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An interesting 2nd order non linear differential equation

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  • čas přidán 14. 08. 2024
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Komentáře • 30

  • @maths_505
    @maths_505  Před 8 měsíci +12

    NOTE: At the 1:02 mark, the equation is d^2y/dx^2=u(du/dy).

  • @holyshit922
    @holyshit922 Před 8 měsíci +6

    This equation can be easily reduced to first order by substitution u(y) = y'
    y'' = u'(y)y'
    y'' = u'(y)u(y)
    yuu' - 1/2u^2 = -4y^2
    Now we can solve it two ways as homogeneous or as Bernoulli

  • @michaelbaum6796
    @michaelbaum6796 Před 8 měsíci

    Wolfram alpha delivers for this ODE: y(x)=C2*cos^2(sqrt(2)*(C1+x))

  • @vit1leman14
    @vit1leman14 Před 8 měsíci +1

    This was awesome! Love your channel !

  • @kappascopezz5122
    @kappascopezz5122 Před 8 měsíci +2

    0:58 Isn't there a mistake here? If you substitute u=dy/dx into du/dy dy/dx you should get u du/dy instead of u dy/dx
    Edit: okay I watched further and saw that you proceeded with the correct substitution in the next step

  • @MrWael1970
    @MrWael1970 Před 8 měsíci

    Thank you for your effort.

  • @michaelbaum6796
    @michaelbaum6796 Před 8 měsíci

    Very nice solution, thanks a lot👍 11:28

  • @elgransayaman-hv6qs
    @elgransayaman-hv6qs Před 6 měsíci

    When can i apply the chain rule?, sometimes the chain rule has not been applied in y'=u

  • @manstuckinabox3679
    @manstuckinabox3679 Před 8 měsíci +1

    Ah it's been a while since I solved one of those bad boys, quick question: how do you know when to use the Exact differential method (ofc with the integrating factor cases)? what are the usual rules of thumb?
    anyways great vid!

    • @maths_505
      @maths_505  Před 8 měsíci

      I just move stuff around. It helps when you have the equation in a differential form with one dx term and another dy term and from there you can use some intuitive guess work or the more formal rules for integrating factors (that I can't remember 😂).

  • @darthnihilius6757
    @darthnihilius6757 Před 8 měsíci

    I didnt use substitution and it worked so i am happy

    • @darthnihilius6757
      @darthnihilius6757 Před 8 měsíci

      What i essentially did was make y equal e^lambda x and then figure out the equation (making sure all the y’s are isolated and equalling 0) and then solving for e^{2lambda x}(…) =0 and then getting only a complex answer, plucking that in Eulers formula and then checking by calculating all the terms (4y^2),(y(y’’(x)),(y’(x))^2 and then plucking all those answers back into the first formula, which checked out

    • @darthnihilius6757
      @darthnihilius6757 Před 8 měsíci

      y for me eventually came out to be cos(sqrt(8)x) + isin(sqrt(8)x) and the equation was correct so I can’t complain

  • @TMH2007
    @TMH2007 Před 8 měsíci +1

    I found this one a bit simpler(or maybe your content has set the standards too high)
    BTW i have hit more than a 100 subs:) which also has alot of contribution from your side.

  • @illumexhisoka6181
    @illumexhisoka6181 Před 8 měsíci

    I self learn math alot
    Especially calcus
    But the main reason I almost didn't do any searching about linear algebra deferential equation and complex analysis
    Is because I don't like to learn anything that I didn't build my understanding of it from the very start
    how did we even come with
    Especially dealing with matrixs
    I learned it in school and until now for me it's some random operations on some numbers
    And now we are using them to solve equations?
    I might as will just use Wolfram alpha to solve them
    I love math (one of the reasons) because it pure logic
    Basid on my (our) understanding and logical steps we can do things seemed impossible
    So as a start to help me do you know an easy way to proof that any nth order linear deffertial equation have exactly n solutions
    It's the reason I don't expect the solution of the integral cos(x)/(1+x²) form -∞ to ∞ with deffertial equations
    What if there is more that one solution and only one work
    Like solving for a side of a right angle and choosing the positive of the two answers because there is no thing as negative side

    • @maths_505
      @maths_505  Před 8 měsíci

      I think you should start with prof Leonard's series on DEs. That should set you up perfectly.

    • @illumexhisoka6181
      @illumexhisoka6181 Před 8 měsíci

      @@maths_505 when you said Leonard's series
      I thought it's a mathematical series
      Not a playlist 😅

    • @maths_505
      @maths_505  Před 8 měsíci

      @@illumexhisoka6181 😂😂😂

  • @alexdefoc6919
    @alexdefoc6919 Před 8 měsíci

    Please i would really like if you could tell me what do you use to draw, a tablet connect to your phone/tabled or a pen or something else. And if you could tell me the name of the product. ❤❤❤

    • @maths_505
      @maths_505  Před 8 měsíci

      It's an S6 tab and I use Samsung notes

    • @alexdefoc6919
      @alexdefoc6919 Před 8 měsíci

      And the pen that comes with it?@@maths_505

  • @giuseppemalaguti435
    @giuseppemalaguti435 Před 8 měsíci

    ,👍...purtroppo i miei ricordi non mi consentono di risolvere queste equazioni... però ho capito...

  • @BruceWayne-mk9km
    @BruceWayne-mk9km Před 8 měsíci

    Nice one. Why don't you solve some elliptic integral?

    • @maths_505
      @maths_505  Před 8 měsíci +2

      Ohh now that is a good idea🔥🔥🔥

  • @rob876
    @rob876 Před 8 měsíci

    y'' = y'dy'/dy
    (1/2)y'^2 = 4y^2 + yy'dy'/dy
    (1/2)y'^2 - yy'dy'/dy = 4y^2
    y' = uy
    (1/2)u^2y^2 - uy^2(u + ydu/dy) = 4y^2
    u^2y^2 - 2u^2y^2 - 2uy^3du/dy = 8y^2
    -u^2 - 2uydu/dy = 8
    2uydu/dy = -u^2 - 8
    2udu/(u^2 + 8) = dy/y
    ln(u^2 + 8) = ln y + C
    u^2 + 8 = ky
    (y'/y)^2 = ky - 8
    y'/y = √(ky - 8)
    y' = y√(ky - 8)
    dy/[y√(ky - 8)] = dx
    atan(1/2√(ky/2 - 4))/√2 = x + C
    y = Ksec^2((x + C)/√2)

    • @lih3391
      @lih3391 Před 4 měsíci +1

      You forgot a negative on line 9, and somehow, the wolframalpha solution is C_2cos^2(x*sqrt2+C_1) I checked with desmos, this is actually the right answer somehow! Also, how did atan turn into sec?
      I love your solution development though, I also tried u=y'/y, but some silly mistakes took me out in the end