Kraut Scout | Spähpanzer 1C Anti-Tank Reconnaissance Vehicle
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- Following the end of the Second World War, the defeated German Army was disbanded by the victorious Allies. However, the ever-rising tensions with the Soviet Union forced the Western Allies to reconsider this decision. The new West German Army, known as the Bundeswehr, was formed in 1955, and soon after, a large rearmament process was initiated. In the case of the armored reconnaissance units, the Bundeswehr requested the acquisition of small tracked armored reconnaissance vehicles. These came in the form of the Schützenpanzer (Kurz) - Infantry Fighting Vehicle (Short). Ironically, these were developed by the French company Hotchkiss, as the Germans lacked the industrial capacity to do so on their own. The reconnaissance vehicle was offered as part of a family of vehicles, ranging from infantry fighting vehicles to ambulances. Among the vehicles offered was a reconnaissance tank destroyer, which would be known as the Spähpanzer 1C (Reconnaissance tank 1C) or SP. 1C for short. While initially, this project was seen as a good solution, it quickly turned into a flawed vehicle with numerous problems which ultimately led to its cancellation.
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4:15 I believe when Engesa, in Brazil, wanted to buy the D921 gun for the EE-9 Cascavel, the French refused to sell it without the turret, so it would make sense that the same was the case with this vehicle. Engesa eventually moved on to a license built version of the Cockerill 90mm gun
I always thought the Spähpanzer was a fictional tank that WarGaming came up with. Also, Kraut Scout is funny.
Kraut Scout is NOT funny, we GerrmanZ have no humor!
weird, because theres a prototype thats still around. still housed in Bundeswehr Museum of German Defense Technology
@@ThekilleroftanksYeah but the Spahpanzer 1C really does look like fictional tank.
@@Calvin_Coolage How this tank looks like a fictional tank since it's real? Maybe you don't see the much more bizzare. ELC EVEN 90 (I didn't know that tank is real back then untill I researched about it)
@@rizkidary837 Well what I mean is that it kinda looks like the fake tanks Wargaming has made in the past, which are usually plausible as prototypes that saw testing.
Hotchkiss got the contract mainly due to bribery, not any logical reasons. Any german company no matter if experienced with tanks or not could have delivered a better vehicle than the Hs 230
Dont you mean Hispano Suiza and the HS-30?
Dawg the Germans didn't build their first post war vehicle until the mid 50s. Germany was in no position to manufacture military equipment domestically on a large scale for decades after the war
No, not any german company, especially in those times...
@@dfwai7589Yep correct. But still Germany at the time could have choose a better vehicle like AMX for example.. AMX13 has various configuration including Light tank, APC, Ambulance, Artillery, and command vehicle
I enjoy this tank quite a bit in World of Tanks, even have the thing 3 marked, so neat seeing the reality behind the thing.
Aaaah personally I think it is an horror, too slow, turret not enough mobile, incredibly fragile, but the only good point is the powerful cannon
T-55A says "Ja, bitte..."
Its a scout tank abviously a medium tank will be superior in battle, they are designed for different reasons. Useless comment, thats like saying "tiger 2 says yes please when it sees a greyhound"
SP1C(Y)
As a tank destroyer, it could have worked in the early 50's.
Not as a real td, just as fire support for scouts in a pinch. The low velocity of the gun makes it inefficient at longer ranges
Possibly might be operated just like the AMX 13s
@@TypeKK wich had high velocity 75mm guns.
Typical of what seems to happen with this type of vehicle. The airborne folks want armor. Then mission creep sets in and the vehicle cannot be air dropped. Then you have a solution in search of a problem.
The small hatches in the turret are meant to allow the turret crew to operate hand-held assault rifles in case of close combat with infantry.
Lovely SP IC!
Interestint Video about an interesting tank concept. Thank you
It used to be one of my favorite LT in WOT, Just always thanks to WG for taking all the fun in their own game
could you do a video about the portuguese modified daimler dingo
Kraut Scout xD Briliiant :)
The same problems of drifting expectations ruined the tanks that never were of WW2: T50, US M7, and Deu Spahpanzer II Leopard. This is due to planners acting like too many chefs and spoiling the stew.
The SPW250 and SPW251 serie Armored Infantry vehicles were the first German light combat vehicle families*. These halftracks were produced in many specialist variants; radio link, mortar carriers, howitzer carriers, AA vehicles, armored ambulances, artillery ammunition carriers and spotting vehicles, and command vehicles; as well as the bases for many improvised fighting vehicles in the field. The troubles with halftracks are several, including complexity of drive train and suspension (especially multiplicity of parts per unit), poor off road performance (compared to alltrack vehicles of similar specs), and awkward intent of wheeled steering units (which were meant to ease driver training).
What if a nation could take that combat vehicle family concept and mount all kinds of specialist shells on a single dependable all track chassis? Think of the money and time and effort we could save! A great idea . . . until mission drift puts stars in the eyes of potential procurers.
What if we could make it air mobile? What if we could make it amphibious? Well, it looks like a tank now! Let's put a high caliber gun on it!
What they got was a racehorse designed by committee.
Really, the idea is sound. The concept is a good one. The problem lies with folks changing expectations as engineers make drawings for them to ponder. This ends up in Professional Art hell:
"No no! That's not what I wanted!"
"It's exactly what you asked for sir. Here's the spec sheet you issued."
"No no! You don't understand what I want! Can't you read my mind? What are you-stupid?"
"No sir. Merely loyal . . . oh. I guess I am. Loyalty to idiots does make a man look stupid. I think it's time to put in my two weeks notice. Space Patrol, here I come!"
* For the USA it was the M24 chassis. For the Brits . . . "if we call the Churchill a light tank . . ."
The so-called "complexity" of halfstracks wasn't seen as such by the Germans at that time. In fact it was done because it was more SIMPLE and cheap than a fully tracked vehicle. Any ordinary truck could be the base of a halftrack with not that many alterations (for example the "Maultier" vehicles). Pre WW2 the German army complaint was that they lacked the funds to have fully tracked vehicles. Halftracks can have a normal gearbox/differential and only need increased brake power at the rear when the tracks get very long like in the Sdkz 250/251 etc but in the case of the short tracks used in the Maultier rebuilds no extra brakes were added, the trucks could be rebuild in the field by specialized maintenance crews. A fully tracked vehicle needs a more complicated (tank-like) gearbox, is therefore much more expensive instead of a simple truck-like differential and gearbox.
An early example of the Bundeswehrs failed procurement programms
Interesting that postwar french Airborne units used the german Fallschirmjägerhelm.
Not for long
That is because they are German airborne. The footage shows early Bundeswehr Fallschirmjäger.
@@schnuersiright , this are German Paras , take a look at the Uniform looks like Bw Splittertarn used in late 50s early 60s, the Bundeswehr used for Para Units the first years the old Lw WW2 Parahelmet before adopting the US /Belgium style Helmet, the Bundesgrenzschutz GSG9 used the old WW2 Parahelmet too in his early years
Looks like a T-70/SU-76
The Kraut Mobile
A suspenção do M113 aguentaria o peso desse tank?
8:31 I'm pretty sure that's a stereoscopic or coincidence rangefinder housing...
German fat amx alc bis.
french, just made for germans
German unfinished TAM
Ultimate goblin tank
Make a video on cuban armoured vihicules, like the btr100, btr115, David infantry transport vihicule.
What if they put a stabilised 20 mm autogun or 25 mm chain gun on top of this thing with modern thermals and night vision? Could it hold up in the modern world
I wonder if this has an equivalent in the GDR which has russian made equipment.
😮
It is interesting how so many seeSpähpanzer 1C as a failure due to the gun performance. Meanwhile BMP-1 entering service in late 60s was said to be something amazing... or at least that's what Soviet propaganda says. Having a 73mm CANNON on top of your infantry carrier was certainly something new, but that gun was an enormous failure: Under 500 metres effective range with HEAT and the HE round came a decade late.
Yeah, but this thing's cannon and it's AT performance where its entire raison d'etre. For the BMP-1, the 73mm was just for infantry support, which was supposed to be close anyway.
BMP had Malyutka for dealing with armored targets.
I wonder if the Spähpanzer was the inspiration for the later Begleitspanzer, which had a similarly shaped turret, a 57mm autocannon and was based on a Marder hull. The Begleitspanzer was also designed to function as a reconnaissance vehicle. It never went beyond prototype stage and was never further developed.
Kind of an interesting concept, but too weak for anything except air assault support, which it couldn’t do anyway, so a total waste of resources.
I take em! If I take two do I get one free?
ELC AMX, but for Germans! And still, originally French 🇫🇷🇫🇷🇫🇷
7:40 I can only see 4 periscopes. I'm not sure.
the other one is on the other side stupid
Kraut Scout... LOL!
ikr
StuH 43 was better
It look like a wiesel
Why over complicate things and just have a breach loading gun. Its too small to waste space on a special loading mechanism.
Instead of super bloated useless tank destroyers like JagdTiger, Germans now opted for super shrunk useless tank destroyers like SP1C.
Yeah being racist is pretty funny a
The real Ratte