NEW Undefeated Hercules Impact Driver vs. Milwaukee GEN 4!
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- čas přidán 27. 01. 2023
- NEW Undefeated Hercules Impact Driver vs. Milwaukee GEN 4!
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Yeah...that 5 year no questions asked store warranty is great too.
Hercules on point right now damn
Don’t matter. For longevity you need Dewalt or Milwaukee tools. Not enough dealers for Hercules
@@JoshuaOverman5 year warranty disagrees.
@@JoshuaOvermanlmfao, neither brand is lasting 5 years before replacement. Mine breaks, just go to harbor freight and get a new one with no questions asked. Now try that with yellow or red.
@@JoshuaOvermanare you slow or just trolling?
@@JoshuaOvermanRight only Harbor freight that's nationwide. Just like it is at any other than home depot menards lowes.
But Hey, if you're worried about it, buy 2 and still save money.
My body is ready. Give me Hercules!
That's what my exwife said.....
Whoa
Flex go head to head with the Hercules
Except in price 😊
@@SheddysGamingyou’re getting a far superior tool I got a herc drill and driver and both triggers would intermittently cut out under load I took them back and got a new set and same thing… they’re cheaper for a reason..
@@SheddysGamingyeah and except the quality there’s a reason you don’t see herules out on job sights they won’t last longer then 2-3 months but they’re awesome for diyers
@@cappalott6646I've used Hercules in an auto repair shop for about a year now. They've been flawless so far.
I want to see the Hercules after 1 year in a diesel shop working on tractor trailers.
I spent 40 bucks on my herk drill it got abused for 2 years in a machine shop there stout tools
Right.
i mean with 5 year warranty even if you get a couple years out of it for $70 its hard to pass up and im a milwaukee guy
Yeah...i hear you on that one. The milwaukees would stand extreme abuse 10 years ago back in the days before brushless. Todays super duper brushless fuel stuff does not seem to have quite the same level of quality built in. I've had 3 of my saws fail and had to be sent in to be fixed. The m12 multi tool took over 3 months. Also have had several batteries with dead cells after very few uses. In the old days this would be unthinkable. In fact my 10 year old driver drill and impacter are still operating and never needed repair. And the 1.5ah batteries and extended run 3.0ah batteries are still going after a ton of recharges having used them dailey in a hydraulic fabrication shop.
New from anyone these days is not what it could be.
I'm willing to bet all of these new tools are super similar in the inside and will last around the same time as the warranty lists. This told is warranted for at least 5 years no questions asked. You can walk into any Harbor Freight, show your receipt and walk out with a replacement in seconds. Can't do that with Milwaukee unfortunately. You can do it with Ridgid at a Home Depot BUT setting up their warranty is another can of worms. Once set you're good for lifetime. I think that's what you're paying for nowadays... Anyone can sell you a tool... What's your experience going to be like after you've used it and run into a real world problem? That's where the payoff exists. As long as HF backs up these tools, I'll buy them. They all work the same anyway 👍🏾
(Coming from someone who owns Milwaukee Gen 3 M18, Ridgid Max Output Impact Driver and now this new Hercules 😎)
Own the Hercules impact driver, hammer drill, and stick light use them everyday as a building maintenance man. Very good tools with lots of power and excellent build quality absolutely no complaints here. Everyone that uses them is impressed with the balance and power of the drill and driver,the stick light is extremely handy as well. Plan on adding several more Hercules tools as well.
My buddy just started as an apprentice electrician for the contractor I work for and he went with the new brushless Hercules line. He got 4 5Ah batteries and Black Friday I guess had a deal where every 2 5Ah batteries you buy you get a free tool. He got the impact and the drill for free, and they’re immaculate. They contend with my gen 3 Milwaukee all day, I’d definitely recommend Hercules to anyone starting a job that requires reliable tools.
Cant wait for Herc to come out with a 12v line , that will be EPIC 🤷🏻♂️
they have a couple
Hercules is standing up to his name is being Hercules Greek god. 🤷♂️
It's like the red ribbon army lost when Goku showed up. 🤣
Naw that battery he used with milwaukee is way outdated. A high output 3.0 would probably do better
@lizardking595 maybe so, but that being said price to ratio you can't disagree you're gonna get better value than the milwaukee. Hercules is punching WAY ABOVE its weight class
Red army loses to Harbor freight 🤣🤣, I love it.
Yeah, until now, Harbor Freight sold absolute garbage. 🤣🙃
This product might just be an exception to that rule.
@@MrCaribe65 it wouldn't matter to me! Flex, Kobalt, Milwaukee, Ridgid, Makita XDT-16 & XDT-19, Metabo HPT triple hammer, and the new Dewalt's dcf845 XR along with this new Hercules 20V brushless impact driver are all Made in Chynnaaaa! 🇨🇳 so they're all Garbage! Trash! 🤣🤣🤣
@Little Cedar
Everything, is made in China, bud. 😉
Both come from the same factory
@@xtiantab nope! You're wrong. Milwaukee is TTI corporation same as Ryobi and Ridgid they're all made in the same factory in Chynnaaaa! The Harbor Freight tools Hercules and Bauer brand yes they are made in the same Factory 🏭 that makes crap tools for harbor freight and still made in the same country, made in Chynnaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa!!!!!!
Hercules onto something for sure
I have a sneaky suspicion that this is a TTI product in disguise! Lol
No it’s literally a dewalt
So many similar parts everywhere
They are made by a Chinese company YAT tools. I know because I opened mine and it says it on the PCB. YAT tools sells the same impact but I can’t find any in USA.
They may have sold them the rights to copy it but made by yak yak yum yum company in china. Its stupidly close to the milwaukee in shape and appearance.
@@Vinnyfromlv that’s just the PCB ….. it’s a dewalt look at the batteries and shape of it All
I'm glad I bought into the Hercules line.
How are they holding up and what do you do for work?
@tylerdurden7869 I do home remodeling, (complete gut jobs. and they are holding up well. I had a the first brushed drill give out, but all the brushless stuff is still rocking and rolling.
5 year warranty is nice but how long will hf carry hercules tools?
Probably longer than you live
I don't see them going anywhere any tine soon
If I had a quarter for every time someone told me that a HF tool line would be supported for years and then HF pulled that brand from the store. I'd have at least 10 dollars.
They have for quite some time now
Just bought the Hercules. Love it and quality is top notch
Thinking dominant hand did give a slight advantage. Looked like the Milwaukee won the first one by a tad, but the lag amplified the results. Either way they both looked good to me
Yeah but considering the significant price difference, it really shouldn't be this close. Especially once you start adding in batteries.
“That’s Phil’s boy!” ☝🏻 ⭐️
Modern tool reviews have become torture tests. These tests have forced manufacturers to constantly improve their tools. This is like the muscle car era of the 1960's--no amount of power is enough.
I bought a Milwaukee M18 Fuel brushless 3/8 impact and it has a nut busting torque if 650 ft-lbs and a tightening torque of 500 ft-lbs. Needed an Impact driver but didn’t want to spend over $130 due to me spending over $800 in tools last week. Purchased the Hercules 20V Brushless 1/4 inch impact driver and I’m ready to try it out at work!
These comments are nothing but Milwaukee guys arguing with guys that cant afford slightly above average cost tools and its hilarious.
Sounds like you're thinking goes right along with a name you post on here.
Which Milwaukee guys? The ones who get their tools stolen off their trucks all the time, or the DIY homeowners who pay too much for tools they don't need, so they can pretend like they actually work for a living?
Being able to afford something and making smart choices are 2 very different things.
Hopefully HF gets in a bunch next week I got 6 impacts and one it Flex but I'm going to Run the flex with the 3.5 and 6 Stacked Lithium and the HERCULES with the 4 and 8 AMP 21700 Cells
How do they compare?
Might as well run the 12Ah Hercules batteries. They're dirt cheap for what they are.
Wonder how close it would be if you used the 4ah extreme battery since it's 21700 cells vs that 5ah with 18650 cells.
I wonder how close it would be with both running their 12Ah batteries. Of course, the Hercules 12Ah only costs $130, compared to Milwaukee's at $250. At that point, you might as well get the Hercules impact driver for $100 and _two_ 12Ah batteries for $260. That's only $360. The Milwaukee is $150, so with just _one_ 12Ah battery, that's already $400.
The Hercules is the better deal, no matter how you slice it.
Whoa, this is good news for Hercules… hot damn
Hercules stepped their game up. I wonder how it holds up in the long run.
Definitely this test is great, hopefully if my local HF has in stock I’ll get the Hercules today, I have the Milwaukee one which I purchased with the hammer drill combo but I will return to HD
They’ll be available in-store and online early 2/23
I'm pretty sure they're the same impact driver, they're both TTI like the Hercules High Torque and Ultra Torque. The new brushless drills also look extremely similar to the milwaukee drills
No they are not
Hercules could be those tools you give to your son or wife so they can have a tool to work with whenever you’re not around
I just bought the Hercules and so far I love it
nice, but power is not the most important feature of impact drivers, that is why makita is the champ imho
@DJLEO cringe L take. Also liking your own comment, pathetic
I used to install overhead doors using Makita impacts that were like 15 years old and they did great
Damnnnn broooo now do high output!
I have both and I really like the Hercules line up of tools
Cool ... Unfortunately Hercules doesn't have any cool tools just a couple basics but it great deal if the pockets are empty
Great comparison with the particle boards. Nobody can cry about knots or anything like that.
Keep these review’s coming!
Still will buy milwaukee, it's just a solid build and proven to withstand hardship.
@DJLEO
They all have it.
5 year warranty on the hercules, not bad for a $70 tool.
@@MrCaribe65 Hercules does not have battery slop😂 in fact it’s the complete opposite, they’re hard asf to plug into a battery slot and the tool itself. Plug in a 20v 4.0-12.0 amp hour Hercules battery into a charger and tell me it has slop.
@DJLEO and 3 1/2 months at milwaukee before its returned fixed...(m12 multi tool).
@@chrisjones6002 not bad if you're taking your chances without buy the extended warrany. I read the PDF terms and conditions on that 5 year. It gets sent off to somewhere. Not automatically replaced on the spot. I wouldn't be surprised to hear horror stories of 6 months turnaround times. If harbor freight still sells the no questions asked/one replacement warranty like they do on other items that would be much better than it being sent off.
Makitta vs. Hercules next?
I'm a milwaukee guy. I absolutely love it when companies are in heated competition. Only good things can happen. But Milwaukee should be ashamed lol.
Tools are so comparable these days it comes down to only 2 things.. what did you start with? And what additional accessories do they offer in that battery pack?
Price doesn't matter when your garage is already full of one lineup.
Video starts with the 21700 battery on hercules, switches back to regular, then shows it again at the end. Obviously the tests seemed to use the regular but 🤷🏻♂️
The edit brought that 4Ah battery into the picture because I was getting ready for the DeWALT XR Comparison video at the same time. Changed the battery back to the 5Ah when I caught it before I did the actual test.
I agree. Something fishy forsure 😂 its not like you film multiple videos out of order at the same time, ie using one tool brand, like milwaukee vs dewalt, then switch to milwaukee and makita then go back to milwaukee and dewalt. You film the video all at once with the same tools then move onto the next, dont see how he would even have to switch up the batteries in the first place as hes comparing 1/4 impacts only. Not the drill, impact, saw, etc where it might take moving batteries around
The Hercules is the same exact tool as the Milwaukee gen 3 internally. Craftsmen did the same exact thing with the CMCF 1/2" copying Dewalts dcf899 1/2" impact wrench.
Except *Craftsman and Dewalt are both SBD brands, so it is the same company releasing 2 versions of a very similar tool. So "copying" is a term I'd use more for the Hercules, if true.
@@ccbowers that's correct but the Hercules and Milwaukee are both built in Shanghai/Hong Kong in China at the same plants with more or less the same internals. I'm trying to find the patent on the Hercules but no luck yet. Even though Harbor Freight isn't owned by TTI they're both Farmed out to the same company who makes 95% of major power tools aside from Hilti, Fein and Makita who have their own private operations all within in the industrial park in Shanghai but based in Hong Kong. Makita does import all of their own parts and components from Japan to China for assembling to keep costs down. Kind of like how Hikoki Japan imports its components to the US for the Metabo HPT brand without the same profit. This is how Milwaukee cranks out a new tool every week it seems because Techtronic TTI has a manufacturing scale and culture in china that just isn't possible in the US so every part of Milwaukee, Ryobi and many many more are made directly in China this way. In layman's terms if a power tool doesn't own themselves they aren't building there own parts/components so you'll see many copies or clones.
Same exact tool as the gen 3 internally…. Did you help with the manufacturing??
@@mannyfresh8504 Ah, no this tool was designed by Micheal Matteo and this isn't the first time that Harbor Freight LLC has ignored international patent infringement through the Hercules brand. If you look you'll see that the Hercules HC91k1 is exactly the same as Dewalt's DCD780CZ in the past. The earth quake xt was also a direct clone of the Milwaukee Fuel 2863 1/2" impact wrench made in the same exact facility by the same exact people, with the same internals and same battery cells just being sold under different names at different price points. The patents on these tools are held by a man in Taiwan. Like I said before TTI/ Milwaukee don't OEM anything themselves. The only tool companies who do that still are Hilti, Makita, Fein and maybe festool but I'm not 100% sure about Festool.
@@clarkfos3447 🤐 well ok then. My bad. 😅
Buy what you like guys enough of this who’s the best
Put in a high output battery in the Milwaukee and it will be faster.
If all you need is a one impact and a drill go with Hercules. If you need all the fixins go with a line like Milwaukee.
Honestly think Hercules is going to take over, it’s gotta tie with craftsman, kobalt, or ryobi, I know ryobi is hit or miss, but still, if they have consistent quality they’ll easily beat ryobi. Especially if they expand their tool options
If your wife had to hear why u overpay for Milwaukee u better hide the vid. Don’t talk about the vid if anywhere close to any smart devices as the tech will recommend it to your wife
I also just started buying Hercules rather than Ego or Milwaukee or Dewalt. Mainly because of AVAILABILITY in store plus the Price Power and Durability and reputation reviews and can't beat their Harbor Freight warranty either.
So just bought the compact blower and 1/2 gallon compact vacuum as a Truck driver these fit in my luggage when traveling. No more needing to buy tools again or leaving behind etc.
I work construction. Ive had my Hercules for 4 years and still runs like a champ. I bought it initially just to start off with, but with all the hell ive put it through. I just bought the new brushless with warranty and am completely pleased with the durability and performance.
Hercules got the same longevity and durability as a Milwaukee?
I believe so but I’m going to demonstrate whether it does or not soon.
Hercules Milwakuee Killer 💪
milwakuee fanboys are sad xD
So sad when I strap a 6.0 on it and clown the herc😂
@@Dexter_Solid I know that if I plug an 8ah into Herculese, it will break the milwake into its molecules.😁😁
I love the Hercules. Upgraded my Ryobi to Hercules slowly and after a great warranty experience at HF I’m all in.
herculese rn has a sale going on, get the battary and charger for 106$ and you can get that or a selection of other tools.
I asked to replace my drill (still worked fine the chuck just made and awful sound when tightening or loosening it) without question found the purchase on my account with em and warrantied a new one. Didnt even ask what was wrong with it.
@Mastering Mayhem, hey man! That's exactly what I'm looking for! And exactly what I wanted to see! Thank you for making them EVEN, FAIR and SQUARE! Milwaukee Gen4 with standard 18650 5Ah VS Hercules Brushless impact driver with Standard 18650 cell 5Ah battery pack they're both great! it's a draw! A lot of Reviewers on CZcams are so Biased and Unfair everytime they compare the Milwaukee Gen4 or gen3 loaded with High Output 21700 6Ah battery so of course the other tool will get destroyed. But you, you made it Even and Fair! Thumbs up! 😁👍
No problem. I'll continue to make them as fair as possible however I am able. As I collect more power tools and every variety of battery for each brand I'll be able to keep making fair videos. Stay tuned, more testing equipment coming ASAP. I appreciate the support.
@@MasteringMayhem more power 🔌⚡to you! 😁👍
Milwaukee isn't the dominant brand it once was, even though some certain channels continue to try and put them on top in pretty much every category and tool, make a person think about their getting kickbacks, I'm so glad there's people like yourself doing fair unbiased challenges thank you
All milwaukee had on top was an impact driver that beat others by 0.3 and fried itself...lol. when the Hercules started beating the Milwaukee other videos started magically appearing with reversed results lol
In all honesty harbor freight tools are good enough for DIY people especially with the warranty but when you rely on them for a living and when you’re up in a bucket or on a roof or just anywhere inconvenient you need something you can rely on a little more.
Use mine every day no problem
If you're worried about it, just buy 2 and still have change left over.
Used the impact on my 2500 silverado wheels and calipers
Wooow zipped rusted stuff off like butter
I’m not a huge Harbor Freight fan, but I’ve heard they’re really good about honoring their warranty.
The Hercules is also only $97 with a two amp battery and a charger.
Yea, if all i needed was an impact, maybe. But what about the other 150+ tools in the M18 line-up?
I’m literally shocked it did that good , my question would be how long it would last in professional settings
Not a hercules only kind of person, as I have milwaukee, makita a dewalt as well, but even my brushed hercules stuff lasts okay, I have the 2.5 gallon wet dry and have beat the heck out of it, as it is my go to vaccum. And yes, I am a professional contractor. So I would suspect it would last fine, and the warranty is on par with milwaukees so I suspect it would last at least as long as the warranty.
Edit: that being said, I'm pleasantly surprised as well, I clicked on this video expecting the milwaukee to put another tool in its place.
I think it would do just fine. HF has a 5 yr warranty on those and in-store replacement
Are you a tradesman or entertainer? Looking forward to seeing the “after 6 months of hard use” side by side.
Which one will still work just like brand new after a year or 2
I'm shocked this is the first time Milwaukee has tied or lost and I haven't seen a bunch of Milwaukee guys saying it was rigged. When flex came out dominating they had every excuse in the book
Well! I've seen Milwaukee lost many many times! 🤣 So seeing Milwaukee losing is not new to me. I love it when Milwaukee is losing! 🤣 Who would have thought that Milwaukee has been the king for many many years decades and decades in the throne and now Milwaukee is being dethroned
@@littlecedar3425 I wasn't saying that this is the first time Milwaukee has lost I was saying this is the first time I haven't seen Milwaukee fans accusing the video creator of cheating when Milwaukee loses. When flex came out and was beating Milwaukee they were saying every excuse in the book
@@Zakh0704 🤣 whatever you say man! Milwaukee Lost! And it's now Milwaukee's turn to become the underdog, well actually it's now Milwaukee's turn to sleep under the dog! 🐕🤣 Lol! 🤣
@@littlecedar3425 under the dog...with all those dog pecker gnats flying around down there....not good.😁
Those are blind fanboys...
I’d say Hercules won that, chuck a 6ah Ho on the Milwaukee n if hercules offers a high performance battery do the same. I personally use nothing but the ho 3ah on my gear so good to see.
I bought a 2 pack of those 3.0ah HO batteries. Those are phenomenal batteries. Sure surprised the heck out of me both in powering the tool and in runtime. I suspect those 3.0s are made a little better than the rest of their battery lineup.
Wow impressed by Hercules way to go!! I wonder if the HO battery would have made a difference on the M18, but wow I didn’t think it would have a chance
I bet the performance batteries for both liens would make a difference. They should run both with their respective 12Ah batteries.
Maybe one day the new Hercules will hit the stores before we all die of old age lol
Ask the manager at your store.. many stores already have them, just not supposed to sell until a certain date I think. But sometimes if you ask nicely..
@@zachbaker9310 yeah I saw them today actually…. I just can’t buy one yet lol
That works but in reality im throwing that new m18 forge battery on and it will out perform with similar weight plus that little difference isn't worth switching platforms
Was the second one and impact wrench?
High output were it at?
I’ll do those in upcoming videos. Right now, just making them as equal as possible.
I never see long term reviews on the batteries. 20v for how long, really. Batteries are where the real money is spent.
Hercules has the best 1/4 impact and 1/2 drills on the market currently. You can find adapters to run them with other batteries too.
But why would you? The Hercules batteries are crazy cheap. I'm seriously considering expanding into the Hercules line and if I do, I'm not gonna bother buying anything smaller than their 8Ah batteries.
@@TheCharleseye I have a ton of yellow batteries. Most folks looking at these have other batteries already
Surprising since the Milwaukee has 2,000 inch pounds of torque.
I work at harbor freight. The Hercules tools were designed by engineers who designed dewalt and Milwaukee products so its performance doesn’t surprise me
It’s natural to put more pressure on the drill with your more dominate hand. The comparison is not fair.
WOW! Have you done flex yet?
I have. Posting it soon
@@MasteringMayhem looking forward to it. If you run the stacked lithium I really cant see the Hercules beating it but seeing the Milwaukee results I think it could be close with the regular flex 5.0
@@MasteringMayhemА что это за бренд,так милку наконец натянул?
Он профессиональный?И где можно посмотреть его характеристики?,спасибо
But can you drop the Hercules off a roof without worries?
Can’t do it with milwaukee! Dropped mine 7’ and shattered like an egg 🥚 😂
@@SkilledLabor huh... I'm throwing mine off roofs all the time ( roofer). Never had a problem.. land it on its side maybe
@@bquade70 wish I could say the same lol. Hercules def won’t make the fall tho
@@bquade70 and mine landed on its side and cracked from base up, disconnected with all wires hangin. Pretty disappointing. Concrete but Not even a high drop by any means.
I try to get mine landing somewhere softly, doesn't always happen.... My old Makitas with the 9.6 used to hold up well also. Not the new ones
Now do it while the drills are a year old from heavy use.
Who makes Hercules?
Harbor Freight
He tried to let the red one win though...lol
Wild stuff. The freight has come up seriously as of recent.
I'm sorry but I've got both and they have about the same power. I like the Hercules because the angled head, the lights are brighter and the batteries are a lot better. The Milwaukee batteries are more plastic compared to the Hercules extended performance
Thank you for the comparison Steve. Which one do you like better and prefer using?
That’s crazy honestly. Harbor freight tools are sleepers brah. What the heck…
This is cool for the knowledge to buy something cheaper which you’re helping there sales drastically probably but they will get greedy and mark it up like all other brands
Test the Ingersoll Rand 1/4 impact..can't find any good videos on it.
I wish Milwaukee wouldn’t have reduced the power from the gen 3 damnit people shouldn’t have showed how much power was actually there making impact wrenches out of the drivers. Also might as well throw a HO 6 or 8 ah on there.
Now do Snap On- show how overpriced and underperforming they are.
M18 is the Benchmark still my number one
Greets from Germany
but whos gonna just buy a whole new brand when you already got milwaukee batteries
Who ever buys any of those two is a chicom lover 😂😂😂
Do another test with the red in your dominant hand?
I get all my information regarding torque from a more reliable source, than someone who gets kickbacks. 👍🏻
Hercules went up on price used to be 50 bucks or cheaper they realized how much of a gem it was
It's a Milwaukee knockoff lol
That “it’s pretty obvious” didn’t sound too confident, my friend.
Torque test Chanel ftw if you ask me 😂
Hey, are the boards level? Doesn't help with the screws bring level otherwise! :) I'd pick Milwaukee anyway. It's a very nice impact driver in every way
you cant see it . if you do some home work you will find out there are the exact same tool and built made by TTI the Hercules was contracted by TTI and the paid a petty penny for this but not to worry later this year Milwaukee is putting out there Fuel MAX impact
you want some thoughts?.... Milwaukee is not going to win every single challenge against every single tool every single time.... but more importantly, do a durability test and see if Hercules can keep up.... because I guarantee you it won't
I want to see all of there new tool 1handed recip.
Right angle drill.
Angle grinder.
Saws.
They have stepped up and delivered in the batteries & brushless motors & 5 year warranty.
Will this change the tire on my suburban, rain or shine?? That's ultimately what I want to know. Yes, I understand. You should probably buy an impact wrench for that, but let's say that I want a driver that will also take my lug nuts off and put them back on again.
Why is nobody pointing out the chrome sockets
Hercules kit that comes with batt and charger comes with a free battery right now for $97!!