SERIES What is Talmud? Lecture 2, Prof. Christine Hayes
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- SERIES What is Talmud? Lecture 2: When the Divine is in the Details: The Talmud's view of Divine Law. Prof. Christine Hayes, Sterling Professor of Religious Studies in Classical Judaica, Yale University
Prof Hayes is such an engaging and thorough lecturer. Thank you for posting all this high quality scholarly content for free!
"A moral point of view too often serves as a substitute for understanding in technological matters."
[Understanding Media: The Extensions of Man, Marshall McLuhan,1964, Ch. 24: Games, p. 216 vac]
@59:12 Hayes speaks like the Sermon of Saint Anthony to the Fish. Blindness, like Saramago would say. In all seriousness though, I don't know how she can avoid bursting into laughter
"The dreamlike spell of this contemplative, metaphysically orientated tradition, where light and darkness dance together in a world - creating cosmic shadow play, carries into modern times and image that is of incalculable age. In its primitive form it is widely known among the jungle villages of the broad equatorial zone that extends from Africa eastward, through India, southeast Asia, and Oceania, to Brazil, where the basic myth is of a dreamlike age of the beginning, where there was neither death nor birth, which, however, terminated when a murder was committed. The body of the victim was cut up and buried. And not only did the food plants on which the community lives arise from those buried parts, but on all who ate of their fruit the organs of reproduction appeared; so that death, which had come into the world through a killing, was countered by its opposite, generation, and the self-consuming thing that is life, which lives on life, began its interminable course....
For the West, however, the possibility of such an egoless return to a state of soul antecedent to the birth of individuality has long since passed away; and the first important stage in the branching off can be seen to have occurred in that very part of the nuclear Near East where the earliest god - kings and their courts had been for centuries ritually entombed: namely Sumer, where a new sense of the separation of the spheres of god and man began to be represented in myth and ritual about 2350 BC. The king, then, was no longer a god, but a servant of the god, his Tenant Farmer, supervisor of the race of human slaves created to serve the gods was unremitting toil. And no longer identity, but relationship, was the paramount concern. Man had been made not to be God but to know, honor, and serve him; so that even the king, who, according to the earlier mythological view, had been the chief embodiment of divinity on Earth, was now but a priest offering sacrifice in tendance to One above - not a god returning to himself in sacrifice to Himself.
The earliest prophet of this mythology of cosmic restoration was, apparently, the Persian Zoroaster, whose dates, however, have not been securely established. They have been variously placed between c. 1200 and c. 550 BC, so that, like Homer(of about the same span of years), he should perhaps be regarded rather as symbolic of a tradition than a specifically, or solely, one man. The system associated with his name is based on the idea of a conflict between the wise lord, Ahura-Mazda," first father of the Righteous Order, who gave to the sun and stars their path," and an independent evil principal, Angra Mainyu, the Deceiver, principle of the lie, who, when all had been excellently made, entered into it in every particle."
[The Masks of God: Oriental Mythology, Joseph Campbell, Ch. 1: Signatures of The Four Great Domains, pg. 4,6-7]
(((Angra Mainyu, the origin of Satan, can be translated into English as "Angry Mind", by the way...note added by, Timothy Caffery)))
"Caius Plinius the 2nd, tells us, in the Thirtieth Book of his Natural History, that Eudoxus said that Zarathustra lived 6,000 years before Plato (who was born 429 b.c.); & that so it is asserted by Aristoleles. Hermippus, Pliny inform us, who made a diligent study of the works of Zarathustra [aka Zoroaster], explaining an immense number of his verses, stated that he lived 5,000 yrs before the Trojan War (which is supposed to have taken place about 1,190 yrs b.c.).
[Lectures of the Arya, Albert Pike, 1930, Lecture One: The Aryan Race, p 8-9]
"The teraphim were idols, and they were made in the following way. The head of a man, who had to be a first born, was cut off and the hair plucked out. The head was then sprinkled with salt and anointed with oil. Afterwards a little plaque, of copper or gold, was inscribed with the name of an idol and placed under the tongue of the decapitated head. The head was set in a room, candles were lit before it, and people made obeisance. And if any man fell down before it, the head began to speak, and answered all questions that were addressed to it."
[Jewish Encyclopedia, New York, 1901-06, Vol. XII, S.V. "Teraphim"]
"We must remember that the rationalistic attitude of the West is not the only possible one and is not all- embracing, but is in many ways a prejudice and a bias that ought perhaps to be corrected."
[Psyche and Symbol, Carl Jung, 1958, Part 2, Ch. 6-Two Chapters from: The Interpretation of Nature and the Psyche; Sec. III. Forerunners of the Idea of Synchronicity, p. 245-46]
"His goal was to explain the origin of monotheism, the character of the Jewish people, & their relation to the Christian world which persecuted them so persistently... There is truth in religion, he concluded, not material truth but a historical truth- a historical truth whose reverberations from the forgotten past are felt until the present day."
[Legacy of Freud, Jacob Arlow, 1956, Ch. 9: The Study of Religion]
"Psychological truths are not metaphysical insights; they are habitual modes of thinking, feeling and behaving which experience has proved appropriate and useful."
[Psyche & Symbol, Carl Jung, edited by Violet de Laszlo, 1958, Ch.1: Aion, Sec.V- Christ, a Symbol of the Self]
You don’t use a live animal as a wall because it is morally cruel to the animal.
That is my argument:)
Say that to the live animal pouncing on other live animals like they are walls.
"The teraphim were idols, and they were made in the following way. The head of a man, who had to be a first born, was cut off and the hair plucked out. The head was then sprinkled with salt and anointed with oil. Afterwards a little plaque, of copper or gold, was inscribed with the name of an idol and placed under the tongue of the decapitated head. The head was set in a room, candles were lit before it, and people made obeisance. And if any man fell down before it, the head began to speak, and answered all questions that were addressed to it."
Jewish Encyclopedia, New York, 1901-06, Vol. XII, S.V. "Teraphim"
Wow interesting and cruel. How can people be so desperate?
You seem extremely strange and a bit arrogant, I advise keeping an open mind and dropping the anti semitism, Hayes has an amazing series with yale that I recommend checking out
Even in the popular Rick & Morty cartoon (season 5), the writers clearly state, unlike these PROFESSORS, that Judaism is an amalgamation of the Sumerian god Yah & the Mesopotamian god Wei/Way.
"The dreamlike spell of this contemplative, metaphysically orientated tradition, where light and darkness dance together in a world - creating cosmic shadow play, carries into modern times and image that is of incalculable age. In its primitive form it is widely known among the jungle villages of the broad equatorial zone that extends from Africa eastward, through India, southeast Asia, and Oceania, to Brazil, where the basic myth is of a dreamlike age of the beginning, where there was neither death nor birth, which, however, terminated when a murder was committed. The body of the victim was cut up and buried. And not only did the food plants on which the community lives arise from those buried parts, but on all who ate of their fruit the organs of reproduction appeared; so that death, which had come into the world through a killing, was countered by its opposite, generation, and the self-consuming thing that is life, which lives on life, began its interminable course....
For the West, however, the possibility of such an egoless return to a state of soul antecedent to the birth of individuality has long since passed away; and the first important stage in the branching off can be seen to have occurred in that very part of the nuclear Near East where the earliest god - kings and their courts had been for centuries ritually entombed: namely Sumer, where a new sense of the separation of the spheres of god and man began to be represented in myth and ritual about 2350 BC. The king, then, was no longer a god, but a servant of the god, his Tenant Farmer, supervisor of the race of human slaves created to serve the gods was unremitting toil. And no longer identity, but relationship, was the paramount concern. Man had been made not to be God but to know, honor, and serve him; so that even the king, who, according to the earlier mythological view, had been the chief embodiment of divinity on Earth, was now but a priest offering sacrifice in tendance to One above - not a god returning to himself in sacrifice to Himself.
The earliest prophet of this mythology of cosmic restoration was, apparently, the Persian Zoroaster, whose dates, however, have not been securely established. They have been variously placed between c. 1200 and c. 550 BC, so that, like Homer(of about the same span of years), he should perhaps be regarded rather as symbolic of a tradition than a specifically, or solely, one man. The system associated with his name is based on the idea of a conflict between the wise lord, Ahura-Mazda," first father of the Righteous Order, who gave to the sun and stars their path," and an independent evil principal, Angra Mainyu, the Deceiver, principle of the lie, who, when all had been excellently made, entered into it in every particle."
[The Masks of God: Oriental Mythology, Joseph Campbell, Ch. 1: Signatures of The Four Great Domains, pg. 4,6-7]
"QUAM MALIGNA SACERDOTALI IGNORANTIA NOSTER SIMULAT SE IGNORARE, PER PECCATUM PRIMORUM PARENTUM NIHIL ALUID INTELLEGI, QUAM IPSUM COITUM; QUOD CUIQUE MANIFESTUM EST. SED VEREBATUR ALLEGORIAE JANUAM ASPERIRE, NE POSTEA OMNIA INVADERET."
[Coranto: Journal of the Friends of the Libraries, Fall of 1966, Vol IV, No. I, The Folio Augustini of Schopenhauer, Martin Woods]
Compare the sophisticated & ethically advanced laws of the Hittites vs the pagan & primitive laws of the Hebrews. The Hittites, being the people who the Hebrews never coexisted alongside, never saw or did business with, & only heard inaccurate rumors about them. This "divine" narrative in the Torah, stood uncontested until Hittite archives were discovered in the 1950s, proving the Torah IS as accurate as a a 3 year old's description of how babies are born. And these people have "degrees" for this malicious racially biased, sadistically chauvinistic, & pro-child abuse propaganda. And me, I am just a janitor.
"The state is concerned primarily with the preservation of law and order, and must therefore at the outset endeavor to set a limit to private vengeance and eventually to eliminate it altogether."
[The Hittites, O.R. Gurney, 1966]
"In this respect Hittite law is comparatively advanced. retribution plays an inconspicuous part in comparison with the principle of restitution. The only capital offenses are rape, sexual intercourse with animals, and defiance of the authority of the state; also, if the offender is a slave, disobedience to his master and sorcery."
[The Hittites, O.R. Gurney, 1966]
"Both version make a careful distinction between killing in anger and killing accidentally; but it is curious that the only case which we should describe as willful murder is mentioned in connexion with a merchant, who seems to be treated rather in a class by himself, and is associated with the motive of robbery. The absence of a specific clause dealing with murder has been noticed also in both the code of Hammurabi and in the Assyrian laws. The crime is treated at length in the Israelite code, but we see from such passages as Deuteronomy xix. 12 that the Hebrew judicial authority ties had nothing to do with the murderer except to hand him over to the vengeance of the go-el, the 'redeemer', i.e. the next of kin."
[The Hittites, O.R. Gurney, 1966]