Affable Husband Degraded and Killed by Wife Enmeshed with Parents | Kathleen Dorsett Case Analysis
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- čas přidán 26. 04. 2024
- This video answers the question: Can I analyze case of Kathleen Dorsett?
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Poor Steven getting himself involved with a bunch of psychopaths .
A bunch of blank holes
No mention of what happened to the young daughter, poor child, what a legacy.
@@margaretr5701 I think he said Stevens mother got custody. that's why they were trying to hire a hitman.
@@jinxed_jinxed_3443 Yes, thankfully, Elizabeth being raised by her paternal grandmother, was the only silver lining in this sad story. Hopefully none of the murdering clan will ever cross her path.
Yeah that happens when you move to New Jersey
They raised her to be a monster because they are monsters themselves.
Word
The real monster is New Jersey.
@@darkfate666😂
Narcissismen
This man’s cold sarcasm kills me 💀
“She got 58 years, if that wasn’t bad enough- she lost her teaching license.” 🤣😂
So…..she can’t teach other inmates how to get away with MURDER? Oh, NOOOOOOO!!
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😂😂🎉❤
Yeah, we all watched the video too.
What an awful family.
Read the book The Narcissistic Family.
textbook narcissistic family, when you are an outsider, it is an unending version of meet the Fokkers.
They're 'blankholes'.
So similar to the Adelson’s approach, sans two levels of conspirators
@@RaoulThomas007The main similarities are that the mother is a malignant narcissist who transmits her pathology to her daughter; and they use the males to do the dirty work against other males. The remarkable dissimilarity is that in this case, the slain father’s daughter won freedom through her father’s murder. To the contrary, Dan Markel’s children were successfully abducted and turned over to the queen narcissist.
Oh no! When she gets out, she won't be able to teach.
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Well like any other Teacher.......Just Copy&Paste. Zero Education involved
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@@statementleaver8095 I've had awesome teachers my whole life. Then again, I'm not an American.
You mean a professional propaganda and dei propogator.
The whole family was evil. None of them were fit to raise Elizabeth. Poor Steven didn’t stand a chance.
Always with the NJ jokes 😂
always with the scenarios
@@dianevanderlinden3480 ???
I've never been there.. is it really that bad? Lol
I love his dry sense of humor while keeping his serious persona.
I find the NJ jokes tedious. I've been there once or twice (as a child fifty years ago)
“Consuming refrigerant to cool off…permanently.” That’s sooo witty!
Received 58 yrs. if that wasn't bad enough, her teaching certiftcate, license was revoked.
On Fridays Dr grande does a standup routine at the local psych hospital for the patients on suicide watch.
@@williammcneill2753 damn I missed it!
@@natalieperez2666ha ha, I loved that one too!
What a horrible family that Steven got into. Poor him.
Poor Elizabeth.
@@rikkitikkitavi997 She's safe now. She's living with his mother. I doubt that the ex-jailbird even has visitation rights.
Totally.
@@rikkitikkitavi997Elizabeth is alive though. Why poor Elizabeth? Her father was brutally murdered, not her. Misplaced sympathy is mislaced
@@troy3456789 I’m only saying she will be living her life with the knowledge of what her own mother did.
Nothing better than Dr. Grande's bloopers!
Except for his NJ jokes!😅
Yeah I woulda had some difficulty with that line too lol...
I like his deadpan jokes, sometimes he goes overboard with puns though
@@NondescriptMammal Well that's mostly for those of us on the spectrum who find some sort of psychological comfort in the Doc's using these conditioned reflex ploys, the gag of half a dozen or more words beginning with the same letter is another one... Jesus Christ I think maybe I've been watching this guy too long lol.......
@@micnorton9487 For sure, I also find his approach and demeanor comforting. It is funny how he can be so rational and level headed and emotionally neutral in his analysis, such that when he inserts those little asides, they can catch you totally off guard. 😸
@@NondescriptMammal Oh yeah I'm not dogging the Doc, I disagree with him sometimes but there was only one video that I put a thumbs down on and that was his video about Anne Heche... That was right after her drunken car accident and the Doc just roasted her, and then she died the next day and the Doc immediately pulled the video...
There's an old saying about in laws that goes like: never let them live close enough that they can visit you in their sandals and never far enough that they visit with suitcases.
Do NOT answer the DOOR!!!
I never heard that, but that's a Good One.
When your psychopath is also a snotty child….
The irrationallity of that family is hard to comprehend.....
No morals. I wonder what their religious views were.
Narcissists are often delusional.
Poor man didn’t stand a chance😢.
Moved in across the street from her parents?? WORSE than Ray Barone!
How did that old guy, her dad, take him out? I don't understand
@@traybern I know😟
I feel so sorry for Stephen. May he rest in peace.
It amazes me when Dr. G reads off the personality “flaws” of the guilty; the “laundry list” of horrible traits is always the same! What a world!!!
Sometimes he grades them on the 5 factor scales.
They are so predictable🙄
I think OJ got a couple more than the typical list, though.
This was a longer list tham most. This was everything possible.
@@marilynmccormick1658 There's basically 3 kinds of comments below any video. Ones that criticize the video maker or the video maker's character (ad hominem) , like this one.
Number two is those comments that praise the maker of the video, or make a kind joke about the video maker; and the last kind of comments actually comment on the content of the video. The very last one, to me, are the best most meaningful comments. The rest aren't really that helpful in my opinion.
A person can be a good person, and also make lousy boring content. They can be a crappy person irl, and make interesting content. Who makes the video really doesn't matter a whole lot in my opinion.
Kathleen and her mother Leslie both look crazy. They have crazy expressions on their faces.
Although 'crazy' is not in the DSM-5, it should be.
@@venderstrat Also that "crazy" seems to be heritable.
@@BB-gr9hqpassed on through habits?
@@deanpd3402 through abuse and possibly something neurological in nature.
To be fair, sometimes the camera catches you at an inopportune moment, like when you're awake... or alive.
What an awful horrible family!! Elizabeth is better off not being raised by them and I hope she’s doing okay.
It was mentioned in another comment, Elizabeth lives with Stevens mother.
I hope they left NJ.
"Like many people who move to New Yersey, Stephen may have had a sense that he'd never leave the state alive". Poor Stephen, I wish he'd never gone there. Hope Elizabeth is OK.
I figure Elizabeth is in her late teens by now.
I hope that she is ok too and that her maternal Grandmother is kept away from her.
No!!! Not the teaching certificate!!! 😮
Wonder if she’ll get fired 🤣 that’s a little teacher humour there 🤨
This one pisses me off. That poor guy didn’t deserve that.
I have a theory Dr Grande secretly lives in NJ
i've suspected such myself. 😂
He probably got pulled over by the cops once in NJ .
He lives in Delaware, I think? So I imagine he has been there many times.
No he lives in Delaware, which is worse lol
NJ envy
These people that view a child as a possession are just crazy. Keeping s child from one parent is despicable. I understand if said parent may be dangerous or irresponsible. But not a loving parent.
These people ruined six lives and for what?
Child is probably thriving with her grandmother. I hope she can live a full wonderful life.
I guess my life hasn't been so bad. I've never had to live in New Jersey.
Worked there for a month. It was the longest year of my life.
This was my life with my ex and her lonely mother. I wasn't allowed to touch my infant son, and was blamed after I finally stopped begging. I'm alive, but I was ruined
Similar in my life. Was not allowed to touch my baby son. My ex wife has OCD and GAD. She's a very self destructive and self focused woman. Has spent her whole life doped up on prescriptions.
Damn bro, I’d never let a chick think the thought to do some dumb shyt like that too me
They both sound like narcissists. Read up on it so you can avoid these toxic people in the future.
It’s interesting what enmeshment and emotional incest can do to children and families. Without external intervention it can cause life long issues for the victim
narcissistic abuse
@@kevinhornbucklethank you! Emotional investment in a healthy family isn’t a problem. It’s the narcissist who learns to hone their skills by practicing on their family. Or just discarding their “perfect family”all together when they get any sense they might feel something real. Why there’s so many single parents.
The victim being her husband. F her.
It’s a major red flag never to ignore. This is the same theme with Dan Markle vs the Adelsons’.
Living Hell is DSM V995.51 and AB-PA (Attachment Based Parental Alienation)
It's scary this woman was a kindergarten teacher. I think the state needs to overhaul the requirements and screening criteria for potential teachers.
My ex wife is an early childhood educator working under the child protection banner. THAT is scary.
Miss Smith, do you think, if you got married, you could kill your husband, and his mother?
No.
You’re hired.
Nothing would have been picked up.
What's sad, is that no-one realises just how bad these kinds if situations are until it's too late.
would you want a thing like Kathleen teaching your kids?
@@adotintheshark4848 ?
@@over-comer Kathleen was a kindergarten teacher..all I can say is "poor little kids".
@@adotintheshark4848 she probably wasn't nasty to them, but likely lacked the empathy to be understanding.
@@adotintheshark4848 I believe it was her selfishness, and being a victim in her own mind, that led to how she treated her husband.
The gag reel at the end underscores the absolute nincompoopery of that family
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The gag reel at the end was really funny, and there was nothing funny about the family. ‘Nincompoopery’ is putting it way too kindly, in my opinion
@@ltraina3353 language softened to avoid comment getting banned.
There's one thing I noticed. Criminals must be the most optimistic people on the planet to think they can do this and get away with it. Or maybe they're just stupid.
I can't get over how they can't figure that in this day and age, somewhere along the line they are going to be filmed.
@@deanpd3402 👍
@@deanpd3402 What percentage of murders get solved??
The FBI keeps track of such things.
I will wait while you research that.
You know sometimes criminal working with spirits, and usually have ritual done and may cause someone else to take the fall
He never did have a chance with that narcissist. When they keep getting away with bad deeds it gives them a feeling of invincibility. Great breakdown again. Thanks Dr G😊💛💛
Her mother looks absolutely insane. Those eyes!!!
The stoic unflappable facade has slipped with those absolutely stellar blankhole bloopers - Dr Grande: he’s just like us!
"there were no indication that disaster would strike". Did anyone look into that mom's eyes? If I saw that beast once I would run for the hills.
There are a lot of narcissists walking around … scary … poor Steven. It is also scary to think Kathleen was teaching little kids.
I was once married to a narcissist sociopath like this for way too long.
I escaped the evil mean insanity.
Never been to NJ, but Dr. Grande sure makes it seem to be a real blank hole.
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People need to contemplate the fact that they aren't just marrying a person. They're marrying another family.
Uh.. I wouldn't go that far
@@Anglisc1682 As long as you're married to that person. Have children with that person, you will always have grandparents in your lives. Aunt's, uncle's any of which could be a Wack job, so yes, if you're going to marry somebody unless you plan on never seeing his family again, whatsoever, and he plans on having no interactions with them, You are marrying a family..
Indeed you are marrying the family.
this is never so true as when you marry a Filipina.
I'm going to coin you as the dead pan doctor. Your comedic slights are awesome.
Her parents is so evil and bad minded they kill this guy for no reason because they wanted his daughter all for themselves
The relationship with her parents reminds me of Wendi Adelson and her Mom. 🙄
Me too! I even mentioned it in one of the comments on here.
The like button is clicked even before the video starts, thank you, Dr. Grande!
Yep, I do the same. So far the only thumbs up I had to retract was his video on Russel Brand. He came across as heavily biased & I just don't think he treated him fairly. I was actually disappointed with Dr. G on that one. Other than that though, I find him informative & witty which keeps me coming back.
Total disregard for that poor little girl.
Have never understood the “decorating with safety cones” aesthetic.
I thought it was bad ass… when I was 13
@@gwendolynvassar5340😂
I first heard of this case on Dateline(I think? May have been 48 Hours or 20/20). What blew my mind was that the custody agreement had a part that said(paraphrasing)”Mother will provide food while the child is with her father.” Kathleen didn’t even trust him to feed her properly. 🙄
It was "Dateline: A Family Affair."
It's about control.
@@Jeanne90275Thank you!
ETA: I love the outtakes at the end!
@@smittykinsHe shows very poor taste in laughing about sadistic abuse, especially given that it resulted in murder.
@@kevinhornbucklehonestly he’s a Blankhole! I watch him because I think he’s a dr who himself is somewhere on the spectrum. I wouldn’t be shocked if that’s the case. Likewise his humor isn’t what I find entertaining about his channel. The trained speech inflections helps me relax. Thanks to all the social programming 😅lol I don’t like him because I understand it’s a projection who knows what he’s actually like. But I know this isn’t it if I have the misfortune of having a therapist like him I play along but get absolutely no where with their treatment they don’t care it’s an act they’re playing a role and it shows.
I was happy to see you laughing. You are always so serious in your videos. Thanks for sharing those clips at the end with us.
Poor New Jersey...catching strays from Dr. Grande.
Love the blooper reel! 😁 So good to see you giggling, Dr Grande! Thanks for all the hard work you do to keep us all entertained!
For such a serious topic and one that i've had lived experience, there is absolutely nothing funny about the topic at all. This analsys by Dr Grande is spot on and although he is humorous, I cannot laugh at the content. Have a look at AB-PA and DSM V995.51 and understand the pain that individuals and families go through and wish it upon no one.
Prison wasent as pleasent as she imagined
The outtakes at the end are priceless. I guffaw and snort, I giggle so hard. Thanks
Dr Grande! I loved the out takes! I've never seen this type of footage before, and I've been watching you for years and years. I often wonder what happens behind the scenes....so today was a bonus! 😂
It's always a treat when Dr Grande adds the bloopers. 😂
There are a lot of cases I listen to in which a divorcing couple wants to live in separate states but they run afoul of either state law or an unreasonable attitude by one or both parents. Conflict over this issue is wholly unnecessary, provided that both parents behave like adults and both have the best interests of their child at heart.
I was divorced in the 1970s. My ex left with our daughter to another state a thousand miles away. We arranged to have joint legal custody, and a cooperative arrangement for physical custody. Our daughter lived with her mother during the school year, and visited me at other times. It is not difficult for children to fly alone under the supervision of airline flight attendants. When apart, we stayed in touch by mail and telephone. Now she is fully grown and close to both of her parents.
Laws that interfere with where the parents choose to live don't make any sense at all and should be repealed. Joint legal custody should be the norm, unless there is a good reason to drny one parent custody. Primary physical custody should be such that continuity in school is maintained as much as is practical. Too much traveling during the school year conflicts with that.
Just be civilized! Act like adults and cooperate in the rearing of children, despite personal differences.
Very well-stated. I completely agree
My daughter's divorce decree stated that she could not move out of state until her children reached age 18. I couldn't believe she agreed to that. Plus, their father rarely sees them, grumbles about child support, and is disinterested in their lives. Yet, he didn't want them moving away.
Poor Elizabeth would never have been able to break free from her psychopathic mother and grandparents. It's heartbreaking that she had to grow up without her dad but at least she could grow up free. Imagine being raised by Kathleen, what a nightmare!
She was going to be home schooled and not have her own friends. Just mom. I know a situation like that right now.
I wonder if post partum psychosis played a part in all this. Kathleen's behaviour changing after birth to extremely controlling and suspicious of the father and wanting to cut him out completely seems consistent with ppp. I wonder if that was the case and she had been diagnosed and treated maybe the outcome wouldn't have been so catastrophic. Of course ppp doesn't excuse murder and she is where she should be.
I was thinking the exact same thing!
Only thing though, that doesn’t explain her father being willing to commit murder. HE wasn’t pregnant.
And it doesn’t explain her mother being willing to hire a hitman later either.
@@Alden_Indoway Oh the family dynamic was there alright but maybe ppp was the trigger for that horrible thing to happen when it did.
I'm living for the outtakes at the end!
Love the bloopers! Keep them coming 🥳 It’s always nice to see you smile/laugh every now and then 😊
“Blankhole” is my new favorite insult.
Dr. G,
Thank you for covering this case. Poor Steven really got involved with a psychopathic family. My heart goes out to his daughter. 🙏🏻
** I wish you’d cover the case of Glenn Sullivan Senior, who was sentenced April 17, 2024 to 50 years in prison and a physical castration on him. The judges don’t play in Louisiana! **
Wow, some similarities with this story and my marriage. When my son was born my wife would not allow me to touch him, and I was most certainly made to feel dangerous.
Wow the whole family is batsht crazy and the pictures of them just add to it. Theyre right out of Stephen King novel.
The "blankhole" outtakes 😂 had me rolling haha
My best friend lives next to her in-laws and they are super manipulative, but her husband and her stand up to them.
Her husband is dead.
Excuse me but Leslie's expression is unsettling.
She looks enraged.
Yeah, getting caught can do that to a psychopath.
I like the bloopers at the end! Takes some of the edge off. I get mad at these monsters, so laughing before moving on helps. Kinda' like the "Bad Seed" ending (original version).
I think this raises an interesting point, we often become the things we were raised to be making it seem like it was destined for us to get to the life we have simpky because of the parents we got and It is a hard question to answer if anyone can not become a monster if they are raised to be a monster
I am always here for Dr. Grande's consistent character development in his hatred for New Jersey.
The Garbage State.
AS does the rest of America.
@@sludge8506 lol I'm from a very poor southern state so I can't hate too much. 😅
They were supposed go to Fla., which isn't any less of a joke.
What a truly awful family! There must have been some red-flags before their poor daughter was born!
The parents maintained control of Kathleen, then she repeated the cycle with Elizabeth. Totally messed up.
Evil in her eyes 😈 👁 👀 😳
Hope the little girl is happy and safe with her grandmother.
"For this cause shall a man/woman leave their father and mother and shall cleave to their spouse and the two shall become one flesh."
With all these cases of people killing the other parent for custody, how do they think THEY are going to get custody? Or that their children are going to be endeared to them?
They have a fantasy that they are always on the right side of things most probably. If they thought it more, we would be in a perfect society.
That’s why it’s called insanity!
I just want Dr. Grande to diagnose why people live in New Jersey.
And NOT in the Bronx????
Its amazing how sobering prison is to no access to hair dye and make-up. I wonder what people look like to no access to botox and fillers.
I thought I was the only one who has been wondering about that exact same thing. Can you imagine the sight of ppl in their natural appearance state?
Just have a look at Lori Vallow-Daybell; she's aged 30 years since 2019 without access to botox & hair dye...
I was going to ask a girl out but she showed up with no makeup.
I didn’t even recognize her!! 😂
I dodged a bullet. 😅
I’m afraid to see what Todd Chrisley will look like.
@@Charlotte_2648 Todd and Amy Schumer are the same person.
Multiple personalities.
5:45 - it is said that Lelsie was quite the looker in her younger years...
The thought of this woman being a Kindergarten teacher is argggghhhhhh
She was my kindergarten teacher. She was really nice. This is an unfair portrait of her.
Plotting to kill twice and the first one worked is unfair?
@@williammcneill2753 I'm happy that she was a good teacher and that you had a good Kindergarten experience. But that just shows she was in control of her behavior.
Why'd that whole family think this was ok to murder that poor guy. 😮😢
Again…that’s why it’s called insanity
Man I loved the bloopers at the end. I'm somewhat relieved to know that Dr. Grande is laughing just as much as I am at his deadpan delivery. Another great video Doc
The poor child
OMG, the bloopers at the end! 😂 I KNEW you'd have a nice smile! 😁
Thanks for sharing the outtakes at the end, that was fun :D
Lolol! The outtakes and Dr. Grande's laugh/smile at the end made my day. 🙃
Love the outtake Dr Grande! It was probably New Jersey that made her that way.
Good morning from Australia.
The thumbnail of her on this video told me everything I didn't want to know about this woman.
The close-up of the mother also screams loudly. Lots of red flags around this despicable family
Dr. Grande’s “only speculating about what could be happening…” followed by the quick shifty eyes kills me every time 😂.
The pictures are killing me! Also, Dr Grande trying to keep his perfect expression while reading a ridiculous message to the poor husband from that crazy wife.
Dealing with this in my ex wifes narcissistic family system (apart from the death, plenty of destruction and emotional incest). The psychopathic borderline behaviours of the grandmother are unbelievable and have caused a triple cross generational alliance, affecting my two daughters severely. Wish it upon no one, careful who you meet and decide to have kids with, in the beginning, it does seem like perfection, which is the first red flag.
The outtakes at the end had me in tears 😂 I’ve often wondered how you keep a straight face with some of these cases. That family were evil. They reminded me of my ex-parents-in-law. They were always over involved and critical of me especially. They went so far as to report me to DOCS (I live in Australia) because they thought I was giving our baby boy “temper drops”. The drops were actually baby paracetamol prescribed by the doctor. The brand name was Tempra Drops. The thought plan was for them to get custody of their grandson. They actually thought he was theirs. As in, what was their son’s was theirs too. DOCS were very apologetic after meeting us and our baby and obviously dropped the case. We banned them from our lives after that.
Your description of Kathleen's personality pathology is probably the best one you have done yet. Agree wholeheartedly.
What a horrid family.
'According to OED, horrid and horrible were originally almost synonymous, but in modern use horrid is somewhat less strong and tending towards the "offensive, disagreeable" sense.'
VERY disturbing events oddly soothing the way Dr Grande tells it!❤t/y
Your New Jersey comments alway crack me up! Boy, what a family :-(
Dr. Grande-Do you think Kathleen was born like that or made? I hope for the best for the child.
Yes, what a sad legacy left to the young daughter.
I read her paternal grandmother raised her, so hopefully Elizabeth inherits the good nature of her dad's side of the family.
Thanks, Dr. Grande. I really love the outtakes! I would love an entire video of them. Have a great weekend! Outtakes greatest hits, anyone?
Taco Bell Grande, I like the takeouts!
Love the comedic relief.
The bloopers and the lesson. Family dynamics. Check.
Love the ending, laughing with you, Dr. Grande 😅😅
The end of this video made my day! 😂 Dr. Grande, you never fail
It's Horrifying to me when a family plots, and Murders an Innocent Person!
Your humor is so cool.