Unique ammo key to Ukrainian sniper making longest shot in history
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- čas přidán 28. 11. 2023
- A Ukrainian sniper using a Horizon's Lord rifle has been credited with making the world's longest sniper kill - with the secret to its long-range success lying in the type of ammunition that was used.
The Ukrainian-made Volodar Obriyu (Horizon's Lord) is an anti-materiel rifle (AMR) which is capable of making long-range shots and can be particularly effective when coupled with the right ammunition.
According to Security Service of Ukraine (SBU) sources, the sniper killed a Russian soldier 3,800 metres away - 2.36 miles - and a video has been circulating showing the incident.
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Some cool info:
The rifle uses a new cartridge. 12.7x114.
12.7 is the metric equivalent to the .50 Cal. They wanted to increase the range of the rifle, so they looked at the 14.5mm round. That round is made for anti material ONLY, so it has no precision rounds in its caliber. .50 BMG however does have precision bullets. So, they took the 14.5 casing, which can hold 50% more powder than a standard .50 BMG case, and necked it down onto the .50 precision projectile. They basically added NOS to the .50 BMG. Add in the barrel length, which is 2-4 inches MORE than a standard Barret .50 cal, and you get a high velocity heavy round.
There is a company in Ukraine, called SnipeX, that makes rifles that shoot 14.5 and they make one that shoots the type of necked-down cartridge Jonathon described in the video. The rifles they make are HUGE.
Yes. I also can be wrong, but the reason why it is somewhat more impossible to just make a match grade 14.5mm bullet, also stems from the fact bullet drop is likely more of a problem then because of the bullet weight.
So it’s like how the Tiger 2’s gun is compared to the Tiger 1’s
@@13thmistral2 bullets of different weight, shot on a flat plane, traveling the same speed at the muzzle, the heavier round will go further before hitting the ground. This is due to ballistic coefficients and the lighter bullet not being able to resist the drag as well as the heavier.
Same twist rate in the rifling?
At 3800 meters, it is extremely unlikely that the targets ever understood they were hearing someone shooting at them, specifically - it would have sounded like background noise.
At least initially, the bullet was traveling faster than the speed of sound. It may have reached the target before the sound did.
It unquestionably reached the target before the sound was heard. That projectile leaves the muzzle at three times the speed of sound and is probably traveling close to the speed of sound upon impact
@readbetweenthelines6333
3800m in 10 seconds for an average of 380m/s.
Sound travels at 340.
But yeah, even if you heard the report from a previous shot, it's the middle of a war, you'd think nothing of it
Agree, Anyone standing around the L or R bank of Dnipro in last year is going to hear all sorts of whizz bang pop. It’s possible that multiple shots could be done and other guys not notice it. I’ve still got crickets chirping almost 2 year later from Kiev. Hitting the dirt at every sound quickly gets old (might be smart) but still your body has limits when subjected to constant threat
@@m.b.82
So using your numbers the shot would arrive about 1.18 second ahead of the sound (400/340). And you'd be lobbing them in because you need to shoot 1600 feet (D = 16T^2, where T = 10) higher than a straight line with a laser. And that means your barrel would be aimed high and the target could only hear a fraction of the sound he would if he were directly down-barrel. At 2.4 miles away, I don't think hears anything. But if he does it's barely audible.
If I remember the report that this sniper fired, he made the hit on his third attempt. He said he got relatively close the first two times and the person did seem to take notice that something was occurring but he didn't recognize what it was.
Jonathan Ferguson the keeper of firearms and artillery at royal armouries museum in the UK, which houses a collection of thousands of iconic weapons from throughout history.
A factual, calm, analysis of a very very pragmatic case/bullet choice/design, thank you Jonothan.
Mostly factual... He held up a 14.5mm round, and said that the bullet falls between a .50 Cal and a 20mm.
Except... .50 Cal is 12.7mm, which is actually *_smaller than_* the 14.5mm 😅
_[edit: corrected my error in the decimal place numbers.]_
Erm, 12.5mm 14.7mm and then 20mm, so its in the middle, or "falls between".
@@DUKE_of_RAMBLE
@@marcusgault9909 Well in the way and order he said it, it wasn't conveyed that way. Specifically because he didn't give the size conversions, I had provided .50's mm conversion here just for context.
@@DUKE_of_RAMBLE no, he quite clearly says "This is a 14.5mm round, part way between a 50 BMG and a 20mm cannon round"
@@DUKE_of_RAMBLE apart from him never holding up a 14.7 mm round
Distance is a suppressor in and of itself. So whilst the projectile is still breaking the speed of sound, they are highly unlikely to have heard the muzzle report at the claimed 3800 metres.
Probably had a few goes at them, and they never knew what was happening until it was too late.
Good point, plus this isn’t often a quite and serene nature walk.
im starting to think the supressor is not there to mask the gun´s report from the enemy but to help the shooters ears from overpressure. we have the luxury of hearing protection. they usually dont.
Not all targets will be so distant so a suppressor is still an excellent idea for sniper rifles. A suppressor also reduces recoil substantially--not as much as an efficient muzzle brake but given the choice between a suppressor or muzzle brake I'll take a suppressor every time.
@@g-low6365 By and large, yes. Suppressors are only really needed for people whom are close to the muzzle.
@@g-low6365 Why, active hearing protection is fairly common in high tier units in Ukraine
here in Croatia we have developed RT-20(rt means ručni top/hand cannon) anti material rifle which fires anti aircraft Hispano 20mm rounds. and it can fire at 2000m distances
20 mm?!
@@kiereluurs1243 yep
Yes, but that 2000m effective range likely is the effective range against anti-materiel targets, which are bulkier targets then a human though.
@@13thmistral the rifle was made to shoot of tank sensors and apc and ifv. Google it what kind of bullet that is.its a cannon for crying out loud...not a bullet...it is huge.and you have videos of men firing rt-20.
As to my knowledge there are few more 20mm anti material rifles but none of them shoot hispano anti aircraft bullet so that makes them less powerfull
@@zagrepcanin82 Denel's website once stated they actually have a 20x110mm variant of their NTW, and CMS 20X110MM from Truvelo is also a thing.
In the mean time Anzio ironworks made a rifle firing 20mm vulcan, which is a round that actually should be more powerful. The RT-20 is also rather a recoiless rifle, meaning the recoil on it is really smooth and the base design is basic and reliable, but that also means a lot of gas should already be escaping in an other way.
Do not get me wrong, i actually think it is a really interesting weapon though, but it being the most powerful or even the only rifle firing that kind of cartridge is not correct.
Skills will get you in the ballpark but a shot at this range requires a lot of luck.
Yep, the simple fact that the flight time is so long means the target couldn't move substantially or had to by chance move however slightly to where the impact would take place means chance had to be involved, which I'm sure the shooter would fully admit. But you're also right about the skill. The skill required to get in that ballpark isn't small.
I agree with the commentator on some points but as a competitive long range full bore shooter, you dont want a light projectile - it looses its energy quickly & gets blown around by any external forces. A big, heavy, fast moving boat tailed spitzer is the most efficient for long range accurate shooting.
You dont consider that perhaps the people in charge thought of using greater mass projectiles?
@@philmenzies2477 I know it was an oversimplified description but using that German cartridge with a huge case & small projectile as an example is definitely not what you want. In theory the physical limit of the size of the projectile will be the recoil of the weapon & practicality - like weight & ease of lugging the thing around, hence with the advent of Muzzle Breaks the cartridges used became much bigger as the rifles didn't have to be as heavy to absorb felt recoil. For a long time the lowly 7.62 x 51 (308win equivalent) was considered to be the ideal sniper round due to its "inherent accuracy", then came cartridges like the 338 etc. Now the .50BMG is the accepted standard in sniper cartridges thanks to Mr Barretts development of a rifle that can be fired from the shoulder & be taken down into two parts so that a sniper team can easily carry it.
I think in this specific situation, “light” is relative - it’s described as a 750 grain projectile…
@@sergeantrandomusmc ...and they were the best available Hornady match grade bullets
@@TheRealKlinkyThat was for short ranged anti tank work, it’s perfect for its role. You misunderstand what it’s for
Quite something if true. And a lot of other kit needed - spotting scope, laser range finder, wind and air temp measurement, calculation tables for coreolis and spin drift. You'd expect to have to put a couple of sighters at least down range before achieving a hit.
The environmentals could possibly be handled through a ballistics app. Possibly. A kestrel with ballistic software would be ideal.(That's how I would do it if possible. Takes most of the guess work out of the equation. I'm guessing but if they have a labradar I'm willing to bet they have something like a kestrel with ballistic software.) Obviously they would have to input velocity under the .50 bullet. As for ranging a target at that range, that's tricky. Could it be done via scope and doing the calculations? I suppose so if the spotting scope is of high quality and has the reticle for it. Laser range finder? Absolutely if it has the range for that kind of distance. (Or somehow the position was a known distance.) I am mostly curious as to how they determined the range.
@@oif3vetk9kestrels are great from the point of the shot but over 3 miles there will be a lot of other effects and climatic changes. Maybe spotters closer to the target have environmental sensors too.. Probably a hell of a lot of luck involved if true.
There was a video I watched about a group of snipers called the ghosts of bakhmut (they didn't chose that name) that operate a whole bunch of guns, RPKs with massive thermals, Barret MRAD, Barret 50 cal, UR-10 and the 14.5mm snipex alligator are just some that I remember and they said that a normal range to use that snipex alligator is 4kms now that's obviously far but they said that they use it to hit BMPs and other APCs which is easier to hit because of the size of the target. There is clips of them using it to take out infantry with it and from what they say about their work is that absolutely everything is done from hold-off, they said that it's much easier and quicker when your shooting in a target rich environment to at different ranges to use hold-off and it's what they use 90 percent of the time, that being said the sniper that made this shot was a sniper from the SBU alpha group so there's a chance he was probably up there within the most elite snipers in Ukraine.
Or included a lot of luck
Ukrainian snipers have gotten rid of their laser range finders. Some Russian tanks are equipped with laser detectors that allow them to target the origin of the beam -- Ukraine lost some good shooters before they figured it out.
Interesting as far as it goes, but it ignores the biggest factors affecting long-range accuracy: Wind and mirage. They play a role no matter how great the ballistics, the scope and the rifle.
Another crucial factor is point of impact from a cold barrel. It always changes at least slightly as the barrel warms with firing, so Joe Sniper has to know where and how much. At such long range the difference will be considerable. I realize we don’t know the circumstances of the shot.
I also wonder about barrel life. Throat erosion is likely to be severe with a cartridge like this. How many rounds before accuracy suffers? I’d love to know.
Plus, it was luck for the sniper that the target did not move in the time it took the bullet to reach him.
@@kel3ler Well it's so far away in a years long active war zone, a suppressed AMR probably sounded like background noise.
You are right. If the heat make you «miss» by 1cm at 100 meters, you will miss by 40 cm at 3800 meters. Not mutch, but you will miss the target. A change of Wind will make you miss.
Very unlikely that it was a first round hit. If it was anything like the previous record shot they probably walked the rounds in. Virtually impossible to read wind at even half that distance- it could be blowing in 5 different directions and at 3 different speeds between the shooter and the target.
@@ratherbefishing4225difference being that jtf2 walked their rounds in over the course of 52 days of shooting and spotting. They also had a team of 4 with 2 rifles and 2 spotters and fired hundreds of rounds of match grade ammo with some of the best training in the world. You can't even see your target at that distance through the rifle optic. You gotta let your spotter adjust for you
I thought this was the infamous Alligator rifle at first. Certainly very similar in appearance and application.
It has a Bartlien barrel same as AI uses which is premium. It also used machined solid brass bullets and stiletto AP rounds. very slow stick powder is now being used. I’ve been told that its original loads were very low pressure relative to case due to powders and bullet constraints. It can hit 3400 fps or 3300 depending on bullet weight. Glass used was Atacr 7-35x, Tangent Theta or Zero Compromise are also used. All three above have been used and are preferred by UA snipers.
The Hornady 750gr Amatch are also used but better bullets in the 800gr solids are preferable with the new powder.
Is the sniper related to the ghost of Kiev?
He is also the ghost of keev
Outstanding GUEST. Thank you for the video
Longest shot? I think you mean longest kill.
Actually open your clock app or find a clock with a second hand and watch how long 9 seconds is. Actually do it, because most people count seconds quite a bit faster than they actually pass. 9 seconds is how long it took for the bullet to travel from the muzzle to the target. That's such a long time in relation to the kinds of velocities bullets travel at. 2.3 miles, 3800 meters. No wonder the shooter stepped forward to claim his shot. Even with a high skill level, nailing that shot in one was a borderline miracle lol.
Remember that suppressors can add velocity.
JTF2 had held the record for some years now. Congratulations to the Ghost. I wonder what the receiver is made of and how heavy it is overall.
About 1.6 meters long with stock folded. Bare rifle with bipod is within 16 kilograms.
Figures are from the Ukrainian MoD tender for single shot anti materiel rifle. They're going big for these things.
@@prfwrx2497they used to make plumbing pipes)
Part of me is sad to hear that a Canadian lost the record. Then again, there's no shame in being second-best when it's for a good cause.
What surprises me the most is that rifle doesn't look all that fancy. But if it works, it works!
Cdns still have some of the best records in the top 10 longest shots. If Cdns r ever allowed to fight, I m sure they will beat the record again.
@@blin1776 tbh I'd rather hope that we never have to break that record again
I think when it comes to precision you don't need fancy you want to just isolate variables. Having a magazine is extra weight and bulk that could instead be used for a longer and stiffer barrel.
@@1nONLY_DRockYou said in your previous comment that you were sad? Now you say I hope we don't have to do it again?.....what is it to be?
@@nickjohnson710 I can still appreciate a difficult achievement when it's done. Not that difficult to wrap your little noodle around.
1:27 it's the Eargesplitten Loudenboomer
Very informative
2 world sniper records set with that shot.
The guy who made the shot for the longest shot ever
And the guy who got shot for being the receiver of the longest shot ever.
Records are made to be broken. Fact of life , not limited to sports.
Jonathan, the UK's Gun Jesus.
At that point, the dude is basically shooting a shoulder mounted mini artillery round
This certainly looks like the sort of stuff i did studies on.
Greetings,
Jeff
Very interesting. More Jonathan Ferguson please.
One problem with fielding this type of 'mega rifle' is that modern technology has made them obsolete. FPV drones have re-written battlefield tactics. I don't know the actual weight of this particular rifle, but it's overall size and bulkiness would be a burden on the individual sniper to transport it up to the front lines for deployment against enemy personnel. The claimed 3800 meter kill shot is well within range of even the smallest FPV drone equipped with an explosive charge and they can be launched clandestinely without a large signature report and they have become very affordable. Standard sniping platforms are still very useful on the modern battlefield (especially when equipped with thermal optics) that can create a tactical advantage for both offensive and defensive applications.
Very interesting that, although the shooter is right handed, the bolt is on the left hand side. I suppose that means he doesn't lose the sight picture as he reloads.
Huh? If you're shooting righty it's more practical. Shooting lefty the bolt should be on the right. Otherwise you'd have to disengage the trigger and grip to engage the bolt. Right? Or am I trippin?
Its normal rifle for right handed person. Don't want a rifle where you have to take your hand away from the trigger to work the bolt. One hand stays put near the trigger while the other works the bolt so the shooter can get off another shot quickly if needed.
What is more or less a new precision version of Raufoss round is under development, based on the profile of the same Hornady A-Max projectiles. Rounds are made from forged rods of an alloy of alumina bronze, then individually machined, IIRC. There have been challenges making these rounds as accurate due to the variations in weight caused by the explosive fill. Projectile is basically three components, the projectile body, the explosive fill (compressed pellet, thermo-molded) and the aerodynamic tip/initiator (various hardened metals have been tested, including DU, carbide, aluminum). Every time one of the components changes, the balance of the round changes, and everything else has to be tweaked. Unlikely that these rounds will ever match the precision of the current rounds, but will offer enough precision (and oomph) be increase the anti-materiel capability.
Wildcat means the cartridge design has not been registered at SAAMI.
Wildcats predate saami
That is a hell of a gun. I bet I gives some backlash.
wtf is backlash
Looks like it has a floating barrel, so not directly coupled to the frame
You mean *recoil.
English please.
Backlash probably means it lashes back?
Hey thats Jonathan Ferguson, keeper of firearms and artillery at the royal armory museum in the UK whitch houses a collection of iconic weapons from throughout history.
One of the most important things to avoid recoil affecting accuracy is having the center of gravity of the whole thing be as close as possible to the center of the bore. With artillery pieces this is achieved by having the whole barrel slide freely backwards until the projectile exits the barrel, at which point the hydraulic dampers start to slow down the barrel. With a rifle that's not a practical option, though apparently it's been tried.
The alternative is to make sure everything attached to the barrel is balanced in such a way that as the barrel is accelerated backwards there are no lateral moments exerted on it. This ensures that to the greatest extent possible the barrel moves only backwards along its axis in the recoil. Something that surprises me in this respect is how often sniper rifles seem to lack this balance, though of course it may be just a visual thing as it is not really that easy to estimate the balance of something by just looking at it. This particular rifle though does look very balanced in that respect, even visually.
Another thing which helps a lot is a smooth bore as opposed to a rifled one as spinning up the bullet causes a twisting rotation in the opposite direction in the barrel which also interacts with the various attachments to the barrel in a rather unpredictable way inducing small but significant lateral motions.
But without spin on the bullet it'll start tumbling pretty soon after being fired since the spin is what stabilizes it.
@@darkiee69Not necessarily. This particular gun is actually a smooth bore and its bullets don't tumble. Spin is not the only way to stabilize a projectile and used to be for a long time. Aerodynamics is the other way to stabilize it. Various tanks, the Abrams for example, also have smooth bore guns and I think even some artillery pieces.
@@listerdave1240 That's because tank ammo is fin stabilized, just like some artillery. Bullets aren't. And where did you get the idea that this is a smooth bore barrel?
Wonder what tthe muzzle velociy is?
8 billion light years per cubic slug kilometer squared to the nineteenth power of Austin.
My guess is roughly 1500 m/s.
@@derekp2674 Plausible guess!
@@d9720267 It was based on general knowledge of what modern tank cannons achieve plus first hand experience of using 7.62 mm rifles to accelerate 6 mm steel spheres to that velocity for impact research.
Those are not A-max bullets, this is clearly A-tip. their flagship alluminium tipped match bullets
"Get that Slav a cannon. Slavs love cannons." - Alucard
The target would go down before anyone heard the shot.
Belier!
So no proof this shot actually hit the target.
If BBC / SUN reported it, it'd definately be called a game changer. 😂
It doesn't seem like this would be a useful gun for a sniper to have, the big fireball leaving the gun is a dead giveaway of your location
Ain't noone seeing your fireball from almost 4km away
The actual rifle name is snipex m100x
Can we neglect the coriolis-effect while shooting in East-West or West-East direction ??
The Coriolis phenomenon affects the flight of a bullet in the Northern Hemisphere so that when firing north or south, the bullet sways to the right and in the Southern Hemisphere to the left. The more your firing line is in the east-west direction, the less the effect of the Coriolis. Depending what latitude you are on it varies, most near the poles and less at the equator. At 45 deg N its about 60 - 75mm to the right at 1000m
When shooting a bullet to the east or west, the Eötvös Effect also affects the flight. When a bullet is fired in the direction of rotation of the earth, i.e. to the east, the shots hit high. If the bullet is shot west, the shots hit low. Its opposite to the Coriolis effect in that its strongest at the equator and zero at the poles.
@@mirandahotspring4019 Thanks, as I thought... I once explained it to my sons: Imagine a gun which can reach Oslo from Cologne in Germany. If you fire in Oslo direction you will probably hit Helsinki.
@@sterno5119 Well, Helsinki might be stretching it a bit, given that its about 800km to the east, and the Coriolis effect on a Cologne to Oslo shot would be more like 80m, but it is in the right direction!
But then again, some of the artillery officers I knew in the army...
@@mirandahotspring4019 Only 80 meters? From Cologne top Oslo it would take a shell maybe one hour. Within one hour Oslo "moves away" westward only 80 meters?🤔
@@sterno5119 The shell leaves the muzzle with the earth's spin as part of its momentum.
Aa an example, a flight from Oslo to Helsinki still takes the same time as a flight from Helsinki to Oslo. Both take about 1 hour 30min. The plane doesn't have to catch up with Helsinki because its rotating away, or get to Oslo any quicker because its rotating towards it. In fact the flight to Helsinki is usually about 10min faster due to the jet stream.
The plane, like the projectile, is in the atmosphere that is (apart from wind variations) rotating with the earth. The Coriolis effect is actually quite small.
Oh my word, that round hitting personnel. I think the environment helped set this up. Still, what a insane shot!
Curious about barrel life?....
Yeah, yeah. Ghost sniper of Kiev.
Erm, you can fully serpress the sound of a round like that, company in the US does it, they did it with the 50 cal when everyone said that couldn't be done either
Yeah but the bullet would only be going 1000 fps so it's pointless.
I'm doubtful of this, during previous records there has been evidence presented to back up claims, I'd be interested to know every detail from scope used to evidence backing it up.
Mustache made Lillith from cheers sound good.
Nanomachines SON!!
Have I seen that guy doing stand up
You WOULDN'T HEAR IT COMING. The bullet travels faster than the speed of sound. That's why you don't hear the sonic boom until the jet is gone.
You would need to be shooting at a very high arc to allow the projectile to travel for 9 seconds.
Gravity is the same for a projectile in flight and if you dropped it. If I fire a projectile flat and dropped one at the same time at the same height to the ground they would both hit the ground at the same time.
9 seconds in flight is more than twice the time of a punted football and look at the arc on a football.
Mathematically it is very hard to believe a bullet is in flight for 9 seconds and is accurate.
That cartridge you show is not a 50 caliber round. 50 cal is in reference to the diameter of the projectile and thet sure isnt a half inch diameter.
At 2:00 he quite clearly states that it's a 14.5mm round before holding up a 12.7mm/.50" round for comparison. 🙄
No link for the actual kill shot? Book
Key word. CLAIM!
Any good sniper won't be insulted by your mention of the luck factor!
I did some napkin math on this shortly after the claim was made...
A 0.1 of a mph error in wind estimation would have been a miss and 1 mph was something like 20 feet....
They had a 4% probability of making a hit and funny enough I did all the calculations using the 750gr 50bmg with 3,000 fps as it's velocity
The skill was knowing what math he needed to get in the ball park...
The rest was pure unadulterated luck...
I still have doubts that it was first round regardless of what the military report says simply due to the propaganda factor...
DAMN
At 3800 meters, it would take just over 4 seconds for the bullet to travel that distance.(figuring a modest 3000 fps).
Nope, Bullet slows down the further it goes and average speed at that distance is well below 3000 fps
awesome and professional comment
He used the magic bullet
Bullflighttime 3 sec 😂😂😂 This is never ever a shoot about this distance.
No mention, but I presume there has to be barrel swap outs to match the bore to the bullet, is this a hot swappable thing or is each gun permanently dedicated to each round type?
it uses the necked down specialist round all the time, they have the snipex alligator for the 14.5
It was the ghost of Kiev reporting that shot in between shooting down 10 Russian jets a day…🤦♂️
NORMA ammunition must have been involved in this. 🧐
I wonder if the Ghost of Keiv made this shot?
No, it was made by master of sports Vyacheslav Kovalskyi
So, don'T stand still for too long!
I thought a 30-06 was ridiculous.
How do they know target was death?
Flat earth people can't shoot with this gun 😂😂😂
The rotation of the earth 😂
Yes that is a thing.
Legend has it, after this, the entire Russian army reinforced every soldier with extra plastic in their helmets and body armor xD
Ukrainian weapons superb!
Back a few years ago i dreamed of anti tank rifle / anti material rifle being used as just anti person sniper, never imagined it would be in use
What? They've been in use since they were made for anti personnel.
It has been used like that at least since the Viet Nam war when a guy put a scope on a 12,7mm machinegun modified for single shot after what I have read. For some reason there is lot of Amarican`s that claim 12,7mm is never and have never been used for anti personell, that is just not so. And there is lot of videos on youtube of 12,7mm and larger being used as anti personnel sniping in war, specially in Afghanistan.
Xproduct... Can Cannons.
This would make an awesome weapons system if coupled with an AI sighting and shooting apparatus.
You would want a rubber but pad on the stock, it would kick like a mule.
Thank you for spreading the secret to the enemy
None of this is secret. The russians are incompetent for two reasons. 1) They fail to properly follow and capitalize on well known facts and logic. All the information exists in the world and has for a long time they're just too incompetent to DO it. 2) They're too poor to be able to afford a lot of the stuff Ukraine can. Especially when their soldiers are dying such large numbers. They can't afford to equip russians with multi-million dollar kits cause they'll just die and lose it all anyway. The Ukrainians are much more effective and stay alive so they can actually make use of expensive stuff.
At a mile is almost impossible to hit a target. Double it and add a half a mile......wtf
Yeah.
Everybody can say that ...
Another case of worlds #1 elite armed forces super soldiering being carried out by its regular troop being reported on this front again. WOW.. who needs tactical operations and special forces Corp in today's armies.
surprised theyve not made an electric magnetic sniper rifle yet cant see why that shouldnt work
Simple, the weight of the batteries and magnets.
Sounds like ghost of Kiev 2.0....
1:20 22 Eargesplitten Loudenboomer
Yeah...This is probably as legit as "The Ghost of Kiev" pilot.
My thought exactly!😅
but this is not fake. Nevertheless you would like it is fake ! To bad for you !
@@nelaVanBrussel I'd actually like it to be real. My Great Grandparents were from the Ukraine and left in the 1920s because the Russians were messing with them back then too. That said, I don't believe war propaganda unless there is a lot of evidence it happened.
Likely have to retrain nightclub doormen so these deadly weapons aren't sneaked into clubs.
That munitions is not intended for squishy
Seeing the target is the first problem on some rifle scopes if you put them on full magnification even with adjustment the target is blurry.
Then don’t zoom in on the pink. But there’s NO REASON not to show what war really is.
Considering the sophistication of modern weapons, the odds of surviving a battle must be very small. This makes war unaffordable. After all you can mass produce weapons much faster than you can train soldiers. The paradigm of troops vs troops is obsolete. The next big war will probably cyberwarfare. Heavan help us all because NOBODY has a clue how that would turn out.
Just a bit of top trumps really
At these extra distances it takes at lease three to four seconds to reach the target.....so should the target move,the target will be missed.Difficulty is anormise.
It took 9 seconds...
10 second flight time? Really? 3800 meters in 10 seconds is only an average of 380 meters per second.
Yes, air resistance does weird things
I respect a country defending itself so don’t take this the wrong way, but I highly doubt this actually happened. Just like ghost of Kiev, they have to tell stories to keep morale high.
Footage does not seem to come from the rifle's scope. What is highlighted are two soldiers standing next to eachother (center) and a separate one (to the right). It is not shown here, but when they are hit, the couple soldiers to the left just crouch and move to the right, towards the other soldier who seems to have dropped dead.
But it is the guys to the left that are highlighted and whom it would make more sense to target, because there are more chances to strike one of them, standing close together, than striking a solitary figure. Therefore, it looks like the sniper might have targetted the guys to the left but missed them, killing by chance the other one to the right.
If that was the case, should we still count this shot as a successful one in terms of aiming records? I suppose not. I am just asking, I am not a shooter.
They might have known the other guy to the right was an officer, perhaps, and that’s why they went for the harder shot
@@mduckernz , that's true but seems unlikely. Despite all the generals killed so far, Russian officers are known to remain behind. Plus, they would need to have better images to identify an officer, from a drone or spotter close by, right before the shot. Because people don't remain static for long. And we would then be shown those images. My guess is that all there was is the sniper with his scope, barely able to recognize humans against the background.
@@nomcognom2414Ukraine is streaming drone footage back to command, it's pretty likely the sniper wasn't just randomly looking for a target. Snipers are high value soldiers generally used for specific missions not just dropped in a spot and told good luck.
@@thirtythreeeyes8624 , the sniper has been interviewed and appeared in the media. The story goes that it was his spotter who gave the order to shoot after making all calculations, when it was established the target was an officer giving orders to soldiers. I remain a bit skeptical. They should normally have better footage to show, but who knows. It's just such a long shot! Sniper claims have sometimes been dubious. Such a long shot, if true, seems very lucky and is bound to raise doubts. Plus, true or not, it is good propaganda for Ukraine. As for sniper missions, yes, they will often go after special targets, but given the nature of today's war at the front line, it is often a matter of deterrence, attrition, and psychological warfare by hitting anyone venturing out of their trenches. Hundreds if not thousands of Ukrainian snipers are busy on a daily basis. It will very rarely be the case they can go for a Russian colonel or general. And a special mission to kill a simple lieutenant or a captain in a trench, in hellish conditions, seems more unlikely.
@@nomcognom2414 You're right about the general use of snipers in this war but, at the same time with this being the Ukrainians prized gun so to speak and the sniper team seemingly being world class I'm less sure they'd be sending them out without a clear mission.
As the commentator rightly pointed out, this had to be a lucky shot. No doubt Russian snipers get these lucky shots every now and then. And as the commentator again rightly pointed out, "this is not a game changer", for either side.
Exactly. He probably took 10 other shots that missed
Ukrainian shooter, not Russian...
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