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The Messed Up Origins of Puss in Boots | Fables Explained - Jon Solo
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(☞ﾟヮﾟ)☞ Thanks for watching, folks! Hope you liked this episode! Which fable ending did you like best?
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Hi
The ends of the first one is a story trope about good luck and good fortune. I like that in the first ending best because those stories acknowlege the random and sometimes unfair or a-moral ways events can unfold.
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Jon Solo Please do some expanded Fables Explained episodes on The Three Little Pigs, The Pied Piper, The Frog Prince, Beauty and the Beast, Sleeping Beauty, Cinderella, Rapunzel, etc.!
Hey Jon, we are big fans of your work! Thanks for helping me find these cool stores for my kids. My oldest did fan art of you falling into your books and she explained the ABCs to me
So thanks for that lol
Explains why in the second film Puss in Boots is introduced as an ogre killer.
BoyNamedSue4 amm mybe because he killed/ate the ogre who lives in a castle?
😂😂😂 Face-palm.....I'm dying! 😂😂😂
Wonder if that Ogre was related to Shrek?
What Alien? He says “explains why” not “explain me why” you dummy.
@@istoleyourlatte there’s the ogre from The Adventures of Puss in Boots and Puss never killed him
Personally, I think the moral ought to be, "Appreciate the gifts you're given. They could prove to be more valuable than you can imagine." After all, the protagonist thought the cat to be the most useless inheritance, and he despaired over not being given something better. And yet, despite how it seemed, the cat proved to be the most valuable inheritance he could have asked for. Or maybe the moral is just, "Cats rock!" Who knows?
If only he had just used said cat in honorable ways
Definitely "Cat's rock"
@@transyuri4534 yes
This moral fits Last Wish really well too, actually
@@stwbmc98 I was just about to type that until I saw your comment
I always thought the moral of "Puss in Boots" was "Don't judge a book by its cover," due to the master's presupposition of the cat's relative uselessness.
So did i
Maybe, or its that Cats are amazing
Yep.
So basically with the first one the moral of the story is that no matter if it was a few hundred years ago or in the modern day, Puss is always a damn good wingman
While also failing in his own love life. Let's not forget Santa Coloma.
@@valentinkambushev4968 Really? *SANTA COLOMA?!*
@@raisya495 SÍ, SANTA COLOMA!
@@valentinkambushev4968 *HISS*
Perrito: "Ahh - Santa Coloma!"
The last two versions are a case of "No good deed goes unpunished."
You mean Unnoticed
@@potatoeskween9834 no, here were two animals, the cat and the fox, that helped these men become rich and powerful. Then, when the men had what they desired, didn't treat the animals well. In the cat's case, the man promised to keep her by his side, even after her death and when she pretended to be dead, the man was just going to cast her body aside. Even worse for the fox, the man killed her - or him.
@@ElicBehexan then what did you mean by unpunished
@@potatoeskween9834 if you do a good deed and then the person you did it to treated you poorly, how would you feel?
@@ElicBehexan like cutting somebody
I screeched at "I treated my Webkinz better than that" same bro 😂😂😂
I treat my webkinz so good they are still alive 9 years later
Coffee Addict 😀😀😀😀
Your funny
I was looking for this comment! I felt like I was the only guy with a webkinz for a while there lol
@@youtubeuseri57 nope I had WebKinz too lol! Me and my first step brother had some webkinz, he was the one who first started collecting them, I was 9 and he was 7.
When I was a child and read this story I always thought the moral of the story is never underestimate the smallest creatures and their natural talent, a cat is cunning, also don't complain about your inheritance, it might be the a greater gift than first thought.
My thoughts too.
The Ogre was evil, he ate people, had killed the original owner of the castle, and was enslaving the people on "his" land. All Puss did was con a king, lie, threaten the townspeople, kill some rabbits, and defeat an evil ogre. He is a thief and an outlaw after all.
As a kid, I read a Finnish version of "Puss in Boots" called "Mighty Mikko". The essential story is almost identical to the better-known version, except that both Mikko's parents die, he has no siblings, and his inheritance is a set of traps. He catches a fox in one of the traps, takes it home and treats it well, and the fox helps him out of gratitude. It gets Mikko into the King's good graces through a series of favors, and instead of an ogre, the fox takes the castle from a dragon, called "The Wyrm".
I read that one in a collection of Norse tales book I got.
Huh. I think that's much better, actually.
Isn't a wyrm a recognised creature in mythology? As in, it is a common noun, not a proper noun
@@justuraveragecunt9005 You'd have to take that up with whoever translated the version of the story I read into English. They're the ones that gave the dragon's proper name as "the Wyrm". I only read the story, I didn't write it or translate it.
Name sounds like mikkel rev "mikkel fox", a norwegian fairy tale/tales
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i like how in the puss in boots movies you not only have puss, there's also kitty softpaws so its kinda like having both versions of the cats in the stories appear in the movies
Yeah also kitty soft paws kinda resemblance the second story
I was thinking the same thing! Their both similar stories. Especially how kitty had trouble trusting people after being _betrayed_ multiple times. Dreamworks really put so much effort into these films. 😍
the funniest thing about the puss in boots story is if you picture a real cat wearing boots walking, in case you dont know, cats walk really weird if you put something on their feet
Shrek was waaay more grateful. Ogres are more honest and have layers of decency.
Like an onion
Like an Onion
October girl They can’t be like an onion they lack appeal.
Punkwrestle it’s a reference to the first movie.
@@hattiedunham8866 he was making a joke
Your videos are great. I get to know origins without doing all the hard work.
hahaha I'm glad I can save you the time and effort! ;) thanks for watching!
Laura Strauch lolol. that's why he getting paid to. man I love these episodes.
I'd like the comment, but I don't want to ruin the perfect 500 likes! :)
IKR! I would never care about stuff like this normally but now ik it’s so interesting!
Your missing out on four fifths of the fun..
The moral of the story is if your cat randomly starts talking to you about making you rich and actually follows through, it's probably a magical being with powers beyond comprehension and it's best not to piss those off.
Even if they don't make you rich, c'mon man, it's a talking cat, it'd be worth to have them around just for the smug commentary lol
I would love to have a talking cat! Sad I don't have that however I have two real ones that speak to me in "meows" though haha
@@benadrylcumbersplatch6448 I feel bad for that one Puss in Boots variant that was betrayed by her owner, that was sad!
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@@syedarizvi7290That could've also been the inspiration for Kitty softpaws. They have similar stories. 🤔
I think the moral behind Puss in Boots is "Cats are neat." And I find that very respectable.
@Regulus
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@@Jymboslicx Who are also pie-loving crime-syndicates. =}
I've honestly seen the story as a warning not to underestimate people (or in this case, a cat). The dude thinks his cat is just food but the cat manages to get him a wife, fancy royal title, and castle.
*_Wow! I never realized Shrek was actually the main villain in the original story of Puss In Boots manga._*
*FUR BALL!* ~ Puss In Boots 2004
Fing
clockwork Orange i love it .... good day to you just had to say it 😀
Manga?!? The fuck is a manga
N Is True God book anime
N Is True God a Japanese comic book
you know, after hearing about the alternate version of puss in boots where the cat is female, that actually makes more sense for kitty softpaws' existence! obviously it's more likely they just wanted a female counterpart + love interest for puss but if they did get inspired by that version of the fairytale, it'd be pretty cool
They did! I own that version and the characters are identical in all but design.
Am I the only one who thinks Softpaws could be based on the second version of the story?
Yeah I agree with you too I feel they based her off the second story
How funny. Kitty being based on another version of Puss makes perfect sense since Puss loves himself so much.
Maybe for the third puss in boots they could have the fox based on the third puss boots story made
@@batmangothic89 I wouldn't even be surprised if they did that too, especially after designing Mr. Wolf, Diane Foxington, and Death. At this point, Dreamworks is like a money vacuum for furries. A new fox character would just increase their revenue stream.
@@andrewblissett2211 yeah your right maybe also they could introduce the boy that puss help or a hint of in some short of away
So your telling me that fox can kill an ogre, but can't dodge a jar? OMG
Well, he didn't explicitly say that that's how that story played out. He kind of glossed over the particular events of that one. We can assume that it played out in a similar manner, but the fox may not have killed an ogre.
My guess could be, the fox, was in telling mode, caught the fox off-guard, and killed at the last second.
The fox not expecting a hard and/or heavy, glass jar.
This, would have killed the fox head on.
@@happysavage6660 More likely a ceramic jar, much heavier and more deadly than glass.
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@@albatross1688 when he glosses over like that its beacuse it was in the story that was compared yes its likely that fox killed an ogre
The morale is: men who owns a tabby, will become happily married
It's originally a black cat, and according to superstitions, it makes sense
The cat is one of my favorite characters from all fairy tales. He's super smart and loyal. What more could you want from a character
Porn?
I'd like to imagine that kitty's origins would be taken from Gagliuso's irritation of the ca.t not only its a female this time but it also explains why she has so much trust issues and easily falls into conclusions and all the fuss about "I just wanted someone to trust" as her wish wishing. The church incident and the declawing can be one of them but I believe the biggest reason why she lost trust in everyone is because she was stabbed in the back by the one she helped a while back (mc). I don't know how DreamWorks would do it and who will be the mc but I believe she'd tell people to lie by threatening that she'll steal their remaining fortunes with her soft paws without them knowing and her vengeance will be so huge the Mc dies at the end like every other Shrek film
This was hands-down one of the BEST Fables Explained we’ve had in a long time. It was extra interesting because of how relatively obscure the story of Puss in Boots is. So well researched and funny too! Keep up the awesome work!
I don't know the main age group your channel attracts, but I imagine relatively young...
As a grown up lady who appreciates geeking out.. You do an amazing job telling the tales and I really dig how you're sort of.. Expanding and digging deeper with the archetypes and stuff. Well made videos that aren't boring. Just enough hip slang etc. Nice work, bud.
Also helps that he's cute lmao
His face isnt even on screen all that much. Personally, I rarely watch these anyway, I listen.
But yeah, he is cute lol
Well the true moral is something a lot of people miss including me, I had to ask my teacher in school when we learned this story.
The moral is : Things you get from your inheritance are not always worthless. Basically be happy with what you get from your parents because it might have worth beyond its face value.
The moral of the story is "DON'T BARBECUE YOUR CAT!"
It wasn't until I started watching these videos, I learned about the index used to classified fairy tails and fables. Which is just awesome to learn about. ^^
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Despite the questionable morality, I still consider this one of my favorites, if for no other reason than the cat's cunning and willingness to help his master.
I'm thinking the cat playing dead might be related to the "9 lives" myth that also runs throughout myth and legend. I recently learned that the Egyptian cat-goddess Bastet, and the fact that cats under her protection would enter burning homes to rescue their chosen humans is also involved. Your videos really are captivating, Jon!
This just became a whole lot more relevant
@@Nic_2751 huh
@@bruschetta7711 bruh the last wish
@@Nic_2751 that's a surprise huh
Not the huh? (With a question mark)
@@bruschetta7711 goddamnit I hate communicating through text, though personally for the case I put multiple dots afterward to signify that meaning
Personally I always thought the moral was “If your cat can talk and asks you to get him a pair of boots, I’d listen if I were you.” Lol, but more seriously the trope of listening to helpful magical animals such as foxes or cats.
The moral is: stop at nothing to reach your goal.....even if you must crush some skulls on the way.
delia daineanu Slytherins motto
But there's a "rightous" twist : stop at nothing to help others reach there goals.. even if you must crush some 💀 s
@@arilivshuts660 seems like the actual moral is no who you are dealing with.
The story should say: How to be a good con man or how to cut throats to get by!
You're all wrong. The moral is -be careful who you help
Hi Jon, I really enjoy messed up origins and fables explained. Thank you for this!
Why though? He literally ruins all these stories, and what for?
A small addition I will add in regards to the "moral" is how the owner did put faith in his cat, even going so far as to buy him clothes. After knowing that shoes were kinda pricey back then, and knowing that he received nothing from his inheritance that would help him get shoes for the cat, giving his cat shoes *is* kind've a big leap of faith.
Someone smarter than I can probably interpret this detail better, but that's a tiny nugget of a moral there. Have faith in your companions.
Good point
My mom read me the ogre variant as a kid (and a few of the “older” versions of fairytales). And I did indeed like it.
First it was unique, a can was the main character, and I was just fascinated my stories that a slight horror element.
Since Puss was the main character, I was focused on this cat using his brains to give HIMSELF a better life and not be eaten or tossed out. Also, I think the book mentioned that the ogre was terrorizing the people in the kingdom he owned? So I took it as ‘justice’ being served, or at least that a kingdom’s leader should be run by someone that’s fair to the people.
I always saw Puss being the protagonist of this tale instead of his master, and hence the morale of the story being a common one in tales that it is best to be clever over all else. If the master is the protagonist then the moral is of course that his kindness in not eating/selling etc his cat in the beginning pays off.
Can you do the messed up origins of “The Wizard of Oz”? Also, great video. 👍
Yes please do that
I wonder if the Gagliuso version was what inspired Kitty Softpaws from the Puss in Boots movies, since they are both female cats wearing boots that were betrayed by their owner
"Be the ultimate bro." best moral. Like the fact that you add to be be the ultimate bro honestly. Another great video!
how to succeed in life: be the ultimate bro
-jon solo
Its crazy to me, because i had forgotten all about the original story of the puss and boots until the guy started narrating the story again. The whole memory of it came back out of no where
Judging from what Puss has done before, I know for a fact he could’ve killed Shrek if he really wanted to. Especially considering he can take down actual giants and fight death himself lol
Me trying to compliment someone: "You have shoes...That's dope."
The moral is be appreciative of your pets. Dogs are man’s best friend and cats are the ultimate wingman.
so shrek 2 is actualy somehow puss in boots origin. he helped shrek look handsome and trick the king to marry him to the princess. XD
This was my favorite fairy tale as a child. The morale of the story has always been "Lie, Steal, Cheat".
Capitalism!
the original Master cat story is the one my parents told me, i have acualy never heard the newer versions.
Kinda cool to learn that Disney making their giant a shape-shifter was originally an ogre ability. Even had Mickey try to do the same trick as Puss. Nice little homage, I guess I figured they just came up with that scene to pad out the feature length runtime since Jack and the Beanstalk is so short.
the first story is literaly just ''WHO IS YOUR FAVOURITE FEARLESS WINGMAN!''
I can get another moral out of this story; You know how the guy complained about just receiving a cat as heritage compared to his brothers', in the end he got the best gift all considering the cat made me rich an married to a princess, thus don't complain for what you got because it could be better than it seems.
Jon: "deus ex machina"
Me: *having flashbacks about A Series Of Unfortunate Events*
Lit video bro. You could say the video was "PUURRRRRR-fect".
Stop. Just go before you start a catastrophe.
That was paw-sitively awful and I'm going to ask you to paw-lease stop.
That was a purr-fectly good joke
These jokes are all cringey, ok?
Reminds me of Catwoman from the 1960s-Batman show.(Chuckle!)
What a nice cat/fox towards a bastard of a dude.
The first story with Puss was a true bro move. Best wingcat.
Who is your favorite fearless hero ?
🎶Who's brave and ready for trouble?
(You are, you are!)
Ha ha!
Who's so unbelievably humble!
(You are, you are!)
🎶Who is your favorite fearless he-e-ro?
Who is your favorite fearless he-e-ro?
Guess that would explain why he’s being stalked by a scary wolf that wants him dead in Last Wish
I don’t think every literature needs a moral, even kids books. sometimes, it’s fine just to have fun nothing more.
Who's seeing this for the first time after Last Wish?
This made me feel so nostalgic. My dad used to read the story to me all the time, he pronounced "Carabas" with the emphasis on the "bas" and with the same A sound as in the other syllables.
I watch your videos since the beginning, or at least the series since the beginning, and I've noticed how I heard the original (or at least the closest to those) versions growing up. I now question my parents' parenting methods cause... Wow. What stories to tell to a kiddo hahaha.
Lol! Jon...you always crack me up!!!! 9:25 Moral of the story....."Be The Ultimate Bro.".... 😂😂😂😂 Love you! Keep doing you! ❤😊💖
Me: Huh, what a cool story
*turns around to see my cat puking on the floor*
I would definitely like to hear more animal helper fables!
Also, I think secretly, the real moral of the story is; animals have been helping and serving humans for thousands of years, and yet we often treat them like garbage, lesser, and a tool that is replaceable. This isn't so much true any more, as now most peoples animals are pets, not workers, but it used to be very true.
Maybe not so much a moral, but an awareness message.
I remember seeing a version where outside the ogre's castle (except in this version he was an evil sorcerer, and not an ogre), there was also a frog who said she was actually a kitten, and as soon as the sorcerer is dead, she changes back into herself and marries Puss. Not too surprised you didn't mention that in any of the stories you talked about. Must have been something that was added in that version.
I was eating when I logged onto youtube, and when I saw the notification, I swallowed my food wrong and choked I was so excited, Puss in boots was one of my favorite characters when I was little.
Glad your alive though lol, hate when that happens
IVE BEEN WAITING FOR THIS SINCE YOU GAVE THE TEASER!!
Puss after killing the Ogre: Who is your favorite, fearless HERO? Who is your favorite HEROOOOO?!!!
I noticed a bit of Mickey and The Beanstalk took inspiration from this story. Willy the Giant had the shape shifting abilities.
Mickey tried killing the giant in a similar fashion to the ogre. Mickey’s plan was to trick Willy into becoming a fly, so he could kill him with a fly swatter, but his plan backfired.
Wasn’t it called Jack and the Beanstalk?
@@geschnitztekiste4111 I'm talking about the Mickey Mouse version that was featured in the movie Fun & Fancy Free.
Thank you for explaining the whole shoe thing. Helps me to understand why any royal would give a damn about some rando giving them dead animal gifts. Let alone be cool with a talking, bipedal cat...😐
Great episode! This was dope!
In the future, based on this episode & other episodes, I'd love to see a comparison series, with folktales and stories from all over the world!
Jon. Please make an updated version of this video!!! Puss in boots: the last wish was greatest animated film of 2022!!!
My grandfather used to tell me this tale and it was my favorite, now since the modern puss in boots its nice to get a refresh of this masterpiece and it s origins
I think maybe the first story was the base for puss in boots, but the third one could be the inspiration for kitty soft paws, being that her owner almost threw her out the window after she had “died” it could be the base for her trust issues in the newer movie
moral of the story be clever like a cat get your friends rich and you also become rich
i think basile's version might be inspiration for kitty soft paws, just an idea
The most hilarious part is your jokes and irony while maintaining a serious face man you are killing me xD Good job!
The female cat is kinda like Kitty Softpaws from The Puss movies.
Puss in boots is one of my favorite fairy tales, thank you so much for this video 😄
Jon is like the cat. He is amazing for what he does and tries to help us who watch these videos. Even if he doesn't get the credit, he is the best person ever
I love your commentary so much! I have since introduced your channel to my 90 yr old mom who happens to be sight impaired and her life is audio books. OMG she laughed and loves you. Her only comment was how fast you talk. LOL. Doesn't take away from her enjoyment at all, but I often stop the video to catch her up on what she's missed. Keep up the amazing work. As said by myself and my amazing mom!
This came out so long ago but it’s really cool how much of these stories are put into Puss and Kitty in the Last Wish
WOOHOO!! This is my favourite story! You’re doing great Jon!
I lovw this channel i read fox and the hound book it was so so dark
What's fox and the hound book?
The disney film of fox and the hound was based off a book called fox and the hound book by Daniel p mannix. Its darker than the disney film
@@DeerFox1312 oh yeah now i remember it but i don't know yet about the real story...thanks.
@@mersedehm.h1525 he has a video on the origins
Puss in Boots in the movies is parody of Zorro
Call me strange, but I always took this as a story of the benefits of wit. A "brains over brawn or luck" lesson. You could say fortune layed it all out, but Puss' wits and planning acquired everything.
Can you do the princess and the pea messed up origin
@@breezythaprof thankssss
I think he did already just look through his videos.
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Honestly when you think about it, the first Puss in Boots movie actually did bear some similarities to the story. We did have the significance of the boots in his mother giving them to him as a coming of age and a show of status. Then we have Humpty in the place of the young man. Humpty was a more active character than the guy in the legend, but he had Puss's loyalty and support...up and until he betrayed him. When Humpty betrayed him, Puss left him out to dry just as the cat in the tale did to her master. Of course, while the overall first story you spoke of matches his role in Shrek 2 much better, I think it can be argued that his first solo movie did keep some elements of the legend and of course, as others have pointed out, Kitty Soft Paws was very possibly a take on the female version of the fairy tale cat.
Haha bear
I remember having a book about puss and it scaring me shitless.
what is it about
@@nirock2550 forgot
Is the second one sort of reminiscent of kitty soft paws? Like loosely speaking, being betrayed trust.
Love your vids so much binge watching messed up origins
I think Gagliuso’s version of Puss in Boots is the inspiration for Kitty Softpaws for a few reasons;
1) 11:11 The cat is female
2) 11:21 See Puss’ outfit, that’s almost identical to Kitty Softpaws; and is a Black Cat just like Kitty.
Umm…yeah. That’s basically all the evidence I have that could tie Gagliuso’s version to Kitty.
Also the trust issues.
11:05 Can I just say that I love this illustration? So stylish and fun! And a very elaborate speech/though bubble equivalent!
I grew up with a cheesy (and very cheaply made) puss in boots cartoon from 1999 and I'm genuinely shocked how closely it was adapted from the original and how skillfully they cleaned up the darker bits
As a cat lover I really, really liked this video!
Yes please!!!! I would LOVE more messed up origins from different tale types!!!!😍😍
I love how much more comfortable you are talking to the camera than you were when the Chanel was new :) I enjoy the sass lol
(One of your first subscribers)
Anyone else here after watching Last Wish
Of course. Puss in boots is a legend.😸👌
@Joseph Romano a legend that will never- 🔔
@@valentinkambushev4968 (whistling in the distance)
awesome vid, but that jawline is SHARP AF WTF
There is also an animated series on Netflix which is a fun watch even if it is meant for kids!
This kinda explains Kitty Softpaws’ lack of trust between the 2 films.
I had built a library for my children, before we were made homeless, most of the books were lost but I managed to keep hold of a collection of traditional tales, the master cat is in there, might be under a different title and possibly a retelling but has always been one of their faves!