2021 YT Izzo: Short Term Review
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Well, I think this might be one of the most anticipated reviews I've ever done. I've had a TON of questions about the @YTIndustriesTV Izzo and all I can say is this...IT'S RAD!! Sit back, relax and enjoy some ripping footage and a solid discussion between Rob and I about our experience with this bike.
Summary: The Izzo is very much a "one bike to do it all" depending on where you're riding and who you are. I've not hidden how much I love the Transition Spur and the Izzo is knocking on the door of "favorite bike" territory. Incredibly balanced, yet superbly capable, the drawback so far FOR ME is the Fox 34 fork. I've added in all the volume reducers and run higher pressures with ALL of the compression dialed in and it still bottoms harshly. It's not to say it's a bad fork, it's just a bad fork for me on this particular bike. I'd venture to say 80% of people riding this bike will love it. But that means I'm also saying 80% of the people riding this bike won't be bringing the thunder that I am ;)
This is a size Large Core 4 build. The only thing I've done is add @cushcore XC to the stock tires.
PLEASE drop any questions or comments down below and we will get them answered as quickly and thoroughly as possible. In addition, YOU KNOW there's more content coming on this sweet whip!! - Zábava
I enjoy the dual reviews. You two remind me of my brother and . We are 50 and 44. Thanks for taking the time to share your experiences.
Great review guys. You were smashing those trails. Peace out boys!!!!
I’m loving these combo bike reviews 👊👊
Thanks dude! You'll see more of them soon ;)
Good to see other old boys rocking the climbs ! I ride a 2020 model comp XL I’m 6foot 225 lbs I’ve never hit the bottom of my Suspension on my izzo an I ride same as the both of you guys ? I’m still riding with the grip shift lock out on it as well with no problems. I’ve made one small change to my bike and put a 28 tooth front ring on it that’s all it’s a amazing bike that fits the everyday riding I do !!
This review has convinced me that I need a YT Izzo. I am 61, but have almost 20 years of riding and racing XC, most of those races on single speed bikes (many solo 8 hour races). I am used to sharp handling, ultra-light bikes, always hard-tails. But age has caught up with me and I started looking at full suspension bikes. I still fret over bike weight, but I need to let that go. I just need a bike with full suspension that can climb reasonably well and help me survive the odd technical sections and descents we have here. Thank you for a great video.
Glad to see the comparison to the spur. So many others say the Izzo isn’t even close. Nice to see a comparison from someone riding some rough stuff. Would definitely like to see a follow up on that Fox 36 on this bike. I threw an Ohlins TTX2 Air on the rear and looking to mix up the fork at some point.
as an izzo owner I don't see how people can say its not close. short travel bikes can only do so much. no matter what you won't be riding whistler downhill with a spur. I've ridden a handful of the short travel bikes and they all feel pretty similar to me, biggest difference is how progressive or linear the rear is, and what is better depends on what you ride. Ripley, spur, izzo, top fuel, if you can get them all similar weight and tires they will all feel pretty good and then its personal preference what you want the rear end to do with your suspension. just get whatever bike you can find in stock. they are all good
Two brands I trust, LMNT & YT. Great video 🤙
I just snagged an Izzo Core 4 for only 3k on YT's clearance, I am SO excited. Going to be here in time for my fam's annual Bentonville pilgrimage next month. I think it'll do great for most of Bentonville's stuff, especially while cruising around with the groms and not going full send on my big bike.
Did you have to mess with the stock volume spacers at all? I have seem some reviews mentioning removing a negative are spacer + adding positive tokens to max.
Thanks Rich!
You guys have nailed everything I've said about this bike. And I agree, a SID and a Deluxe Ultimate would've been perfect for the people riding it as XC. But the bike is so capable, it begs you to send it hard. I'm even clanging my 140 Pike on my Blaze. Essentially, Rob will be making his a beefed up Blaze when he puts in the Deluxe Ultimate he has. I've considered taking my Pike to 150mm, but didn't want to go more than the 10mm above the intended 130 design. Seeing a guy like him running 160 is egging me on big time! Great review.
Regarding clanging my Pike, I haven't added volume reducers yet. I've been contemplating a MRP Ramp Control. Had one in a 36 on my previous Jeffsy and loved how it really only seemed noticeable on big hits.
@@WEAZY-E Funny you mention the MRP Ramp Control, I'm gonna give it a try before I swap to the 36.
Try the mrp ramp control in place of the spacers… I was bottoming but added this and haven’t had an issue since. I have the Izzo as well….
Excellent review. One question. Are you running flip chip high or low?
I like this style video!
Hey guys, great review! Do you know if the izzo is coil compatible at all?
I'm very close to picking up a 2020 Izzo Pro (w/140 front travel). I am riding mostly here in AZ - currently at Brown's Ranch as I develop my skills. I am curious about 3 things 1. Do you think that this bike might get too "busy" on things like Hawknest Trail at Pima Dynamite (not sure if you are familiar)? I've heard you can take out one or both of the spacers in the negative chamber of the rear shock to make be a bit more compliant. 2. Do you think it is a good bike to build skills on to head more to the trails at South Mountain or in Sedona? 3. Or do you think it is better to go with something like a new Fezzari SIGNAL PEAK TR COMP which has a little travel instead (which I think is one of the other bikes you've been on).
Glad you finally got the Izzo to try out. Sad my Izzo was stolen a month after getting mine...was going to try to get out to B-ville for you to have tried it. Loved my Izzo for the short time I had it...the only gripe I had was I kept locking/unlocking the suspension by accident with the grip lockout.
Mine was also stolen after a month, off the bike rack on the back of my truck in my driveway :(
dude, that's a total bummer that it got stolen :(
Nice Video dude!
Wow my dream bike
After upgrading the Izzo with a longer fork, maybe you should compare it to the Jeffsy and see how they handle one-to-one.
the izzo has a very progressive rear suspension so without even riding them you know that the Jeffsy going to be more plush, izzo more efficient based on how they are designed. geometry is similar so the front end probably won't feel that much different. If you ride chunk then Jeffsy will keep you happy but on the flows the progressive izzo is going to shred better than the jeffsy. Izzo will be more composed climbing as well choose the bike based on your terrain
I loved the details on the fork. 90psi, 4 spacers. How much do you weigh, if that is not too personal! I have a CORE3 so curious to compare my setup and I weigh 145 lbs. ○ 70psi front and 8 LSR and 7 HSR
Hey there Hans! I'm 190 and ride pretty hard. How does yours feel with that setup?
@@richdrewtherideseries I’m happy with that setup but I’m switching to a 140 air shaft soon… to your point in the video of the bike being more capable.
I love the trails
So do we! Sedona is incredible!
Man I was hoping you were going to say you've figured how to setup the 34. I've been having hard a time with the it. Other than that and getting used to the g2 brakes. Its been an amazing bike.
I wish I had the magic formula...and so do my forearms ;) I'm just not sure it's setup to handle someone my weight riding it this hard. I'll tweak it a bit more to see if I can get some support out of it, I'll keep ya posted.
@@richdrewtherideseries
I was going to ask about the weight of the rider. I’m 5’9 and 165 lbs. Thinking this fork would be fine for me since I don’t ride as hard as you.. yet. Also trying to decide between the YT in medium or large. I ride a Trek in medium that feels fine now and like to error on the side of smaller for weight savings if any.
I ride a Spur (and it's a blast 👌 👌 👌) and the yt izzo blaze edition is freshly arrived waiting for my brother. So I will be excited to ride them 1:1. Can imagine there is an bike out there which climbs even better with 120mm (I think the dw suspension of an ripley af will do that) , but the traction and capabilities on the downs are just speechless. Soo good, so quiet, even better than my 160mm Canyon strive. And I liked it a lot. But the frame details of specialized are still the reference with swat etc. A lot of companies copy their stuff afterwards... But well, so many good bikes out there today.
What was the verdict?
@@JackBWakeham my brother just started riding the izzo, so no chance for a comparison yet
If you have an update, let me know, I'm also deciding to go lighter due to the rides I mainly do, this is coming from a RIPMO AF. Rode my friend's ripley the other day and my maneuverability and stop and go speed was so noticeable, and I was able to tail him the entire ride when on my ripmo I would start to fall off a bit. I'm debating between izzo and spur(if ever that becomes available.)
@@Max-dj5qj yeah this is like a very needed update. so many people want to try the spur and the izzo but it's quite literally impossible to demo any of them lol
I can't give any comparison feedback until now. More bike for the money is for sure the izzo concerning the specs. The izzo will be even more agil and compact concerning the geo.maybe also the better climber. But I was thinking about getting the spur as one bike for all, but after a few months I must regret, that this bike is a bit to "weak" or say flexible in the rear end. It does have awesome traction, but every time railing corner pretty hard, the rear Tyre scratches at the chain stays. And we talk about dt swiss xm481 wheels, not the pretty bad original stans one. So I sold it for pretty good money ofc and want to go for an stumpjumper evo alloy... But as everywhere, it got delayed pretty much. So today I'm getting the regular stumpy alloy comp as nearly new for a nice price. That thing looks like it can take some abuse... I'm aluminum fan, it's robust, I never had an issue. Carbon starts with pretty bad painting and ends with cracked frames :). So I will go for the stumpjumper alloy with gx drivetrraint, xm481 wheels, code brakes and a tuned 34 and super deluxe ultimate shock later... And paid way less:). So in the end, spur is a superb bike, but the enduro geo holds up more then the rest... I was kinda afraid of cracking the whole think... At least in the bikepark. Service is 100% better than from yt!
I love my Izzo, but I wish this review was done with 130 or 140mm fork that is supported travel for Izzo.
Have you guys been able to ride a Jeffsey? If so, what do you think? I am looking for a good climbing 140-150 rear travel 29in. bike.
Hey Tony! Haven't gotten on the Jeffsey yet, hopefully soon. Stay tuned.
Hey tony
I have a Jeffsy down in New Zealand 🇳🇿
It’s an older version, but I have ridden it hard every where and have had a short ride on the newer jeffsy. They climb well, if rear shock is set up well then you can leave it open all the time. It’s playful, poppy, forgiving and reasonably efficient. It’s a very good do everything bike. I can go bike packing, enduro, short Xc and even short road rides to trail heads. Very good trail bike.
At 6’1” I typically fall between a L & an XL. Just curious on Rich’s thoughts on size suggestions.
I would say go with a large. I have an XL. I am 6 ft. I also have other bikes from YT and they fit really good in XL. I am just not a big fan of the seat tube length on the XL Izzo. So unless you have really long legs a.k.a. long inseam then I would go with the large. I got an XL because I thought it would fit like the other bikes. And that’s what they had in stock. I think riding style has something to do with it as well. But remember it’s a trail bike so smaller lighter and shorter seems to be better IMO. I mean if we were talking about a downhill bike and you were torn between sizes you could get the XL and it would be longer, more stable, and potentially faster. My only regret about the Izzo is that I got the xl and I didn’t get the large
Hey Tyson! I talked with Rob and he agreed that a L would be the way to go. You also the input from jmreagan below and it seems pretty spot on!
@@jmreagan007 GREAT input dude!!
@@jmreagan007 great advice!!! I'm between sizes S and M, and I ordered an Izzo blaze in size S. I was doubting about the size and thinking if I had chosen wrong size. Now I think I choose well. Thanks!!!
So Rich, honestly between the Izzo vs spur and being someone who isn't as gnarly or beast on the trails as you, which one would you recommend? I'm coming from a RIPMO AF and I love that thing but its too much for the trails I ride and having ridden my friend's ripley, I realized just how hampered I was, also loved how much more responsive the steering was compared to when I am on my ripmo and it feels like I'm driving a semi.
I've ridden both - the Spur hands down, it's a brilliant bike. I had the Izzo Pro and found it dull on most trails; extremely capable but dull. I've also ridden my mate's Ripmo AF, and that's more poppy and fun than the Izzo and more capable everywhere if a bit heavy.
Where will the dates and locations be posted for the ride series clinics?
Hey Scott! You can find it all here
www.therideseriesmtb.com/
Thanks Rich. I will check it out. Hopefully one is cloes to me. Happy new year to you and your family.
So I have an XL izzo pro race. Probably have around 800 miles on it. I have rode all over AZ, Bentonville, and Angelfire on this bike. Modified the grip shift lock out to still work with regular grips. I am 6 foot and 230. I did go to a shorter stem. I put on XC Cushcore, an Assegai in the front and using up the second stock forecaster in the back. Sometimes I feel like the seat tube is a little bit too tall. Makes me think that I would probably have been better with a size large. I agree with the Drew boys! It is almost the perfect trail bike. My front shock is a fox factory 34 and it is begging for mercy! I am interested to see how you like the fox 36 in a 150mm on that bike.
How tall is Rob?
I have a 2020 version, and my rear shock doesn't work its always closed
How would you compare the Izzo to the new trail 429?
Hey Mitchell! I haven’t ridden a new Trail yet. Hoping to get on one in January. I’ll ask Rob to chime in here.
Thanks!
what do you mean by "all compression"? Fully open?
asking because I have regular 34 float with 2 spacers in it and depending on the pressure, I either blow through 1st half of stroke in no time flat with ok support after...or I am never able to reach the last 10-20mm of travel. I am thinking maybe I should max out spacers and lower pressure even more?
Hey there! This fork has high and low speed compression adjustment, I'm using all of it. I normally run my bikes fully open and try to free up the suspension to do it's job, but this fork just can't seem to quite handle what I'm doing to it.
Capra review?
Yeah that fox 34 is nice but too soft and flexy. Better to run a 36 at 140mm
I went with a 36 at 150mm, it's legit!!
so how would you compare the izzo to the spur?
I’d say riding them both would be the best place to start 😳🤣🤷🏻♂️.
They compare very well! The Izzo has a bit more high end capability in the rear for sure. I’d like to get some longer “XC” style rides on the Izzo to get a better cross section.
@@richdrewtherideseries that's way I'm asking you, I know you were riding the spur for a while and I was under the impression that you liked them a lot, and to be more precise I'm more interested in how would you compare the climbs?...
@@davidbarilan I was trying to be funny David, it didn't work. It's splitting hairs man, they're both incredible bikes. Here's my input: The better bike is the one you can get sooner. If you can get both, the better bike is the one you get the best deal on. Seriously, they are both great and I think they both climb incredibly well in my experience.
@@richdrewtherideseries hay don't worry, you were funny😉
More of the same.
Is there any way of demoing direct to consumer bikes?
Hi how are you doing
what name of town you are? I want to live here.
Sedona, Arizona USA
I haven't seen any comments about the shock levers being so far out of reach. I frequently switch from trail to open mode when descending; however, with the levers being at the bottom of the shock mount I'm wondering if anyone has issues switching them? Looks like you either have to take your eyes off the trail, maybe drop the saddle to switch or stop the bike?
Also, YT's warranty is only good for 5 years, for the person that bought the bike. If you decide the sell the bike after a few years and there are issues with the bike the next person is kinda hosed. Anyone have any experience dealing with YT and warranties?
Why would you dudes ride a bike like this? Seems very under gunned for both of your skill levels?
Hey Wrangler! I actually love these "down country" or "trail light" type of bikes. I think part of the reason we have so much fun on them is that our skill level allows for it.
@@richdrewtherideseries ok, thanks just ordered my izzo. Really wanted a Delano ... But I think this thing will be rad. I'm light trail rider and like long days too fingers crossed