The History Of The Piston Honda 2 World Record

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Komentáře • 74

  • @SummoningSalt
    @SummoningSalt Před 7 měsíci +189

    Pissed on Honda 2

  • @corydoraspartan
    @corydoraspartan Před 7 měsíci +49

    Of course Summoning Salt got a world record on his 69th face jab

  • @jaythatguyyouknow5135
    @jaythatguyyouknow5135 Před 7 měsíci +43

    I love the fact that it seems Summing Salt is still a bro in this community and takes time to help people document the history of MTPO

  • @abcder733
    @abcder733 Před 7 měsíci +14

    “She dizzy on my gut til I destroy her”
    -Little Mac, probably

  • @commanderproton7763
    @commanderproton7763 Před 7 měsíci +52

    Seeing all the TAS stuff mentioned across these videos kinda makes me interested in a Punch-Out TAS history. Like how each were developed and how each maker discovered new strats, as well how many of them impacted the game.

  • @twinstarMD
    @twinstarMD Před 7 měsíci +92

    Yo, I made it in the video!! haha! awesome stuff, as usual ;) I'd say sub one minute Honda 2 is one of the most satisfying TKO's in the game. Such a deep and interesting history for this one!

    • @stronkgod6180
      @stronkgod6180 Před 7 měsíci +3

      Legend says that mr dream was never loved by the punch out community
      Sad for mr dream

    • @Victini862
      @Victini862 Před 6 měsíci +1

      ​​@@stronkgod6180 Mr.Dream isn't Mike Tyson.
      Poor Mr.Dream

  • @neonprotegewrestling9147
    @neonprotegewrestling9147 Před 5 měsíci +3

    I love how the first half of every video is explaining the fight, and the lead up to Matt Turk taking the record. Then the second part is Sinister coming in, and how they beat Matt, and took it to now. It is a really nice way to structure the videos

  • @notZabami
    @notZabami Před 7 měsíci +5

    I love how Summoning salt is referred to as Mr. "Frame" Perfect.

  • @SmugLookingBarrel
    @SmugLookingBarrel Před 7 měsíci +11

    Fitting for a fight as good as this one, I think this is the greatest video you've ever made. It goes through various strategies and eras, each one adding new knowledge and keeping things fresh, the explanations are clear enough that someone not familiar with the game can understand it, it has all the famous punch-out runners making contributions, and it also has something that no other non-trivial fight does: A defined start and end, starting just before the 1 minute counter and ending at the TAS tie.

  • @martinfell9126
    @martinfell9126 Před 7 měsíci +9

    Sinister1's honda 2 strategy evolution video was what finally convinced me to try speedrunning this game, so seeing an updated history is something special, great video!

    • @Papamanual
      @Papamanual  Před 7 měsíci +6

      Yes, that was a very awesome video that I watched several times back in the day. Completely bewildered by what was possible in the game.

  • @damiencouturee6240
    @damiencouturee6240 Před 7 měsíci +5

    Damn I love these videos lol. I only got to play punch out once when I was like 5 on grandma's NES lol. I dont think I ever even beat glass joe, I was 5 lmao

    • @damiencouturee6240
      @damiencouturee6240 Před 7 měsíci +5

      And you know, I just noticed how good the graphics in this game are. Like of course I've watched a lot of stuff about the game but I actually just took a minute and really looked and yeah, for NES it's really incredibly detailed. There's even glare on the corners of the ring (turnbuckle?), folds in the clothing, realistic muscle definition and facial features, it's really cool lol.

  • @jdurg
    @jdurg Před 7 měsíci +12

    Another absolutely fantastic video Pap. This one is my favorite by far as it breaks down the mechanics behind the fight and really incorporates a lot of the tech that makes this game work.

  • @ForumArcade
    @ForumArcade Před 6 měsíci +2

    You choose a lot of interesting music for your videos, and I'm always happy when I recognize songs from fairly obscure titles, like the first Pokémon Mystery Dungeon game.

  • @janetenuto6092
    @janetenuto6092 Před 7 měsíci +2

    it's crazy how TAS discoveries have as much history as the human records, so cool! I'm imagining a dedicated video about it. It would be a great video.

  • @stereoberryes
    @stereoberryes Před 7 měsíci +2

    I love these videos so much, you explain things that seem so complicated so well!!! love the music choices and editing too

  • @BrianRosenbergMusican
    @BrianRosenbergMusican Před 7 měsíci +1

    Thank you for making this series I started speeding running MTPO because of it. Playing the game at higher level is a bit more difficult than expected. Its a good way to relax.

  • @maxmustermann5590
    @maxmustermann5590 Před 7 měsíci +2

    Amazing work as always Pab!

  • @IamPurezz
    @IamPurezz Před 7 měsíci +1

    Thanks for the amazing content as always, what a pleasure to watch!

  • @kentnewsworthy9229
    @kentnewsworthy9229 Před 7 měsíci +1

    Excellent video as always

  • @but9l471
    @but9l471 Před 7 měsíci +4

    Yay, another long and interesting video

  • @drengnikrafe
    @drengnikrafe Před 7 měsíci

    Wow. It feels like every nook and cranny of hidden game mechanics had to be deeply dug into to break so many barriers. What a fascinating and incredibly technical fight, broken down into understandable bite size pieces by this excellent video. Thank you, Pap.

  • @GrannySingaporePVP
    @GrannySingaporePVP Před 7 měsíci +4

    Holy shit! What a way to wake up! PH2 Pap vid?? It’s gonna be a good day!

  • @A_Lazy_dude
    @A_Lazy_dude Před 7 měsíci +1

    My uncle told me this was difficult when he was young and oh my goodness I can thank you for bringing him back to his nostalgia

  • @rewandemontay
    @rewandemontay Před 7 měsíci

    I can see why this one took a bit! Lovely work as always.

  • @breethewithme
    @breethewithme Před 7 měsíci +1

    Great video! Love your content!

  • @Ducking69
    @Ducking69 Před 7 měsíci +1

    Another brilliant video

  • @joebeezy9471
    @joebeezy9471 Před 7 měsíci

    Love your videos!

  • @ShamanJeeves
    @ShamanJeeves Před 7 měsíci

    I'm not a huge Punch Out fan, but your documentaries are engrossing nonetheless. Subscribed!

  • @Bobbing4Fries
    @Bobbing4Fries Před 7 měsíci

    Great video pap! GGs all.

  • @kingofgirth8609
    @kingofgirth8609 Před 4 měsíci

    Your channel is so underrated its mad

  • @KumongaStrikes
    @KumongaStrikes Před 7 měsíci

    This has to be my favorite one in the series. It just goes to show that even with a speedrun like this with very little RNG, there are a lot of different button combos and specific timing required in order to even make this fight possible. Those few players that have managed to tie the TAS truly show how dedicated with time and practice they are willing to put in for this effort and what others could possibly try to do in the future. Not just with Punch Out but with speed runs in general.

  • @Vitorruy1
    @Vitorruy1 Před 7 měsíci +1

    love this series

  • @ThatLazyyGuy
    @ThatLazyyGuy Před 7 měsíci +2

    I’m going to be sad when this series eventually ends

  • @nefigah
    @nefigah Před 7 měsíci +4

    Ohh, I'm glad you covered the "dizzy destroyer" in more depth here. You have mentioned it in several other videos, but it wasn't clear to me what was special about it. If I understand correctly, it's a fast/consistent technique for getting 2 punches in situations that require guard manipulation, compared to the old way of manip guard -> punch, manip guard -> punch. Is there no way to continue the dizzy destroyer into a 3rd punch?

    • @Papamanual
      @Papamanual  Před 7 měsíci +3

      Correct, there is no way to connect it into a 3rd punch without doing another guard manipulation which takes 5 frames.
      There are a couple of other punch combo's that can be used (they dont have fancy names and they feature towards the end of the video (from about the 41.48 zallard time) and they are 4 punch combos but they require a delay after the second punch to let Honda's guard adjust. So they still boil down to 1 guard manip per 2 punches landed.
      There is also a "Reverse Dizzy Destroyer" which after a setup is a delayed face punch into misdirected gut punch that can be cycled over and over and this can be done with the right gut punch (making it deal 10 damage over 2 punches) but this was found after McHazards 2013 TAS and thus doesnt have the practical uses it would have if it was found prior.

  • @assaf_jerry
    @assaf_jerry Před 7 měsíci +1

    How do you have so little subscribers tho?
    Really love your videos, they are really interesting and just kinda fun yaknow?

  • @gogopowerrangers-gogo
    @gogopowerrangers-gogo Před 7 měsíci

    Again man knocked it out the park! Gotta see you jump into more PS1 games, maybe ps2?

    • @Papamanual
      @Papamanual  Před 7 měsíci

      Ive started one about another PS1 game, but unfortunately, the first person I talked to kinda forgot to get back to me with info... and the category isnt as exciting as I thought it would be... I might end up finishing it eventually though :D

    • @gogopowerrangers-gogo
      @gogopowerrangers-gogo Před 7 měsíci

      a possible hint to this game?@@Papamanual

    • @Papamanual
      @Papamanual  Před 7 měsíci

      @@gogopowerrangers-gogo Sorry no hints

  • @audeng8485
    @audeng8485 Před 7 měsíci

    NEW PAP VIDEO LET’S GO

  • @TheCheezler
    @TheCheezler Před 7 měsíci

    Wild

  • @stealthyshadow567
    @stealthyshadow567 Před 7 měsíci +1

    This probably goes hard idk yet

  • @cleveland_tom
    @cleveland_tom Před 7 měsíci +1

    it always comes down to high score strats in the end...

  • @cougar2013
    @cougar2013 Před 7 měsíci +1

    Funny enough, going for “early eyebrows” is how I ended up married, if you know what I mean 😅

  • @jimmergames
    @jimmergames Před 7 měsíci +1

    Someone get summoning salt

  • @sarahruble5892
    @sarahruble5892 Před 2 měsíci

    Me who got the 1 min .99 time as a casual first timer (: . Also I call the three jab punch the “mini Honda rush” because of the uppercut right after.

  • @Protoman3
    @Protoman3 Před 2 měsíci

    Could someone explain this to me: when you punch PIston honda, his head gets knocked backwards, but sometimes it gets knocked to the side. Is this determined by RNG?

    • @Papamanual
      @Papamanual  Před 2 měsíci +1

      Yes its RNG, but it they are the same speed... only on the NTSC version.

  • @user-xo2iw6lz2n
    @user-xo2iw6lz2n Před 7 měsíci +1

    yeah boiii, it's time for some hOwEvErS 😍

  • @antimattered69
    @antimattered69 Před 7 měsíci +1

    I dont feel qualified enough to comment under this video

  • @Megukagi
    @Megukagi Před 6 měsíci

    I wonder if there's a challenge run where you have to beat all 14 fights without letting the opponent throw a punch. speedrunning tech would be useful, but I imagine the route would be different to a normal speedrun

    • @Papamanual
      @Papamanual  Před 6 měsíci +2

      You cant beat Don 1 without him throwing a punch, since you need to dodge 1 in order to deal any damage (same reason why a dodgeless run is impossible)
      Bull2 is technically possible, but RNG is gonna be insane
      Sandman and Tyson are also impossible, you wont be able to stall long enough before you pink.

    • @Megukagi
      @Megukagi Před 6 měsíci

      @@Papamanual interesting. thanks for answering this random idea of mine

    • @Protoman3
      @Protoman3 Před 2 měsíci

      @@Papamanual how about "How many (opponent's) punches are needed to beat Mike Tyson's Punch Out?"

  • @p0r0st
    @p0r0st Před 7 měsíci

    poland lets gooo 🇵🇱🇵🇱🇵🇱

  • @lankymaccrazyhair264
    @lankymaccrazyhair264 Před 7 měsíci

    I'm blaming you that I got into GTA V music.

  • @brandoncool63
    @brandoncool63 Před 7 měsíci +5

    There was never any confusion with 22 second knock down . I tied 39.97 tas with powerpak before Salts 40.61. First person to get face jab in P2 but you know that. It was the catalyst for H2 attempts. Sinister1 didn't recieve a file of my variation of the tas instead of Mchazard's actual tas, like you show in video. I changed punch sequence and split up both frame prefect max damage uppercuts to make it easier. No player has executed full Mchazard H2 tas strategy.

  • @cougar2013
    @cougar2013 Před 7 měsíci +1

    Let’s go Brandon!!

  • @TheBoxingGOD
    @TheBoxingGOD Před 7 měsíci +5

    First

  • @DirtyMoneyHipHop
    @DirtyMoneyHipHop Před měsícem

    I beat Piston Honda 2 in about 30 seconds. I dodged his first 3 punches and his first uppercut and then hit him with a high, right punch and he instantly went down at about 15 seconds. Then he got up and did his special move right away and I punched him in the gut and he went down at about 30 seconds and never got up. I can't even finish the game, don't have video proof, and it was sheer luck on my part, but others who are far better than me at this game should try and replicate what I did. It worked for me. Cheers.

    • @yellowdicesam
      @yellowdicesam Před 25 dny +2

      I really hope this is ironic lmao

    • @kevinkehoe9950
      @kevinkehoe9950 Před 14 dny +1

      Probably did this on round 2/3 ​@@yellowdicesam