Utah ‘Karen’ Faces Sexual Battery Charge After Tugging on Teen’s Skirt
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Ida Ann Lorenzo was in a crowded Utah restaurant earlier this month when police say she thought a person’s skirt was too short, so she pulled down on it. Lorenzo believed the girl was nude under the skirt and was exposing herself. The victim says that’s not true. Video of the confrontation between the 19-year-old and Lorenzo has since gone viral. Law&Crime’s Jesse Weber discusses the situation and the consequences with trial attorney Brian Claypool.
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incognito in google, isn't that an oxymoron?
we need modesty laws
EXCUSE ME? 11:40, That is NOT why the jury would find Trump guilty. The guest just tried to mislead this whole audience, or he don't have the facts.
LAW and CRIME, please ask your guest not to push his political ideas here.
Yeah, but if it is a short skirt, don’t worry, it would be what would happen if you pull it too far down due to the length of of the skirt that would make it even worse than in the first place
Imagine yanking on a stranger's clothes and then crying that your life has been threatened when your behavior is exposed lmaoooo
”Behavior is exposed”? How about growing a pair and not making a criminal case about someone ”yanking on your clothes”
@@Settiis umm kay. Until it's your daughter and someone is pulling on her skirt in public. You are sick.
@@Settiis
How about not yanking on someone’s clothes? A Karen protecting another Karen
🤯
@@jbiehl8478 You wouldn’t survive on the streets that’s for sure
It’s even FUNNIER that she called 911 to report her video going viral and they referred her to the NON-EMERGENCY NUMBER 😂😂😂😂😂
I love it! 😂😂😂😂
“Karen, Call Elon!!”
Definitely! She did it to herself.
😂 ikr lmao
Crazy 😧 what happens when she goes to a pool ? Or a beach?
1. She called the police on herself
2. She thinks her CPS job is a threat on a childless adult
3. She puts raisins in her potato salad
😂
Gurl 😂
😂😂😂😂😂
Sick!😂
Have you seen the MANIACS that are now putting raisins in Chicken Salad??? What has become of these people???
Saying “I work for the State” is the same as saying, don’t you know who I am?!
BINGO!
Ughhhhh you're soooooo right!
I agree and she did show us all who she is! Wow! Ruined her life being the most Karen of the all the Karens.
My favorite line when I worked at the airport
Cop: "You assaulted someone, why did you assault someone?"
Karen: "I mean, I thought she was a minor"
Cop: "THAT'S WORSE! ...do you not see how that's worse?"
Is it though? I mean covering up a minor who’s exposing themselves would be better than covering up an adult doing the same… and conversely letting a minor expose themselves would be worse than letting an adult do it. Just saying.
@@travispratt6327it is worse. It's not anyone's place to touch a child in any manner ,that isn't their's.
@@travispratt6327 handing a minor her jacket and asking if they wanted to cover up or something like that would be perfectly acceptable and reasonable if you realistically think they are showing to much. Walking up and grabbing someone’s skirt to pull on it and then grab their waist is NOT at all appropriate in any situation
@@Hidakaku56 Just don’t go and touch people, just don’t. Also, let’s say the teen was 17, who are you to tell them how to dress? It’s just weird and obsessive controlling behaviour. Therapy needed.
@@travispratt6327I’m gonna put this in caps for you, Travis, since consent is foreign to you: DON’T TOUCH PEOPLE WITHOUT CONSENT AND PERMISSION!!!!! PARTICULARLY CHILDREN!!!!!!!!!!
Why not let it ruin her career? She had no right to put her hands on what she believed to be a minor. If she did have an important position with the state she’s not fit.
What any sane person would've done is probably just go up to the girl and tell her in a slightly lower tone "hey, just letting you know, I think your skirt is riding up, you might want to fix it" and that's it
That would have been the logical outcome if you’re offended, tho most folks would have just moved seats so they didn’t throw up tryna eat their meal.
I would have said "this is the land of the free and in the land of the free, people are free to dress as they please".
The owner should have said, “Get outta here, this is a restaurant. You can’t bring your own burger in.”
Right?! A quiet heads up that she had an underage audience and this situation would have gone completely different.
We don't see the victim's outfit. But doesnt matter she was in the wrong. She seems like the type that calls all transgender people pedophiles@stuartX11
Karen should keep her hands to herself ...its even worse that she thought the girl was underage
Right? That’s what I found creepiest
@@lapinchechismosaI don’t agree with what she did..but it’s “creepy” she mistook her age?? Lol
@@DrivenA111the point is she thought it was more okay to touch a minor in that way.
She’s not a Karen she’s just a Mormon.
@@DrivenA111 no sweet heart, understand better ;)
Oh shes a Karen for sure. Yanking on a strangers skirt, then claiming shes the victim. Mind your business.
As a former child, I was always told to keep my hands to myself
She thought the girl had no underwear and she put her hand under her short skirt.. this is predatory behaviour
@@ACECEE-gc2puYou're part of the problem, perv.
@@ACECEE-gc2pu that's what a SO would say.
Extremely inappropriate but that doesn’t make it predatory…
@@ACECEE-gc2pu Ida, this you 😂
@@sabias3932it does if she thinks the woman was a minor
She actually thinks anyone cares about what she has to say.
She thinks she's important. She basically did the "do you know who I am" move by suggesting her life is now in danger... As if anyone cares about her position. 😂
They do.
As someone who has lived in Utah and has had this very thing done to me on multiple occasions by older women.... This type of culture is encouraged here due to the LDS religion and their incessant preaching of modesty, as well as instituting LDS values as laws due to our Relegislature here.
In fact, I bet she's held up as a hero in her LDS ward, for standing up for purity.
So she thought it was a child but was looking up her skirt?
And reaching under it! People are horrible.
Imagine what the police officer thought when he read her the Miranda warnings regarding self-incrimination. I’m surprised he didn’t say to Ms. Lorenzo, “you do realize you just admitted to committing a crime?”
If there was a law against stupidity, the system would break apart.
I’m from Hawaii and my parents moved to Utah to follow my baby sister (she’s at the uni of Utah) & I showed up wearing my normal everyday clothes from Hawaii & multiple older women made comments directly to me. It was a culture shock for me for sure….
I hate that she said "I work for the state" like that gives her the right to do that.
Shes never been to walmart
Or a Theme Park. 😂
Yea she has. thats a Walmart outfit shes wearing. That's some granny chic only found at Walmart. That milk maiden look. Y'all know she was jealous
😂 Best Comment!
So true.
@@user-ex8xf9fr7u”milk maiden look” lmfao!!!
Baaahahaa!
Why is this Karen so triggered by a young lady’s body? She should be charged, you don’t put your damn hands on ANYONE! It’s nice to see the victims friends had her back. ❤
She's jealous she don't got it. Lol
@@tamaraallison8144100 percent that is what initiated this , ida was jealous of the younger prettier girls in the group having fun probly a little loud. She needs everything to be about her lame job.
Because she's LDS. I say this as someone who has had this done to me in Utah on multiple occasions.
I kept asking where's her husband? Then I realized he left a long long time ago.
Better choices:
1. Leave
2. Turn your back or side to the person
3. Close or cover your eyes
4. Lower or turn your head
5. Speak discreetly, respectfully and privately with the person and if they don’t agree with you go back to the top of the list.
Other children are not your responsibility if their parent is right there.
100% agree. Learn to mind your business Karen.
The Karen’s are out of control.
I agree. The father probably had no problem with the short skirt and it wasn’t her responsibility to even approach that woman.
Exactly or if you really have a problem then speak to the manager… but from all reports, the only people who had any issue with it was that Lorenzo lady! I live in Utah btw, and Hurricane is in Southern Utah, and it is REALLY hot too! It’s Las Vegas levels of hot, so a girl dressing in a skirt around there is completely normal!
When a guy seemingly has his genitals exposed in public hope you say the exact same thing. Turn away or leave. Other's kids aren't your responsibility and mind your own business. 😊
@@eileenintoccia1660 The 10 year old might be mystical. She lied so much in that police interview.
Dig into her personnel file ASAP. “I work for the state” is obviously her excuse to do whatever she wants, if she has kids they definitely need to be protected from her.
I was thinking the same thing - clearly one who will abuse any bit of authority that she has, so she ought not have it.
when i try to search her name on TT now it only gives me people being confronted by CPS. I can't tell if it is her though.
So, she assumed she was nude under the skirt? So she intended to expose someone else's nudity to the families she mentioned? Hmmm
She didn't "assume" it - she seen the bottom of her bottom 😂 isn't that the "in" thing atm a bit like underboob 😊
@@Hannadayflo She did assume. She even admitted that she thought she wasn't wearing anything underneath.
The girl was wearing a type of underwear. It was just skin color, kinda thong. And hopefully that's going to save the 19-year-old from charges herself for exposure.
But the lady did assume. Assuming as in she thought one thing but really was another. You know the definition of assume.
How dare this Karen assume a teen female was nude and attempt to shame her. You cannot grab a teen girls skirt for any reason. She will probably get a plea to a lesser charge
Her assumption does not matter. She’s not the authority on the matter. She had no right to touch anyone regardless of what they were or weren’t doing wrong (unless of coarse it’s a dangerous situation and she’s trying to help someone) she was just angry and thought she was more important and entitled than she actually is. Bottom line=keep your hands to yourself.
No, she attempted to cover up the nudity by pulling the skirt further down the girl's hips, but a better course of action would have been to point out to the young woman that her clothing had ridden up and should be adjusted.
How entitled and out of touch do you have to be to think a minor's private parts are showing and your first reaction is to go up to them and without warning readjust their clothing to your liking
You don't have to be entitled.
Just LDS.
It’s real simple, you cannot put your hands on other people.
Omg, why can't people just MIND THEIR OWN BUSINESS?!
Also why can’t they keep their privates in their clothes????
Why can’t people wear underwear
@@ravenn8560genuine question are you dense?
Note: the answer is yes or yes.
@@ravenn8560 I read underwear elastic leads to cellulite. Also, balls on men need to hang to keep them a few degrees cooler than body temperature in order to make sperm. Underwear also causes yeast or bacterial infections for some. Then it could leak out past simple crotch material if not wearing a panty liner and leave trails of body fluid behind.
@@ravenn8560 she was wearing underwear, karen was telling lies AND even if she wasn't that woman had no right to touch her.
Karens getting out of hand. She had no right putting her hands on that young lady..
Facts...nobody else had an issue except Karen. She needs to mind her own business and keep her hands to herself
On that young "lady" 😂😂😂
@@Hannadayflooh look another Karen
As someone who lives in Utah, this is the most Utah thing I’ve heard.
Guilty as charged. No one has a right to do that
Average Mormon L, crazy lady
we need modesty laws. people can't be left on their own. we get the woke left otherwise...old lady is right
@@ehaaronold lady needs to mind her own business
@ehaaron let me guess, modesty laws should only apply to women? You know, there are countries in the world where they put women in prison for wearing shorts. Maybe you would feel right at home there.
@@ehaaronIf the old lady had been right, and she was naked, it would be indecent exposure and it is a crime
That Karen looks like she asks SA victims what they were wearing as if that's relevant. And probably proceeds to blame them if she deems the outfit "inappropriate"
....But it IS relevant, at times. Let's stop pretending as if appearance has NOTHING to do with the type of energy AND attention we attract.
@@retiredtidepodeater3339Comments like this are so sick. Seek help.
@@retiredtidepodeater3339
Read up on the statistics behind SA: your Dunning-Kruger is showing.
And ye shall know them by their red hats.
@@retiredtidepodeater3339But it’s not relevant. You’re condoning assault based on clothing?
If you know its going to cause a reaction then its on you for inviting the reaction. It doesn't excuse the actual action but you can't honestly say its not like walking through a bear cave.... Just cause they dont have the right to attack doesnt mean its safe to walk through...
If the boy's father didn't react, why would she feel the need to do anything?
An older man , in his right mind, is not going up to a young girl to talk to her about her skirt. He'd move his child away and get a manager.
There is no way as a man would I tell a young girl everything is on show , I would die of embarrassment if I saw anything , I might mention it to a female staff member ,,I would be doing it in the hope the staff member could get the girls dignity back. This woman seemed to do it from a self importance situation , not the young girls dignity.
Because she doesn't look like that anymore, or ever
Cause she was offended.
Only other women judge and shame other women for their dress and yet it's still the patriarchy's fault.
If the girl was underage, Why would you ever even take it upon yourself to touch someone else’s kid as if she was your own kid.
IMAGINE HOW BAD IF A MAN HAD DONE THIS
Why would a man cover up something he wants to see?
If a man wore clothes in a way that someone could interpret exposed genitals and a 10 yr old girl pointed it out? Mind your business eh?
@@quocalocka hahaha fact but some creeps would pull down to see more which does happen. Grated huge gender discrimination with us for sure
I think it's worse it was a woman. Women are usually at ease around other women, our guard isn't up for another women to grab their junk.
The woman had no right to touch her or adjust her skirt.
Karen’s mistake was thinking the victim was her child. It’s always the young woman’s fault for getting attention. It’s never the guys who can’t check themselves that are the problem.
Amen. Say it again (and louder) for the ones in the cheap seats.
Thank you. We need to blame the men
Not even her child, a strangers child who’s dad didn’t feel the need to do anything
Exactly this!
@@user-ex8xf9fr7u In this case, it was a woman.
All could've been avoided if Ida had minded her own doggone business smh
I have social anxiety and it's very difficult for me to leave the house. I'm terrified of strangers touching me. I would sue this woman for everything she has.
✋🤤🤚
I don't have social anxiety, but I have become hopelessly agoraphobic. 😮
for pulling a skirt down? Get a life
I don’t have social anxiety but I have been working from home since 2020 and leaving the house makes me insane because people have lost their damn minds. I would rather just be home with my dogs all day and one includes an insane puppy. But I agree that young lady needs to do a civil case on her. “Karen” should have went to restaurant management and let them handle the issue if there was one which I highly doubt.
@@Crctpc I wholeheartedly agree on all points. Except I don't have a dog, I keep thinking about it, but I am too close to the highway and I don't have any money for a fence, and I find kennels selfish.♥️
Utah really just keeps being the creepiest place
Unwanted touching is still unwanted touching. The fact that she thought it was better when she thought the woman was a minor is bizarre.
For anyone not aware, this is an excellent example of the "holier than thou" population that runs rampant, AND run the state, of Utah. That's just who they are.......
we need modesty laws. holier than thou people is need of the hour now. I was against these religious folks before but now I understand that they are right.
The issue is that a lot of people like her do creepy things to people and claim they don’t under some rule or guideline they claim they are following. People follow us around staring and when they get caught they lie and get angry you even saw them.
Religious people need to stop policing others around them. Just because you're Christian doesn't mean everyone else is. You don't own the world.
@@ehaaronyou think it's ok to touch someone because you don't like the way you're dressed????????
@@ehaaron we don't need modesty laws, we need conservative people to understand that how someone else dresses has literally nothing to do with them
Matthew 18:9
If your eye causes you to stumble, gouge it out and throw it away.
YOUR wandering eyes are not MY problem
I don't work for CPS but I am a mandated reporter and there is absolutely nothing the victim did that would warrant a report.
What a weirdo. Why she thinks putting her hands on a stranger is okay I don’t know.
If jealousy was a person
That part! 💯
copout to say its jealousy. Some women think its protecting the person
@@williamparker7025nope. Stop perving on teenage girls & worry about your own shizz
@@williamparker7025 no it's forsure jealousy a blind man could see that nobody approaches someome like that if they are actually concerned for them based off how they dress. Being a women who's dealt with countless women like this , trust me it's jealousy.
@@williamparker7025 of course she’s jealous, she’s old and unattractive, and believe me, a lot of women can’t handle the presence of pretty young ladies, it makes them even more insecure.
What would BRUCE RIVERS say??? NO SELF-SNITCHING!!!
HE'S THE CRIMINAL LAWYER
I'm sure he would find this case very amusing. 😂
Ida, has lost her mind. She needs to keep her hands to herself. Ida should NEVER have touched that young lady, she had no right to do what she did! Ida mind your own business!
Karen*
I do wish her name wasn’t Ida.
@@idahardy4052Who da Karen? Ida Karen! Sorry. I'll see myself out.
@@DXTRIPLEHBK😂
@@idahardy4052❤
The father of the 10 year old "did nothing about it" because there was nothing to do except to tell his son to avert his eyes. There are always people in the world who are wearing things that we would not or things we don't approve of. Raise your kids to look somewhere more wholesome if short skirts or bared bellies offend you.
I wish I could upvote this 100 times!
The father did nothing because he was totally enjoying the view lol
He probably wanted to bodyslam Ida when she tugged the skirt down
@@yankeecitygirl Could have. 😂😂😂
I question that a 10 yr old even exists. She a liar too.
What if this Karen were a middle-aged guy that pulled a young woman's skirt down and used the excuse she is using. How would that go over?
This video and the ridiculous comments would be very very very different.
He would quite rightly get arrested and charged..and no normal man is crazy enough to try doing what this woman did ..
Well I mean this woman is def being charged... buuut ..only 18/100 women come forward about SA, only 23% of that even go to trial and only 24% of that 23% of that 18% even end in conviction... most men get a slap on the wrist and some anger management, are allowed to have kids in their house even if their charge was against a child, Sooooo f**d up but that's the world we exist in unfortunately. These things are not taken seriously enoigh. Hopefully this Karen learns from this and doesn't do this to anyone again.
Have you even read the comments? People are furious...@@TinkOutLoud
Literally the same way it's going now. Nobody agrees with her, everyone is mad at her, and she was arrested.
If a man did that he would be in prison.
No American system is bad
How long did they give you?
What the heck is up with Utah? This case added to the Franke case(s) makes me wonder what is going on in the general psyche of the state.
Mormonism...
It’s the Mormons. They think everyone should abide by their rules.
Did you know Idaho has a higher percentage of LDS population than UT? Everywhere is going nuts. Everything is expensive, our leadership is a crap shoot. I could go on but won't.
Over 55% of the population is Mormon. Over 90% of their legislature is Mormon. It's literally a cult-run state. And that's horrifying.
More and more Mormon news everyday…..
The only party who should have had anything say would have been the restaurant management. If the young woman’s outfit was acceptable to their dress policy, Karen should have left it to them and minded her own business.
Management should have stopped this long before it got to this place. It's clear Ida is annoying peaceful customers.
As a former LDS member, I am just not shocked by the behavior of St George Karen. Women leaders in the church just feel like they have the Christian duty to monitor other peoples clothes. Recently at their General Conference, it was instructed in several talks for women to get out of their yoga pants and back into their religious garments. Go figure why this Karen would do this.
That reminds me of Afghanistan's "modesty police". Some Americans would be more comfortable in that society.
LDS should quiet down a bit ... not a nice picture of their "faith"
Had a few LDS co-workers. I only remember asking questions about their "rules" and they would talk about "spirit of the law" vs "letter of the law" and each individual deciding.
But, these dudes were way on the liberal side of LDS.
LSD member !!!!??????🤦🏽♂️
Christian duty 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 omg, Americans 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
Super creepy. Karen should consider herself lucky she didn't get a face full of elbow!
she thinks because she works for the state she has power
She's got robert telles syndrome
No one ha the right to act as the morality police. If you’re so offended look away or call the police. If this was a man that tugged her skirt there would be no debate on guilt.
The first woman was bothered by a teen wearing a mini skirt because her husband was probably looking and she was jealous she never looked like these girls in her life😂 has way too much time on her hands.
This
we need modesty laws.
@@ehaaron💯
@ehaaron You wear modest clothing then and be happy, you don't get to tell others what to wear.
@@ehaaronNo we don't because it's a free country. Your personal beliefs don't dictact my behavior
In my opinion, this had nothing to do with some misguided concern for minors, and everything to do with an adult-sized drama ninny's power trip... When the victim didn't immediately apologize and promise to change her clothing style to placate, Karen started using words like "CPS" and "file a public exposure report" in hopes to scare a victim who wouldn't know any better. But when that didn't work, she grabbed at her clothes to humiliate her and 'put her in her place' anyway. Despicable behavior. She has no place treating people like her personal barbie dolls... & She has no place being in a position of power.
Karens are getting worse istg.
You said it. Some people get an ounce of power and think they are on the clock 24 7. Just eat your meal and move tables if you see something you don’t like eg a prettier girl.
No she pulled on the skirt first.
The Aunt Lydia of the restaurant.
LDS church has lot of power in Utah they might agree with Karen side of the story I would not be surprised to see her get a plea deal to a much lesser charge.
I’m so mad for the victim when Karen defames her claiming genetelia was exposed. Obviously the girl was dressed and covered and the length of her skirt was none of Karen’s business. Katen should face some jail time
how do you know it wasnt exposed?
Because absolutely no one else said anything. Seriously, if anything was exposed, the restaurant hostess and management would not have let the girl stay in the waiting area.
They said she had evidence to prove she wasn’t exposing anything.
@@williamparker7025 because all the witnesses said so numbbuts
For real! Obviously if the vaginal area was truly exposed….police or someone would have for sure been called or multiple people would have witnessed. Who goes commando in a mini skit anyway? Come on lady, you are a liar and you know it.
And no idea why that lawyer doesn’t think she needs to go on the SO list. If a man had done the same exact thing he’d 100% be on the SO list. Giving women passes for SA needs to STOP
Because it was a misdemeanor and not a felony.
He is a California attorney said didn't know if that could happen obviously he would advise her to admit to being wrong, and get a plea deal to stay off that list.
Wow. Even Wilma and Betty have been wearing miniskirts with both shoulders exposed since 10,000 BC.
It's not that hard to keep your hands to yourself! 🤷♂️ She deserves to be charged. 👍
Wow this is so outrageous . Touching anyone without permission is ridiculous !
I thought the moral police was only in places like Iran.
if this woman had her way all young women would look like her
Yea the Americans r upset bout this. Yet they shoot and kill people all the time. What a mad place America is lol
Are you very naive?
Even if you actually are that offended by what someone is or isn't wearing, would this church lady's best option not have been to speak to the restaurant manager and then allow management to address the girl's attire based on a dress code for the establishment if one existed?
Its so bloody pathetic how people now are just vigilantes up in everyone's face about everything. Whatever happened to see no evil hear no evil? Simply mind your business.
The 10 year old child wasn't even hers to worry about. Finally, what happens when you pull the girl's skirt down and actually rip it off? Now, you are causing the very problem you want to solve. Do not touch people unsolicited.
Just looks like a normal skirt to me, and even if it wasn’t what business is it of hers?
😂😂😂😂😂😂
Some middle-aged women are super insecure and angry that younger women are exponentially more attractive than they are. They also have the karen mindset that anyone or anything that makes them feel inadequate and triggered must be against the law and therefore they are entitled to make threats and "report" it. Basically they are busy bodies who put their nose into other people's business because they're deeply insecure and angry.
@@Hannadayflosettle down grandma
@@otttx8368 is that designed to be abusive? I was once 18 and 19 but I was never a hooker. I am also not a grandma 😢
3:23 she needs to be arrested for calling 911
Keep your hands to yourself & call police and/or inform management if someone is exposing themselves. (Which wasn't the case here it seems.)
Again Utah people think they are above everyone and everything shocker
Utah? All of Utah? Every single person. 🙄
@@-greentoad Mostly just Utah county people if you know you know
It's not illegal to not wear underwear. I'm glad those young girls stood up for themselves to that Karen.
No one said it is
If she works for government or is a public servant, I suspect she may no longer be employed. Standards of Conduct may come into play since she identified her employer and they won’t want to be associated Ewing her behaviour. Talk about entitlement! Morality police?
utah is the home base of morality police
People need to worry about themselves and their own lives. Don't put your hands on other people. Don't worry about what others are wearing. How would she feel if someone thought what she was wearing was too "provocative" and started tugging on her clothes? Guaranteed she would be livid and offended.
Utah sounds like a nightmare cultural wasteland
Mormons everywhere. Including in the government. The daybell murders, the 8 passengers child abuse cases, abusive boarding schools, that guy who murdered his family because they were not living up to the standards of the church… they are unwell as a group and it definitely spills into their legislative agenda
That's what your parents say about u.
Lol Utah Utah'ing again. Sick state.
Mormons be like this
Has nothing to do with Mormons. There are sickos and weirdo's and Karens in All states. So @Autumnnss is your state perfect. 😂
Bruh every Christian is like this
@@KayentaRojo not the orthodox we keep to our selves. I would say Protestants are they are quite annoying at times.
Only about maybe 20% of the state is just not right in the head. The rest of us try hard to just live our lives and not let the crazies win. But sadly those crazies do like to come up with some amazingly creative ways to make the world worse for their existence.
Karen should keep her hands to herself. It doesn’t matter if those girls weren’t wearing undergarments underneath her skirt. That isn’t criminal. What is criminal is Karen grabbing her and underneath her skirt
But they were wearing underwear so..
A 10 year old kid is more likely to be thinking of playing Minecraft not that some young woman is wearing a short skirt!! IMHO Ida was showing more by wearing skin tight jeans that looked painted onand just needs to mind her own business!!
He may have just not seen a woman in a shorter skirt before given this was utah. Kids are told about modesty and about the garments they're supposed to wear later in life in mormonism. He probably grew up surrounded by people who dress a certain way and never wear tank tops or shorts past a certain length.
Maybe he was wondering why she wasn't wearing the garments or why she was wearing something hed been told was immodest. It's not the end of the world for a kid to see people that don't dress the same way their culture does (minus actually showing genitals; which I 100% don't believe the lady's claim that this girls genitals were showing 🙄). Just talk to the boy about how other people don't share your views and if it's distressing, to look somewhere else and not stare
I'm sure she would feel differently If someone with stricter modesty standards came up to her and covered her legs with a jacket bc she's wearing pants instead of a skirt. Or if someone pulled her top up because revealing your neck isn't modest ect. Modesty is a personal choice and everyone has different views on it for *THEMSELVES*
Those girls were nice.... because ma'am, you could have FOUND OUT. backhand for respect....
Ok, creepy? How old are you?
I've been around so long I've seen girls like this get treated like this from older women, then watch those same girls grow up and do the same thing to their own daughters and her friends! It never ends guys.
all stems from low self esteem when they get older and less attractive... its nasty stuff
A friend of mine dressed skimpily during the 70's - 90's, she practically wore dental floss to the pool and the beach, and now complains about the way girls are dressed!
😂😂😂
@@epicpurevids The worst is when the mother competes with the daughter for men's attention. It is sick.
I’m in my 40s and still wear crop tops🤷🏻♀️
I obviously do look like this karen.
@@peacelove7437 I only ever owned one, it was a regular T-shirt that I bought cropped in 1983, I took it to a T-shirt store and had "ANIMAL" in red velvet letter's across the chest! And, never was brave enough to wear it. 😂
I believe the proper response to a woman grabbing your dress like that goes as follows.
"Ummm, BATCH?!?" 😂😂😂
perhaps the miniskirt was positioned inappropriately, but a strange woman coming up and touching a younger woman's skirt to 'pull it down' is even more inappropriate. Especially as this is a rather young woman being handled by a much older woman. It gives all kinds of creep vibes, whether the moral code enforcer meant it that way or not.
Ugh.. I miss the days when people minded their own fcking business
I miss the days where children didn’t have to see other people’s genitals in public places
@@annc.3908 They weren't showing! 🤦🏻♀️
When was that?
@@annjepsen1621I think she means when women were covered up more and showed less skin
nope. we need modesty laws. people can't be left on their own. we get the woke left otherwise...
Knowing personally, the "idiologies" of Southern Utahs locals; she was using her job and St. George CPS office to bully these young ladies. They do ot allllllll the time. The CPS office is corrupt and has been for decades
Of she saw the young girls privates, why couldn't she give a description of what she saw 😮
This woman is legally illiterate though because what is CPS going to do to a childless 19yo woman? You call cps on PARENTS.
6:03 this has to be the easiest affidavit these officers ever wrote.
Right fighters always sing like Canary's to their own detriment, or at least they did while I was a LEO.
😂😂😂
How about going to the restaurant manager and asking them to say something to the girl, asking her to leave, if she's dressed inappropriately for the place and the kids around? It usually doesn't work out well when you approach a stranger in an aggressive manner.
Ya like if you want to be a “Karen” there are other ways like you explained
It’s always the old insecure women
Also Mormons
Yep!! I’m 37yo and you should see the insane looks I get anytime I wear a skirt or dress when I’m out with my husband..who is much older than me btw.
In the 8yrs we’ve been together, I bet we’ve had at least 40-50 side eyes and dirty looks ALL from women over 50!! 🙄
we need modesty laws in this country. It's getting out of hand. monsters walking among us.
The older lady is right here. modesty laws is the need of the hour
@@ehaaronYou need to go touch grass. If seeing someone else's body in clothing gives you improper thoughts then you need to seek therapy
Lady was being a bully.
With this happening in Utah..
There's a high chance that there would be a person on the Jury that is going to have some type of sympathy/ side with her.
What!?! You can't be touching people without consent.
What did she think tugging on the teen’s skirt would do? Turn it into pants?! 🤦🏼♀️
Lol 😂
That's a weird take. I assume you are too big to have ever worn a mini skirt yourself?
Imagine if a guy did that and his defense was that he thought she was a minor…
double standards in this country; don't believe me ~ follow the SA cases concerning female vs male teachers and thier victims.
Fr. She did this so boldly cos she honestly thought she was going to get away with it unlike a man in the same situation.
She deserved that arrest. Both women and men need to keep their hands to themselves.
She could have just discreetly told the woman that her skirt was hiked up instead of touching her.
What does she think demonstrating this kind of behavior in front of a 10 year old boy would do?
As a Utahn, born and raised, this happens more often than you would think.
It should become a legal case more often then.
Oh, I believe it.
Wow. Ok, then please stop.
Touching people without consent is assualt, this karen thought she was above everyone she didn't agree with
If neither the 10 year old, or the woman she thought was a minor, are your child, it's not your business. If it's not child abuse, stop being traumatized by other people's choices.
That ‘unconcerned father’ probably knew better than to speak to young girls about their skirts, just to avoid this very thing about being viewed 8 million times on media. Smart guy.
“You’re probably a minor..”
Then you DEFINITELY should not be touching her…
That older woman had absolutely no right touching that young woman!
So many people on here ok with this, which is sick. If i disagree with the color red and you have a red shirt on, dont come around here. Yall justify any violation of someone else because of your supposed moral superiority.
THIS! ❤💯
Charge her. Her behavior was grossly inappropriate.
Just like a Karen to get offended by being called a Karen after acting like a Karen😅
She should have just minded her own business. Unfortunately, if she was bold enough to do that in the first place then try to make herself the victim, refusing to take accountability, she's not going to learn. I wonder if she's just one of those people who uses conflict to seek validation.
I read the title as ‘ultra Karen’ instead of Utah 😂😂
I mean she is beyond the pale lol
oh she's ultra all right... 🤣
does she work for the taliban?
No, they are in Michigan in Omar's disitrict.