It can be summed up really as 1) The typical buyers, Supercars and the like are not generally bought by enthusiasts. Typical buyers are using it as another way to express their wealth and status. 2) Emissions, its a lot easier for manufacturers to make their cars compliment with emissions regulations than with a manual. 3) The link to F1, in most consumer minds a flappy paddle gearbox is basically what LH uses. 4) Standardisation, its more cost effective for car manufacturers to build and design a car with one gearbox inmind. Designing a car for both is a compromise and increases cost 5) Instant gratification culture. People don't want to master a skill, like blipping or heal and toeing. They want that dopamine hit now. That's my thoughts on it anyway, which is sad as a great manual gearbox is a thing of wonder and very rewarding
My cousins daughter works for Pro Drive and was part of the engineering team putting the manual box in the Aston. She is understandably very proud of the car.
Max 100% at fault, as usual. Enthusiasts like manual but not all buyers are Enthusiasts. Autos are so good these days that a majority of people are attracted to them.
It's manual all the way for me and has been fir the past 45 years. Have just come back from a week in Portugal, needed a small hire car, enter the fiat500 hybrid and guess what, a manual ! Happy days
The best takeaway from the Austrian GP was actually how 1) How Lando dealt with his DNF 2) How Lando remained calm and level headed toward Max I was really impressed with him and I hope he gets some more wins this year - Silverstone would be epic!!!
Learning to drive in a manual is still 100% worthwhile. Firstly, it teaches you mechanical sympathy and why you can't go round slow right angle corners in 4th, for example. It also teaches you how to recognise when your auto is picking the wrong gear for an upcoming situation, and when you might want to manually override it. Additionally, you never know when you might be presented with a manual car with no alternative, such as if you hire a car in some foreign country.
find it hard to believe they are not building the new mini with a manual gearbox because of poor sales, think its more to do with saving on development costs !
On roads like these over the Pyrenees, size doesn't matter. You had the biggest smile on your face for 8 days. Pleasure sharing the tarmac with you. 🙏 HMS Aston 😎
Hi All, glad to have Pete & the Mid Week 180 back!! Thanks for the Anniversary shout out too! Looks like you had fun though Pete 😉look forward to the next garage update! Max was definitely in the wrong in Austria, simply too aggressive in his defending so it was only ever gonna end up as an accident, someone could have been injured, it's a shame he managed to carry on & still get points when poor Lando, who'd driven brilliantly, got nothing ... How is that fair? I have no choice but to drive an Auto after a motorbike accident left me as an amputee but I would love a manual if I could, however the choice of autos in recent years has improved so much that the manual is slowly becoming extinct 😟
My 4 cars are all manual, no interest in auto/paddles/etc. Plan to keep all 4 given that the future is boring. 2 manual motorbikes too. I never get tired of engaging with my vehicle, even when I drive often 4000 in a week in the Aussie Alps.
Hey Ped - my weekend cars (MX5 & 370Z Nismo) are both manual, but my run around is an auto as it's just easier in traffic. If I was only able to have one car, it would definitely be a manual!
Manuals are for enthusiasts. Most people are just drivers not enthusiasts hence the low sales. As for a long road trip - enthusiastic driving is not supposed to be easy - it’s a lot more rewarding to get back knackered at the end of the day - makes the post drive beer so much nicer :) We all know autos are ultimately faster but if I wanted fast and easy I’d take the EV rather than the V8 manual
From one Masters Distinction to another happy Wednesday. I am currently teaching my 17 yr old to drive (in a manual car). Autos within his price range were just not ideal. I must say teaching my son in a manual as an IAM Observer, has been interesting, and i've enjoyed driving a manual again. There is still too many manual cars out there for young ones to dismiss them yet.
Pete, it’s really interesting about the manual option on cars. I’ve been toying with the idea of changing my 718 Spyder manual to a PDK which is slightly quicker and has some advantages over the manual. However that manual gearbox is really good and in an age where manual is dying, is the manual actually the right choice for that car? Day to day car, definitely auto, but in a weekend/sports car, the extra engagements of a manual makes a strong case to keeping it! I guess it’s where someone will use the car, how much they like the fun of having to engage more with the car, ease of driving?
The majority of my driving these days is in busy city traffic so I went auto a few years ago and absolutely love it. Can’t see myself going back to a manual.
if your driving is mostly city traffic, you don't need a car...sorry to point that out. Go with public transportation or a bike/scooter/motorcyle and have a proper car for weekends and trips; like I have said above, ppl who just pretend they are real drivers, will always find excuses for that ease of use, easy driving because, yeah, why learn how to coordinate your hands, feet, eyes and thought when you can put the car in D and don't bother with the driving at all.
@@eugenux I’m a shift worker so I regularly travel at times when public transport doesn’t operate (I’m not in London). And with my terrible balance, if I rode a bike or a scooter I’d be in hospital within a week 😂 However, I do use public transport when I can.
Hello Peter. welcome back MW180! I had 36 years with manual and a late mix of automatic but DVT in my leg in 2002 stopped that for a while but only because town driving became very difficult with a clutch. I recovered and we had manual in Hilary’s car until last year but automatic has been my norm since 2002 really and I prefer it in most situations. I just don’t like Max Verstappen…he must be outstanding as a driver but I cannot deal with his manner and attitude.. I hope Lando gets to take HIM for a ride next time!! I have a glimmer of hope to see you on Friday Goodwood but I’m sure you will be dashing about as usual! That Alfa in red looks very attractive…I suspect you liked it!! Enough…stay home now or take Tracey with you on your next adventures😃😃🤞🏼🤞🏼 Richard😃😃😃😃😃
I thought Max was in the wrong until I saw an interview with Jenson Button who cited a previous race with similar situation but entirely different outcome. That said Max is a liability behind the wheel and it it’s only a matter of time before he’s involved in a more serious incident.
For me , i was lucky to be in a position for a weekend toy , my criteria was an n/a engine coupled to a manual box, only 1 real option in my price range, a Porsche 718 GTS 4.0 and i love it. My daily is a transit custom with an auto box, would not swap the boxes on either ☺️
It must be a Red Bull thing . Jamie Whincup used to do the same thing in Supercars when anyone would race against him cleanly, but he felt like he was about to lose his position or be challenged for the lead 👎
I'm amazed that even Britain and Europe in general face the question of bothering with manual cars. All my cars were manuals with the exception of a Prius. Only the Americans I knew in Europe had automatics in their vehicles. Since I like EVs, I would have to bid a manual car adieu were I to buy a new car today. Unless...I had the dosh to buy one of Richard Morgan's converted classic EVs. I would be satisfied with an old VW Beetle EV...with a manual...in that case.
Hi Ped Having watched last weekend F1, in my humble opinion Max Guilty. Now the competition is closing in he is going back to his old bad ways. Manual v Auto, has to be auto for me. As most of my driving is now road use, including towing, would not consider going back to manual. Even if I could have a spare track day toy, I think I might still go auto. What’s is not to like about a PDK box?
I had DB9 manual back in 2010. It was a 2007MY and had been maintained by AM Works in Newport Pagnell from new. It had horrible clutch judder and a very weird bite point. Couldn’t sell it for love nor money in 2013 whereas now it’s apparently a unicorn’s back tooth 🤷🏻♂️. Replaced it with a Porsche with PDK and what a difference… now have McLaren 570 with lightning quick synchro. They are simply better and quicker 😜 Having said that, I just love the manual in my GR Yaris … 🙃
❤ least amount of fun, let me think. You’re driving on roads that are designed for cars to perform at their highest levels, oh and at the same time you’ve got a Porsche. It doesn’t really matter what the roads are like. It doesn’t really matter whether your car is the weakest in the bunch, you’re driving a Porsche. This is never going to be bad in any circumstance. Great video Pete as always God bless and take care my love and as always stay safe and have fun. And remember one thing if you’re not having fun, you’re doing it wrong 💋 ❤
Max has reverted to type as the pressure mounts, the 10 second penalty is a joke when the next car is 17 seconds behind. Andrea Stella is a fantastic guy. Lance should go, he always has a face like a wet weekend, he's not enjoying it, he'd rather be playing tennis. Lost any respect for the team and him when he resigned My car is an auto, because you can't buy it in manual form. I've loved driving since the day after my 17th birthday when I had my first lesson. Move forward 52 years and 9 days and I won't go back, there's always traffic these days, or someone in a Toyota doing 25, no matter what the limit is and to be honest I'm not enjoying a drive as much as I used to, so driving an auto suits me now, its less stressful and more relaxing. Looking forward to the Milano, whoops, Junior review
Max was the reason the no moving in the braking zone was brought in, He used to do it with LeClerc then Lewis now Lando, and as Andrea Stella said he won a championship doing that. As much as I do like a manual, I do like being able to waft in Auto or use the flappy paddles in the Jag
Don't know how you fit in CZcams with all the other stuff you do.. I struggle with CZcams alone, forget all the trips and manufacturer launches. Manual all the way for me but i'm sure it's just force of habit. Had i grown up with paddles that's surely what i'd want. Shame though...
Shame I'm very far away from being 17 and never drove a car with 'flappies' but enjoy the manual mini's a lot. About the power of lady P my brother in law has the same 4 cylinder Boxter and has at least as much fun on drive tours as his friends in there powerful 911's
My wife and I have two cars with manual transmission. Likely, these will be the last two. Reason?? As we get older, it is harder to work the clutch, comfortably. Also, modern automatics are very good. No longer is driving an automatic a deterrent to fun. The clutch is a maintenance and service issue. It is a friction device which does wear out, over time, and has become bloody expensive to replace. An automatic is covered by the new car warranty. These are the kinds of things that reduce the demand for manuals to near zero, even in cars that you expect to have a manual transmission.
Can’t wait for another garage build vid Ped. And once again……you lucky, lucky bastard! And good to hear you are in with Skoda At Silverstone. You still need an RS wagon in your life.
On manuals vs auto issue, it won't be many years before driving instructors can't easily buy new manual cars to teach with. At that point the 17 year olds won't even have the option to learn manual - meaning there are many cars that will become worthless to them. So if you don't have a manual licence there's an argument to learn sooner rather than later, in case you discover in 10 years' time that you really want to drive a manual car but can't easily learn any more.
Unfortunately ped so many drivers on the road today are just plain and simple LAZY oh I can't be arsed to change gear in a manual gearbox car that's too much like hard work and as you pointed out so many of the new drivers on the road aren't going to experience the joy and interaction of a manual gearbox oh and before you ask I've always driven a manual gearbox car and I will keep on doing so.
Evening all.Max was definitely at fault in Austria,you could see him moving under braking, so the stewards got it right.Pity for Lando, though, but a great result for George.On the driving test question,yes auto cars are the big thing now,but I would always encourage anyone to pass their test in a manual.If you can only drive auto you are cutting yourself off from a lot of potential fun in older cars and also from work if you want to do a driving job.Looking forward to Fridays vid,should be good.
I understand your point but I don't agree with it for the following reason: if you drive a 250hp car at 6-7 tenths, yes, a manual is more involving then an 500hp automatic at the same speed and yes, as the rithm gets higher, of course it will take more skill and concentration to drive a 500 hp car at 8-9 or 10 tenths, than you will need in a 250hp car, as the actual speed and progression on the road is higher at a higher pace. BUT, and there is a big but here, if both cars are manual, the less skilled guy(or gal) in the 500hp car will always be the slowest on the road, while the skilled guy in the 250hp car will be best or only second best, giving in only to the skilled guy in a 500hp car(because it has also power, no only skills); what I am trying to say(without succeeding at it very much) is that manuals are the greatest equalisers on the road, while also being the safest option out there!, way to many ppl with limited knowledge and or skills are driving, fast most of the time, cars that have way more power than they can actually handle. Such a person in an 800hp manual ferrari wouldn't go much faster than a similar person in a gr86; a great and skilled driver in the same '86 would run rings around the slow guys, regardless of how much power their sports car would have; having automatics in their sports and super cars, allows ppl with mediocre driving skill sets to drive faster and for a longer time, putting themselves in danger and also other road participants as well; so, yeah, indeed, letting an automatic shift itself(or flapping a paddle-more usually than not, even the sports cars are left in D)-, means more rapid pace in a 500+ hp...but, honestly, I don't think ppl who can't actually drive, should be allowed to be at the wheel of such fast vehicles; if we would have only manual in sports and super cars, the number of mediocre drivers behind their wheels would be much much lower...and that is(and would be) a very good thing.
Completely Max’s fault. I. Would want a manual about 5% of my driving time so with one car it has to be automatic. I did however ensure that my son (passed last year) learned to drive a manual and that his first car was as it’s a life skill at least for one more generation. As for young kids affording anything electric, have you seen what insurance groups they are 😮!!!
Been driving for 24 years and owned several cars during that time. All manual. Current cars F-type V6 and Santa Fe SUV. Had the SUV from new and it's a brilliant car but what stops me from upgrading this now 7 year old car is I can't find another manual premium SUV!
I think that actually the cars that make good investments are the autos as in 20 years there’ll be fewer people that have a manual license. Eg E46 M3 with SMG.
First up Ped great Mid Week 180 👍 got to love a good Manual thats one of the reasons I bought my I20 N because of that reason very few sporty New Car Manual there a dying breed love it 😉 But my 37 year old Sister finally passed her test and she went away from learning in manaul as struggled on times I said to my parents that it doesnt matter as all new cars will be auto but when looking for a car could we fined somthing decent the price of small Hatches was remarkable finally found a car in the end a Kia Picanto sport trim lovley little car must say my sister really likes it 👍
evening everybody. Hope you doing well there.As one the Max/Lando crash. I think this was to going to happend,but yes as a dutch, was Max his fault. Was a good day because Aston won the 24h off spa. And i must say, Valour is the car bond should drive.
Well I think that a lot of the people that love manual cars buy classics. If they are like me, they want something analog. Not like the modern cars with 5-10 different drivers settings and all the electronics. I hate touchscreens in cars and buttons on the steering wheel. Currently I am looking for a Alfa Romeo GTV6. I´ve always wanted one, but I also want the right one. Nice video though.
Re F1, it was great to actually see some close racing with all the teams getting closer to Red Bull and ultimately we want to see Lando etc fighting closely with Max so all was great! … Yes Max was at fault but wasn’t it good to have an exciting battle to watch?? Modern auto boxes are so good now that, in reality, very few people are now going to want manual boxes. They might say they do but when it comes to putting your money down that changes!
I think Max was in the wrong, but I feel he’s been allowed to push the boundary of the rules over time also. The penalty was justified along with the licence points. The thing is that any driver coming up against home should expect to be challenged but not driven off the circuit. Love that Lando is up there and looking forward to the British GP this weekend
Great MW180 👍 After 5 years of PDK, I still battle with would I change for a manual. I still miss the interaction but PDK is so good, I think I may regret it after a while. 100% Max’s fault. Can’t wait for FOS. That and revival are my favourite events (wit the exception of LeMans!)I managed to get into the Porsche parking this time too 👍
Sat in Arrecife airport, Lanzarote, waiting to fly home, after a week of following my wife around the island in a hire car as she gets in some triathlon bike training!!!
Evening Ped, 100% Max at fault showing his true colours and that he hasn’t matured as a driver!! As the owner of both an auto and a manual I get the merits of both. My work commute is usually boring motorway and heavy traffic so the auto suits me fine for that. The manual is for a blast on a b road but with the state of the roads it’s not that enjoyable anymore sadly😢
In 45 years of driving I have never owned an automatic gearbox car, don’t think I want to start now. If you had the least amount of fun then I think I need to unsubscribe!!! I am at our place in the 3 Vallées as I have quit working on the private yacht and am having some well earned time off. Look forward to hearing what you are up to as if I come back to the UK we might be able to meet up for a drink.
Max at fault without question. Plus, when is a penalty going to be a penalty. A 10 second penalty when you are 15 seconds ahead is not a penalty. And finally, manual gearbox all the way. I cannot believe that Mini say there is no demand for manual. That sound like an excuse rather than a reason. So its petrol manual for me.
Never bought an automatic in my life, driven a lot mostly BMW and Mercedes they never get the changes quite right, driven a few CVTs they always seem to be hunting for the right gear. I might have to have one eventually but I would rather not.
Just watched a review of the 2024 GR Yaris, which was a manual, refreshingly enough! I'll always stick (slight pun intended) to manuals. Have driven (flappy paddle) auto's but gear changing without engaging a clutch feels so utterly pointless to me. It's just like a computer game, so boring.
Perfect summary of Max's misdemeanours Pete. As you say nobody has been close enough in the past couple of years for him to revert to type. F1 needs to sort it soon before someone gets hurt. FAB road trip vid and the Pau circuit looks incredible so will try and get there when we're in the Pyrenees for 3 weeks in September. Calle de Tosse is already on our list. Looking forward to watching your GT Tours "underdog" video as I'll be in my Boxster T PDK and my mate will be in his Lotus Emira manual. I'm aiming not to have the least amount of fun! 😂
Personally I like a manual gearbox but….with so much traffic on the roads, nose to tail hold ups and ever increasing traffic lights an automatic makes driving much easier. Will be sticking with my Hybrid
Had auto boxes on the Honda and Chevy sedan because they are not sporty or off-roady. Manuals are there because you have to choose what gear to use not made by a magic brain. On bikes we have a name for them. Mopeds.
Good Morning, and please excuse my off-topic post. May I suggest a video with your take on driving a car fitted with Intelligent Speed Assist (which I understand the UK will also be implementing from 7 July)? Within 500 yards of my house the speed limit starts at 20 mph, then goes to 30 mph, then back to 20 mph, then up to 60 mph. The prospect of this idiocy reducing power with constant warning bongs if I have the temerity to exceed any of these limits four times in a few minutes is ludicrous. I shall now stick to second hand cars.
Looking at the manual vs auto question objectively the people who want a manual have to like driving. Talking to my friends and relatives they see cars as a tool to go from A to B, needs to look good , comfortable, safe and be at a sensible price point so don’t really care about the manual gearbox , want to go from a to b as easily as possible. I had a quick google and 40% of people like driving) so in theory if you said 50% of those people want a manual that’s 20% of sales MIGHT buy a manual . So Mini are right as 80% of people will get an auto. I feel as an everyday car I would have an auto as most of the time I fall into the A to B category like going to the supermarket or driving to the station and occasionally I want a proper drive (don’t get much time for this so maybe 2-3 times a month) bit of a long answer and the numbers are very very approximate.
Max gets threatened when challenged and reacts accordingly, just as he did when Sir Lewis got fed up of his antics. Red Bull blindness is quite common evidently! Problem with the demise of manual is the push for EV which are mainly auto / semi auto. Manual is far better, more involving,more economical ( using a lighter foot) ,around better!! Have a great Grand Prix
Sir Lewis has a few things to answer for in that regard too mate. Remember Silverstone? Lewis is a bit of a petulant self-absorbed hypocrite after watching his whole career, but I like Lando. Way less of a twat.
Re the manuel decline - do you think it's due to all the autonomous tech that's needed, would work better with an auto. I liked the drone vid but wish the drone audio was muted and we could just hear your cars engine :)
Why aren't we buying manuals? 1. If I'm being honest, for daily purposes the auto 'box is so much more convenient. And with automatic gearbox being more and more reliable these days, can't see any reason why would I buy manuals for day-to-day basis. 2. Meanwhile, manuals for enthusiast cars are now restricted to cars like MX-5 and GR86 (which many so-called 'enthusiasts' complained are not powerful enough), hot hatches like GR Yaris (which some so-called 'enthusiasts' complained are not analogue enough), or expensive things like 992 ST, Sport Classic, Aston Valour and the likes. So when we got cheap manual sportscars we complained because it was not powerful enough, and when they put it on expensive car we complained manufacturers only cares about money (which is true). 3. Prices of cars (and everything in general) has been going off-the-scale these days. When even public transports are being priced beyond belief to a point where putting a plate of meal everyday became a hassle, buying cars (let alone manual cars) isn't perhaps something that comes to the mind of public when they have to spend money. Contrary with so-called 'enthusiasts', I appreciate all kinds of cars (except Teslas because of Elongated Muskrat). I love great manual gearbox as much as I do with excellent torque-converter automatics or DCTs.
Totally agree, Max needs to have some proper punishment dished out, he’s getting away with it because of who he is. Anthony Davidson on sky summed it up with his review and there is no way he left a cars gap. It’s spoiling the sport for me because of the inconsistency of the punishment ie lando didn’t score a point because of Max! If this was the other way round red bull would be calling for blood. Great news for Mercedes though and good to see that the red bull dominance is finally coming to an end.
In this case I agree Max was in the wrong. However, Sky is famous for it’s impartial coverage involving British drivers right.? 😂 Martin Brundle is a joke, and has his tongue so far down the back of Lu-Lu , Lando and George’s racing suit it’s a wonder he can still commentate as badly as he does. Put that crabby old bell-end out to pasture 😆 Biased AF.
The first Auto box I drove was a Borg Warner 3-speed in a Jaguar Mk2. Utter rubbish, The next was a variomatic in a DAF 44. 850cc engine but it left similar cars standing and was so very easy to drive. A short high speed drive across Salisbury Plain in a Morris Marina Auto was horrible. I brought and drove manual cars for years, both Diesel and Petrol , at work I drove some rather speedy cars and bikes at their maximum performance levels. Then I went EV, and will never go back . Complete control of power to the wheels at all times , cracking acceleration, great braking control and NO horrible noises or smells.
@@dimsoneill A couple of years ago a neighbour had a new Aston Martin , presumably with a 'sports' exhaust. When he started it in the morning we could hear it indoors, even with the double glazed windows closed. Why should I have to hear it? Other Aston Martin cars seem not to make that noise, does that mean the driver has a reduced 'emotion' from their car? When I drive my EV I can speak at a normal voice with my passengers, no need to raise it. I can listen to music at a low volume . The reason that car noises are associated with power is simply historical, Early car exhausts were inefficient , and caused a drop off in performance. Nowadays it is possible to make a quiet car exhaust. It is also possible to make the car interior quiet. Don't be taken in by last century marketing, drive something that is up to date.
@@solentbum Glorious sounds by the sounds. I would have opened the windows and given your neighbour a thumbs up.😆 The fast EVs I have driven Model 3 performance, Ioniq 5 were boring appliances. They are a bad technology band aid, and will become unsellable white elephants. Give me a good ICE any day.
Max at fault as per usually you can't win every corner or race. Lando needs to be very hard and dive bomb the inside corner and let him understand there will be a shunt if he tries it on. When Lando passed him on the first attempt he out braked himself and correctly gave the place back, on the second attempt he passed him fair and square, did max give the place back after passing off track no he did not.
For sure Max was in the wrong and his punishment was not enough it should have been a 10 second stop and go penalty. With regards Manual cars I do like a manual but only for fun driving. Last week I was travelling down the M25 from Glasgow in Rush Hour and it was hellish and thankfully I was in a brand new Range Rover with an automatic box but next week I will going back to London near Heathrow, in a Manual and I will be making sure I will arrive outside those times. A week of dog sitting for my sister while she is in Italy hopefully it will be warmer & sunnier than here in Scotland and I can top up my tan. Quick question how many 17 year old's who pass their test will be buying electric cars in my experience most buy 10 year old Corsa's or Fiesta's with a manual box ?.
Hey Pete I see you got a pair of new glasses it look good on you 🤓 maybe you should check out a brand call ic Berlin they made a some good glasses there 😅 you'll look good in them !
because, secretly, most of so called drivers are imposters, pretenders. Most just want to pretend that they are some sporty drivers with a passion for cars and for the driving itself but, in reality, they simply want comfort and ease of use...which is mind boggling considering you buy a sports car for the experience, not for ease of usage; having an automatic, regardless of the type is so much detrimental to the spirit of driving and actual enjoyment behind the wheel but, ppl who have the necessary money for these cars, brand new, simply decide the compromise is ok; considering the actual age of said first buyers, I can almost understand them; and that is happening because they are more interested in the image the said sports car and sports cars brand projects on them, then the actual experience of driving. And now, after I stated my opinion, let's see what's your opinion! 😁😁, "Siri, play the video!" edit. Cavendish won today his 35th sprint in The Tour!, incredible, just incredible!(at 39 years)
Manual Ferrari’s and Lamborghini’s are now rare, so their values are higher than Auto’s. Year’s ago Auto’s were slow, but now they are in some cases faster than Manual’s. The trouble is that in today’s traffic an auto is so much easier. Also with today’s younger generation buying cars with no enthusiasm for driving, as they consider a car as just another consumable item like a fridge with no pride of ownership, paid for on an expensive PCP. It therefore makes no sense for an SUV brick to be manual gears. Every time I see a learner car in my road, it is automatic.
It can be summed up really as
1) The typical buyers, Supercars and the like are not generally bought by enthusiasts. Typical buyers are using it as another way to express their wealth and status.
2) Emissions, its a lot easier for manufacturers to make their cars compliment with emissions regulations than with a manual.
3) The link to F1, in most consumer minds a flappy paddle gearbox is basically what LH uses.
4) Standardisation, its more cost effective for car manufacturers to build and design a car with one gearbox inmind. Designing a car for both is a compromise and increases cost
5) Instant gratification culture. People don't want to master a skill, like blipping or heal and toeing. They want that dopamine hit now.
That's my thoughts on it anyway, which is sad as a great manual gearbox is a thing of wonder and very rewarding
200% this ⬆️, unfortunately..
My cousins daughter works for Pro Drive and was part of the engineering team putting the manual box in the Aston.
She is understandably very proud of the car.
Smart lass.
Nice 👌
Max 100% at fault, as usual.
Enthusiasts like manual but not all buyers are Enthusiasts. Autos are so good these days that a majority of people are attracted to them.
I collected my 2024 manual Golf Gti in March, absolutely love it 👍
@@ianstretton3814 unfortunately dropped in the 8.5 update.
Nice 👍
It's manual all the way for me and has been fir the past 45 years. Have just come back from a week in Portugal, needed a small hire car, enter the fiat500 hybrid and guess what, a manual ! Happy days
The best takeaway from the Austrian GP was actually how 1) How Lando dealt with his DNF
2) How Lando remained calm and level headed toward Max
I was really impressed with him and I hope he gets some more wins this year - Silverstone would be epic!!!
If Lando had done the same to Max Christian Horner would be screaming from the roof tops. Says it all!
Oh yes 🙄
Learning to drive in a manual is still 100% worthwhile. Firstly, it teaches you mechanical sympathy and why you can't go round slow right angle corners in 4th, for example. It also teaches you how to recognise when your auto is picking the wrong gear for an upcoming situation, and when you might want to manually override it. Additionally, you never know when you might be presented with a manual car with no alternative, such as if you hire a car in some foreign country.
find it hard to believe they are not building the new mini with a manual gearbox because of poor sales, think its more to do with saving on development costs !
I can only go on what they told me 🤷♂️
@@PetrolPed And the corporate BS is very real Ped. They are not going to cone out and admit it are they?
I don't get fatigued at all by having a manual on tour - I just love the interaction and will always want a manual.
On roads like these over the Pyrenees, size doesn't matter.
You had the biggest smile on your face for 8 days.
Pleasure sharing the tarmac with you. 🙏
HMS Aston 😎
Ah Hi Chris. Great to see you on here and a pleasure sharing the road with you ❤️
Hi All, glad to have Pete & the Mid Week 180 back!! Thanks for the Anniversary shout out too! Looks like you had fun though Pete 😉look forward to the next garage update! Max was definitely in the wrong in Austria, simply too aggressive in his defending so it was only ever gonna end up as an accident, someone could have been injured, it's a shame he managed to carry on & still get points when poor Lando, who'd driven brilliantly, got nothing ... How is that fair?
I have no choice but to drive an Auto after a motorbike accident left me as an amputee but I would love a manual if I could, however the choice of autos in recent years has improved so much that the manual is slowly becoming extinct 😟
Second! Evening all! Hope everyone is doing well and having a great week so far. Thanks for the shout out. 👍🏻
No problem 👍
My 4 cars are all manual, no interest in auto/paddles/etc. Plan to keep all 4 given that the future is boring. 2 manual motorbikes too. I never get tired of engaging with my vehicle, even when I drive often 4000 in a week in the Aussie Alps.
Hey Ped - my weekend cars (MX5 & 370Z Nismo) are both manual, but my run around is an auto as it's just easier in traffic. If I was only able to have one car, it would definitely be a manual!
Very nice!
I have been driving manual cars for 51 years and started with my Golf GTI (DSG) in April - no apologies but I love it!
Manuals are for enthusiasts. Most people are just drivers not enthusiasts hence the low sales. As for a long road trip - enthusiastic driving is not supposed to be easy - it’s a lot more rewarding to get back knackered at the end of the day - makes the post drive beer so much nicer :)
We all know autos are ultimately faster but if I wanted fast and easy I’d take the EV rather than the V8 manual
That’s a good point 🍺👍
From one Masters Distinction to another happy Wednesday. I am currently teaching my 17 yr old to drive (in a manual car). Autos within his price range were just not ideal. I must say teaching my son in a manual as an IAM Observer, has been interesting, and i've enjoyed driving a manual again. There is still too many manual cars out there for young ones to dismiss them yet.
Sixth 👍
Pete, it’s really interesting about the manual option on cars. I’ve been toying with the idea of changing my 718 Spyder manual to a PDK which is slightly quicker and has some advantages over the manual. However that manual gearbox is really good and in an age where manual is dying, is the manual actually the right choice for that car? Day to day car, definitely auto, but in a weekend/sports car, the extra engagements of a manual makes a strong case to keeping it! I guess it’s where someone will use the car, how much they like the fun of having to engage more with the car, ease of driving?
Tough choice 😬
Hi Sir Pete! I’m completing a 11 hour day at work and listening well working
I’m thinking Newey to go to Aston because of the new wind tunnel, but then I look at the driver line up and think differently
The majority of my driving these days is in busy city traffic so I went auto a few years ago and absolutely love it. Can’t see myself going back to a manual.
if your driving is mostly city traffic, you don't need a car...sorry to point that out.
Go with public transportation or a bike/scooter/motorcyle and have a proper car for weekends and trips; like I have said above, ppl who just pretend they are real drivers, will always find excuses for that ease of use, easy driving because, yeah, why learn how to coordinate your hands, feet, eyes and thought when you can put the car in D and don't bother with the driving at all.
@@eugenux I’m a shift worker so I regularly travel at times when public transport doesn’t operate (I’m not in London). And with my terrible balance, if I rode a bike or a scooter I’d be in hospital within a week 😂 However, I do use public transport when I can.
Evening all hope everyone is well.
Three pedals & a gearstick …crap in city traffic / bloody brilliant on open roads
Hello Peter. welcome back MW180! I had 36 years with manual and a late mix of automatic but DVT in my leg in 2002 stopped that for a while but only because town driving became very difficult with a clutch. I recovered and we had manual in Hilary’s car until last year but automatic has been my norm since 2002 really and I prefer it in most situations. I just don’t like Max Verstappen…he must be outstanding as a driver but I cannot deal with his manner and attitude..
I hope Lando gets to take HIM for a ride next time!! I have a glimmer of hope to see you on Friday Goodwood but I’m sure you will be dashing about as usual! That Alfa in red looks very attractive…I suspect you liked it!! Enough…stay home now or take Tracey with you on your next adventures😃😃🤞🏼🤞🏼 Richard😃😃😃😃😃
Evening Pedlerz! Bit late.... Sorry watching Sir Mark Cavendish becoming GOAT!
Amazing 🔥
I thought Max was in the wrong until I saw an interview with Jenson Button who cited a previous race with similar situation but entirely different outcome.
That said Max is a liability behind the wheel and it it’s only a matter of time before he’s involved in a more serious incident.
Indeed 😢
For me , i was lucky to be in a position for a weekend toy , my criteria was an n/a engine coupled to a manual box, only 1 real option in my price range, a Porsche 718 GTS 4.0 and i love it. My daily is a transit custom with an auto box, would not swap the boxes on either ☺️
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It must be a Red Bull thing . Jamie Whincup used to do the same thing in Supercars when anyone would race against him cleanly, but he felt like he was about to lose his position or be challenged for the lead 👎
I'm amazed that even Britain and Europe in general face the question of bothering with manual cars. All my cars were manuals with the exception of a Prius. Only the Americans I knew in Europe had automatics in their vehicles.
Since I like EVs, I would have to bid a manual car adieu were I to buy a new car today. Unless...I had the dosh to buy one of Richard Morgan's converted classic EVs. I would be satisfied with an old VW Beetle EV...with a manual...in that case.
I do. Only ever owned manual cars.
Hi Ped
Having watched last weekend F1, in my humble opinion Max Guilty. Now the competition is closing in he is going back to his old bad ways. Manual v Auto, has to be auto for me. As most of my driving is now road use, including towing, would not consider going back to manual. Even if I could have a spare track day toy, I think I might still go auto. What’s is not to like about a PDK box?
I had DB9 manual back in 2010. It was a 2007MY and had been maintained by AM Works in Newport Pagnell from new. It had horrible clutch judder and a very weird bite point. Couldn’t sell it for love nor money in 2013 whereas now it’s apparently a unicorn’s back tooth 🤷🏻♂️. Replaced it with a Porsche with PDK and what a difference… now have McLaren 570 with lightning quick synchro. They are simply better and quicker 😜 Having said that, I just love the manual in my GR Yaris … 🙃
❤ least amount of fun, let me think. You’re driving on roads that are designed for cars to perform at their highest levels, oh and at the same time you’ve got a Porsche. It doesn’t really matter what the roads are like. It doesn’t really matter whether your car is the weakest in the bunch, you’re driving a Porsche. This is never going to be bad in any circumstance. Great video Pete as always God bless and take care my love and as always stay safe and have fun. And remember one thing if you’re not having fun, you’re doing it wrong 💋 ❤
C’mon, it’s Tuesday. Where’s the Junior drive video? 🤷♂️🙏Really looking forward to it. 👍👍🤞
It’s live 👍 Embargo lifted at midday 😜
Max has reverted to type as the pressure mounts, the 10 second penalty is a joke when the next car is 17 seconds behind.
Andrea Stella is a fantastic guy.
Lance should go, he always has a face like a wet weekend, he's not enjoying it, he'd rather be playing tennis. Lost any respect for the team and him when he resigned
My car is an auto, because you can't buy it in manual form. I've loved driving since the day after my 17th birthday when I had my first lesson.
Move forward 52 years and 9 days and I won't go back, there's always traffic these days, or someone in a Toyota doing 25, no matter what the limit is and to be honest I'm not enjoying a drive as much as I used to, so driving an auto suits me now, its less stressful and more relaxing.
Looking forward to the Milano, whoops, Junior review
Max was the reason the no moving in the braking zone was brought in, He used to do it with LeClerc then Lewis now Lando, and as Andrea Stella said he won a championship doing that.
As much as I do like a manual, I do like being able to waft in Auto or use the flappy paddles in the Jag
Exactly
Don't know how you fit in CZcams with all the other stuff you do.. I struggle with CZcams alone, forget all the trips and manufacturer launches. Manual all the way for me but i'm sure it's just force of habit. Had i grown up with paddles that's surely what i'd want. Shame though...
Yeah. It’s hard work but great fun 👍
Shame I'm very far away from being 17 and never drove a car with 'flappies' but enjoy the manual mini's a lot. About the power of lady P my brother in law has the same 4 cylinder Boxter and has at least as much fun on drive tours as his friends in there powerful 911's
Indeed 👍
My wife and I have two cars with manual transmission. Likely, these will be the last two. Reason?? As we get older, it is harder to work the clutch, comfortably. Also, modern automatics are very good. No longer is driving an automatic a deterrent to fun. The clutch is a maintenance and service issue. It is a friction device which does wear out, over time, and has become bloody expensive to replace. An automatic is covered by the new car warranty. These are the kinds of things that reduce the demand for manuals to near zero, even in cars that you expect to have a manual transmission.
I'm biased but drive my Boxster 718S with PDK - it's the best of both worlds in my opinion 👍😁
Can’t wait for another garage build vid Ped. And once again……you lucky, lucky bastard!
And good to hear you are in with Skoda At Silverstone. You still need an RS wagon in your life.
Thanks 👍
On manuals vs auto issue, it won't be many years before driving instructors can't easily buy new manual cars to teach with.
At that point the 17 year olds won't even have the option to learn manual - meaning there are many cars that will become worthless to them.
So if you don't have a manual licence there's an argument to learn sooner rather than later, in case you discover in 10 years' time that you really want to drive a manual car but can't easily learn any more.
New shoes! Milano Red!!
Unfortunately ped so many drivers on the road today are just plain and simple LAZY oh I can't be arsed to change gear in a manual gearbox car that's too much like hard work and as you pointed out so many of the new drivers on the road aren't going to experience the joy and interaction of a manual gearbox oh and before you ask I've always driven a manual gearbox car and I will keep on doing so.
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I only like manual in a car with heaps of torque so I don't have to change gears so often
Hi. The motor circuit last week looked epic.
It was!
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Evening all.Max was definitely at fault in Austria,you could see him moving under braking, so the stewards got it right.Pity for Lando, though, but a great result for George.On the driving test question,yes auto cars are the big thing now,but I would always encourage anyone to pass their test in a manual.If you can only drive auto you are cutting yourself off from a lot of potential fun in older cars and also from work if you want to do a driving job.Looking forward to Fridays vid,should be good.
Manuals are awesome up to 250 BHP, beyond that automatics make sense.
Yeah, really good point 👍… lower power encourages more active involvement/ big BHP needs your full attention on the road or track
I understand your point but I don't agree with it for the following reason:
if you drive a 250hp car at 6-7 tenths, yes, a manual is more involving then an 500hp automatic at the same speed and yes, as the rithm gets higher, of course it will take more skill and concentration to drive a 500 hp car at 8-9 or 10 tenths, than you will need in a 250hp car, as the actual speed and progression on the road is higher at a higher pace.
BUT, and there is a big but here, if both cars are manual, the less skilled guy(or gal) in the 500hp car will always be the slowest on the road, while the skilled guy in the 250hp car will be best or only second best, giving in only to the skilled guy in a 500hp car(because it has also power, no only skills);
what I am trying to say(without succeeding at it very much) is that manuals are the greatest equalisers on the road, while also being the safest option out there!, way to many ppl with limited knowledge and or skills are driving, fast most of the time, cars that have way more power than they can actually handle. Such a person in an 800hp manual ferrari wouldn't go much faster than a similar person in a gr86; a great and skilled driver in the same '86 would run rings around the slow guys, regardless of how much power their sports car would have; having automatics in their sports and super cars, allows ppl with mediocre driving skill sets to drive faster and for a longer time, putting themselves in danger and also other road participants as well;
so, yeah, indeed, letting an automatic shift itself(or flapping a paddle-more usually than not, even the sports cars are left in D)-, means more rapid pace in a 500+ hp...but, honestly, I don't think ppl who can't actually drive, should be allowed to be at the wheel of such fast vehicles; if we would have only manual in sports and super cars, the number of mediocre drivers behind their wheels would be much much lower...and that is(and would be) a very good thing.
Completely Max’s fault. I. Would want a manual about 5% of my driving time so with one car it has to be automatic. I did however ensure that my son (passed last year) learned to drive a manual and that his first car was as it’s a life skill at least for one more generation. As for young kids affording anything electric, have you seen what insurance groups they are 😮!!!
Been driving for 24 years and owned several cars during that time. All manual. Current cars F-type V6 and Santa Fe SUV. Had the SUV from new and it's a brilliant car but what stops me from upgrading this now 7 year old car is I can't find another manual premium SUV!
I think that actually the cars that make good investments are the autos as in 20 years there’ll be fewer people that have a manual license. Eg E46 M3 with SMG.
First up Ped great Mid Week 180 👍 got to love a good Manual thats one of the reasons I bought my I20 N because of that reason very few sporty New Car Manual there a dying breed love it 😉
But my 37 year old Sister finally passed her test and she went away from learning in manaul as struggled on times I said
to my parents that it doesnt matter as all new cars will be auto but when looking for a car could we fined somthing decent the price of small Hatches was remarkable finally found a car in the end a Kia Picanto sport trim lovley little car must say my sister really likes it 👍
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evening everybody. Hope you doing well there.As one the Max/Lando crash. I think this was to going to happend,but yes as a dutch, was Max his fault. Was a good day because Aston won the 24h off spa. And i must say, Valour is the car bond should drive.
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@@PetrolPed perfect on the poduim💪
Totally agree Peter, Max has not changed his spots at all. Shame!
Well I think that a lot of the people that love manual cars buy classics.
If they are like me, they want something analog.
Not like the modern cars with 5-10 different drivers settings and all the electronics.
I hate touchscreens in cars and buttons on the steering wheel.
Currently I am looking for a Alfa Romeo GTV6.
I´ve always wanted one, but I also want the right one.
Nice video though.
I am looking to replace my Audi A6 Evant but cannot get a manual beyond 2017
Re F1, it was great to actually see some close racing with all the teams getting closer to Red Bull and ultimately we want to see Lando etc fighting closely with Max so all was great! … Yes Max was at fault but wasn’t it good to have an exciting battle to watch?? Modern auto boxes are so good now that, in reality, very few people are now going to want manual boxes. They might say they do but when it comes to putting your money down that changes!
But CVT suck big donkey balls, which is a lot of autos these days, and getter more common.
I think Max was in the wrong, but I feel he’s been allowed to push the boundary of the rules over time also. The penalty was justified along with the licence points. The thing is that any driver coming up against home should expect to be challenged but not driven off the circuit. Love that Lando is up there and looking forward to the British GP this weekend
Great MW180 👍 After 5 years of PDK, I still battle with would I change for a manual. I still miss the interaction but PDK is so good, I think I may regret it after a while. 100% Max’s fault. Can’t wait for FOS. That and revival are my favourite events (wit the exception of LeMans!)I managed to get into the Porsche parking this time too 👍
Extreme H vehicle launch..?
8:03 I watched it
Sat in Arrecife airport, Lanzarote, waiting to fly home, after a week of following my wife around the island in a hire car as she gets in some triathlon bike training!!!
Oh wow. What’s she training for ?
2024 World Triathlon (GB Age Group) Standard Distance Aquabike Championship at Torremolinos in October…
Evening Ped, 100% Max at fault showing his true colours and that he hasn’t matured as a driver!! As the owner of both an auto and a manual I get the merits of both. My work commute is usually boring motorway and heavy traffic so the auto suits me fine for that. The manual is for a blast on a b road but with the state of the roads it’s not that enjoyable anymore sadly😢
In 45 years of driving I have never owned an automatic gearbox car, don’t think I want to start now. If you had the least amount of fun then I think I need to unsubscribe!!! I am at our place in the 3 Vallées as I have quit working on the private yacht and am having some well earned time off. Look forward to hearing what you are up to as if I come back to the UK we might be able to meet up for a drink.
Max at fault without question. Plus, when is a penalty going to be a penalty. A 10 second penalty when you are 15 seconds ahead is not a penalty. And finally, manual gearbox all the way. I cannot believe that Mini say there is no demand for manual. That sound like an excuse rather than a reason. So its petrol manual for me.
Never bought an automatic in my life, driven a lot mostly BMW and Mercedes they never get the changes quite right, driven a few CVTs they always seem to be hunting for the right gear. I might have to have one eventually but I would rather not.
The topic the video was supposed to be about starts at: 4:59
Just watched a review of the 2024 GR Yaris, which was a manual, refreshingly enough!
I'll always stick (slight pun intended) to manuals. Have driven (flappy paddle) auto's but gear changing without engaging a clutch feels so utterly pointless to me. It's just like a computer game, so boring.
Right on!
Good afternoon! I'm at work counting down the hours to the 4th of July holiday!
Have fun!
Perfect summary of Max's misdemeanours Pete. As you say nobody has been close enough in the past couple of years for him to revert to type. F1 needs to sort it soon before someone gets hurt. FAB road trip vid and the Pau circuit looks incredible so will try and get there when we're in the Pyrenees for 3 weeks in September. Calle de Tosse is already on our list. Looking forward to watching your GT Tours "underdog" video as I'll be in my Boxster T PDK and my mate will be in his Lotus Emira manual. I'm aiming not to have the least amount of fun! 😂
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Can’t wait for your Junior drive review. Hoping it’s a beauty. 👍
Coming soon!
Personally I like a manual gearbox but….with so much traffic on the roads, nose to tail hold ups and ever increasing traffic lights an automatic makes driving much easier. Will be sticking with my Hybrid
Fair enough!
Had auto boxes on the Honda and Chevy sedan because they are not sporty or off-roady. Manuals are there because you have to choose what gear to use not made by a magic brain. On bikes we have a name for them. Mopeds.
Good Morning, and please excuse my off-topic post. May I suggest a video with your take on driving a car fitted with Intelligent Speed Assist (which I understand the UK will also be implementing from 7 July)? Within 500 yards of my house the speed limit starts at 20 mph, then goes to 30 mph, then back to 20 mph, then up to 60 mph. The prospect of this idiocy reducing power with constant warning bongs if I have the temerity to exceed any of these limits four times in a few minutes is ludicrous. I shall now stick to second hand cars.
Will look into it 👍
Yay! Midweek 180 has returned.
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I enjoyed watching the Video, one of the best Aston Martin Models 😊
Glad you enjoyed it!
No idea if Max was in the wrong. I didn’t see. Glad Merc won though. Some jobs require you to have a manual driving licence.
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Looking at the manual vs auto question objectively the people who want a manual have to like driving. Talking to my friends and relatives they see cars as a tool to go from A to B, needs to look good , comfortable, safe and be at a sensible price point so don’t really care about the manual gearbox , want to go from a to b as easily as possible. I had a quick google and 40% of people like driving) so in theory if you said 50% of those people want a manual that’s 20% of sales MIGHT buy a manual . So Mini are right as 80% of people will get an auto. I feel as an everyday car I would have an auto as most of the time I fall into the A to B category like going to the supermarket or driving to the station and occasionally I want a proper drive (don’t get much time for this so maybe 2-3 times a month) bit of a long answer and the numbers are very very approximate.
Good point mate. You OK ?
I love my automatic because it provides me much more comfort
Cheers mate
Max gets threatened when challenged and reacts accordingly, just as he did when Sir Lewis got fed up of his antics. Red Bull blindness is quite common evidently! Problem with the demise of manual is the push for EV which are mainly auto / semi auto. Manual is far better, more involving,more economical ( using a lighter foot) ,around better!! Have a great Grand Prix
Sir Lewis has a few things to answer for in that regard too mate. Remember Silverstone?
Lewis is a bit of a petulant self-absorbed hypocrite after watching his whole career, but I like Lando. Way less of a twat.
Max was wrong and the 10 second penalty and after the race two points on/ his super licence ❤
Didn’t know about the points. That’s good 👍
I always buy manual cars, unless I but an automatic.
Re the manuel decline - do you think it's due to all the autonomous tech that's needed, would work better with an auto. I liked the drone vid but wish the drone audio was muted and we could just hear your cars engine :)
You make a good point. Subaru is a hood example.
Good point
Super late evening all 🍻🇨🇦👍🏻
Morning!
Summer Dog walk soon, Pete 🤞👍
Maybe 👍
Why aren't we buying manuals?
1. If I'm being honest, for daily purposes the auto 'box is so much more convenient. And with automatic gearbox being more and more reliable these days, can't see any reason why would I buy manuals for day-to-day basis.
2. Meanwhile, manuals for enthusiast cars are now restricted to cars like MX-5 and GR86 (which many so-called 'enthusiasts' complained are not powerful enough), hot hatches like GR Yaris (which some so-called 'enthusiasts' complained are not analogue enough), or expensive things like 992 ST, Sport Classic, Aston Valour and the likes. So when we got cheap manual sportscars we complained because it was not powerful enough, and when they put it on expensive car we complained manufacturers only cares about money (which is true).
3. Prices of cars (and everything in general) has been going off-the-scale these days. When even public transports are being priced beyond belief to a point where putting a plate of meal everyday became a hassle, buying cars (let alone manual cars) isn't perhaps something that comes to the mind of public when they have to spend money.
Contrary with so-called 'enthusiasts', I appreciate all kinds of cars (except Teslas because of Elongated Muskrat). I love great manual gearbox as much as I do with excellent torque-converter automatics or DCTs.
Totally agree, Max needs to have some proper punishment dished out, he’s getting away with it because of who he is. Anthony Davidson on sky summed it up with his review and there is no way he left a cars gap. It’s spoiling the sport for me because of the inconsistency of the punishment ie lando didn’t score a point because of Max! If this was the other way round red bull would be calling for blood. Great news for Mercedes though and good to see that the red bull dominance is finally coming to an end.
In this case I agree Max was in the wrong. However, Sky is famous for it’s impartial coverage involving British drivers right.? 😂
Martin Brundle is a joke, and has his tongue so far down the back of Lu-Lu , Lando and George’s racing suit it’s a wonder he can still commentate as badly as he does. Put that crabby old bell-end out to pasture 😆
Biased AF.
Saw that 👌
The first Auto box I drove was a Borg Warner 3-speed in a Jaguar Mk2. Utter rubbish, The next was a variomatic in a DAF 44. 850cc engine but it left similar cars standing and was so very easy to drive. A short high speed drive across Salisbury Plain in a Morris Marina Auto was horrible. I brought and drove manual cars for years, both Diesel and Petrol , at work I drove some rather speedy cars and bikes at their maximum performance levels.
Then I went EV, and will never go back . Complete control of power to the wheels at all times , cracking acceleration, great braking control and NO horrible noises or smells.
And no emotion.
Horrible noises? What like engine sounds?
@@dimsoneill A couple of years ago a neighbour had a new Aston Martin , presumably with a 'sports' exhaust. When he started it in the morning we could hear it indoors, even with the double glazed windows closed. Why should I have to hear it? Other Aston Martin cars seem not to make that noise, does that mean the driver has a reduced 'emotion' from their car? When I drive my EV I can speak at a normal voice with my passengers, no need to raise it. I can listen to music at a low volume .
The reason that car noises are associated with power is simply historical, Early car exhausts were inefficient , and caused a drop off in performance. Nowadays it is possible to make a quiet car exhaust. It is also possible to make the car interior quiet.
Don't be taken in by last century marketing, drive something that is up to date.
@@solentbum Glorious sounds by the sounds. I would have opened the windows and given your neighbour a thumbs up.😆
The fast EVs I have driven Model 3 performance, Ioniq 5 were boring appliances. They are a bad technology band aid, and will become unsellable white elephants. Give me a good ICE any day.
I envy your interesting life and travel but not the five hour edits from 20 min video
Yeah that the tough bit 😂
Evening all!
Fifth 👍
Who ever said manual cars were 'so good' ped? Certainly not me.
Max at fault as per usually you can't win every corner or race. Lando needs to be very hard and dive bomb the inside corner and let him understand there will be a shunt if he tries it on.
When Lando passed him on the first attempt he out braked himself and correctly gave the place back, on the second attempt he passed him fair and square, did max give the place back after passing off track no he did not.
For sure Max was in the wrong and his punishment was not enough it should have been a 10 second stop and go penalty. With regards Manual cars I do like a manual but only for fun driving. Last week I was travelling down the M25 from Glasgow in Rush Hour and it was hellish and thankfully I was in a brand new Range Rover with an automatic box but next week I will going back to London near Heathrow, in a Manual and I will be making sure I will arrive outside those times. A week of dog sitting for my sister while she is in Italy hopefully it will be warmer & sunnier than here in Scotland and I can top up my tan. Quick question how many 17 year old's who pass their test will be buying electric cars in my experience most buy 10 year old Corsa's or Fiesta's with a manual box ?.
Yes, Max was in the wrong, but in his defence it's been a while since he has had to race anyone, so he has forgotten how to do it cleanly. 😊
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Hey Pete I see you got a pair of new glasses it look good on you 🤓 maybe you should check out a brand call ic Berlin they made a some good glasses there 😅 you'll look good in them !
Had these Oakleys years but I’ll check out that brand 👍
because, secretly, most of so called drivers are imposters, pretenders.
Most just want to pretend that they are some sporty drivers with a passion for cars and for the driving itself but, in reality, they simply want comfort and ease of use...which is mind boggling considering you buy a sports car for the experience, not for ease of usage; having an automatic, regardless of the type is so much detrimental to the spirit of driving and actual enjoyment behind the wheel but, ppl who have the necessary money for these cars, brand new, simply decide the compromise is ok; considering the actual age of said first buyers, I can almost understand them; and that is happening because they are more interested in the image the said sports car and sports cars brand projects on them, then the actual experience of driving.
And now, after I stated my opinion, let's see what's your opinion! 😁😁, "Siri, play the video!"
edit. Cavendish won today his 35th sprint in The Tour!, incredible, just incredible!(at 39 years)
Cavendish has the best doctors , mass spectroscopy specialists and masking agents.
Morning all
Manual Ferrari’s and Lamborghini’s are now rare, so their values are higher than Auto’s. Year’s ago Auto’s were slow, but now they are in some cases faster than Manual’s. The trouble is that in today’s traffic an auto is so much easier. Also with today’s younger generation buying cars with no enthusiasm for driving, as they consider a car as just another consumable item like a fridge with no pride of ownership, paid for on an expensive PCP. It therefore makes no sense for an SUV brick to be manual gears. Every time I see a learner car in my road, it is automatic.
But I own my fridge, it’s permanently garaged and I treasure it, especially its contents.
You need to pick s better analogy!😉😁
@@dimsoneill yes, you are right - change to washing machine or tumble dryer 😂🤣