1955 | Grace Kelly Defeats Judy Garland for Best Actress

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  • @c.c.l.9139
    @c.c.l.9139 Před 5 lety +2810

    Is almost as if abusing and exploiting a child will cause them to grow up to be deeply scarred and unable to cope.

    • @brahimbenhida6063
      @brahimbenhida6063 Před 5 lety

      O

    • @Gobbersmack
      @Gobbersmack Před 5 lety +11

      naah

    • @zkxnkj534
      @zkxnkj534 Před 5 lety +18

      moreover she was a MK Ultra victim. people should really look this thing up and realize how messed up Hollywood truly is

    • @felixcat4346
      @felixcat4346 Před 5 lety +4

      You ask a very good question. It's asked in kind of a dumb way because its not put as a question.

    • @zkxnkj534
      @zkxnkj534 Před 5 lety +34

      @@felixcat4346 it is a rhetorical question.

  • @missybarbour6885
    @missybarbour6885 Před 5 lety +2547

    Directors: (Give Judy pills to make her work)
    Judy: (Can't work because of a pill addiction)
    Directors: Well, she's just the worst

    • @CMHism
      @CMHism Před 5 lety +157

      Missy Barbour Hollywood should be ashamed of themselves for what they did to Judy and other stars.

    • @ton4encento
      @ton4encento Před 5 lety +23

      Your comment reminded me of Valley of the Dolls so much

    • @CanadianMonarchist
      @CanadianMonarchist Před 5 lety +40

      According to Ann Miller, who knew both Louis B. Mayer and Judy Garland well, it was Ethel Gumm, Judy's mother, who got her hooked on pills.

    • @joey1723
      @joey1723 Před 4 lety +12

      @@ton4encento So true! I heard that Neely's character was partly based on Garland

    • @karenbaumgartel6077
      @karenbaumgartel6077 Před 4 lety +24

      Canadian Monarchist 1992 your comment rings true. I remember reading a biography of her years ago, and I recall that her mother was one of the people who pushed her so much, didn‘t allow her to be a child and a human being. Though, the studios were brutally controlling at that time too, and I am certain that they played a huge part in the sufferings of her unhappy life. There are some interesting interviews of her other daughter too, younger than Liza, but I forget her name. She says Judy wasn‘t so unhappy, but just wan‘t a grown up and didn‘t know how to be one.

  • @popazz1
    @popazz1 Před 6 lety +2046

    The industry chewed up Garland and spat her out without any consideration for her well being, both physically and emotionally. All they're concerned with is bankability. Uppers, downers, severe diet regimes and a total disregard for her as a human. 'A Star Is Born' with Garland as Vicki Lester was stunning and definitely worthy of an Oscar. Her line, " Hello everybody, this is Mrs. Norman Maine ", could reduce grown men to tears. It'll be interesting to see how Lady Ga-Ga fairs in this recent remake.

    • @Linda-iw7bk
      @Linda-iw7bk Před 6 lety +19

      What they did to Judy seems much worse than the pill, she was an MKUltra victim. Look up the satanic way The Wizard of Oz is used.

    • @RiordanLadyGaga
      @RiordanLadyGaga Před 5 lety +59

      Lady Gaga did fucking amazing! And paid tribute to Garland at the beginning of the film too, as she sung a bit of Somewhere Over The Rainbow.
      Go watch the new ASIB in cinemas, it’s breath taking

    • @LouisFGraham
      @LouisFGraham Před 5 lety +2

      The industry is not responsible for your health. They make money and movies that's it. Take responsibility for your own health.

    • @popazz1
      @popazz1 Před 5 lety +115

      LoisFGraham ..... So when the studio whom Garland was under contract to as a 'child star' decided she needed to lose weight and pumped her full of diet pills, and gave her uppers and downers to cope with punishingly long days of filming they weren't responsible for her health/mental issues? She was a CHILD, a child who was under the control of studio bosses, just how was she able to be responsible for her own well being when she was basically a junkie by the time she was a teenager?

    • @LouisFGraham
      @LouisFGraham Před 5 lety +2

      JohnPaul Dixon yep, she didnt have to take pills. They were offered to her and she accepted. Then blaming others for her addiction.

  • @lc6067
    @lc6067 Před 4 lety +283

    Screw the Academy. As Frank Sinatra once famously said - “We’ll all be forgotten someday. But not Judy. Never Judy.”

    • @akrenwinkle
      @akrenwinkle Před 2 lety +4

      One of the internet's sillier "quotes." Frank certainly didn't think he'd be forgotten.

    • @markwhitman9029
      @markwhitman9029 Před rokem +10

      Even the great Bette Davis said on a Dick Cavett show that " a talent like Miss Garland doesn't come along very often it was a tragedy "

    • @markwhitman9029
      @markwhitman9029 Před rokem +4

      @@akrenwinkle why silly? Judy isn't forgotten but he is slowly being forgotten even though he was good. Judy is still Dorothy don't forget

    • @akrenwinkle
      @akrenwinkle Před rokem

      @@markwhitman9029 My comment wasn't about what I thought, it's about Frank. Frank was the last person in the world who would think he would be forgotten. He was not known to have a tiny ego. If you ever want to know if any quote is authentic, find out who said it to whom, where, and when. The quote is bogus, out of nowhere, no corroboration.

    • @markwhitman9029
      @markwhitman9029 Před rokem +1

      @@akrenwinkle perhaps you are correct because he did have a big ego but he was also complimenting his great friend Judy who at one time he considered marrying

  • @JDaua
    @JDaua Před 6 lety +545

    I think what also helped Grace Kelly was that the post war New Look by Christian Dior was made for someone like her. It's a pity that Hollywood kept pitting "glamorous" and "talented" women against each other. both are great actresses.

    • @TheSongwritingCat
      @TheSongwritingCat Před 4 lety +19

      So true. I think glamorous actresses and those with less versatility but the perfect look or demeanor for specific roles have their place. As do actresses who can shapeshift and display greater emotional depth and vulnerability. It just depends what the role demands.

    • @lovinliverpool
      @lovinliverpool Před 4 lety +25

      And hey they still do it. You can see right in this comment section people are pitting these two women against each other. Tear one down to prop another one up. Isn't that how it's always been for women. Funny thing is that us women do it to each other. I mean women in this comment section are disrespecting Grace Kelly to bring Judy Garland up. It's pathetic.

    • @andreabennington
      @andreabennington Před 2 lety +8

      Judy Garland once said in a interview, “It’s Always better to be a first-rate version of yourself, instead of a second-rate version of somebody else.” How right she is! She certainly lived this quote until the end.

    • @cinematicworldofbenji9311
      @cinematicworldofbenji9311 Před rokem +1

      It’s pretty privilege, man. Not saying that Judy wasn’t and not knocking Grace, but unfortunately when I mean pretty privilege, I mean when only the glamour and model looking women unfortunately get the recognition and unfortunately, that has also been the case. I think both were great actresses in their heyday, but fuck the Oscars. They don’t know what makes high quality filmmaking, they only cater for what they want to see. It’s BS.

    • @milky_quartz
      @milky_quartz Před 2 měsíci +1

      and side inquiry; how did those new look off shoulder top sleeves never slide down off the shoulders? 😭

  • @andraste6746
    @andraste6746 Před 5 lety +866

    Judy Garland’s story was just tragic. So much talent. I don’t think Grace Kelly was in her league but I adore her in Rear Window-she is really good in that part and obviously the costuming for her was stunning.

    • @cruzvaldes5922
      @cruzvaldes5922 Před 5 lety +35

      Are you crazy ?! Grace Kelly is everything still is to this day she's the template for every style we see today, she was a trained actress professional to a tee! And all class not one actress before or after her could match anything she did her integrity and dignity!

    • @lindenstromberg6859
      @lindenstromberg6859 Před 5 lety +47

      @@cruzvaldes5922 I agree, Grace Kelly is easily one of the greatest actresses of all time. A shame her career was cut a little short because of... you know... becoming royalty.

    • @edwardfreda3335
      @edwardfreda3335 Před 5 lety +13

      3x, IMO Grace Kelly was the greatest actress of all time and her acting in rear window is timeless. If she wasn't stolen by a prince and forced to quit acting, everyone else would feel the same name.

    • @DandyLion662a
      @DandyLion662a Před 5 lety +13

      And don't forget her great performance in Dial M For Murder.

    • @AzulCelesteVlogs
      @AzulCelesteVlogs Před 5 lety +16

      Judy was and icon

  • @_Tizoc_
    @_Tizoc_ Před 6 lety +770

    The conversational tone makes these so easy to listen to and understand - thank you for taking the time to tell these stories to us.

    • @thescribbler6079
      @thescribbler6079 Před 4 lety +1

      Yes thank you

    • @desertrehabpt211
      @desertrehabpt211 Před 4 lety +1

      The notices you mention are all fine and dandy but awards were to be given for the performance in a movie not judged on their private life. MGM was annoyed with Judy. Warner Brothers was following them for whatever. The movie was sabotaged with scene cutting and strangely enough all those cut scenes were misplaced or thrown away, anyway they disappeared. Sorry but this Academy Award presentation was highway robbery. Ha ha on the academy. Grace didn’t take her movie career too seriously. Thought she’d be a good investment huh? Serves you right. Judy May have been troublesome on the shooting schedule start time but she saved so much time on takes. She always gave a stunning performance. She had a way of moving, a rhythm that couldn’t be compared, such a polished and convincing spontaneity that was rare. One doesn’t give that kind of performance because they are on drugs but if they can perform like that in-spite of drugs then they are a talent out of this world. Why do we see so many beloved stars on drugs? Because they were worked so hard in their formative years and studios had to keep them moving and when this schedule persisted in their adult years they had become addicted. If they didn’t take drugs, they were not working as hard as stars like Judy Garland and Mickey Rooney. Kelly never had to work as hard and long hours as Judy. She was not a child star. She had a different childhood and I’m sorry to say but she was not always a very good actress. She had natural beauty, the Hollywood kind but acting wise, nothing that special to send millions of people into orbit over. Judy had more charisma than all of those glamour pusses put together. Now isn’t that what the Oscar is all about.

    • @marybinggeli1748
      @marybinggeli1748 Před 3 lety

      Made it easier to understand why Judy lost to Grace Kelly. Im not as bitter. But still think Judy shou lk d have won.

  • @robertgalbreath6239
    @robertgalbreath6239 Před 6 lety +412

    I studied film at Northwestern University. Your research was excellent. I applaud your brief but accurate nod to Dorothy Dandridge. One minor point regarding Judy: Initially Louis B. Mayer paid for her psychiatry sessions, but later MGM would only "loan" Judy "some" of the money for a psychiatric hospital stay. Nonetheless, your sensitivity, passion, and compassion for this time in movie history shines throughout this vid.

    • @Rakesedan
      @Rakesedan Před 2 lety +3

      Fully agreed, Robert Galbreath; every one of these BeKindRewinds has been stunning, clever, and excellently researched.

    • @markwhitman9029
      @markwhitman9029 Před rokem +1

      Dorothy was excellent in Carmen Jones

  • @MrMd217
    @MrMd217 Před 6 lety +538

    All wonderful actresses, however I think Judy out performed all those great ladies. A star is born was one hell of a movie and Judy was perfection!

    • @sassyd8738
      @sassyd8738 Před 2 lety +1

      exactly when i ready kelly won i said oops they did it again Judy was the winner no doubt

    • @markwhitman9029
      @markwhitman9029 Před rokem +1

      Look at all the thumbs up Judy gets! Is it any wonder?

    • @skyeslaton3435
      @skyeslaton3435 Před 6 měsíci

      I love judy and grace but the oscars are what they are

  • @jaytaylor7740
    @jaytaylor7740 Před 5 lety +48

    The idea that Judy Garland would feel rejected at not having won the Oscar surprises me. I read an article written in 1955 in which the interviewer was with Judy Garland and some friends of hers at a dinner, and when someone told Judy they were sure she'd win the Oscar, she reportedly replied, "I'm not so sure. I'm not the most popular girl in Hollywood right now."
    I imagine when she started out making the film, she was starting out to make a *film*, not to win an Oscar. And then...wow...not only did she end up finding herself nominated, but she was neck and neck with someone else to win. So, why would she think her loss would mean she was being rejected by Hollywood? Weird.
    Thanks for your video; I enjoyed it.

    • @bkrewind
      @bkrewind  Před 5 lety +33

      That makes sense. I also believe she started out to make a film, not necessarily win the Oscar (given that it was more of a comeback vehicle than anything else). However, I think it's fair to feel rejected or at least dejected when hype builds up about a performance and you're repeatedly told something is likely to happen, but it doesn't. Any feelings of rejection were also pretty prescient, since her movie career essentially ended after a star is born, with the important exception of Judgement at Nuremberg. Notable there tho is that she again understood her reputation would ruin her chance at the Oscar and openly spoke about it.

    • @traceylamplugh7727
      @traceylamplugh7727 Před 5 lety +11

      Judy was treated ĺike Marìlyn, too, no respect!!!! Vivien leigh, too no respect for their illnesses!!

  • @brijamesleh
    @brijamesleh Před 4 lety +76

    MGM were disgusting. They force fed her drugs, called herugly and fat, and shattered her soul. She downright deserved that Oscar.

    • @wordforger
      @wordforger Před rokem +3

      Yeah. You FELT her pain in that performance because she absolutely *knew* what it was like.

    • @hawkeyeten2450
      @hawkeyeten2450 Před 10 měsíci +2

      A lot of the studios were awful back then (and still are in many ways), not just MGM. 1940s starlet Joan Leslie (look her up if you've never heard of her) walked away from Warner Bros and even sued to get out of her contract because she was so fed up with being forced to take on childlike-behaving roles even as an adult and being presented in ways that went against her moral convictions (she was a devout Catholic of Irish descent IIRC). She eventually became a freelance actress mostly for the smaller studios like Republic Pictures.

  • @uncletibs
    @uncletibs Před 5 lety +104

    Judy Garland's performance in "Judgement at Nuremberg" is the most moving of her career. No one ever brings that up.

    • @m.syauqiabdurahman2798
      @m.syauqiabdurahman2798 Před 4 lety +6

      But That Snubbed Was Make sense since Rita Moreno Also Do A Good Job In West Side Story As Anita But This Snubbed , We Already Knew Judy Should Won That But Oscar Is Such A Idiot So They Gave It To Grace Kelly Who Her acting in The Country Girl Don't Reached The Same Profennialistic As Judy Garland And Dorothy Dandriedge

    • @roxannesantoro7503
      @roxannesantoro7503 Před 3 lety +9

      @LAGUNABOY, I'm so glad you brought her performance in Judgment. She and Montgomery Clift were fantastic.

    • @TrangPakbaby
      @TrangPakbaby Před 2 lety +5

      She had me in tears in that film. That woman could rip ur heart right out and stomp right on it. Such a talent… I wish she had been given more non singing roles.

    • @HisameArtwork
      @HisameArtwork Před 2 lety +1

      because of YTs terms of service, certain topics can't be brought up because of demonetization. I also avoid saying certain words even if they aren't offensive because I don't want my channel suspended.
      words like s******e when someone is very sad, h*******t for when a certain ethnicity had some "bad luck". The channels that do this get demonetised and survive with Patreon and Nebula. I don't have that support and maybe this channel doesn't either. But this censorship definitely impacts your content, even if you agree with the accepted narrative and say nothing bad.

    • @markwhitman9029
      @markwhitman9029 Před rokem

      Yes excellent

  • @christianschonberger9695
    @christianschonberger9695 Před 3 lety +53

    Makes me want to go back in time and hug Judy. She was the sweetest without a shred of arrogance. Her talent was unbelievable.
    What the heck. People were complaining about her while she was on barbiturates (an extremely dangerous prescription drug causing dependency and unbearable withdrawal symptoms) and alcohol, instead of being concerned and trying to help. What a world we are living in...

  • @phoenixrisingme
    @phoenixrisingme Před 6 lety +191

    Judy was robbed plain and simple. Because she had a reputation for being difficult and also her addictions, Hollywood shunned her.

  • @SmittenKitten.
    @SmittenKitten. Před 5 lety +291

    Wait, wait, wait... Are you saying these awards don't always honor actual talent and might cater to popularity and/or money-makers?!

    • @yogibearpeep8068
      @yogibearpeep8068 Před 5 lety +30

      SmittenKitten and to think that some people act like this is a new thing going on... if anything it’s gotten worse

  • @charlesoshea4803
    @charlesoshea4803 Před 5 lety +34

    Judy singing "The Man Who Got Away" in A Star is Born is magic.

  • @Zva26
    @Zva26 Před 6 lety +348

    Grace Kelly was awesome in "The Country Girl", but Judy Garland truly deserved the Oscar and it's reported that only seven votes separated them. Terrible!

    • @kevlow9494
      @kevlow9494 Před 6 lety +2

      Larry Mitchell
      Wow =O

    • @gauravw6947
      @gauravw6947 Před 6 lety +9

      Larry Mitchell IMO, Kelly got what she deserved.

    • @dueroden
      @dueroden Před 5 lety +34

      There was nothing awesome about Kelly's performance. She simply gave the same pained look throughout the entire movie.

    • @gauravw6947
      @gauravw6947 Před 4 lety +8

      @@oklahomorose Your comment displays your warped mentality.

    • @gendroswito
      @gendroswito Před 4 lety

      @@oklahomorose yeah and Judy fucked many men her entire career since young age. How tragic.

  • @karasays01
    @karasays01 Před 6 lety +54

    Judy was whored out by the industry and never truly appreciated for her talent and gorgeous voice. I hope she knew her worth in the end.

    • @mikek4274
      @mikek4274 Před 4 lety +4

      Great comment & we know her worth. Judy Garland died & went straight to heaven.

    • @DHGlee2013
      @DHGlee2013 Před 4 lety +1

      Judy whored herself out

    • @lulamax7942
      @lulamax7942 Před 3 lety +4

      @@DHGlee2013 how old are you?

  • @WillScarlet16
    @WillScarlet16 Před 4 lety +90

    "Dear Judy - this is the biggest robbery since Brinks."
    - Groucho Marx, 1955.

    • @m.syauqiabdurahman2798
      @m.syauqiabdurahman2798 Před 4 lety +4

      This Snubbed Is The Same Level As When Shakespeare In Love Beat Saving Pirate Ryan Which Is The Best World War 2 Movie

    • @kostajovanovic3711
      @kostajovanovic3711 Před 4 lety

      @@m.syauqiabdurahman2798 spr does not deserve it

    • @m.syauqiabdurahman2798
      @m.syauqiabdurahman2798 Před 4 lety +1

      @@kostajovanovic3711 Spr Never Deserve It Best Pitcure . Actually It Not deserve all the awards .

  • @jjh2456
    @jjh2456 Před 5 lety +187

    Grace Kelly’s work with Hitchcock was legendary.

    • @gendroswito
      @gendroswito Před 4 lety +2

      @@jazzysophie9943 Judy was even worse, she slept with many people since her young age.

    • @stevenguild2707
      @stevenguild2707 Před 4 lety +2

      jt STFU you moron.

    • @janeiwasduncan8463
      @janeiwasduncan8463 Před 4 lety

      Hitchcock liked blonds!!!⭐⭐⭐

    • @choosekindness613
      @choosekindness613 Před 3 lety +21

      @@jazzysophie9943 this is a widespread lie about grace kelly made up by jealous haters. She did not sleep with "everyone" and if she did sleep around ot was no more than anyone else in hollywood.

    • @twomindz79
      @twomindz79 Před 3 lety +3

      @@choosekindness613
      In 1954 she was sleeping with clark cable and David niven.
      She then went to make ' the country girl ' and was open to bill Holden and Bing Crosby.
      That's very promiscuous. Especially for the 50's.

  • @glh2473
    @glh2473 Před 4 lety +40

    I believe that Grace Kelly is an amazing actress, I really enjoy her work in her Hitchcock films as well as the Country Girl, but Judy Garland deserved to win this one.

  • @alexlinhardt9826
    @alexlinhardt9826 Před 5 lety +23

    I had a hard time watching the makeup scene in A Star is Born because I knew how real that was for Judy, and I could tell that she wasn't acting in that scene.

  • @collinsje5
    @collinsje5 Před 5 lety +76

    The studio system blatantly abused actors. Some (Olivia deHaviland, Bette Davis) fought it, but others (Garland) were severely damaged by it. Hollywood politics and personal problems/drama aside, Garland was transcendent in Star is Born and should have won regardless of her history and struggles. That said, this video is incredible, and I learned a LOT watching it.

    • @charlesfosterkane1966
      @charlesfosterkane1966 Před 5 lety +5

      I love Bette Davis. She was a scrapper. They called her Mother Godamn for a reason

    • @KingoftheJuice18
      @KingoftheJuice18 Před 3 lety

      Although it was done as humor, SNL starkly reminded people a couple times about these abuses using Kate McKinnon's character "Debette Goldry." It's very well done. Here's one of them:
      czcams.com/video/Pki_eSxjrGc/video.html

    • @hawkeyeten2450
      @hawkeyeten2450 Před 10 měsíci

      Joan Leslie was another one who fought it, along with Esther Williams to an extent (Williams later in life talked about having to stand up on behalf of her less powerful costars, including threatening a director with getting him removed from one of the films she was starring in). Hollywood in many cases has always been a truly horrible place, from its early days to the present.

  • @andressegui1236
    @andressegui1236 Před 6 lety +888

    Joke's on hollywood cause the rising star married a prince and left hollywood.

    • @jichuulimario2093
      @jichuulimario2093 Před 6 lety +110

      She wasted that award by giving up hollywood, and we all know her husband is no saint either.

    • @musicaltheatergeek79
      @musicaltheatergeek79 Před 6 lety +125

      The greatest social climber since Cinderella!

    • @jonathankieranwriter
      @jonathankieranwriter Před 6 lety +66

      andres segui ... And became an incorrigible, lonely drunk in a dysfunctional marriage in an essentially fake country. Yeah. Ha ha.

    • @paulskyekahawaty6133
      @paulskyekahawaty6133 Před 5 lety +135

      musicaltheatergeek79 Social Climber?! For your information Grace Kelly was born with a silver spoon in her mouth, her father John B. Kelly Sr., was 3 time Olympic gold medalist and owned a lucrative contracting company, so how come she was a social climber?!

    • @paulskyekahawaty6133
      @paulskyekahawaty6133 Před 5 lety +57

      Jichuu Limario She didn't really give up Hollywood, she didn't know, she will no longer be allowed to continue her career once she's married.

  • @vintagesubliminals3398
    @vintagesubliminals3398 Před 6 lety +115

    This video broke my heart...

    • @DHGlee2013
      @DHGlee2013 Před 4 lety

      Because Judy Garland deserves to be burning in hell for being a sore loser?

    • @vintagesubliminals3398
      @vintagesubliminals3398 Před 4 lety +14

      DHGlee2013 where’s this energy coming from? You good?

    • @user-lx7sg8ks7b
      @user-lx7sg8ks7b Před 3 lety +5

      @@DHGlee2013 the only loser here is obviously you. you are so fucking pathetic

  • @Ariane67
    @Ariane67 Před 5 lety +23

    As Groucho Marx so rightly said this was "the biggest robbery in Hollywood history"... Luckily, we, cinema lovers, will always cherish the amazing Judy in her very best performance ever in this absolute masterpiece. Her co-star and friend James Mason called her the best actress with which he ever played : coming from such a great actor, this is a marvellous award, no ?

    • @melisagalvalizi6982
      @melisagalvalizi6982 Před 2 lety +1

      James mason ignored her many years later when they bumped into each other at an airport.

    • @-maxgomez.1134
      @-maxgomez.1134 Před 2 lety

      🖤

    • @markwhitman9029
      @markwhitman9029 Před rokem +1

      Groucho said " the biggest robbery since Brinks" and it was

    • @nellgwenn
      @nellgwenn Před 11 měsíci

      It just occurred to me if they had done the right thing and given Judy the Oscar, Grace may have stayed in Hollywood. She might have said to the Prince of Monaco. I'll marry you, but I'm going to continue to act until I get my Oscar.
      If they had given the Oscar to Judy and Grace remained in Hollywood it could have been Grace in Marnie.
      As a result Tippy Hedren could have been relieved from having to work with Hitchcock again.

  • @Ricky0101
    @Ricky0101 Před 6 lety +239

    I agree with Groucho Marx. Her being robbed of an Oscar was the greatest robbery since Brinks.

  • @seeshel63
    @seeshel63 Před 3 lety +7

    Thank you for explaining this piece of Academy history so clearly. Im a 59 yr old who cyclically watches Judy Garland biopics and movie but I never knew the details of Judy losing/Grace winning until now. It is informative and reassuring.

  • @shelleynobleart
    @shelleynobleart Před 6 lety +22

    I never would have realized the factors involved without this video.

    • @MaryLou913
      @MaryLou913 Před 5 lety +1

      They did Cher like this too!

    • @nambypamby2147
      @nambypamby2147 Před 3 lety

      Don't consider those factors for a second. If one actor performs better an the other, then the better actor wins the Oscar.

  • @ShootMeMovieReviews
    @ShootMeMovieReviews Před 3 lety +36

    It's such a weird thought that Judy would be considered unglamorous. I mean, nobody could fail to recognize it in Kelly, but it's shocking (and pathetic) how many beautiful actresses the studios considered somehow inadequate.

    • @-maxgomez.1134
      @-maxgomez.1134 Před 2 lety

      😔

    • @wordforger
      @wordforger Před rokem +1

      See, it's kind of funny, but Marilyn Monroe was basically just Norma Jean until she put on the attitude.

  • @lavenderamethyst6050
    @lavenderamethyst6050 Před 5 lety +18

    You did a wonderful job here! I’ve been enjoying your videos; I’ve had a hard time lately. I’ve been in grieving, and my job is really rough. I forgot how much movies help me escape and uplift my mood. Your videos have helped!

    • @CCNuck
      @CCNuck Před 4 lety +2

      I hope that you are doing well!

  • @susan945
    @susan945 Před 6 lety +691

    No offense against Grace Kelly, she was a beauty, but through no fault of her own, stole Judy Garland's Oscar, the Oscar that Judy 100% deserved to win. Funny thing is, all this stuff that was being said about how difficult Judy was, her no shows, her times that she held up things because of being sick or tired, her cranky attitude etc...GEEZ, are you for real, all that she was being accused of & what eventually caused MGM to let her go was the exact thing that MGM & her Mother created, the drinking...the pills...the erratic behavior...every bit of it because of the very thing given to her to cause her to be that way! Funny how she was never looked at as a serious actress, yet, they worked her to death with movies, she was a goldmine to MGM & if she had NOT been the wonderful person she was & told MGM to shove it, they would've been up shit creek without a paddle, but in those days, actors/actresses were property & she was too much of a sweetheart to be the B-word that they tried to make her out to be. She was never thought of as pretty, yet her "look" is as unique & alluring today, as it should have been back then, she was beautiful, but unfortunately was never told that by the people she trusted the most. She was used & abused by more people than any one person should ever experience in their lifetime, yet, still today, is 1 of the most memberable & talented people ever to grace Hollywood's doors, they were so lucky to have such a talent, but treated her like dirt under their feet. It's so sad, there will never be another Judy Garland, she was more than this Earth could hold. RIP Judy, you deserved the world at your feet!

    • @vidimur1977
      @vidimur1977 Před 5 lety +10

      Never was Kelly an actress. Judy yes. Sadly, Kelly was a MK ultra servant.

    • @susan945
      @susan945 Před 5 lety +28

      @@vidimur1977 you are correct. Don't get me wrong, I see the allure of Grace Kelly, she was beautiful, she was exactly what Hollywood looked at as the perfect Hollywood image, along with so many others of that time, they all had that striking beauty, that sexiness & glamour & really didn't have to try too hard to have it, they were naturally born that way. But Judy, here comes a girl, that from the start had it rough & no, she wasn't what Hollywood would've called beautiful, sexy or glamorous by any means, but I personally think she was a knockout, her looks were very unique & what she didn't have in sexy glamour, she more than made up for in talent, truly she was a 1 of a kind in what she could do, in spite of everything she had to endure from people she loved & trusted. Yes, she continued to take the drugs, she became a drinker, mixing all the bad with more of the bad, I get that, I get that nobody forced her in the end to do the drugs etc...but, between the drugs, the stress, the "highly suspected" mental health, losing her Father,( the only love & support she ever felt) so young, her Mother being the true B-word...the list goes on...honestly, I'm surprised she lasted in that state & could do the amazing amount of work that she did, as long as she did & have always wished & wondered, how much more she could've graced us with if she had never had the life she had, like I said, she was beyond her time & there will never be another Francis Ethel baby Gumm/Judy Garland ! :)

    • @henryjackson2357
      @henryjackson2357 Před 5 lety +2

      Talented for sure, but Judy was never a beauty. That's one thing the studio sadly had right - she just didn't have the looks or sex appeal for a broad range of roles outside of roles that used her lack of sex appeal as an obvious part of a character.

    • @susan945
      @susan945 Před 5 lety +20

      @@henryjackson2357 I personally think she was, in her early 20's at least. She went through a long awkward stage & was a bit typecast in a way by the wizard of oz, because she just became "dorothy" to so many that it was hard for her to turn around & be thought of as sexy & MGM never helped with the roles she was put in. Unfortunately, the drugs & booze added insult to injury as far as her looks, but, she was quite pretty at one point in her life, at least to me she was. I still love her, always will. :)

    • @brianoyler4777
      @brianoyler4777 Před 5 lety +4

      Susan, Victor Murillo and Henry, Frances Gumm was born in Grand Rapids, MN. I often wonder what kind of life she would have had if she just remained in the Midwest and grew up just as any other Midwestern child. That perhaps would have been the best for her. And who knows, she may have still been living today. When one looks at her films year by year, one can see that she just became better looking as she matured. I do agree that she really looked beautiful in Meet Me In St.Louis, Ziegfeld Follies, Till The Clouds Roll By. Unfortunately, she was not taking very good care of herself due to her addiction, and her beauty was starting to wane by the late forties early fifties. Too bad...she needed to get out of that entire entertainment environment for her own life.

  • @amalHope3
    @amalHope3 Před 3 lety +14

    Both Grace Kelly and Judy Garland are great actresses. RIP

    • @eamonndeane587
      @eamonndeane587 Před 3 lety +1

      It's A tragic Shame that the both of them died in horrific accidents.

  • @amylou22snowhite
    @amylou22snowhite Před 3 lety +7

    The wardrobe in Rear Window gets me every time.

  • @Harringtonml54
    @Harringtonml54 Před 6 lety +24

    The 1964 Best Actress race (winner Julie Andrews for MARY POPPINS vs. non-nominee Audrey Hepburn in MY FAIR LADY) is one of the most interesting and historic races in the entire annals of the Oscars. It deserves attention. Thank you. The other truly amazing competition was in 1962, when Anne Bancroft won for THE MIRACLE WORKER. It was also a race for all seasons. Thank you.

    • @xstanadu
      @xstanadu Před 6 lety +5

      Debbie Reynolds was a Best Actress Nominee for The Unsinkable Molly Brown / competing with Julie Andrews
      I think Debbie Reynolds should have won for a great movie ! ( love Julie Andrews , but she should have won for The Sound of Music ~ just my opinion ⭐️

    • @sweetbitter2
      @sweetbitter2 Před 6 lety +1

      I thank Audrey was nominated

    • @johnsax1445
      @johnsax1445 Před 5 lety +2

      Audrey was NOT Nominated for My Fair Lady

    • @jessewarner7962
      @jessewarner7962 Před 5 lety +3

      Audrey didn’t do her own singing in a MUSICAL. She was dubbed for My Fair Lady. She should not have been nominated. Also, Julie Andrews had the role on Broadway, and should have been cast for the film, except Audrey’s husband was the director!

    • @elsie1327
      @elsie1327 Před 5 lety +2

      Julie deserved that Oscar of Audrey

  • @williamhines3589
    @williamhines3589 Před 6 lety +10

    Thank you for making this! It's so important to piece together the understanding of why Judy lost this Oscar. Lorna Luft's newest book also goes into depth and even mentions Cukor's comments. Very interesting.

  • @danielintheantipodes6741
    @danielintheantipodes6741 Před 5 lety +6

    Judy's story is so sad, and the loss of the Oscar is the least awful thing that happened to her. She should have had a happy life. The MGM executives, above all others Mayer, have a lot to answer for. Personally, I don't think it is fair to adversely critique Grace's win. They were both superb and each of them was worthy. The thing is, it was Judy's last chance and probably people knew that even then. But they were both worthy. Incidentally, I feel that Judy should have received a Supporting Actress Nomination for Judgement at Nuremberg. She was brilliant in that film, also. Thank you for the video.

    • @roycerowland6162
      @roycerowland6162 Před 5 lety +1

      She was nominated for best supporting actress for judgment at numberberg

    • @roycerowland6162
      @roycerowland6162 Před 5 lety +1

      She was nominated for best supporting actress for judgment at numberg

    • @danielintheantipodes6741
      @danielintheantipodes6741 Před 5 lety +1

      @@roycerowland6162 Thank you for the update.

  • @Stupidtacocatstuffgrr
    @Stupidtacocatstuffgrr Před 5 lety +119

    For Judy Garland she was so abused by MGM, her mother was an animal, and the head of the company molested her constantly. She couldn’t do anything and no one was there for her. She was used and abused, and she deserved more.

  • @gregcervantez2828
    @gregcervantez2828 Před 6 lety +5

    Love this presentation! Brings into focus a complex backstory I never even considered in this Oscar upset. Brilliant commentary.

  • @treasuretrovel3816
    @treasuretrovel3816 Před 5 lety +21

    Grace was pretty, men desired her and the men in Hollywood saw dollar signs in their future in the good graces of Grace Kelly and not in any future investment in Judy. How they voted might make the difference in the future in their affiliations with Grace.

  • @rileyrourke7442
    @rileyrourke7442 Před 5 lety +10

    I agree. No matter how amazing and talented i THINK Grace Kelly was you just cant compare to Judy. I think several actors of the time agreed on her magnetic quality.

  • @morrisroberts7877
    @morrisroberts7877 Před 5 lety +37

    Personally, would have loved for Dorothy Dandridge to take this one. I still think she deserves a more detailed profile/review!

    • @illneverbeyourdreamgirl
      @illneverbeyourdreamgirl Před 4 lety +8

      Wish it had been a tie between Dorothy and Judy. Ms. Dandridge was cunningly cutthroat and unapologetically oozed sexuality while Ms. Garland was beautifully vulnerable and delivered a perfect performance. It was a well-known fact that Kelly was willingly peddling herself out from the very beginning and I guess this was her reward for being so, well, available? (I'm not slut-shaming so lemme alone 😅) Yeah, it was a ridiculous thing but then again the Oscars are a joke if you really think about it. The best thing we can do is focus on what we love - like Dorothy and Judy - and ignore what we dislike - like talentless hacks that shall remain nameless 😁

    • @wired4books51
      @wired4books51 Před 4 lety +1

      Dandridge didn’t deserve it that year. She didn’t even do her own singing in Carmen Jones, she was dubbed by the Brilliant Marilyn Horne!

    • @screenactorsguilable
      @screenactorsguilable Před 4 lety +3

      @@wired4books51 yes but come on! show some respect because her life is tragic

    • @princessG313
      @princessG313 Před 2 lety +4

      @@wired4books51 the studio didn’t want to use her or Harry Belafonte voice to sing the songs. Secondly, you must have not seen Carmen Jones because you cannot tell me that Dorothy didn’t deserve to win an Oscar.

  • @lcl122
    @lcl122 Před 5 lety +107

    I hope this won't happen again this year with Glenn Close and Lady Gaga... Close's The Wife is so powerful... Mrs. Close needs to receive FINALLY the credit that she deserves!

    • @lucifer0405
      @lucifer0405 Před 5 lety +7

      While I do Believe Close should've already won an Oscar, I don't think she should next year... In each year that goes on an actor/actress should win for the role they played on that respective year and not for unreceived credit or for being snubbed in the past, and while I give credit to Close for her powerful and charming performance, Lady Gaga gave us such an absolutely OUTSTANDING performance on A Star is Born this year, in case you haven't watched it, I'll put it in perspective... Last year, Lady Gaga gave America the most watched Super Bowl Half-Time Show in history of television and did an amazing job, her performance was credited as Iconic and memorable for ages, while doing so, she then had to act on A Star is Born like she had NEVER seen a stage on her entire life, and she completely nailed it, her vulnerability and raw emotion compared to her more worldly-known persona is what, in my opinion, is more deserving of an Oscar next year than Close's portrayal of a conflicted wife.

    • @lcl122
      @lcl122 Před 5 lety +25

      I already watched A star is born, in fact I watched it first than The Wife... And still think Close is better! My point!

    • @shtl394
      @shtl394 Před 5 lety +4

      @@lucifer0405 Stan

    • @sweetbitter2
      @sweetbitter2 Před 5 lety +10

      @@lucifer0405 you probably are a Gaga fan

    • @Alex-lv7mz
      @Alex-lv7mz Před 5 lety +4

      yes, i hope they finally give glen close the oscar she should've won years ago

  • @outinsider
    @outinsider Před 6 lety +7

    I am glad you are going to explore the entire category- because 1954 Best Actress will always be hard to pick for me. Also, while the history is honest in your exploration, I did "ouch" a few times, but I understand and needed that.

  • @shanemichael9404
    @shanemichael9404 Před rokem +8

    Judy was Judy ! It's hard to find the right words to describe her. She was an unbelievable performer who shined through the darkest clouds and those dark clouds were all around her in the addiction that consumed her. And yet this marvelous actress and singer did her best, and her best in my opinion is untouchable. She was pure talent, and yet when you look at her really good, you can see the damage she's done to herself. And like other opinions I've read, I must agree that Hollywood absolutely did not care about the health of the actors, the strain of performing long hours and so forth. The bottom line was money, which was not only the problem then, it's the problem now, and it's a problem everywhere. We are all familiar with the so called "Judy Garland Tragedy" but despite her problems and failures because of the potent uppers and downers, (amphetamines and barbiturates) that took such a toll on her, she had an uncanny ability to be a perfectionist, and nobody did it better. Judy was pure talent and although scarred by addiction, she shined like no other ! This n is only my opinion, and many not agree with me. And that is okay. We are only sharing our thoughts here. Thank you.

  • @bruh_hahaha
    @bruh_hahaha Před 5 lety +33

    Nothing new. The Academy has a long history of giving the award to the hot ingenues.

    • @jjh2456
      @jjh2456 Před 3 lety +5

      See Gweneth Paltrow.

    • @mikevalenzuela3974
      @mikevalenzuela3974 Před 3 lety

      Jennifer Connelly beating Hellen Mirren.

    • @bruh_hahaha
      @bruh_hahaha Před 3 lety +2

      @@jjh2456 Paltrow got hers by gettin GOOPey with Harvey Weinstein 🤢

  • @davy209
    @davy209 Před 6 lety +51

    Can you do a video on Anne Bancroft’s Oscar win and the controversy behind Joan and Bette?

  • @TheRealLaughingGravy
    @TheRealLaughingGravy Před 5 lety +4

    Geez, I've watched two of your videos and I'm hooked. They're extremely well done - thoughtful, perceptive, serious. And, even better, they're all about their subject, not their presenter.
    Please make more videos like this, and make them more often. Two or three a day would be nice. Thanks so much.

  • @MrHarryBeck
    @MrHarryBeck Před 6 lety +123

    Please do the one when Anne Bancroft won Best Actress against all odds and Bette Davis coldy watched Joan Crawford accepting on her behalf even though Davis was the odds-on favorite.

    • @kazzymoviefan
      @kazzymoviefan Před 6 lety +6

      Why? Just watch Feud.

    • @MrHarryBeck
      @MrHarryBeck Před 6 lety +1

      East Kazz I already have since it came out.

    • @lisacassar7040
      @lisacassar7040 Před 6 lety +1

      crawford showed no class as per usual as long as bette didnt get it total aries!! fire sign .

    • @kazzymoviefan
      @kazzymoviefan Před 6 lety +6

      LISA CASSAR ugh yuck. Can't stand Aries. My luck with most/all of them have been shit. Total psychos and very impulsive, quick to judge, quick to everything. Always perceive their own reality that only works in their minds and not in real life. Next guy I date says he's an Aries, I'm out.

    • @lisacassar7040
      @lisacassar7040 Před 6 lety

      lmbwbo my brother is an aries!!!!

  • @_MSD75_
    @_MSD75_ Před rokem +4

    Watched A Star is Born tonight (again). The production of the film is so stunning and Mason's 'Norman' is devastating, but Garland really is phenomenal in this, a complete tour de force, showing not only her brilliance as a singer and entertainer, but also with her comedic excellence. Yet it is in her emotional scenes later in the film when we see this raw, visceral performance we'd never seen, it is as heartbreaking to watch as it is mesmerising. It is also difficult not to acknowledge her real life struggles when watching this and wonder how much this aided her performance. The very real parallels of the control the studio has over its stars ( I loved it when Norman & Vicki annouce their intent to marry to Oliver and his paused reaction makes Norman exclaim, how he's just taking a moment to think how this will effect the studi) as is well documented with Garland & others, and the fact how so much of the story must have to so very close to bone, to produce a performance like this is even more remarkable and utlimately Oscar worthy.

  • @kitkeller5831
    @kitkeller5831 Před 5 lety +6

    I would have voted for Dorothy Dandridge. Truth be told, I would given Best Actress to Eva Marie Saint for “On the Waterfront,” and Best Supporting Actress to Grace Kelly for “Rear Window,” but they weren’t nominated in those categories. Kelly had so much success so quickly that the Academy could not ignore her.

    • @cdw3497
      @cdw3497 Před 5 lety

      Love this take on the awards race!

  • @813FL80s
    @813FL80s Před 5 lety +15

    Wow as an Oscar and Actress nerd I loved this.

  • @stevetimms4100
    @stevetimms4100 Před 4 lety +3

    You are excellent and engaging, in how you narrate your Videos. You are incredibly articulate and interesting. You bring the 'Stars' and their lives to life. Thank You...

  • @BroadwayDivo
    @BroadwayDivo Před 6 lety +13

    I love this channel and love these retrospectives

  • @vistaestrada
    @vistaestrada Před 6 lety +10

    Thank you for such a perceptive and informative video. I’m looking forward to watching your other videos 👏

  • @marcelltoth3750
    @marcelltoth3750 Před rokem +3

    I so agree about that monologue in A Star Is Born. One of the best acting I've seen.

  • @ellenm3803
    @ellenm3803 Před 5 lety +4

    These mini documentaries are fabulous because you keep to facts and present a balanced argument rather than gossipy point-scoring. Thank you for creating such interesting pieces of history. 💐🙏

  • @jorn3432
    @jorn3432 Před 3 lety +4

    I feel bad for Judy. So talented and was treated terribly by Hollywood. She should've won. I did like Grace. Her Hitchcock movies are my favorite. She was beautiful lady.

  • @michaelprowland
    @michaelprowland Před 5 lety +10

    What’s the background song being played here? Sounds very low fi. I like it.
    Also, great vid. Love the edit with Judy: “No glamour at all”

  • @gracecheri997
    @gracecheri997 Před 6 lety +62

    Judy Garland should have won. Her performance , singing "The Man That Got Away" was magnificent! She made a lot of money for the Studio for many years. Her drug use was encouraged by the Hollywood people to control her weight plus they worked her very hard On the other hand Grace Kelly is flawlessly beautiful and talented, and she came from High Society which impressed the Studio. Judy should have won she was all around talented.

    • @gracecheri997
      @gracecheri997 Před 4 lety +2

      @Ed Miller l appreciate your response. However, she was still considered to be part of the gentry class. Her accent tells it all. She may have not been a Vanderbilt, But She was a cut above many of the working class backgrounds of many of the actors.
      She was very beautiful and elegant.
      People were very impressed with her classy persona. She was beautiful to watch.

    • @m.syauqiabdurahman2798
      @m.syauqiabdurahman2798 Před 4 lety +1

      Also Judy 2nd Snubbed Was Make Sense Since Rita Moreno Does A Good Job As Anita . But The 1st Snubbed Was Supposed To Be Judy Win But Nope .

  • @srdjanbulat5066
    @srdjanbulat5066 Před 6 lety +8

    I've just discovered this channel and binged through it like a crazy person... Just wanted to say - Great work! You have a new subscriber and a fan :)

  • @a.s.alfred9975
    @a.s.alfred9975 Před 4 lety +9

    Renee Zellweger won an Oscar for playing Judy Garland who never won an Oscar despite 2 nominations.

  • @65wiseman
    @65wiseman Před 6 lety +224

    Judy clearly deserved the Oscar over Kelly's only better than average performance. Had she won her deserved Oscar, Judy might have been better able to fight her demons.

    • @jonathankieranwriter
      @jonathankieranwriter Před 6 lety +32

      65wiseman ... All true, but keep in mind that Grace Kelly sailed off into a sunset of a miserable, drunken, dysfunctional marriage soon after winning this undeserved award (she didn’t make any more money for Hollywood after that-surprise, surprise to the execs who thought she’d stay around and make 8 soap opera-type films a year. NOT.)
      Plus, Judy got her revenge on ALL of Hollywood by becoming the biggest all-around entertainer in the world in later years: her television debut in 1955 was the highest rated “special” in the history of TV, up to that time, her deal with Capitol Records produced one of the bestselling albums of the 1950s (Miss Show Business) along with other best-selling, superb albums in subsequent years. She became the highest-paid and most successful entertainer in Vegas, when Vegas was still cool and not cheezy. Then she launched the most successful concert tour in history in late 1960-1961, and her Carnegie Hall performance sealed her immortality (as if it needed sealing). The 2-record album knocked Elvis Presley off the charts and became an American cultural landmark, staying at No. 1 on the Billboard charts for 13 weeks (over 3 MONTHS of the whole year!), stayed on the charts for 95 weeks, and Judy was the first female winner EVER of Grammy Album of the Year, Female Vocalist of the Year, and three other Grammys.
      Her 1961 performance in Judgment at Nuremberg was acclaimed and gained her another Oscar nomination (losing to Rita Morena, whose songs were DUBBED in West Side Story! 🙄 ) and Emmy nominations for her ratings-topping concert special with Frank Sinatra and Dean Martin in 1962.
      Judy already OWNED an Oscar, from 1939, for her work in Wizard of Oz and Babes in Arms-it was awarded specially to her, out of silly competition. They *awarded* it to her alone. She had also won a Tony award for her enormous one-woman Broadway stage triumph in 1951. Grammys.
      But she still deserved the Oscar that year, and it remains one of Hollywood’s biggest screw-ups that she was not given her due.
      And if Hollywood is so STUPID to give the “earnest musical theater wannabe” (Lady Gaga) and Oscar for her first film, when her acting skills haven’t even been tested, we’ll know that Hollywood has even less credibility than it currently claims. Which ain’t much.

    • @65wiseman
      @65wiseman Před 6 lety +7

      Grace Kelly's unhappiness could not compare with Judy's suffering. Its true that she brought a lot of it on herself. Judy never thought of herself as tragic, yet she was tormented. In the end, she may have been her own worst enemy.

    • @kevinlongman007
      @kevinlongman007 Před 6 lety +21

      @@jonathankieranwriter Actually after winning the Oscar in 1955, Grace Kelly was the female lead in 'To Catch A Thief' and 'High Society', which was the one of the highest grossing films in the USA in 1956. So yes she did make Hollywood more money after her Oscar win!! Grace chose not to make anymore films after her wedding to Prince Rainier as she was no longer an actress but a Princess.

    • @cissyiniguez
      @cissyiniguez Před 5 lety +3

      @@jonathankieranwriter It's kind of ridiculous to call an industry stupid when you have no idea what kind of performance Lady Gaga gives. And to call her a musical theater wannabe? I'm not going to do any work for you, but Gaga's Oscars performance of _The Sound of Music_ ...tell me what kind of wannabe can sing like that? And you shouldn't blame Hollywood for Garland's problems. It's her own fault if she wasn't strong enough to say no and weak to want that much attention and seek others approval for her own validation. She chose star over artist. Except in cases of identity theft and random rape & murder, you allow people to use you, quit making excuses.

    • @lpgilber
      @lpgilber Před 5 lety +4

      That’s right. They tried to get Grace to do more movies but her husband and the Monaco people refused.

  • @larrydirtybird
    @larrydirtybird Před 6 lety +46

    I love your commentary. I just watched the one about Bette Davis winning for Dangerous. Great commentary there, too. I subscribed to your channel. I think Grace Kelly's win is similar to Jennifer Lawrence winning for Silver Linings Playbook. The Academy sees the award as an investment in a promising young "it" girl. It doesn't always work out that way-- Julia Roberts in Pretty Woman losing to the (much better) Kathy Bates in Misery comes to mind, but this is generally the theme. And then men are usually rewarded to cap off a long career. Anyhow, I hope you do every Oscar winner. Just about every year has some sort of injustice or head-scratching win.

    • @sweetbitter2
      @sweetbitter2 Před 6 lety +7

      And Julia won over Ellen Burstyn in 2001. Smh

    • @charlesfosterkane1966
      @charlesfosterkane1966 Před 5 lety +6

      @@sweetbitter2 THAT was the second greatest robbery - Burstyn was absolutely unbelievable, her performance hurt my heart. Jesus, she so deserved it.

    • @Kevin-rg3yc
      @Kevin-rg3yc Před 5 lety +5

      They did the same thing two years ago with Emma stone for la la land winning Isabelle hupert and Natalie Portman who both gave better performances

    • @eartianwerewolf
      @eartianwerewolf Před 5 lety +1

      Pretty Woman is a classic tho but damn Misery is good

    • @eartianwerewolf
      @eartianwerewolf Před 5 lety +1

      @@Kevin-rg3yc musicals often get awards they dun deserve

  • @daviedmond4639
    @daviedmond4639 Před 5 lety +19

    you did a great job on this piece.

  • @rbfrondoso320
    @rbfrondoso320 Před 6 lety +11

    Thank you for making this! I still believe Judy should have won an Oscar, if not for A Star is Bor n.

  • @emacias1473
    @emacias1473 Před 4 lety +5

    Judy Garland story always breaks my heart I really recommend anyone who hasn’t to watch her e THS it’s here on CZcams

  • @peterjeffery8495
    @peterjeffery8495 Před 4 lety +2

    My hats off to you Be Kind rewind, this was very well done. It didn't feel like a slipshod rehashed cut and paste bit of salacious fluff that you see on way-too-many of the Hollywood Retrospective Channels on YT. This was a well thought out, professionally done executive length essay on the latter days of Hollywood's "Golden Era". Speaking of salacious (but true) fluff, Judy as well as being loved and liked for her talent, at least away from the studio, had a razor sharp wit. On the other half of the scale, Grace was widely known to have slept with all of her male co-stars amongst others and had a real reputation as a fast lady. At a party a friend of Judy said that Grace "must be a nymphomaniac". Judy quipped, "Nymphomaniac?! She'd have to slow down in order to become a nymphomaniac"!

  • @felixgato125
    @felixgato125 Před 6 lety +20

    Can you do one for Glenda Jackson's second win and one for Ellen Burstyn's win? the shocked faces were priceless.

  • @TheTibmeister
    @TheTibmeister Před 5 lety +10

    My father worked with Garland in London in the 60s. An experienced musician he said she was the most professional singer he ever worked with. So she could be a good girl.

  • @JM-lw3nx
    @JM-lw3nx Před 6 lety +21

    This crushed Judy.

  • @urestiebestie9072
    @urestiebestie9072 Před 6 lety +313

    Not only was Judy ROBBED but Grace wasn’t even the second best choice for the category. Dorothy Dandridge was actually the second best choice for the win. Carmen Jones was JUST phenomenal as A Star Is Born. But it was 1954 and Dorothy was a black woman so there’s no way she would’ve won, nonetheless its a win for her to be nominated. Grace was averag at best. Looks, acting, ect.

    • @BTheTrue
      @BTheTrue Před 6 lety +77

      I agree with everything you've said except that Grace Kelly was not AVERAGE in looks.
      She really was stunning.
      As was Dorothy.

    • @magiciansalchemist3693
      @magiciansalchemist3693 Před 5 lety +56

      absoftitanium Wrong Dorothy Dandridge Looked like a Black Woman both Black Parents. We African Americans come in different colors and Facial Features. Dorothy looked like Janet Jackson(Penny...Good Times) when she was a Child, Tamia Mowry as a Teenager and a Cross Between Whitney Houston/Halle Berry. I Guess in order to Look like a "Black Woman" we Black Women must look like Lupita Nyyongo or Viola Davis.

    • @BTheTrue
      @BTheTrue Před 5 lety +52

      Um what?
      Dorothy Dandrige was a BLACK woman. Nothing to argue about here.
      And can it with the social construct nonsense.

    • @gracecheri997
      @gracecheri997 Před 5 lety +15

      Dorothy. Dandridge was born during unenlightened times. She was flawlessly beautiful and could act sing and dance

    • @mamadouaziza2536
      @mamadouaziza2536 Před 5 lety +2

      And did you look at the votes to determine whether Dorothy was second?

  • @donatord
    @donatord Před 5 lety +5

    At least we were lucky that a complete soundtrack was found. Even with the movie rounded out with stills, it showed Garland's performance one of the greatest on film and still relevant today. How could The Man That Got Away lose to Three Coins in a Fountain? Hard to take the Academy seriously after that debacle.

  • @craigbhill
    @craigbhill Před rokem

    I am again taken by the literary brilliance of these commentaries. A very grateful subscriber ~ Craig Hill

  • @SymphonyBrahms
    @SymphonyBrahms Před 3 lety +6

    Judy Garland deserved the Oscar that year for her brilliant performance in A Star is Born.

  • @fonzieru6755
    @fonzieru6755 Před 5 lety +1

    This channel is absolutely GOLD

  • @holarc
    @holarc Před 5 lety +7

    hadn't heard the backstory before. poor judy. so naturally gifted. the studio and their drugging her, along with the pressures of film fame, really messed her up.
    probably your best commentary of the few i've heard. [the "...and i guess, subscribe" is rather obnoxious. lol.]

  • @stevie68a
    @stevie68a Před 6 lety +68

    Prior to a "A Star is Born", Judy got fired from her last picture.
    Her drug and weight problems were made worse by being a no-show during filming, or getting there very late.
    The people behind the scenes, lighting, makeup, assistants, etc. just wanted to do their jobs and go home when they were done. These people had no illusions about movie stars.
    So,she was disliked at this time by many in the industry, which I believe, cost her the Oscar for a great performance.
    Grace Kelly was ladylike, more low key than Garland, so people liked her. So she got the award for a so-so performance.
    Garland ought to get a posthumous Oscar for a notable film career.

    • @jonathankieranwriter
      @jonathankieranwriter Před 6 lety +10

      stevie68a ... She already was awarded an Oscar in 1939 for her work as a young actress in Oz and Babes in Arms. She’s an Oscar winner. She doesn’t need another one, seeing as they schtumped her for A Star Is Born and Nuremberg.
      What she needs is a posthumous Emmy for her landmark, record-breaking television work.
      She already won a Tony (1951), a Golden Globe (1954), and 5 Grammys (1961) to go with her Oscar (1939) and she was nominated for a slew of Emmys.
      Plus, she was the first woman to EVER earn the prestigious Cecil B. Demille Award (1961) at age 38.
      A posthumous Emmy award for her brilliant span of late-career TV work is LONG overdue.
      Shall we start a petition? 😁
      I love Judy because I love PURE talent. And she exemplifies it. I don’t give a shit about her personal dramas, except for the fact that the studios hooked her on speed to lose weight and downers to make her rest, and speed to waker her up to work.
      I don’t CARE about her personal mistakes and tomfoolery. I don’t want to hear about her private hell and awful business mistakes.
      She succeeded in EVERYTHING she ever did, across the board, as a performer. If she squandered her immense fortune (or, frankly, allowed husbands and agents to steal from her) that’s a personal defect that she *could* have corrected.
      Judy Garland *could* have preserved her multi-millions, which would have made her life perhaps less dramatic, but she failed in that thing. And that, I feel, was not a drug-flaw, but a “lazy” flaw. A naïve flaw. When she knew better and actually had the power to shove parasites like Sid Luft out of her life, and glossy grifters like Fields & Begelmann out of her life (or at least pay hardcore federal banking advisors to help her-she had that opportunity).
      She missed that bus by 20 miles. Some people in art and performance have an aversion to finances-almost an obsessive phobia about finances.
      I think Judy suffered from that problem, due to her childhood, fly-by-night vaudeville existence with those shitty parents, and I don’t think ANYONE has properly explored THAT element as a major factor in her amazing life and death-by-sickness.
      I think it needs to be explored, because Judy earned millions upon millions upon millions in her brief life and her phobia (or crippling inability) to manage money was her doom, IMO.
      That being said, she was the greatest singer and performer of our day-the first true multi-media superstar, along with Sinatra, but he didn’t have her cinematic presence, the same way that Streisand was absolutely awful on stage as a regular performer, and avoided live performing (due to anxiety, or whatever, but still.)
      Garland ended up with ZERO, and for someone who was so very successful, that mystery of her money needs to be answered.

    • @SophiahKoikasWindyQueen
      @SophiahKoikasWindyQueen Před 5 lety +3

      but those crew members knew how judy was treated with the pills and never helped. shame on them

    • @brianoyler4777
      @brianoyler4777 Před 5 lety +5

      Jonathan Kieran, stevie68a, Sophiah et al., the way I understand the Garland dilemma is her mother started her down the road to destruction with pills. This pill popping carried over when she became a contract player for MGM. As the pill popping continued when she reached her twenties, there were people at the studio who were obliged and paid to give her free handouts. Too many blame solely the studio for her addiction. No, Garland was addicted, but the studio did not or did not know how to deal with it properly. The idea to keep her going was to give her the pills. So, therefore, 1. Garland and her mother were to blame for the initial addiction, 2. The studio did not know how to properly deal with Garland the addict, the artist, the commodity.

    • @sylviacarlson3561
      @sylviacarlson3561 Před 5 lety +1

      you got that right Isabel!

    • @shieldsup2076
      @shieldsup2076 Před 5 lety +2

      @@sylviacarlson3561 "The reason she involved herself with these trysts was she felt unloved by her father and her lovers were father substitutions which was why she favored older men."
      Did Grace Kelly whisper that into your ear after you both made love? Did she say it breathily bitch?

  • @allegory6393
    @allegory6393 Před 6 lety +64

    Grace Kelly was (made into) a big film star but, at best, she was no more than a mediocre to fairly competent actress. She shone brightly in Hitchcock films but that is because she did not need to act in them, just look a certain way. Judy Garland was completely and beyond any doubt robbed of that Oscar (and by an industry that greatly contributed to her addictions) that should have been hers and hers alone. I think it is the most outrageous Oscar-award-going- to-the-wrong-person case ever, and that includes the Paltrow-Weinstein bought Oscar (awarded to Paltrow over genuinely, beguilingly talented actresses like Fernanda Montenegro and Cate Blanchett), and my own personal angry case of the wrong person winning over a much better actress and performance -and film, the Jennifer Lawrence-Weinstein bought Oscar instead of the one who really deserved to win it that year, the legend that was Emanuelle Riva, for the masterpiece that is Michael Haneke's 'Amour.'

    • @francescafrancesca5125
      @francescafrancesca5125 Před 5 lety +6

      All so true.

    • @Kevin-rg3yc
      @Kevin-rg3yc Před 5 lety +4

      agreed that's why people need to learn the differences between a movie star and an actor/actress. You can be both today but that only happens if you learn to compare and contrast the two

  • @hunterphan5506
    @hunterphan5506 Před 4 lety +4

    I really don’t understand how the studio didn’t see Judy as a beauty or glamorous. She was both, and she had (still has) so many fans.

  • @robertplattner1636
    @robertplattner1636 Před 3 lety +4

    I would’ve given Grace Kelly the Oscar for Rear Window.

  • @Dennisanyone-
    @Dennisanyone- Před 6 lety +28

    Well done. Even if Judy wouldn’t have had all the past baggage I still think Kelly would have pulled it off. Kelly also won the National Board of Review and golden globe for best actress. She was always the front runner. Plus I think in other tech branches of the Academy really hurt Judy in the voting. Mainly a lot of film crews she kept waiting or was difficult with. Shame because Judy was a stunning talent. She also lost in 1962 when she got caught up in the West Side Story juggernaut and Rita Moreno won. So the Academy by no means wanted to make it up to her. You are your reputation in Hollywood. No matter how talented , people have long memories. Judy just had so many hardships, not the least of which was LB Mayer helping to get her hooked on uppers and downers. It’s a testament to her genius she could perform on the highest level under so much adversity.

    • @SophiahKoikasWindyQueen
      @SophiahKoikasWindyQueen Před 5 lety +2

      and those crew people got paid well to wait for her while the hire ups drugged her.

  • @everydaymarvin2490
    @everydaymarvin2490 Před 6 lety +4

    I love stuff like this! I didn’t realize how deep some of this really went. It is sad that Judy Garland ended up with so many issues due to how things started in her movie career. The use of pills to keep her image going ultimately did her no favors in the long run. I appreciate the work she did and she will be forever remembered for her star quality. May she rest in peace now. Thank you for making this! 😊

  • @wolfstar675
    @wolfstar675 Před 4 lety +4

    I love Grace Kelly her work with Hitchcock was great.

  • @nicolewhalen6760
    @nicolewhalen6760 Před 5 lety +7

    Grace was unbelievably beautiful

  • @DamianoCrosina
    @DamianoCrosina Před 5 lety +1

    This is my new favourite CZcams channel ever. The attention and care that's clearly behind each and everyone of your videos is outstanding!

  • @nikokaapa
    @nikokaapa Před 5 lety +15

    I am a huge Grace Kelly fan but the story of Garland is simply heartbreaking. I have never seen a star is born, but intend to do so.

    • @bradleyscarton3931
      @bradleyscarton3931 Před 3 lety +1

      It’s her greatest performance. It’s what she should be remembered for. One of the greatest performances I’ve ever seen and it’s a shame she was robbed of the Oscar for it.

  • @davids7627
    @davids7627 Před 5 lety +14

    Well, I think Grace deserved the Oscar that year. How many of the critics of her Oscar win have actually seen The Country Girl? It was a stunning performance in which Grace was completely different from the way she was in Dial M for Murder and Rear Window. Instead of being glamorous and sophisticated, she played the part of a gritty wife with a blue collar look, having to cover up for the failings of an alcoholic husband.
    I have seen A Star is Born as well, and it is a great film, but for me, the difference is that Judy's film had a lot of singing and dancing performances in it, it was borderline musical, something that Judy was good at. Interestingly, both films deal with the problems caused by alcohol addiction, James Mason's in A Star is Born and Bing Crosby's in The Country Girl; I just think that Grace's film dealt with the subject in a more gritty and realistic way.

    • @carolkelly8848
      @carolkelly8848 Před 2 lety +3

      I agree, Grace Kelly was wonderful in this movie and deserved her Oscar. She did not steal anything. The movie and all the performers were outstanding.

    • @jaengen
      @jaengen Před rokem +2

      Nope it was an average performance at best. Sorry.

  • @shihlin1
    @shihlin1 Před 6 lety +6

    In Oscar voting, some choices seemed right at the time, but decades later don't make any sense. Makes you wonder: "What were they THINKING??" Grace won this one by a squeaker, I'm sure. "Country Girl" was the one film she HAD to do, and in exchange she promised to do some other films she originally didn't want like "Pal Joey". Garland def deserved the Oscar that year. Academy members felt singing and dancing was second nature to Judy, so gave the Oscar to Grace instead. If you watch the "Born In A Trunk" number from Star Is Born, those few min alone blows away Grace Kelly's entire performance in "Country Girl". Yeah, Judy was robbed. BIG TIME !!

    • @brianoyler4777
      @brianoyler4777 Před 5 lety

      shihlin1, correction: Grace Kelly was never in Pal Joey. She was in High Society. It was Kim Novak and Rita Hayworth in Pal Joey.

    • @Kevin-rg3yc
      @Kevin-rg3yc Před 5 lety

      Right I have that same thoughts when I look at gwenth paltrow winning for Shakespeare in love or Sandra bullocks winning for the blind side. Its like, "really?" Its sad what the Oscars did to judy knowing Damn well based on performance alone Judy was the best of the all nominees

  • @lovinliverpool
    @lovinliverpool Před 4 lety +4

    Why do people have to tear down a woman to prop up another? Grace Kelly and Judy Garland were both talented. These comments crapping on Grace Kelly are sickening.

  • @a.s.alfred9975
    @a.s.alfred9975 Před 4 lety +7

    Can make a video about how Judy Holliday won Best Actress for her performance in Born Yesterday? And how she managed to beat two great performances of entire cinematic history; Bette Davis in All About Eve & Gloria Swanson in Sunset Boulevard? How Bette David failed despite starring in Best Picture winning All About Eve which scored most nominations and most awards of the night?

  • @natalie651
    @natalie651 Před 4 lety +1

    Oh my Gosh, this video is so wonderfully intelligent. It honestly, but undramatically, describes what I believe is just misogyny in the Hollywood system and the Academy Awards. But, instead of beiing angry about it, it calmly and factually explains the issues. Love it.

  • @lpgilber
    @lpgilber Před 5 lety +27

    Even though Grace won, people don’t talk about that performance like Judy’s. People talk about that movie when talking about Grace. However people talk about Judy’s performance when talking about great performances, period.

  • @marfu1119
    @marfu1119 Před rokem +2

    So many iconic access was nominated that year. Judy Garland, Dorothy Dandridge, Audrey Hepburn and Grace Kelly. At the time Dorothy Dandridge was the first black woman to be nominated for best Actress. All these women died so tragically too.

  • @Klymenthis
    @Klymenthis Před 5 lety +12

    I always think Grace Kelly was underrated as an actress because she was so incredibly beautiful. There’s real intensity and presence when Kelly is on screen that isn’t about her looks or her clothes - she has a way of holding herself that draws attention and in all her films she completely embodies her role and everything else about her melts away. In the Country Girl she is magnetic because she isn’t just vulnerable - she’s suffering but has a backbone and self respect, everyone around the character projects their impression of her onto her and doesn’t look any deeper - much like people still do with the real Kelly, imagining someone who gave up her career for a gilded cage instead of someone who looked around at the way studios and the press treated stars, decided that she deserved better and moved on before everyone else could decide that she was a hasbeen. Kelly had a lot of advantages over Garland from her family and education and looks and the fact she hadn’t been pushed into drug addiction and bulimia as a child but she was a genuinely talented actress in a way Garland isn’t for me, so many of Garlands roles are based entirely around her singing and being vulnerable with big eyes. It isn’t to say she isn’t good but A Star is Born just has an overwrought quality to it where the Country Girl has more presence

    • @hawkeyeten2450
      @hawkeyeten2450 Před 10 měsíci

      What many also don't know is that Grace Kelly considered herself a classical feminist, and usually played her characters accordingly. If you look in each of her films, at least 90% of them have at least one major empowerment theme in them, sometimes several.

  • @JennaLeigh
    @JennaLeigh Před 3 lety +1

    I'm so excited to have found your channel! Your video essays are beyond excellent- you give in-depth, well researched insight behind the scenes that really sheds light on the inner workings of Hollywood.
    You are also a fantastic speaker- there are countless CZcams narrators who mispronounce and misuse words often. You enunciate and expound so clearly, sharing lots of valuable information in a comfortable and conversational manner that makes the info easy to digest and your topics easy to follow.
    All in all, it's crystal clear that you are both extremely well versed on these topics and passionate about what you're doing. Thank you so much for the hard work, time, and effort you put into creating these.

  • @OnTheOnlyShipButHalfWannaSink

    I love Grace, love Judy, hate awards & the systems/people that offer them as if they are some kind of payment/compensation.

  • @ciaohound
    @ciaohound Před 4 lety

    Such a compelling assessment of a longtime puzzle. Thank you for providing this, BKR.

  • @grandbaby5993
    @grandbaby5993 Před 4 lety +6

    I was kind of dissapointed they moved Garland's grave into Hollywood.
    I know it is where it all started, and the reason why it ended

  • @beckys2584
    @beckys2584 Před 5 lety +3

    The content on your channel is really fantastic. Excellent stuff!