Can Archaeologists Find The Medieval Irish Castle Of Dungannon? | Time Team | Chronicle
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- The team visits Northern Ireland to locate one of the most important sites in Anglo-Irish history - a hilltop castle above the city of Dungannon, home of the powerful O'Neill dynasty, whose story culminates in the hugely significant flight of the Earls. The team is joined by Colm Donnelly, Hiram Morgan, Paul Logue, and Jim O'Neill.
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My ancestors were O'Neills and the family crest features a red hand dripping blood, the red hand of Ulster. The legend I was told from my grandfather was that the great chieftains were all in a boat approaching the shore of Ireland for the first time and there was a prophecy that the first of them to lay his hand on Irish soil would be king so while the were still too far to jump off the boats and wade ashore the O'Neill chopped of his own hand and threw it onto the beach so he'd be the one to fulfil the prophecy.
I learned more about the history of the invasion and occupation of Ulster by the British in this 48:44 minutes than I learned in school. Now I have a few rabbit holes to go down.
Can I help
They occupied the entire Ireland. Now they hold only a part of Ulster, and not for much longer.
Soon enough, there will be no UK.
A new episode, unreleased in HD to this day! Thank you so much!!
This is really cool. My great-grandfather was an O'Neill from Ireland.
My husband's 10x great grandmother was an O' Neill and his 10x great grandfather was Sorley Boy Mac Donell. His wife was Mary O' Neill. Her son's wife was also called Mary O'Neill.
It's my husband's mother's father's side of the family. ❤
Look up the oneill blood line. Oneills are all gone.
@@thomasmcshane2523 except traditional ancestry doesn't usually include matrelineal lines. But modern ancestry does. Many people have found they are descendants but since it's the women, they don't bear the "O'Neill" name.
@@joyful_tanya anyone that has the o'niell name is not from this family. The royal blood line for the O'Neill changed their names.
@@thomasmcshane2523 right, but on genealogical research which goes back to the 1400s they would have still borne the O'Neill name. Ancestors, not currently. Matralineal lines always change their names. That is why they never followed the mother's and daughter's bloodlines. How many married women from the 13th -19th century didn't change their names to their husband's? That is why mother's family names were given as a middle or additional name. So future generations know what family she was born into.
The O'Neill history and battles are right out of The Game of Thrones - strategy, deceit and murder. One chapter of that history is reminiscent of "The Red Wedding". Alas, my ancestors were the Cawlfeilds (Caulfeilds). The constant battles led my ancestor to leave Ireland and settle in the Virginia Colony in the mid-1700's. The history of Northern Ireland is fascinating and I hope to visit someday.
No such thing as Northern Irish history that is Irish history.
Yes the murder of shane o'niell and his sons fled to the woods and got slaughtered and hid for 200 years
Very much enjoying this history, my ancestry Hoy, Hoy Island Orkney, HAEY Norse, O hEochaidh Dal Fiatach Dynasty, Clanna Dedad First ancient high Kings of Ireland, looking back on history and today truly amazing how far we all have come along way, thank you, all the very best, love this channel.
Absolutely nothing can change history;
we can only make it and this group of people really know how to tell it.
The British treatment of the Cathatch of St. Columba in their "restoration" was so backwards, barbaric and destructive that it's proof that not only can history be changed, but that Cathatch was indeed a divine relic under holy protection because in spite it all, much of the book survived. Leave it to a ghoulish Brit to exhume a corpse to engender their own myopic take on how that dead person lived.
*bbc has entered the chat*
How old is this episode I am wondering? Looking on Google Earth and exploring the area using street view I am amazed how amazing the park and the area are today,
It's several years old more than 10, as Mick passed away in 2013.
October 2007. See also Donnelly, C., Murray, E., and Logue, P., 2007: “Excavating with Time Team at Castle
Hill, Dungannon, Co. Tyrone”, Archaeology Ireland 21.4,16-19.
I am not surprised that the English army desecrated an Irish historic monument for their own uses.
They did much more than that
So funny what Mic said near the end. Thanks for the episode
I wish I could get the thumbnail art for this particular episode. It's really cool.
This guy is the best
That's Baldrick! I mean, Tony Robinson. I can't say how happy the sound of his voice makes me! This is the first episode of this I've come across but will be sure to watch all that I'm able if he's involved. Oh, the history and archaeology is very cool too!
Oh man, you're in for a treat. He's one of my favorite presenters. You have years of enjoyment ahead.
Love your narration.
Love it when Phil finds any drinking vessel. lol. Good ol mick:)
I was told that McNelis is a sept of Clan McNeil. Which came from the Irish high King Uí Niall.
There were oneills of O'Neill blood and and ones that just lived within the lands of the oneills. Anyone with the O'Neill name name is not of the blood oniel
Our fermanagh line was part of the 9 year war and flight of the earls.
Maternal grandmother was an O’Neil.
Her and thousands aside. One of the most prominent names in Ireland. It's probably more likely that she was a servant or peasant under the control of the O'Neills rather than directly related
I went to a Catholic school in NW England and over 70% of students were of Irish descent.
Every family claimed to be kings of Ireland. We all knew it was nonsense but one sister worked with a woman who believed it of her family. Because her Grandma told her. 😂
The oneill blood line changed their name 400 years ago
@@TerriblyNice_Not you are all too right.
@@helenamcginty4920 who do you think we're the kings of Ireland
Ye appear to have forgotten to mention Ulster went from being the most Irish to the most Protestant English in a flash due to the genocide of the Irish natives. Remarkable that you presented it in such a positive light. Ye might have at least referred to it briefly in a sensitive way. To make an additional point, Ireland had a market economy, the pottery you found is an artefact of that. Again, patronising to suggest the English brought market economy to Ireland. Our ancient Bogman bodies showed evidence of travel and trade thousands of years ago. The English brought trade in slavery and indenture, the economy of war, and the export of that which they stole. Other than that, an interesting episode. Made me tingle to think of holding those stones from the walls in my hands, the same stone held by a workman who put it there so long ago.
Due to war lad. If our nobles didn't leave Ulster we might have held back the invasion as much as in Munster. This was a time of war. The Gaelic Irish took slaves from Britain. If we weren't so at each other's throats we could have put up a decent resistance. But alas, we loved nothing more than siding with the English to spite our neighbour.
@@jackocallaghan9077 that is not what happened. Some left yes. Things would be very different if there was a different man in power
Hi I'm related to the earls of Tyrone
How so
Bartlett was so accurate with his paintings that when he was captured, he was executed as to not allow him to scout ireland anymore.
Very interesting!
And now we have an O’Neill back in power! 🇮🇪🇮🇪🇮🇪🇮🇪🇮🇪🇮🇪🇮🇪🇮🇪🇮🇪
Aughrim or the boyne or viniger Hill, dundalk was where cromwell landed, too many examples of English slaughter on this isle to mention ...and we are still held to blame for the seige of derry ...which was organised by a scot ,..we would like all of our island back someday please 😊
I would love this. Let the true people have their lands
There are some ancient places only known to some which would change our current history and there are those who would want to keep it that way.
Please find Grandad's house. ☘️ Hello from his Australian convict lineage.
One thing that is common, everything unearthed is reburied.
Can I ask who made the lovely thumbnail artwork for this video?
cheers.
I dont know how i missed this episode!
My ancestors spelled it Neil instead of Neill. But they were in America by the early 1700s.
Literacy wasn't what it is now, and spelling was somewhat 'variable' in the 18th and 19th centuries. We have learned to always check for alternate surname spellings in immigration, church, census, marriage and death records when researching family geneology.
My ancestors spelled our name Verano, it was actually Verano like the Italian city Verano, since that's where we came from.
When my great grandparents got here to the USA it was somehow changed to Virano... It happens
Ha ha. My gt gt grandfather was an illterate Polish immigrant to 19th century England. Every census his name was spelled differently. Thd best was on his daughter's marriage certificate. It was a family joke passed down even to my generation. Steincabbage. 😂
Ireland ~ Our land 😊
Has anyone ever noticed how out of key the theme song is for this series?
So many broken pots......so many huge piss up's?.....i remember my grandfather's wake lasted 3 day's and travelled through 3 different counties, Derry, Donegal and Leitrim.
Was that Raysan Al-Kubaisi?
I don't understand why they keep saying
"We've only been given 3 days"
that's all they do is 3 days, I'm pretty sure if they needed to stay a week that wouldn't be a problem in most cases
Budgets and formatting. They do very rarely go over the three days but it is rare.
They have other jobs. Directors at Historic England etc, professors at universities, other projects running at the same time.
Both of the above. Because most were/are real atcheologists with day jobs, these had to be filmed over a long weekend. Furthermore, as a regulare television show, time was needed for the production company to edit the show together, hence a standard format. However, when they uncovered something interesting, or were asked to do an assessment, later follow up digs by local or specialized archeologist would be set in motion. Those results would be in various academic journals, and will, however briefly, mention time team's work.
All 285 episodes of Time Team are 3 day digs. It's the format of the show.
Good seeing most you blokes hard at it. You do fantastic work. All except for one. All he does is talks and talks a bit more and more. He must be a boss???
If you are referring to Tony Robinson he is an actor who acts as narrator and as jo public by asking questions that someone with no background knowledge might be arguing.
Or if you refer to Mick Aston he is an experienced and much respected archaeologist who ususlly runs the team.
If you are referring to Tony, he was one of the show's producers which makes him one of the bosses.
🤩🙌🥳
We all moved to Canada during 1800 potato famine.
not all .. many came to Australia as well.
Actual oniell or just someone that lived in their kingdom. Servants took the last name too
My ancestors was descendants of the dunlops of scottland
The Irish who fled to the woods became known as Tories. Bit of irony there
Are you talking about the sons of Shane oniell
13:37 Ohh! I love Kevin! I just hope it doesn’t turn out to be a Todd.
? ? (Not nit-picking, but is this snark?) Briget is an Aussie, so her accent makes "cabin" sound like "Kevin."
As a Canuck, I had teachers from all over the Empire, as a consequence, I can generally decipher the accents thereof.
@@lpeterman oh jeez-us 🤦🏻♂️
Well, at least I asked if it were snark.@@Andy_Babb
@@lpeterman lol fair enough. But yes lol it was most certainly snark. I’m a snarky f-er 🤷🏻♂️ 😊
As am I generally, but sometimes it's hard to get tone from a written post. 😁@@Andy_Babb
Dungannon was burned down a number of times in the 15 and 1600s. Like some mad arsonist tribe was loose….instead of the Scots/English plantation troops trying destroy Irish rule and after Henry VIII, Destroying the Catholic Church in Ireland. At least later you were honest about the brutality of the English troops to the Irish people. Colonial England for centuries caused a shtload of suffering, worldwide.
I’m naive, how is there feet of soil burying all the history in Great Britain? In the US we’re lucking to have even inches of top soil.
Not sure but i'd guess time. Plus maybe, at times, topography.
I know that pavings in my late parent's garden on a very slight slope was at least half a spade depth underground. They bought the house in 1964 but it was only built in a green field 21 years previously. So the path would have been younger. We get a lot of rain so plenty of time for vegetation to grow and rot.
We kids loved exploring and rooting around. There was a cast iron car chasis buried in one corner.
Over time people take the stones for other buildings, land is repurposed and plowed over and backfilled, etc. but it's case specific because there are sites where archeology can be found with little digging or just sitting on the surface.
It's smaller than the US by orders of magnitude and all the good spots will be reused endlessly by inhabitants.
Ireland is'nt part of Great Britain its a separate Island. Americans really are stupid
I wonder about your impression of there being only inches of top soil covering finds in the US. Depends entirely on where one is looking. As an "American," I can say with confidence that our archeology is far behind that of GB.
If they only had LIDAR
Nvm there it is. 28:37
Dungannon isn't a city. It's a town.
Use the LIDAR?
You need angled light. Sunrise/sunset. And no clouds. And I suspect the site is too enclosed??
I think LiDAR is designed to ‘see’ through trees!
Answer : No
Oh wow....I can't believe it....they found.....POTTERY....and ROCKS. Remarkable absolutely remarkable
I don't think you should be watching archaeological videos
You echo my son. Back when we watched on tv. "Oh no! A shadow of a post hole! Oh a robbed out wall!"
I pointed out that thats how his favourite Roman sites had been identified.
Ya and when you're educated and experienced those minor items can paint a picture more vivid than anything that ever entered your brain.
Laser; switch what you watch to modern/science/hi-tech shows.
Archaeology obviously is not to your sense of humour.
That response for Pottery and Rocks....
Imagine when a COIN is found.
Oh, he is bullying in this channel too
Ireland - independant sovereign nation. Scotland - independant sovereign nation. Wales - independant sovereign nation. England - should have stayed in its own lane!
England invaded by angles, saxons, vikings most recently by Normans ...who were actually Vikings . All these countries were lived in by the Picts and Celts . How far back do you want to and who rules who.
Remember we live in the real world.
“Man wants to be rich. Rich man wants to be king. A king isn’t satisfied ti’ll he rules everything.” ~ Bruce Springsteen
😂 Old thoughts of indépendance in a global world are we all independent no we are a net of people that have built codependency
absurd perspective in 2023
go ahead and screw yourself though
@@BlitzMekanikayep, it’s called greed.
To many ADS
Preferred Time Team when it was all Anglo Saxon.
Jingo-istic much?
problem is that the richness of history is not purely centred around the Anglos.. there's a lot more to the world to be seen and discovered with the associated amazing cultures.
WAR AFTER WAR , AFTER WAR , AFTER WAR, AFTER WAR,,, AND SO IT GOES ON.... HOOMANS NEVER STOP....2024. I DON'T GET IT, NEVER WILL. WAR, MONEY, RELIGION. Hate it
England did what they did.
Dung? Castle of shite?
walkertongdee, "Dung? Castle of shite?"
I hope that one day it gets fully excavated. And preseved as an important part of ireland.