Stop F***ing Up Footprints!
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- Peter Martin shows you how to fix three common mistakes people make when playing Wayne Shorter's classic standard "Footprints."
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What's going on? Peter Martin here for Two Minute Jazz. What is that? That's the correct introduction to "Footprints." It's a wonderful tune from Wayne Shorter that is often butchered. But we're gonna fix that today. I'm gonna talk to you about how to stop playing this tune wrong. I'm gonna give you three major errors in this and how to fix them.
The first is that bassline and that little counter-melody. It's even part of the melody. Anticipate it, one, two, three... Okay, so you've gotta get that part of the melody right as anticipation and the bassline needs to be on the beat.
You can always leave it later on, but let's start there. Then the next part, F minor, again, we can play whatever we want, but the original stays on that drone, that pedal point C is F minor over C, not F minor. Alright... And it's not perfect fourths, that's a different song. Now can you play that? Sure, you can play whatever you want, but know the original first, okay? So get the right bassline.
All right, the third major thing we're gonna fix today is the changes on the bridge. F sharp half diminished but with that major ninth. And you gotta know the melody and how it lays. Then we go to F13 because that's part of the melody, sharp 11. So F# half diminished with the ninth, natural ninth, F13 sharp eleven, and now we've got E9 with the flatted fifth. Not... or sharp nine. I mean, you can play that, but that's not what Herbie played on the original, on Adam's Apple. And then we got A7 sharp nine flat 13. Then we got blues comin' down.
Okay, fix those three things and you will be jammin' on Wayne Shorter's "Footprints." Happy practicing.
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Great video! "You can play whatever you want but know the original." Couldn't agree more. Would love to see a "Stop F-ing Up" series.
Yes! A "Stop F***ing up" series would be awesome! Would like to know where I'm going wrong on stuff like "Song for My Father," "Blue Bossa," or "All the Things You Are." As a horn player, I can sometimes get away with not knowing, say, the b9 on a G7b9 chord. Not a great habit to get into.
This is GOLD and I agree.... A "Stop F....king Up..." series would be the BOMB!!! This taught me so much! I couldn't hear it but I knew it wasn't what the Real Book said it was! Thanks so much Peter!!!
Great Video! I like the idea of a "Stop F***ing up" series as well!
I highly appreciate the specificity of this lesson - would love similar dissections of tunes
Thank you!! I've seen so many versions of those changes, and it's hard for me to hear the voicings. This was fantastic. Would love to see something like this on other tricky tunes, like Round Midnight, Infant Eyes, and more! 20 stars!
Thank you Peter. I looked at five different fakebook versions of Footprints for a better understanding, but your video explanation was by far the best and most definitive demonstration of the correct chords. I will be looking for your videos with gleeful anticipation. Peace, stay well.
Awesome stuff! Gets me up practicing every time.
You're the real deal, my man!
Thanks for a great video Peter! I hate it when I go out on a casual gig and musicians play a tune like they've never heard the original. +1 on the Stop F**ing up series!
Thanks a lot, i really appreciate what you share. That’s allow me to change my play.
I play guitar but can't stop smiling watching this dude. Great standard.
You would think that searching up something like “Herbie Hancock footprints voicings” would be easy, but it took quite a bit of trudging through mountains of rumors and innuendo to find this gem. Thank you!
Thank you! The only person on CZcams to get the chords right!
Great lesson, thank you!
I wonder why that bridge works. There are so many Wayne Shorter compositions that are great to listen to but when you actually analyse the changes they're really hard to make sense of.
If you try to analyze Wayne's tunes with traditional harmonic analysis, you'll get lost quickly. He was deliberately trying to get away from standard cycle of fourths type changes. It's usually described as using chords as colors, rather than logically linked ibuilding blocks. Try seeing how the melody works over the chords without worrying about the sequence of chords. Then, follow the path of the melody he wrote with something new.
@@JonFrumTheFirst Good advice. My favourite Wayne Shorter composition is Nefertiti.
@@UkuleleAversion I'm an Infant Eyes guy.
Creative voice leading
Its MODAL jazz.....not old fart FUNCTIONAL harmony
THANK YOU!!!
Finally!! 😎
thank you so much i am one of the ones messing up the 2nd to last chord line. I didnt know the difference between dim and half diminished when it showed in a chart. I also didnt take the time to find out the proper way to play the alt chords in this song. I just been playing a reg dim and regular dom 7 chords because i was reading charts(improperly) on the spot never went home after the gig to learn the proper way or listen to the recording closely. SMH i was looking for a vid just like this and yours showed up as soon as i did a search LOL i said to myself yup that's me F***ING up that song. Our band leader told me one time but i thought my chart was wrong in IREAL but it was actually the operator error not knowing it was me lol. Thanks again P Martin
I think the reason a lot of people play the ascending fourths bass line on the Fm7 measures (creating a Fm11/C sound) is because that's what Ron Carter did on the Miles Smiles version of the tune, which is way more well-known than Wayne's version from Adam's Apple. On the Miles Smiles version, Herbie's not even playing the bass line. As for Carter's line, I feel like he sometimes makes that third note a higher C (i.e. playing C - F - C - Eb), but just as often if not more it sticks with the Bb.
That's how I play it. I don't play the bass line because my bassist does. Good video for a stand alone pianist.
I came here for one thing: the bass line on the IV (Fm7), let alone the turnaround. I still don’t understand it because the video skips over it quickly. It’s the simplest bass line in the world but
And where the video says “keep the pedal point” shouldn’t it say keep the same exact figure as for the I (Cm7)? It’s a repeated bass line not a pedal tone, I thought
Jazz is personality. I keep the song relevant by staying close to the cover but I will always edit my chords to fit how my band likes to play. That's not F...... Up... That's JAZZ!
@@AquaticMammalOnBicycle IF it is, like All Blues,
I would love for this to turn into a series
I subscribed Right away!! You are now on my "Piano Lessons" CZcams list!!
Thank you! So many guitarists mess this up by playing purely QUARTAL harmony, and ignoring the fact that there are mainly altered chords. As you said, NOT perfect fourths.
Masterclass, fixed up my lead sheet.
Very nice, thanks
I love this video
Brilliant.
Re: Major 9th. Regardless of how Peter used the term, Herbie dropped at least one Cmaj9 during Wayne's solo section. It may have been a Cmaj7(add 2).
Hey Peter,
just for the sake of arguing:
my 1st point: on *Adam's Apple*, Herbie is playing an 11th in the r.h. part of his Cm7 voicing - instead of the 5th (that you played). on head repeat he is making this F into a F-Gb trill (together with Wayne, who plays D with a Eb trill).
my 2nd point: Miles' album *Miles Smiles* could be regarded as the other 'main recording' of the piece (same year 1967, also with Wayne & Herbie). Ron Carter is playing C-F-Bb-Eb on Fm7 - alternating with C-F-C-Eb.
btw: I love your 2 minute jazz and You'll hear it series,
best Andy
to point #1: on listening carefully, I even think Herbie is playing a double trill F-Gb together with Bb-Cb
I'm very used to playing the fourths on the second bass line via the Miles Smiles record. I like it much better than the C - F - C - Eb. Also, thanks for hipping me to the proper chords on the bridge!
Excellent point! I was looking for confirmation of what I was hearing - that's it!
Alright, so I've studied this tutorial for 4 days. Last night I took all this valuable information with me to the Jam. I brought up the subject of these 'correct' changes for the 'Bridge' to a very knowledgeable, highly skilled and well recognized Jazz player. He said "Yeah, the Real Book changes are wrong, but every time we do the correct changes it just sounds like shit, so we just do it how everyone else does.." When I suggested that the reason it may sound like shit is because maybe not everyone is following the correct changes, he just sort of shrugged it off. Oh well, so much for the Jam.. Maybe I'll give it another go at some rehearsal somewhere down the line.
Your point is probably 100% valid and right on the money. "Jams" and "open Fill in the Blank" anything are bullshit, anyway, if you ask me - more social than integral.
Footprints is not really a jam session kind of tune, for this exact reason.
@@dzungvo5337 I don't know why you would say that.
It's called maybe 85% of the time at every single Jam I attend.
@@horowizard It's often a train wreck at jams, for the reason you describe. I read a story about one of Wayne Shorter's bassists, who refused to play the tune unless Wayne specified what changes he wanted (apparently Wayne had a fe different versions).
@@dzungvo5337 Apparently Wayne Shorter is not the only musician that would do different versions of their own tune. Usually the recorded version is the way they happen to have played it on that particular day.
Thanx,sir!🌹🍀🌹
I don't doubt Mr Martin's accuracy in rendering Adam's Apple. However, somewhere on the Internets, I found a document which claimed "Wayne's handwritten lead sheet for Footprints shows the following chords for the A section." Ok, it is the Internet, so it must be true! ^) ( and if having an A section implies a B section !?!?!WTF)
Cmi 9 ( 4 measures)
Fmi13 (2 measures) (C in bass as Martin states)
Cmi 9 ( 2 measures)
F#-9 B+9+5 (1 measure)
E7+9 A+11+9+5 (1 measure)
Cmi 9 (2 measures)
BTW, the you can find a copy of this lead-sheet just before the Table of Contents in the Shorter biography "Footprints" by Michelle Mercer
about time... let's get it right! at least once :D
loved this because I,ve been f-ing it for years.
Such a tune
I think of that F# as E/F#dim (two triads). Great vid - thanks for clarifying the message.
Hi there, on the F# chord I hear a diminished scale step / half step. Is this wrong when soloing? Thanks
@@NitramTeurg whole/half diminished scale (F# G# A B C D Eb F) will mostly work well on a half diminished chord. The natural 7th of the diminished scale will clash with the flat 7th of the halfdim chord, so generally you should only use that as a passing tone, but everything else works pretty well.
@@patrickbg110 Thanks, makes sense!
Thanks
Short and Sweet and massively helpful. Thank you. 1 less butchered Footprints here. Peter am I wrong in saying the bass uses the fourth ascending (instead of the fifth) when right hand moves to F minor, i.e. G C F C Eb G C
The bassline doesn’t sound as syncopated as you suggest. That Eb seems to land after the chord. I feels like Reggie is being very deliberate. It makes the chord and note feel “bigger” actually. Pretty interesting.
Helll yeah!!
Just curious about the chords at the bridge section, now the chart I have goes D7 for two bars down to Dflat7 for another two bars back down to Cminor, has anyone else encountered this version? I play bass and when I play the D7 and Dflat over the ones in this vid, the bass line still fits. Just curious since the other versions I’ve seen haven’t had the bridge chords that are on the chart I have
Thanks Peter for the tips. However, i would play G7sus4 instead of A7 at the end? Makes more sense imo
Do you play that same turnaround on the improvisations too? Most charts that I've seen specify a II-V-I or a bVI-V-I sequence, which is certainly easier to get used to. I've found that soloists sometimes seem to get a little flustered if I play the chords you specified.
The real puzzle isn’t the chords of the bridge (a straight III7-VI7-II7-V7 into dm), but the abrupt modulation from A7 back to cm. Maybe the ear hears it as a ii-i? (Implied dm to cm?)
I think the fact that the melody holds an F when it goes back to Cm (which makes it "feel" a bit like Dm which is what you'd expect from A7) makes it work. So you have a bit of tension and resolve simultaneously, but the familiar bass line allows you to come back to reality and forget about any tension. Just my two-cents
that was really helpful as the fakebook is kind of misleading on the bridge
Is it a bridge or turnaround ?
it's a revelation that the first chord is an Eb maj 7, with a D , not an Eb on the top, the Eb is actually played as a trill by Wayne ..thank you !
it's a Cm9. (in fact, on the original recording it's Cm11 - the voicing in the right hand is F/G/Bb/D - the left hand provides the Eb (and the root). Peter gets this wrong [yet still presumes to tell us all how WE are wrong :D])
While I totally get the ‘originalist’ argument, the iv 6/4 bass line adds an ambiguity/tension that (imo) is less satisfying to the listener, particularly considering that there is plenty of tension in the bridge.
So I learned it ‘original’, but in performance use a nice strong F in the bass.
0:00 - 0:11 you didn't hear the 'F' in the right hand...?
(0:12 stopped watching..)
Listen again: "You'll hear it" :D
- Stop Fucking Up Footprints!!
Wise words: "You can play whatever you want, but know the original first."
The bridge is what everyone f's up bad on this tune.
Yes, that's the most common f up. I've also heard the bass line being f'd up. Instead of playing the line with a C pedal over the F minor, the bass line repeats the C minor bass line just transposed to F. The original is Fmin/C. As Peter says... later on play it different, but at the start play it right.✌🙂
@@GlennMichaelThompson what changes do you use on the bridge?
@@rillloudmother
F#min9b5, F13#11, G9b5. What Peter says.
@@rillloudmother
Well as close as I can get it. I'm a guitar player, so it's difficult if not impossible to get the piano voicings the same way. I'm going to see about playing this with another guitarist, where we could each play different parts of the piano voicing. I'm hoping it will work out.
@@GlennMichaelThompson i play guitar also, you don't have to cover all the notes of the piano chords, it's mostly about root motion on the bridge.
You need to other versions if you think it’s often butchered!!!
I always thought the change was D Dom 7#9 to G Dom 7
Not playing tunes like this accurate to the original is particularly egregious because this is one of those songs where the original is the "definitive" version.
A lot of the jazz repertoire (Night and Day, There Will Never be Another You, Misty) aren't necessarily "most famous" in their original recordings so there are several ways of playing them . But to me Footprints...is Footprints. Play it like Wayne wrote it!
Not even Wayne played it like he wrote it, during the decades the piece continually evolved to something else...listen to his version on the "Footprints" album.
Awesome... Peter, you're the Ayatollah of Rock'n Rollah!
gktde9874 haha :)
you are pushing the cminor on the intro as well as the bass line so both the chord are on the 3+
The original recording wasnt at Miles Smiles?
No, it was on Adam's Apple, a Wayne Shorter album from 1963, 2 years before miles smiles
To my ears Hancock's opening chord sounds much more like C/G/Bb/D/Eb/F, thus Cm7/9/11.
peter erskin + joe martin = peter martin
What would be the reasoning between the f7#11 but E7 being a b5
I really don't know. Maybe he just made a mistake. The way I was taught: call it a b5 if it's below the 7th and a #11 if it's above it. If there's no 7th just call it a b5.
F7 has the 5th too.
#11 for subV. b5 for V7.
The title of this lesson is Hilarious :)
OK the Øchord with the non locrian 9th the natural 9th that's the 6th mode of the melodic minor scale which itself has some nomenclature ambiguity I guess. So like a Cmaj7#5/F#= F#ø9
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What's a major ninth ?
An interval.
? min3rd
Nice, but you didn't give the errors like you said you would.. just the correct way. How are folks playing it wrong?
one could just say stop using the realbook. These are spelled out quite nicely in the Sher books.
how much knowledge can you fit inside two minutes? the answer is yes
that major 9th huh?
I know it's been a year but he was referring to the interval, not the chord "major 9". On half diminished chords with upper structure melody notes, the major 9th interval is used (derived from locrian natural 2, a mode of ascending melodic minor) to avoid the dissonance of the minor 9th.
16 people F#%&$ up footprints. lol
never take jazz advice from someone who doesn't stank face
thanks peter :)
Obviously correct informations but way too fast if you intend to teach
thank you sooooooo much!! probably one of my faourite piano riff...
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Good Jam!!!
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That's kind of police going on there
What the hell you talkin' about?
Jazz Nazis like this guy are one reason so many people get turned off to jazz. I lost count of how many times he said “You can play anything you like”, but I think he really meant “You VILL play it korrrrrrectly as I inztruct you, or else!!!”
Sounds like he touched a nerve
If u don't know the benefit to learning exactly what was originally done, you're doomed. It teaches general principals into the brain, you have free reign to never play it like that after that, all you want, or never learn it "exactly", your choice. Its called.......ta da transcription. Developing your ear is the goal. You may make an arrangement that's better than the original. Pat Martino's version is better. Its hard to transcribe. You may revisit transcribing a tune years later and get closer and learn something.
Its not about correct...yes, he's a dickwad for calling it "correct". Works in all genres of music, like rock, blues, country, blue grass and death metal polka.
I like fucking up footprints and I will continue to do so . It's a stupid tune anyway and when did jazz suddenly become so prescriptive ? Absolute cargo cult .
Oh my god you're so angsty 💀
Amen!