
i sparked up and stumbled upon this brawlstars video mannn ur hilarious keep up the work😂😂😂
The best way for everyone to prevent teaming up with others in a solo showdown is to increase the number of trophies earned for lower ranks in rounds. the point is, for example, that if someone ranks 10-6, he loses trophies. If these trophy losses were limited to 10-8 rank, even on higher trophies in brawler, teaming would definitely decrease. the truth is that everyone needs trophies, and at higher ranks it is almost impossible to win without teaming and still get some trophies.
Worst idea ever it would make getting trophies trivial and it doesnt even stop teaming
@@user-xe9rq9dl6j But everyone need trophies. Without teaming getting trophies on higher ranks i very hard.
Maybe a good way to stop teaming is to disconetc them(just like it happens when you do not move in 3v3) when they where too close and not attacking.Snipers could be a problem,but tanks are a bigger issue.
I always thought of a simple way to stop teaming but supercell wont ever add it, its just making brawlers taking damage each seconds (like burning brawlball) if they are closed to each other without attacking themselves
@@dark_fox1517charging super?
@@dark_fox1517 but the teamers can just attack once it started
@@dark_fox1517 what if you are behind a wall reloading ammo and an enemy is on the other side of the wall? You get burned to death!
yeah i know my idea is radical and not clear but other hand i love to get replies so i can rethink my idea, thanks
I played a lot of solo sd in 2021 and I remember entire lobbys of gene, crow, primo, buzz, stu, bea and surge. And all of them relied on teaming and backstabbing everyone at the end which was so stupid.
Bro showdown + was totally insane ! and you forgot in 2022 that supercell bring back showdown with modifiers like ghost mode, where everyone was using tick cause of no damage with shield, btw, excellent video !!!
Bro I started hating buzz so much this year they're in every game 😢
If they were nicer with trophies, less teaming would occur
While it is true that graveyard shift mostly got rid of teaming, I remember a period where Sprout teaming was very popular there, since he could heal himself fully with his gadget and had a shield that reduces health decay
That star power was why meg was so strong, because like you said about extra life but the shield gave her time to get super
I can't believe that Carnage and y'all forgot about bea's 2nd sp in which she would live with 1 health left
Can't wait to see
Same
@@selenaang ty and because teaming ruin fun that's why I quit showdown I want to see who started teaming
10:25 Oh Eve Asylum theme from LBP2 ? Yeah someone still remember this game .
8-Bit: had a star power for respawning
Supercell: NOOO!!!
Doug: has a SUPER for respawning
Supercell: YES!
im according that meg is broken but edgar can counter her bcz she has not enough dps for him and at the majority of the time he is better than her
it's right i think but wht not primo
@@maximepeifferlover primo can't charge his super of bein passiv but edgar can
@@maximepeifferlover Edgar can also heal himself by attacking and he attacks faster than El primo
@@maximepeifferlover Edgar is a way better counter to Meg. THE BEST counter really (but only in a 1v1 scenarios, he's too unreliable in 3v3 to be a worthy pick against her usually)
Edgar passively charges his super. With Let's Fly he gets one at the start of a match before Meg charges her super so gets an easy kill. On the other hand, Hardcore allows him to tank her super but Let's Fly is better overall for dealing with teamer Megs.
He has an insane DPS while Meg's is kinda underwhelming and dodgable for Edgar since he can run in circles around her and effectively dodge most of her shots.
His life steal let's him outheal all the dmg she dealt.
Even the knockback star power that Meg has doesn't save her. Edgar might catch up to her anyway but if he doesn't he can just go away and recharge his super while Meg will stay vulnerable in her weak form.
@@Kyumifun hes but let's fly is better when you have 1/2/3 meg but when it was a meg fest it better to have more health
Easy way to stop teaming: a new variant of Showdown called Showdown Blitz (alongside Solo and Duo).
Literally Solo Showdown with the same map, however, it is for players who do not want to team.
If you're a Showdown player and your strategy is to team, then you play Solo. The rest of us play Blitz. And they'll be the same map anyway so there is no reason for teamers to choose to play Blitz.
This is a great idea.
Teamers would still play Showdown blitz. There is nothing stopping them.
@@Old_Duo In Blitz, you could report players for teaming. And those players will be banned for ~6 months on Blitz gamemode if they get a lot of reports.
@@nialldean9791 Teamers can abuse this button. There are showdown clubs that team. They are more in numbers than nonteamer. So they can ban you from solo blitz and force you to normar solo showdown where normal Teamers (buzz, el primo etc.) can play without getting banned. You know that, right?
And If teamers play blitz, they get banned 👍
Teaming is and was always cool, especially going against stacked op brawlers/other teams. But now it completely bs the whole lobby teams and kills you if you don’t join that’s completely full of bs
Brooooo I remember in Cavern Churn in 2018 when I started playing I played dynamike or barley and just teamed
They can't ban players for teaming, because if they do, many players will quit the game. I think Supercell should make graveyard shift showdown always active and remove hot dog. Hot dog didn't do anything. It might've even made teaming more popular because you can backstab team, pick up the hot dog and heal.
But In most situational, I don't like pro playe s whom usually click gadget or super guickly
3:27 that's why no permanent life leach
@@splatoon280 I mean, they could add it as a seperate gamemode
So what if many players quit the game???? Who cares! It's called SOLO showdown for a reason, isn't it????!?!?!
Solo Showdown is by far the most popular game mode so they can’t risk to alter it in any way. If they start banning people for teaming then they will even up banning half the community and lose a lot of money.
Sounds like a good thing.
Life leech was my favourite modifier and they removed it. It is when I managed to truly push in showdown
One of your best videos tbh
You should cancel your membership and stop being his member, because you’re supporting him and being nice, and he just ignores you, like you’re not even there. Why even pay to become his member if this is just how he treats his members who are literally paying him 🤦♀️
@@fatmarcus124bro you sound slow, that was their choice to become a member not the creators choice just because they are a member doesn't mean he has to show all his attention to them. Also how the hell would he show attention to them? He has more than just 10 members y'know he can't respond to all of them
I once teamed in a fall guys round of eliminating others by spinning like it was Brawl Stars. It felt good and I passed to the next round.
Friendship and teamwork. Thats what teaming is truly about. Its the best thing brawl stars has. And i love it.
Well, friendship and teamwork unless u team up with a bull, edgar or supered shelly😅xd
Supercell: removes extra life cause its op.
Also Supercell: adds brawler whos super is an extra life
As an player of 2019 i can confirm teaming has always been a part of showdown but the main problem for me is that i am an anti teamer idk but in my opinion teaming make the game less enjoyable not only this sometimes i feel like i have to quit this game, the main reason is that in showdown i have to face many elprimos and buzz and in 3v3 i always get bad randoms. (Go watch cryingman then you will never do teaming again)
I feel like the new high trophy teaming could be adressed as 'simping'. People only team with Max, Colt, Janet, Piper and sometimes Squeak or golden/expensive skins but never team with annyoing and dangerous brawlers like Primo, Edgar, RT, etc. Certain "cute" brawlers like Spike, Colette or Tick are sometimes accepted into the club. I think this is a really really bad era of teaming
janet simps became showdown mains
3:46 look he dodged all of pam’s attacks
someone trying to backstab meg*
Meg* let me just show you my 1000 bullets of death 😂
Who is an OG from 2017 of teaming
i just wanna know
I started bs in season 14
I started season 6
@@zachDattacka cool!
Hello my clone 🙈
@@GusBrawler Hello my clone 🙈
They could make it so that spinning rapidly in place or staying too close to other people for an extended period of time (Solo Showdown only) automatically hurts you for about 10-20% of your health. It'd also remove toxicity from Solo Showdown! ^^
I will once more argue that as a tick player I do spin to attack all the world
you just kinda forgot to mention how like, it started, with the post of your worst nightmare in a bush and all the win traders
It is so annoying when you think someone is willing to team (I am looking at you Shelly players) but out of nowhere kill you 😅😢
I've got 2 gold three masteries, and I can tell you bois, it is IMPOSSIBLE without teaming.
U missed Bea's 1HP star power 💀
I had just realised something, that when grom was added to the game some people in solo showdown were dying for no reason, most of them was teamers, but that thing just got deleted from brawl stars when the next season came
My ideas to ban teaming are:
If you rotate on yourself for more than 2.5 times with a player in your feild of view you get some sort of punishing effect, whether it being stunning or permanently reduced stars for the rest of the game. If you spin as described but there is a player in the bushes you won't get the punishing effect.
Now if you spin like said but you were fighting than you will be alright.
The punishing effect will apply at both of the teamers and at the end of the game you will get a warning.
With a couple of warnings you are out.
Fake teamers will receive the punishing effect but if they attack the other teamer, trying to kill him, any stats change will be reverted and they won't receive any warning.
Also, if you spray or emote near a visible player and then run towards him without attacking, you will get the punishing effect and warning.
This obviously applies if you had the chance to engage, so if there is a wall blocking you, you won't get any punishment.
Obviously all of this won't completely cancel teaming but it will reduce it drastically, because it prevents most ways of teaming.
there are actually players that are in clubs and discords servers taht are focuses on helping themself pushing high trophies in showdown and helping in 3v3 by trowing the game
I swear today in more than 5 matches people's teamed up against me 💀
This is like a movie 😊 I love the video
This teaming problem is worst when your trophy in about 750 or above, I've been in the situation when smoke already close to the middle of the map and because I'm not teaming I lost on rank 7-10.... I hate it...
Seeing the three primos jump 8-bit killed me😂😂😂
Great video! also you commented on my post in reddit. ( all tho im banned now but! you made my day!!! ( or maybe my whole life ))
The whole teaming situation is basically like usa vs north korea
Usa cannot use nuke on north korea because they will use their as well
And in brawl stars logic
Supercell cannot ban teamers because the community would be mad and brawl stars could fall off
Wasn't there a wave of carl teamers? I swear there was
ok, i ll say the reality.. i staarted teaming at the start of the game, no one was understanding me... but one day, an other guy started to turn like me, this is where teaming started...
Also a attempt supercell did to stop teaming was by realising showdown+
What i think they should do to stop teaming is make a system where if u dont attack a player within ur range for more than 4 seconds then u get kicked from the match
There are some problems from this idea
If attacking includes missed attacks, then teamers would 'intentionally miss' their attacks to their team.
If attacking doesn't include missed attacks, then bad aimers would be innocently kicked from SD
Also, otis's super and belle's super will be deadly since you can't attack for 4 seconds or more
How about the Bea era? Back in the day when her star power saved her from dying. Literally every open sd map was full of Beas
I like the idea that u can do whatever u want but I don’t like playing against it
I miss teaming in solo showdown in january 2019 everyone’s so toxic now
Very well done I’m impressed!
Bro is really the best history teacher, this is much better than history lessons i had in sch
actually you were wrong at one part . the elprimo meta started right back even before the new super charge trait was introduced . it was at that time i pushed my elprimo and bull to rank 30.