Tony Benn and the Idea of Participation - Professor Vernon Bogdanor

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  • čas přidán 26. 08. 2024
  • Tony Benn has been the most prominent modern spokesman of the movement for participatory democracy. It was he who secured the right of hereditary peers to renounce their titles, the right of the people to vote on membership of the Common Market in the referendum of 1975, and the right of Labour Party members to choose their leader and reselect their MPs. Yet, in the Britain of the 21st century, turnout is lower than it has ever been and the desire to participate seems at a discount, especially amongst the young. Did Benn misunderstand the attitudes of the British people?
    This is a part of the lecture series, Making the Weather: Six politicians who shaped our age.
    Winston Churchill wrote of Joseph Chamberlain, Colonial Secretary at the beginning of the 20th century, that, even though he never became Prime Minister, he 'made the weather', meaning that he played a crucial role in shaping the political agenda of his day. These lectures discuss six postwar politicians, none of whom became Prime Minister, but who, like Joseph Chamberlain, also made the weather and so helped to shape the age in which we live.
    The transcript and downloadable versions of the lecture are available from the Gresham College website:
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    Gresham College has been giving free public lectures since 1597. This tradition continues today with all of our five or so public lectures a week being made available for free download from our website. There are currently nearly 1,500 lectures free to access or download from the website.
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Komentáře • 34

  • @Nounismisation
    @Nounismisation Před 8 lety +17

    Thank you very much for making this available to everyone.

  • @GreshamCollege
    @GreshamCollege  Před 11 lety +8

    Soon! - We're working out how best to up the quality of our videos, and hopefully today we'll be able to find the key and get back up to speed with everything. Sorry to make you wait!

  • @burzija
    @burzija Před 5 lety +19

    Tony's legacy is live and well. Corbyn is a good heir.
    Rest In Power

  • @stievedelance
    @stievedelance Před 10 lety +14

    may he rest in peace

  • @edi3192
    @edi3192 Před 4 lety +17

    I would love to know what he would say about the government we have today 🤦‍♂️

  • @rODIUMuk
    @rODIUMuk Před 10 lety +12

    Really enjoyed this. Watched the whole thing.

  • @AdrenoverseBlogspot
    @AdrenoverseBlogspot Před 10 lety +23

    4:38- 9:39 mins MINT! :) What a loss of an icon in British Politics today... RIP

  • @rODIUMuk
    @rODIUMuk Před 10 lety +15

    He was a genius and a prophet.

  • @coldwar45
    @coldwar45 Před 11 lety +2

    Awesome, thanks a lot for the reply.

  • @c.j.griffin
    @c.j.griffin Před 5 lety +6

    The remark Bogdanor makes about Benn and Concorde is ill-informed.
    Benn took over the Concorde project after it had begun and, although he was against it and had his concerns, he didn't want to make a hundreds of thousands of people unemployed by cancelling the program.

  • @CA-ee1et
    @CA-ee1et Před 4 lety +4

    Just because everyone pays taxes into the state no more means that the state is the embodiment of the people, than if Tesco axquires a monopoly over foodstuffs, and everyone shops at Tesco, means that Tesco is the embodiment of the people. If the state owns an industry it doesn't mean that the voter has "democratic control" over that industry.

  • @coldwar45
    @coldwar45 Před 11 lety +4

    Great video really enjoy Professor Bogdanor and his lectures. When is the next one on Sir Keith Joseph going to be put up?

  • @984francis
    @984francis Před 5 lety +2

    After the act of 1963 was passed, Benn reappeared in the HOC😀

  • @CA-ee1et
    @CA-ee1et Před 4 lety +6

    Very strange that Benn should describe a train where someone offers cups of tea from a Thermos, one family looks after another family's children, and someone promises to phone someone else's son to let him know his mum will be late, everyone gets chatting and pitches in, as a socialist train. Until the toppling of Lansbury in 1935 that might have well been a socialist train - everyone pitching in to help one another. Like the old co-ops and even the working men's clubs movements.
    Post-1935 socialism in the UK replaced self-help and mutual aid with the state. On a real "socialist train" in the UK in the 80s, the person who wanted a cup of tea would have waited for the guard to bring round the tea. The family who needed their kids looking after would have waited for the guard to look after them. The woman who needed her son phoning would have waited for the guard to phone him. The guard would have done none of these tasks - everyone would have received an equally poor service ("The blessing of socialism is the equal sharing of misery" - Churchill). No one would have lifted a finger to do anything for anyone else, because "it's the guard's job" or rather "it's the government's job". The idea that we help our friends, our family, our neighbours, rather than waiting for the state to do it, is alien to British socialism in the post-war era.

  • @richardsheehan6983
    @richardsheehan6983 Před 5 lety +1

    A bit of democratic understanding.

  • @rudraprasadmasa9820
    @rudraprasadmasa9820 Před 9 lety +1

    It

  • @paulgavin3603
    @paulgavin3603 Před 6 lety +2

    Good lecture, misguided subject

  • @DHTCF
    @DHTCF Před 10 lety +11

    Tony Benn has spent his whole life being wrong, and has gotten wronger and wronger with time!

    • @scabycat
      @scabycat Před 9 lety +7

      Harold Wilson described him as getting more and more juvenille as he ages. Thank heavens this ( well meaning ) albeit DELUDED politician was never allowed to implement more of his left wing agenda which does nothing other than spread the POVERTY not the wealth. Just checkout any country in the world where socialism has been allowed to prevail.

    • @madman2028
      @madman2028 Před 9 lety +9

      scabycat What country do you come from.?

    • @DAngelo136
      @DAngelo136 Před 8 lety +3

      +DHTCF Not as wrong as your usage of that word.

    • @DAngelo136
      @DAngelo136 Před 8 lety +11

      +DHTCF Leave it conservatives to believe in "market forces", "profit motives"and "invisible hands" yet accuse Liberals of engaging in "magical thinking"

    • @splinterbyrd
      @splinterbyrd Před 8 lety +3

      +DHTCF unlike today's politicians, at least he wasn't boring.