DUAL WAN (Dual ISP) - UNIFI DREAM MACHINE PRO
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- čas přidán 3. 06. 2021
- In this video, a small demo of how we can setup the Unifi Dream Machine Pro to provide our business network with a dual WAN connection to the internet through a FAIL OVER hand off channel with even another technology (fiber - single-mode fiber - copper).
On this occasion we use the default configuration, Fail Over, through which the availability of internet output is guaranteed, should any of the 2 connections fail.
Remember that the UDM PRO has two WAN ports, one with RJ45 gigabit ethernet technology, and the other with an SFP + port available to connect fiber or rj45 in up to a 10 GbE link.
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Thank you for the thorough information.
Found it very helpful.
Great information! This is something that I’m in the process of doing for my business. You have a new sub. Looking forward for more great content from your channel.
can't wait
This was awesome thank you!
Thank you!!Helped me alot
Thanks for the information
Thank you so much for that info!
for years I couldn't figure how to change the spf port as primary. my home network thanks you
Ty for the video.
You are most welcome, hope it helped
@@TechnologyMoments it most definitely did!
Had all these issues, the UDM hang fixes after a hard power reset, soft-reboots are hit-miss in this case.
Switching the WAN's is needed when one of your WAN's need to hand off with FE rather than GbE/10GbE as the SFP+ port will not work with FE.
Hi, thanks for your coments, FE may be the only speed we left out of our tests and still widely used. Enriching experience.
I use port 10 (sfp) for my main isp and port 9 is my backup wan. on the front display I can not read any longer the internet bandwidth, since port 9 is always displayed.
We had the same erratic problem at first and was fixed with last update. However seems to be an On Off problem. Trying to replicate it again to see if we can advice you any further.
Awesome video. So helpful! Can you aggravate the isp from the same router, to these two ports using a module to use copper, like you do here? I have 1.5 g source but only through 1G ports on the router. If I aggravate I might be able to get what I pay for?
I assume you meant aggregation. Well that would be possible if from your gigabit router from your ISP it could give you different networks or VLANs so the UDM will not detect the incoming connections coming from the same "switch" as it will most probabbly detect them as spanning tree instead of aggregation.... it is a long shot. You might just ask the ISP to give you a 2.5 gbps ports router other wise you'll keep having the same trouble.
@@TechnologyMoments thank you for taking the time to help me. Was very helpful!
cool
I ahve a 10G switch that I use. It is linked to to the 10G LAN on the UDM Pro. I want to connect the WAN to the 10G WAN and not use any of the 1G ports on the UDM Pro. Would you recommend that or just use the original WAN 1G port?
Hello Jerry, as a matter of fact that is the perfect environment for the UDM PRO, so you cascade in 10 gbps to the next switch, and have 10 gbps WAN.
Hi. Very useful video. I have fiber into my house, do I need to still use the router provided by my isp or can I connect it directly to my udm Pro via sfp
Hi Hakan usually what the ISP does is provide you with a PPPoE connection to bridge you to their network and your UDM will handle everything else. Not that your are going to have much performance issues, but that has been our experience and what we have collected to be our clients'. Have a great day and thanks for watching.
@@TechnologyMoments hola algun email de contacto para cotizar una ayuda d instalacion?
you need to talk to your isp. sometimes they will let you use their router in bridge mode and not other. you need their modem/router in bridge mode.
The SFP is wan or lan. Ports 8,9,10,11 are all WAN optional
True. When that firmware was released it was a welcome update to it's functionality.
Why did you not / or can it? run hot hot load balanced with both links? And IF so is the routing dynamic as in NON service impacting?
Thanks very much!!!!!
No, UDM is still Failover Only. Sucks that UBNT took this long to get it working in the USG's but still screwed the pooch on their flagship...
Sad but true. Only failover. As we have seen unifi is stil improving.
thanks for all information :)
is there any solution to configure UDM LAN ports as WAN port instead of port no10 ?
Hello Piotr, unfortunally, no. N way of changing their intended use as you can for example with some routers with multiple LAN/WAN ports. Eg Omada Routers from TP Link
@@TechnologyMoments many thanks for your reply. Now i think i shall use omada to my projects (23 WiFi points in hospital + dual wan required, triple wan - good to have)
I just bought the SFP+ module for the udm pro, but how is it that the USG supports load balancing 2 WANs but the UDM Pro does not? I stopped using my USG because the cloud controller is garbage. I thought I was buying a better piece of hardware with the UDM Pro, capable of natively supporting load balancing out of the box.
Hello Rob, we do not only understand your disappointment, but also share your feelings. For example we have been using TP Link Omada Controller in some of our sites, and even the smallest routers support Load Balancing, fail safe and even USB for wireless WAN ISPs. We thought it was a matter of a couple versions of firmware, but... still waiting.
Great video thanks. What about the load balancing mode?
Not present yet, which is very sad.
We use Ubiquity Pro 4 which seems to load balance fine and do fail over (via ping timeouts) and fail back. What it doesn’t do is let us know when a link is down or recovered.
I read some reviews stating that load balancing is now available on the Dream Machine Pro due to a firmware update. I do not know how reliable the source is. Can anyone confirm this?
@@ds99 only for the SE version so far.
@@julienlefeuvre Thank you. That sucks.
Interesting. How does this work with incoming connections and port forwarding?
Hi, since a few firmware updates, when selecting port forwarding, you can select the WAN that is gonna forward requests inside your network or select "both" so service will continue to work when failover kicks in, and, a little different for VPNs for which you have to specify your WAN (public IP) from the drop down list. That may have been since "distributed" WAN balancing was implemented. Good luck with your projects.
@@TechnologyMoments Awesome! This is excellent!
This is good, but until they allow for easy setup of load balancing and policy based routing (to send a particular device or subnet out a specified WAN), this isn't ready for business use. It's a waste to have one ISP just sitting there on standby. You should be able to use both and take advantage of the increased bandwidth. Of course, if one of the ISPs goes down, then everything would fail over to the functional ISP.
The need for the policy based routing is because some secure connections fail when load balancing. The problem comes in if the destination switches you from server to server, but tries to maintain a single sign-on while doing so. When this happens, the load balancing can see these server changes as different streams and your public IP address keeps changing as the router sends the differing streams out alternating ISPs. Another way around this would be to only use the internal computer's IP address (i.e., the source IP) as the deciding factor for load balancing, but this isn't as efficient.
Couldn't agree more with you. Thanks for your comments and keep enriching everybody's experience.
wait, it doesn't has policy based routing?
@@dorfkind9825 It was just added in the last update. However, since it doesn't have load balancing, everything automatically goes out the primary ISP (assuming both are up) except for those that you PBR out the secondary ISP. Since they are finally making this improvement though, hopefully they'll continue and add the load balancing also.
@@wmcomprev PBR is now in it? Well then that's one step in the right direction, then at least I can use it exactly how I want. Load balancing would be a plus though. Currently using the TP Link ER 605 and want to replace it. Since I've split some client to wan1 and wan2 with PBR then the UDM Pro would now nearly be perfect.
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I dont plan to use it as redundancy , i simply want to assign certain machine to different ISP , can the hardware/software do that for me?
Not with the UDM Pro and at least with the GUI. You can do it with Omada's ER7206 ( amzn.to/4dnvp8U ) but setup can be a little tricky. I would make sure first it even works at all with TP-link
Compré el mismo módulo SFP, lo conecte con un cable Cat6 a módem que solo trabaja a Gigabit, configure el puerto para trabajar a 1Gigabit, y reinicie el UDM pero no funciona, el led no no hace blink de comunicación. Creo que el modulo sfp vino dañado.
Hola, puedes compartirnos el vínculo del mpodulo SFP?
@@TechnologyMoments Este fue el que compre, y según el proveedor solo puede usarse en 10GB y no a 1Gb.: www.amazon.com/-/es/dp/B01KFBFL16?psc=1&ref=ppx_yo2ov_dt_b_product_details
For me, I just manually select 10G and apply, then manually select 1G and apply. No reboot needed
Good to note! Thanks. We noticed that recently.
Have you been able to set up load balancing?
Hello Markus, not yet, for sure I will post a video once I do it! Thanks for reminding us to keep testing.
Load balancing is now available for the UDM SE and hopefully coming very soon for the UDM Pro (2.5.x firmware or newer).
Hi,It is possible to replace the hard disk drive (HDD) with SSD
Hello Fabrizio, yes, and you can experience much faster event searching and finding.
@@TechnologyMoments I always follow your videos thanks
is this supporting WAN bonding?
No it does not. It does give you load balancing but will not add bandwidth as bonding essentially does.
i have a UDM PRO and My ISP can Upgrade My Connection to 2.5Gb bat The SFP+ WAN2 Port is Only 1Gb or 10Gb why cant I negotiate to 2.5Gb or 5Gb
I think it depends on the sfp+ module you're using. Mine works with 2.5gbps. I had to try a few to find one that works. The whole restart to get it to work thing isn't necessary with the one I got either... It works fine on the auto negotiate setting.
This is the one I got: smile.amazon.com/dp/B078SNK1MY/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_glt_fabc_YZRM3FG0BYDAQ2ZP4MHG?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1
@@mrdylansays you meen that SFP+ Module is what that control the bandwith an wont leave the UDM Pro a choice bat to autonegotiat to 2.5gb
@@hofmaniz-4Z5HF I think you said ISP can provide 2.5gbps, but I assumed you meant using an sfp+ to copper (rj45) transceiver when you mentioned 1/2.5/5/10gbps link speeds. Not all sfp+ transceiver modules are compatible with the udm pro, and even the ones that are may not work in all link speeds they advertise. I tried 6 or 7 of them before landing on the mikrotik one that worked with 2.5gbps link speed (I have a Netgear cm2000 that has a 2.5gbps lan port). There are a few Reddit posts on other compatible sfp+ modules for the udm pro.
@@mrdylansays can you recommend to me a such transceiver
@@hofmaniz-4Z5HF mikrotik S+RJ10... It's linked in my original reply.
Inaccurate configuration as of April 2024.
Avoid all this complexity and errors and literally just plug the sfp module to port 10, connected to internet source. Then go to settings > internet (you can use the phone app too for this) and enable port 10 wlan. DO NOT change from auto negotiation to 1gb fdx. That is just stupid advice in general, with no real reason. If you want to use two wlans, simply add the other one on the same settings > internet screen. Absolutely DO NOT change automatic settings unless your environment mandates it.
Why don't you use an ad blocker. Looking at the ads on speedtest.net is gross.
Hello Dwight, you are completely right, I create so many lab scenarios that I just don´t do it anymore. Is like now I have a visual filter for ads... they are everywhere :-)