Wet Forming a Bushcraft Leather water Bottle/Canteen
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- čas přidán 16. 09. 2017
- My first try at Making a Leather water bottle for traditional camps , It wasn't all plain sailing, But it was a brilliant lesson on how not to do it
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Love the video! I especially appreciate when someone is man enough to let others learn from their mistakes. Thank you for showing us what happens when the wax is too hot!!
I kove the joke about the folded side being "less likely" to leak. Genuinely made me laugh
Can I just say THANK YOU for not stuffing this video full of loud, obnoxious music? The enjoyment of watching someone who knows what they're doing is always delightful and it always detracts from the video to have annoying, obnoxious music blaring during the fast forwards and non speaking scenes.
No worries
Nice one! Thanks for sharing your errors as well as your successes, we all benefit:). For lost wax casting I melt bees wax and pine resin together(best smell everrr) to make the bees wax harder when it cools.. It struck me that using them melted together for this job might work too. All the best Lee
Great job. I am going to make these for me and for my wife. We do medieval living history and this is perfect for our use. Just a thought but I plan to leave the grain used for shaping inside when I wax the outside and use a heat gun to help the leather pull the wax into for a boiled effect. I plan to use brewer's pitch on the inside as it is more durable and has a higher melting temp than the beeswax.
Just don't get the pitch too hot like I did, good luck with the project
What a great video to watch, thanks for this.
much cleverly stuff mr bruce and as always well explained and interesting..fanx for another good build video!
Very good, could be a market for bushcraft colostomy bags😉
Great idea and good lessons learnt
Nice little piece of jackware! Real good for a first attempt, especially since it worked as desired... no real issues there as aesthetics are NOT an important issue with Bush crafting...
Great video!
Cuir Bouilli
maybe a thought. Make a form with knives and a rasp. Stretch boiled leather over the form and clamp in place. After it has cooled remove the form. Brush in beeswax/ethanol to water proof interior and resin for the perimeter. Join halves with copper rivets and stitch together the halves in between the rivets and the void of the canteen.
I don't know if I have explained that well.
yes, i made a wet forming mould for leather possibles pouch a couple of videos back, that is what gave me the idea to make the bottle. I just wanted to give the traditional method a go using grains to form it
atb Bruce
Hi mate that was awesome loved it mate see you soon Keith
Thanks Keith , see ya soon mate
Love it. I wish I had one
awesome, turned out well :)
Thanks man, I was a little dissapointed about over heating it , all part of the learning curve
atb Bruce
Now that's just too cool. Can you please give us a review after first use? Thanks for sharing.
yes I definitely will , I may have to re upload anyway as this has just had a strike for not being advertiser friendly.
would love to know why , but it will never get 1000 views in a week so i will never know.
Brilliant
any update or a rebuild in the future? this is the methodology i plan to utilize to create my first leather bottle, brilliant design and work.
the bottle is still going strong no leaks yet , but i have been very careful handling it . Ive been really busy at work so all my leather videos have taken a back seat for a while , I hope to get back at it when the weather improves
thanks for watching
Atb Bruce
Epic for a first go..
thanks Bud , should have taken my time on it , but lots of lessons learnt its amazing how the wax affects how hard the leather is too once it soaks in
atb Bruce
Wild Ginger Bruce Maybe do test strips of leather off cuts..
looks good always wondered how they were made
+LG4 OUTDOORS I would to know too lol
Thanks Matt
Atb Bruce
Great idea, and great shape. Very practical and really like it. Unfortunate about the hot pan and what it did to the leather. really would like to see how it gets on over time.
+Tinky Pete I used it at a camp this weekend, it worked well, no taint I the water either.
I didn't get a chance to film as there was a lot of little kids there. But I'll do an update vid o it again soon
Thanks for the heads up. I really like the traditional style of it, not in shape but the method. I have some leather to try out some projects and I think I have a new one to add to the list. Thanks a again
I really love the video!!!! Im sorry if I missed this but what glue did you end up using to seal up the edges?
Great project there Bruce and really well done I don't even think over heating the leather made it look that bad it gave it more of a textured aged look
+Tim Robson it looks like me now, lol
Atb Bruce
Wild Ginger Bruce hahaha good one
That's wy it's so cool because it's different ...
I very much enjoyed your video. I have never seen one of these made before. I was just wondering wouldn’t it be possible to put a bag from say a camelbak inside before folding it over and stitching it up? The off brand bladders come in many different sizes. If you use one it would eliminate the possibility of a leak. Also it would allow you to fill it with air instead of grain for expanding it. When done cut off the end of the bladder flush with the spout. Stick a cork in and your done. Of course you would need to glue the bladder to the leather before sealing it up. But to me I think it would work much better. Or am I completely missing the point and this video is meant to show how they where made long ago? Regardless I really enjoyed watching your video. It was very interesting and informative. It’s unfortunate you overheated the was causing a bit of damage to your bottle. But you learn more from a mistake then you do from an accomplishment. Had that not happened I would not have known it was possible to overheat the leather with wax. I would have thought the hatter the better. Thank you for posting and sharing what you have learned. Much respect.
Yes you could line it with plastic like a camelbak, but then it would just be a perfectly useable water carrier covered in leather, which also makes it too easy
this was just a play with traditional leather bushcraft bottle. Its still watertight after all these years. Even if i did mess it up and burn the leather 🤣🤣
@@WildGingerBruce thank you for the reply. I guess I missed the point of the video. My apologies. Regardless I was still very interested in your video and after watching it I’m going to give it a try. A try as in the traditional bushcraft method you explained in your very detailed video. Thank you again for posting it.
It was a great comment, it actually got me thinking, of making a protective cover for my camel back for when i go hiking, it much more likely to get damaged when im storing it than when im using it in the mountains.
Thanks for the input,
Atb Bruce
@@WildGingerBruce thank you sir. I’m very happy you found it useful. I do look forward to your next project video.
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Have you been using your canteen Bruce and how is it holding up?
yeah it still works well , but i am careful with it , im worried the internal wax and sap might crack .
Lovely I also want it
Thanls for watching, its still holding up well with no leaks,
All the best
Bruce
Pls tell me how can I purchase it
Can u sale it to me I'm from India'
@@munawerkhatoon8620 I never sell any of my work, i prefer to show others how to make their own,
@@WildGingerBruce but the required materials are not available at my place
Not sure if you will see this… why not use pine pitch as the glue for your seams?
Another question…
Can you put whiskey in a costrel?
Hi Lee.... Thats a pretty good idea, i didnt think of doing that, the pine resin is pretty brittle but it should work.
I cant see why whisky wouldn't work it probably wont dissolve the pine resin.
Thanks for watching
Atb Bruce
How often should you clean it when using the leather canteen?
I have one made but can't find out anywhere on how to clean it if need be
I only put fresh water in it, but always empty it, hang it upside down to dry, I've never had to clean it,
Looks like a decent size to clobber Mack Tightwad round the head with as well when he comes knocking on your tarp in the middle of the night
Ha ha , not much chance of Mack being awake any time of the day.
You really only need to wet the leather until bubbles stop rising. The leather is then soaked. Even that is really not necessary. Just run it under a tap on both sides. That is fine in my experience. I am going to try making one myself.
I work really slowly, especially when I'm filming,, so I want it as wet as I can get it, it's still water tight after all this time, even if its a bit ugly. I should make another one tbh
Thanks for watching
Atb Bruce
Is it possible to soften or make into liquid the pine resin using a solvent like ethanol that would evaporate and leave the pine resin behind?
also.... won't the pine resin flavor the water?
+Paul N yes you can thin down pine resin with Vasaline, petroleum jelly,
I found this out after, it also makes the resin more flexible so it won't crack
The water is never in the bottle very long and the taint will go after a few uses
Atb Bruce
Not sure how I feel about using rice over popcorn kernels. Moist leather packed with rice seems like you could have some food residue smeared on the inside of your vessel. Probably gets sealed in with wax but still think popcorns the way to go.
I only had rice, i agree corn would be much better,
It was only a test to see if it worked, and it kinda did,
Its still not leaking 3 years on
Atb Bruce
Do you have gourd canteens in the U.K? Our Confederate soldiers often carried gourd canteens. Some were grown in forms that the gourd expanded into to making it rounded with flat sides.
yes i have made a gourd canteen in the past , but it is very hard to dry them quickly , due to the lack of sun in the uk . so a few of them always go mouldy.
How long did the water proofing last you till you had to re apply?
It's still waterproof, just need to be careful not to crush it or the wax may crack
Awesome little project dude, I thought it turned out well, as long as it holds water it's a winner and it looks the part too. How much water does it hold? How does water taste after being stored in it for half a day?
thanks dude, It holds about 1.4 liters , so plenty for a few brews in the woods, Im gonna leave some water in it but ht shouldn't taint too much,
Atb Bruce
Taking into account the materials, process, and fact it works... I reckon that's a serious success... What some might see as issues I just see as patination and distressed character. Can't discard stuff just cos' it looks a bit banged about or uneven. I'd have been f#@%&ed years ago.
Besides... Now I have an idea about how one is made...
Win /Win result ...
Yeah for sure , it adds a certain rustic charm to it. As you say , if others can learn from my mistakes then its all worth it in the end.
Thanks for watching
All the Best
Bruce
I agree with DustyPilgrim1 about the distressed look and I think you got the aesthetics of your design looking spot on. I'd like to see a return of your water bottle once it's aged a bit as I think it's only going to look better. Nice work Bruce.
+Fest Adams thanks buddy, I'm really interested to see how it holds up too
Atb Bruce
Will there be any chemical reactions when we add water .since there is bees wax inside .just curious to know
The water is never in there long enough to react, 24 hours max. its full of pine resin too. It's been a few years and it still works fine
what is the name of that liquid that you put inside to seal it thanks very good job
Hi Miguel, it was pine resin, you can order it from ebay, or spend hours in the woods collecting little bits... But just make sure its not to hot 😂👍👍🔥
thanks for your help blessings my friend
What kind of glue did you use?
Evo stick, solvent free, contact adhesive... Thanks for watching
bees wax...... I thought is was bees wax boiling hot poured INTO the canteen.... Lining the inside. Pour in bees wax, stopper, and shake vigorously.
that is where my problems started , if the wax is too hot it shrinks the leather, the inside did get two good coats of bee wax , and the resin was just for the seam and extra seal
atb Bruce
You need a gusset, really...
what do you mean? like a welt ?
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