The Unbuilt Monuments of New York City
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- čas přidán 22. 05. 2024
- From a colossal Gothic monument to George Washington to a Native American Memorial rivalling the Statue of Liberty, New York City's skyline could have looked very different. This video reveals the stories behind bold and ambitious monuments that were planned but never built.
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I wish that a CGI rendering of modern New York City would be made showing what it would look like if monuments and buildings that were never made would look if they were made.
Could be done. Probably needs to be a simulator.
czcams.com/video/VAX1goe6ETU/video.htmlsi=7w8CHkDbnb0mZA3I Lewis Garrison’s channel does that sort of thing
@@spaceengineeringempire4086not even that ,just generate it with Mid journey or any other AI video and image generators.
I know I keep saying this but I just LOVE the aesthetics of the channel. The soothing voice, the nice music, the beautiful images. Every video you make is a work of art and makes me believe in humanity a bit more. Keep it up.
Love the channel as well but “makes me believe in humanity a bit more” I think that is a silly notion human nature is inherently flawed and corrupted
Is this lemminos voice
I feel the same way
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looking at these designs it is so easy to see how these people were filled with vigor and hope for the future, they wanted to build something beautiful and truly commemorate what we had gone through as a people. truly even the greatest of our current monuments pale in comparison to the worst they had built
Meanwhile the current monument: some devil statue in the new york courthouse
I absolutely adore this series. Love the amazing work you do, it is much appreciated!
Agreed, every video is so endlessly fascinating and of such high quality no less
How much work goes into a video about things that were never built ?
a rifle range in a monument to the dead of WW1 is the most insane thing Ive ever heard and is something that would only be thought of in America
idk seems like something most Western countries could've thought of before WW2.
@@johnperic6860I agree with this statement more. This was before Columbine and all the mass shootings in the U.S. Most Americans STILL love guns even after that, so it doesn't seem odd at all that Americans in 192x thought a rifle range for slain soldiers was acceptable
sounds like a great idea
I don't see why it would be insane. Hell, many veterans today use recreational shooting as a form of therapy.
I really like the Native American monument. Would like to see it built eventually though maybe in a better location like Washington DC.
No, build it on native American land and let them benefit from it. Right next to one of their tax free gambling casinos !
It's a statue of a genocidal land thief (ethnoterritorialist). It's like putting up a statue of Hitler because Germans became a minority.
David you are more than welcome to return to europe or whatever whiskey tango hole your rat fam came from.
Natives can build whatever they want on their land and tax whatever they want. It's their land.
@@davidkamenits all their land
@@toadguy7689 I didn’t know Native Americans were one big giant tribe….
Great video. Are there any unbuilt monuments for Boston? It'd be interesting to have a video on it, due to its pivotal role in the Revolutionary War.
That's a good idea for him to do. Can't wait for that and also Richmond Virginia
He should really make a big series out of this w other cities like Chicago, London, Portland and others
I don't know off the top of my head, but there's definitely potential to make more videos like this in the future!
@@kingsandthings Thanks for the response. I think culturally and historically (though not economically), Boston is the second most significant city in the US. It would be very interesting if you make a video like this one, on Boston!
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Another legendary video
It's too bad these monuments weren't built, NYC is ok but it would be so much nicer if they had been completed
Superb content every time, thank you sir.
Amazing as always!
You might like the story of the war memorial in Melbourne, Australia. They originally planned a celebration of victory (like an arch) but the public feeling about the war was that to many lives were lost for it to be appropriate to celebrate. So instead, the design was based (among other things) on the Mausoleum of Halicarnassus. There’s only one small gesture towards victory.
i've been there. It's VERY emotional and sobering.
Another sublime video
8:07: Robert Moses. The urban butcher.
Robert Moses would like the quote “in order to create, one must first destroy”, but liked the latter a bit too much
And we have so much garbage named after him. What a petty beaurocrat.
Hmm. Well ... he's often reviled. But he was hardly the only one to think in these terms from that era.
I'm in favor of conservation except where it truly is impossible. However, modernity has always demanded more efficient cities and scale. Some of those old modernist architects and urban planners had better ideas for how to achieve that than others. Moses, to me, was mediocre.
One thing people often miss about this history is that a fair bit of the more awful and ugly modern "butchering" of the urban fabric from that era was guided more by politicians and others who did not place enough emphasis on aesthetics.
Jane Jacobs, the great savior of the small city street, was really just a conservative. She didn't ever really consider the possibility that a modernist city, if done well, could be spectacular. The human-scale urban environment has become fetishized. But if you lived in any of the ancient civilizations - say Rome - the most impressive architecture was designed to make you feel small - just as some great modernist architecture does.
@@ems4884 The human scale environment is valued because people are humans. The modernist city is for the achitects, not the the people. That's a ridiculous view of Jane Jacobs, or at least one that robs the term "conservative" of any moral value. Urban destruction was the status quo, and she fought against it.
The issue with modernist architecture is the minimalist geometric fundementalism, not that it makes people feel small.
The "racist" bridges guy
Please make this a series.
I searched for the in-progress Native American statue honoring Crazy Horse and discovered that they've simply carved out a face in roughly 75 years. Odd. It's planned to be a statue the size of a small mountain.
I went there with my family about 12 or 13 years ago. It looks identical today as it did then. They sell it as "the red man's mount rushmore", but it's nothing more than a tourist trap to fill the pockets of one family.
All of Mount Rushmore could fit in the face though. It's disappointing they aren't making progress.
I actually looked this up after commenting and the face was just finished in 98, with work still being actively done on the rest.
It was supposed to take less than ten years but weather conditions on the mountain make it so they can only work a few months of the year and there's way, way, more iron content and fissures in the rocks then projected.
They still work on it with the tourism money though, and it's all done with explosives 🧨 so there's financial incentive for them to keep at it.
(They can only work on it when weather is good, and that's when the tourists are going to be there to see the big booms.)
They say that by the year 2035 the arm, hairline, hand, shoulder and the top part of the horse's head will be finished - but they keep having to deviate from the original plan because of problems with the rock, so I'd say it's more reasonable they will get his pointing finger done by then.
It's reasonable to see how slow its going and think it's not going at all, but as long as the crash keeps flowing and they can use the dynamite carving as a way to encourage tourism it's on track to be done long after we are all dead. I'd guess 2560. But I'm an eternal optimist, lol
As far as rock-cut monumental sculpture goes, it's not bad. A little obvious in it's politics, perhaps. Maybe a touch too much. But ... well ... Does anyone blame them?
I do wish the state of South Dakota would just jump in and fund the project to get it completed already. They want it to be funded by popular donations and that sounds great on paper, but at a certain point you do have to be practical when trying to finish such a grand project. And obviously South Dakota would stand to benefit from its completion in tourism revenue so they could thank the Sioux/Dakota people in advance.
The reason why it was never completed is the tribe refuses to accept federal funding. They will not take money from the government.
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Great video
Your videos are a pure work of art, everything goes together seamlessly and inspired me to bring this kind of energy into projects for the art school I'm attending to
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Hey, I’m from Buenos Aires and I think I’d be interesting if you made a video about all the demolished buildings, palaces, and monuments of Buenos Aires and also talk about the ones still standing.
I'm curious .. why were they demolished? South America is the one continent that I've never really spent time getting to know.
@@ems4884 Argentina 100 years ago was one of the richest countries on earth and Buenos Aires was held to the same standard as Paris. Over those 100 years, there have been several economic highs and several economic lows. This lead to a large amount of the classical buildings being demolished and replaced with higher capacity buildings (especially in the 60’s) or several ornate buildings having parts of their facade removed since it was expensive to maintain. Over the past couple of years, however, there have been several efforts to restore some of the stripped buildings to their former glory and you can still find beautiful pieces of architecture in Buenos Aires and other cities across Argentina.
@@ems4884 and if you want to learn a bit more about Buenos Aires I recommend checking out the neighborhoods of Retiro, Recoleta, Monserrat, Bajo San Isidro, Tigre, San Telmo, and La Boca on google or google earth.
@@Lontonce_how's Argentina doing in 2023?
@@zivmontenegro8303 like shit
1999 1 Argentinian Peso was worth 1 US dollar. Beginning of 2023 1 US dollar was worth 400 pesos. November 29 2023 1 US dollar is worth 800. Besides this, political corruption, assassination, and fraud have all been regular headlines. All thanks to Peronist and Kitchenerist.
However, there’s hope now since in a couple months it’ll be the elections and currently it looks like either one of the two “good” candidates (Patrica Bullrich or Javier Milei) are going to win (preferably Bullrich but most likely Milei).
Still, my country is beautiful and no matter how many rough patches we go through, that won’t ever change.
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I just found your channel and this is my first video… coming from an indigenous American family heritage, thank you for this. I swear, I’m 51yo and I’m still learning so much 🙏🏽
A native monument done in the a mayan-fusion neoclassical style. Nice.
Just no connection to North American natives
This was really interesting!
This channel is so awesome. It has such an other-worldly, elegant, and mystical vibe to it.
I took my time watching this video, as i let it sit in my watch later playlist for a while. Fantastic as always.
I would love to see such an awesome tribute built to the native inhabitants of this land, but with their guidance and blessing.
The problem was that it was built like a monument to a people that no longer live there, this is a problem with a lot of indian representation like with indian football names. Like, they are still here.
You know they are many ethnic groups with vastly different cultures
No
I think the Native American monument would’ve been interesting
Yeah, but then again if I was driven out of my home only for my pursuers to make a statue of me in their style, I’d also find it a little self-righteous, so I see where the opposition is coming from.
Do one of these for Paris!!
Monument Mythos Season 4 looks promising
you pick the most interesting things I must say.
2:34 the illustration at this point is a “true crime” engraving of a pickpocket
plying his trade.
Moses, parting the city for decades. (Robert I mean)
Chauncey (Canowicakte) Yellow Robe summed up the final monument best, methinks.
it would also not have been able to survive the above Moses' (how shall I put it?)
"zeal" for reshaping particular neighborhoods.
It is depending on which part of NY we are living. I know some close friends. Some regretted that they didn't move on the other side of NY much much sooner
Hate living in New York, love architecture. I kinda broke even.
This, but Fi Di for me
same for Chicago except I don't hate living here, it's just frustrating sometimes 😂
Damn, same thing in Buenos Aires
The chaos compliments the beauty
Let’s swap! I live in Edinburgh, Scotland. Gorgeous, ancient architecture but pretty boring city!
@@leeriches8841 accepted!
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Grants Tomb and Soldiers and Dailors Monument..I just love Riverside Park.
4:40 I like this design
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The George Washington tower actually looks really beautiful from the inside from that concept art.
It's a shame some of those people protested. If not as a memorial for George Washington, they should have built it even just for it's nobleness!
15:38 free gift! Ha! That’s a good one
Do one for London
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Really interesting. I'm confused though why there was so much Egyptian revivalist influence. What does Egypt have to do with America or George Washington? If a gothic steeple doesn't fit, then what makes a Pharaoh's obelisk so much better?
I looked it up and apparently it has something to do with a desire to connect America with the oldest great civilizations and express an intention of making a similar eternal mark on history. Which makes sense since Egypt is far far older than christianity or the Roman Empire. Still, the amount of focus on Egypt is surprising, compared to in the modern day when people hardly bring up Egypt at all except in the context a few movie franchises.
Masonry
look up the iconography of free- masonry and you will find that especially Washington DC is full of it...and where do you think the eye in the pyramid on your bank notes comes from?
Great use of the American quartet by Dvorák
They need to double the cost of the ferry to the statue of liberty and use the cash to fix the torch arm so that people can go up there again. It brings in enough tourism, it's worth the investment.
Isn't the cost fairly high already? There might be other revenue streams. But yes, conservation is key.
Hate to break it to you but the general public has NEVER been allowed into the torch and due to the structural integrity of the statue they probably won’t.
The arm's had a design flaw since the day it was assembled. According to everything I've read a full fix would require removing the entire arm and repositioning it.
WOW
Weird but this vidéo didnt show up in my CZcams feed
Its crazy how the egyptians still are the biggest inspiration
I thought that the statue of liberty was given to us by france?
Architecture is like old war. You make sacrifices, it costs much, it controversial, then people are proud for it, then its forgotten and ultimately nobody gives a shit.
It seems that the idea of building a grand monument was preferable to actually building one. No doubt that avenue was more amicable to shenanigans and chicanery than spending any funds raised on construction.
there is a wwI memorial on madison sq and it is the site for veterans day commemorations
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Lemino?
Even though we did progress, we shall not vanish... Waw
@5:48 looks like they're holding up AKs at Washington's monument lol
A rifle range, at a war memorial? Brilliant.
Lemmino??
Well, time to get on Minecraft and build these
That national American Indian memorial would have been gorgeous to be honest
.... its better than the other ideas. But it's politics and style are a weird mismatch. And those racial politics are VERY much of that era. It would be the subject of heavy criticism in the contemporary era - and probably discussed routinely in American history classrooms as a key example of how screwy our old ideas about Native Americans really were. And rightly so.
But on purely aesthetic grounds ... its better than the others mentioned here and a fair chunk of the monuments that did get built in that era.
You gotta warn us when you're about to bring up Robert Moses! I almost threw up
You got something wrong, this is the mirror dimension of new york after you mess with a special tree
I thought the Native American Memorial was cool until I remembered that it's a damn memorial for people still living and progressing as a diverse and strong identity.
It's a statue of a genocidal land thief (ethnoterritorialist). It's like putting up a statue of Hitler because Germans became a minority.
Yeah that’s what I thought as I’ve gotten older it’s a nice idea but a museum is a better resource for us to learn about many tribal cultures and traditions of the Americas which are still here.
I can't think anything more the antithesis of George Washington or any other Founding Father than gothic architecture.
Why?
Explain
Good. To hell with those masonic scumbags
Maybe, but that's in part because of the Beaux-Arts era and Colonial Revival surrounding monuments of that nature in the decades since. They wanted a monument, not a demonstration of the civic religion. As Gothic Revival is vastly better than the two styles it would have been spectacular.
@@lmvr127 I can't see men from the Enlightenment who wrote an independence declaration full of Enlightenment ideals for a country thousands of miles away from Europe identify with gothic architecture. Bu maybe that's just me.
too much bass in the audio
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*Damn son, where'd you find THAT?*
I sure hope you pay you Ai narrator well. They need to feed their AI 👪 too!
Don't build that filthy obelisk!
America did end up getting a watergate so I guess that one was realized in another form 🤔
The Sphere atop the colonade represents the world yes indeed but moreso it represents world domination. With a statue of Washington on top of it. And do you have any idea why an egyptian obelisk for the same president? Is he a pharaoh XD
Lemmino..?
13:13 - -
The American Indians as a description is awkward…..the Mapmaker Amerigo Vespucci is credited here for the Name of America, and the word Indian derives from India. That said, the people here before the European and British were also a migration from what we know as Mongolia today. So if they did migrate over Barring Straight 15 thousand years ago, though they warred among their tribes, they had 14 thousand, six hundred years to themselves. That’s a pretty good Run I would say. I don’t know of any other Country who’s had that kind of blissful isolation than these first settlers. Also, the American Indians were mostly killed off by Small Pox, and the same with their cousins in South America. And another fact that isn’t ever mentioned. Christopher Columbus NEVER set foot in North America. He had absolutely nothing to do with the forming of the USA, nor ever influenced the Dutch and the British.
Don't care
>>> that's *"Bering Strait"*
New York today would be busy tearing down all these monuments if they had been built.
We have a Woke Sickness in NYC. You’re correct!
@@lisaroberts8556 They've been tearing things down since the 1950s, maybe even earlier. Look what they did to the former Penn Station back in 1962. Stupidity goes WAY beyond Woke.
@@Poisson4147 Harvard tore down the New York ritz hotel in midtown a month after they purchased it.
What about the Buddhist temple those guys in Times Square are always collecting for?😂
I find it kinda ironic to build a Monument of WW1 next to the tomb of Grant who really liked the german Empire and even talked with Bismark (for me best history Crossover)
These monuments would’ve took New York to a historic level that it just doesn’t have at the moment. New Yorks monuments are it’s buildings, infrastructure and the Statue of Liberty 😂
Can't wait till monument mythos uses this video tbh.
Love your videos and your voice which is very soothing. I was surprised by the ugliness of almost all the projects; on the other hand, considering these designs were produced during the second half of the XIX century, so rich in architectural abominations, their ugliness was something to be expected. The only exception to that display of bad taste is Stanford White's magnificent triumphal arch in Washington Square. Regards.
The architects and designers of the victorian era were just geniuses beyond anyone we have today. Art and imagination in civic structures really did seem to end after world war 2, because anything from the 50's onward is all brutalist square, utilitarian garbage.
Wait a minute… Washington… Monument… obelisk….
Well they were right about one thing, it is ugly, but we have it. A monument in Washington’s honor… and a secret tribute to Bill Clinton’s ego.
This story sounds nonsense, the first image looks original and it looks like they removed and sanitised the structure to its basic shape we have now, trying to hide the architectural history of the building
Indeed
The actual Washington monument in DC is perfect and matches who Washington was as he was a Freemason and masons use a lot of iconography from Ancient Egypt. On a side note, there is an actual real ancient Egyptian obelisk in Central Park in NYC called Cleopatra's Needle. It was commissioned by Thutmose III and the inscriptions date to Ramses II (aka Ramses the Great) who are the two greatest Pharaohs of the New Kingdom. Zahi Hawass (famed crook and charlatan) tried to say that the city doesn't take care of it very well (what does he want them to do, put it in a glass case?) and threatened to "take it back". Don't worry, all you have to do is pay him his bribe and he will shut up just like every other Arab official.
10:59 “Murica”
“Unbuilt”? More like documented and then destroyed. Can’t have extravagant old world architecture in your new world dystopia. ‘Leave some good ones, but destroy most so they don’t raise questions.’
I thought this as well. After looking at many of the 'before and after 'photos and drawings/paintings/renderings etc. and then comparing to old maps, one can see a lot that was once there and has since been 'unbuilt'.
And you have documented proof that these buildings actually existed?
Wow. Tens of millions of people have lived in NYC and not ONE of them ever noticed any of these buildings? Somebody must have used one hell of an MIB Neuralizer!
Yeah that first monument design looked like dog 💩
forgot to mention the Twin Towers
You mean the twin towers 2?
@@jtgd Electric boogaloo?
The Twin Towers? Their construction required the demolition of an entire neighborhood in Manhattan, and replaced the old Hudson Terminal with a much less-grander PATH station, plus their ugly design was only saved because they were two of them.
There is a reason why they destroyed our old architecture & prevent us from building current & future building in any form other than Brutalism.
Beautiful architecture breads pride & joy in one’s self, nation, people & history, you begin feeling hope & view each other as one group rather than the individual through history & hardships.
They don’t want us unified behind unbreakable bonds & don’t want proof of our existence, simple as.
Rodman Wanamaker sounds like a porn name.
I don’t dig the borderline deification of Washington
If you think White Americans would donate money to build an Indian / Native American museum at that time I’ll show you were you can get $1 billion
Thank goodness those abhorrent Washington monuments never got made, especially the globe one.
FYI, "American Indian" now refers to ethnic indians of the subcontintal variety living in the US. May cause confusion
It’s actually Indian-American. American Indian and Native American are used interchangeably.
'feet'? It is not the dark ages anymore, please use standard units of measurement only.
Crazy to note that many people were proud about the Indian genocide and saw it as a "victory"
The Roman’s conquered Gaul and celebrated it did they not?
*Turkey and Russia left the chat*
If they did build a monument to Washington it’d be removed nowadays…
Meh. NY loves pulling down statues so the “Indian” statue woulda been removed for being offensive. Lol
Meh, you make it seem like all statues have been ripped down for being offensive.
Columbus is still up in Columbus circle…
@@jtgd”NYC Council advances bid that could yank monuments honoring Washington, Jefferson, Columbus” that was from last Monday.
What’s controversial about that though? They might’ve renamed it but I don’t see why they would take it down.
@@jtgd Thomas Jefferson statue that sat inside City Hall for 187 years was removed.
In 2022, the statue of Theodore Roosevelt at the Museum of Natural History was taken off its pedestal out front.
@@crispusattucks8265 Don’t just read headlines, man. They’re misleading. It’s a bill that would require the removal of “works of art on city property that depict a person who owned enslaved people, directly benefited economically from slavery, or participated in systemic crimes against indigenous people and humanity.” The idea is that we should stop glorifying people that committed atrocities, whether or not they take it too far is up to interpretation.
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