P365 X-Macro, Or P365 AXG legion. is one really better than the other?

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  • čas přidán 11. 04. 2024
  • The great thing about the EDC pistol market is that there is something for everyone. Take the P365 Macro for example, we have 2 variants of the same pistol. Both pistols are pretty much the same minus some badging and an aluminum grip module. Is one better than the other?

Komentáře • 158

  • @litspeed7940
    @litspeed7940 Před 28 dny +9

    The AXG fits in my hand like a mold! It’s incredible for what it is.
    I don’t understand why so many people don’t want to spend a little extra money on something you could potentially have forever, and it’s the single most important tool in personal protection. Think of all the money wasted on crap you don’t need. Stop spending money. Tighten the belt. Cut out all unnecessary spending and go get the piece you want!!

    • @bun-n-cheese1290
      @bun-n-cheese1290 Před 18 dny

      Just because you like something better doesn't make it better for everyone. Everyone's hand is different and some people don't want the extra weight.

    • @Asidebar
      @Asidebar Před 12 dny

      You can have either forever

    • @ucyberwolf
      @ucyberwolf Před 10 dny +1

      I just upgraded from the macro comp to the AXG. Huge difference for me.

    • @darrenr90
      @darrenr90 Před 10 dny

      How large are your hands? I haven't had a chance to check it out. I have smaller hands, so the p365 was incredibly comfortable for me. Curious how much wider the grip is on the axg.

  • @BanditApache-nd6lu
    @BanditApache-nd6lu Před 2 měsíci +7

    I own all three variants of the X-MACRO. I also own four different Legion models and calibers. Normally I don’t believe the bs. But, I can honestly say, the Legion series including the AXG P-365 are top tier.

  • @WHEELGUNNER1
    @WHEELGUNNER1 Před 2 měsíci +6

    I thought the whole idea of the P365 was to be the smallest, most concealable 9mm. Why does it keep getting larger, while the P320 keeps getting smaller?

  • @traitorhatergetarope3163
    @traitorhatergetarope3163 Před 2 měsíci +11

    Not a steel frame gun guys.. aluminum, hence the AXG designator ( aluminum x grip)

    • @KorEditing
      @KorEditing Před 2 měsíci +1

      its steel frame the grip panels are aluminum

    • @traitorhatergetarope3163
      @traitorhatergetarope3163 Před 2 měsíci +1

      @@KorEditing lol, wow..

    • @J27-usa
      @J27-usa Před měsícem

      @@KorEditingwrong it’s aluminum alloy

    • @jhartmac100
      @jhartmac100 Před měsícem

      @@KorEditing NO

    • @rdrgear
      @rdrgear  Před dnem

      @@traitorhatergetarope3163 you are confused with the other AXG frames.

  • @keithz156
    @keithz156 Před měsícem +10

    Pretty sure they have the same trigger. X-macro probably just more broken in 🤷‍♂️

    • @Pnda_Bear
      @Pnda_Bear Před dnem

      Your exactly right, the axg never got the legion series trigger because sig knew lots of people would carry it, they didnt want people ND’ing and making sig look bad because of a lighter trigger😂

  • @Citizen2ACitizenLLC
    @Citizen2ACitizenLLC Před 2 měsíci +2

    Great video as usual Brother! Thank you for your commitment to the community

  • @PravinDesilva
    @PravinDesilva Před měsícem +1

    The shoe reference was actually very helpful! It’s like comparing To Boot New York or Magnanni $400 dress shoes to Cole Haan $200 dress shoes.

  • @matthewwise3360
    @matthewwise3360 Před 2 měsíci +10

    Not a fair comparison, the legion is tricked out. Glad he said something, flashlights reduce muzzle flip and red dots obviously help. Also, this video should've been half the length, that's a lot of unnecessary bull crap.

    • @rdrgear
      @rdrgear  Před 2 měsíci +2

      2oz flashlight helps with muzzle rise and recoil. Lmao.

    • @matthewwise3360
      @matthewwise3360 Před 2 měsíci +4

      You say that like its negligible. It's almost 10 percent of the weight of the polymer model, even more with a battery seeing as how you've mentioned the weight of a battery-less light. Its also a variable you've not kept common between the two.

    • @rdrgear
      @rdrgear  Před měsícem

      @@matthewwise3360 you honestly think a weapon light is making a difference in muzzle rise.

    • @matthewwise3360
      @matthewwise3360 Před měsícem

      ​Yes, both from a weight standpoint (it's called inertia) and from the standpoint of being a spot to put your support thumb (like a gas pedal).They literally sell weights for this purpose, what's the debate here?@@rdrgear

    • @matthewwise3360
      @matthewwise3360 Před měsícem

      Being a believer in physics and conservation of energy, I do. You are forcing the roughly 355 ft/lbs of most 9mm rounds to exert a rearwards, upwards, and rotational force on a gun that is now 10 percent heavier with that additional weight being far from the center of gravity. Why is this hard?

  • @backwoodstrails
    @backwoodstrails Před 2 dny +1

    Had both, the Legion just fit my hand better so I sold off the other.

  • @Mike-ox1bu
    @Mike-ox1bu Před měsícem +2

    Another good video, thank you... When if ever do You think Sig will release the Sig P365 AXG Legion MacroTacOps? With your experience, could the Non-Compensated (3.7" barrel) with the AXG Frame shoot as flat? Thanks!!!!

  • @Jestrada2267
    @Jestrada2267 Před 2 měsíci +3

    The trigger on the macro probably has a much higher round count than the axg Sig just sent you. I’d switch the fcu and see how much that’s makes a difference. I’d also put the eps and tlr-7 sub back on to compare apples to apples.

  • @tomfrey1609
    @tomfrey1609 Před 2 měsíci +2

    I carry an X and my wife owns an original Macro, I really like the size of her Macro and was debating the various models, good vid comparing some of the differences.

  • @jclark7243
    @jclark7243 Před 2 měsíci +9

    You always know the answer of what gun the host thinks is better when one has a light and red dot and the other has nothing.

    • @rdrgear
      @rdrgear  Před 28 dny

      Not really. Crispy does not shoot
      Red dots so when we do these comparisons. I try to set the guns up so they fit our strengths

  • @juanvaldez6321
    @juanvaldez6321 Před 2 měsíci +1

    Pretty sure you mean aluminum. Can you give us a measurement on the legion frame? I know its 1.3 at the magwell but can't find a measurement for the actual grip

  • @jonn8163
    @jonn8163 Před 2 měsíci +2

    I use the tactical trigger kit in all my 365’s and the reset is so much shorter

  • @FloShoots
    @FloShoots Před 2 měsíci

    Awesome content man I just subbed after your last video on the Tisas 1911 carry and after consideration I’m going with the P365X macro. Much lighter with the same capacity. Keep up the good work brother!🇺🇸

  • @williammatthews2948
    @williammatthews2948 Před 2 měsíci +2

    "Buy 'em both." I like that philosophy. Lol.

  • @effu9375
    @effu9375 Před 2 měsíci

    For AIWB? EDC?

  • @Bryan-1980
    @Bryan-1980 Před 2 měsíci +4

    I just wanted to say I really liked the unfiltered father and son feel this video had. It felt like they could’ve both argued some good points from their personal point of view and Papa could’ve given him some stern real world advice and tech him how to put it into his training rotation. I think that could be a really good series on this channel. Keep if fun, keep it funny and keep it packed full of useful information for a new shorter like that kid 👍🏻

  • @Mrgunsngear
    @Mrgunsngear Před 2 měsíci +4

    🇺🇸

  • @wisco_guy
    @wisco_guy Před 2 měsíci +1

    The P365 series is what the P320 should have been. Sig basically took the slow-selling P250 and changed it to a striker-fired system. There’s a blurring of the lines with the P365 Macro and P320 compact. Other than width, they’re the same size.

  • @johnbuntin7188
    @johnbuntin7188 Před 2 měsíci

    I couldn't tell for sure, is the grip longer on the Legion?

    • @rdrgear
      @rdrgear  Před 2 měsíci

      The grip is not. It does have a mag well, that could make it look longer.

    • @johnbuntin7188
      @johnbuntin7188 Před 2 měsíci

      @@rdrgear Thank you.

  • @jagen304
    @jagen304 Před 12 dny +4

    after having the Axg legion...im looking to buy 365x for daily carry.

    • @alexwalker5645
      @alexwalker5645 Před 10 dny

      Are you finding the axg to be too over the top to carry?

    • @jagen304
      @jagen304 Před 10 dny +1

      @@alexwalker5645 just picked up the regular p365x with safety. im a small dude, the smaller p365x fits my EDC needs better. or else id just carry the legion. the lighter weight, the smaller size, and the safety made it more ideal for everyday carry. the Legion is a targeted carry if i know where im going.

    • @alexwalker5645
      @alexwalker5645 Před 9 dny

      @@jagen304 I hear ya. The regular X really is perfect.

  • @ramone202
    @ramone202 Před měsícem

    What other guns could compete with the two Sigs?

    • @rdrgear
      @rdrgear  Před měsícem +3

      Depends on preference. The 365XL the m&p 2.0 compact,
      Glock 19, G48 All depends on preference and features

  • @markmiela3937
    @markmiela3937 Před 2 měsíci +1

    Held the 365 legion at my guns store today. To small and the slide release isn’t ambi.

  • @poppad3585
    @poppad3585 Před 2 měsíci

    Try switching slides to see if the triggers changes

    • @atomicsmith
      @atomicsmith Před 2 měsíci +1

      Sig triggers don’t work like Glock triggers. Striker spring and striker friction have almost no impact on trigger weight. You wouldn’t be able to feel any difference.

  • @iaidokaDVILL
    @iaidokaDVILL Před 9 dny

    The P365 X-Macro with the small backstrap fits my hand like a glove. I don't have large size hands. In fact, every 9MM pistol I've tried, it was never a perfect fit for my hand size. With the X-Macro, that's no longer an issue.

  • @michaelm233
    @michaelm233 Před 2 měsíci +3

    Train with the gun you carry, not the biggie size of the gun you carry. Muscle memory 👍

    • @rdrgear
      @rdrgear  Před 2 měsíci +1

      Muscles actually don’t have memory, just saying

    • @michaelm233
      @michaelm233 Před 2 měsíci

      Your semantics are wrong. Research muscle memory. It's called science. Just saying 😊

  • @maxbeloat8488
    @maxbeloat8488 Před 2 měsíci +1

    What holster do iou run for the legion? Not a ton of options out there right now

    • @rdrgear
      @rdrgear  Před 2 měsíci

      A x-macro holster I tuned to fit with a heat gun

    • @maxbeloat8488
      @maxbeloat8488 Před 2 měsíci

      @@rdrgear really? So that worked pretty well? Just heated it up with hair dryer? and put the gun in? This may solve all my problems haha

    • @rdrgear
      @rdrgear  Před 2 měsíci

      @@maxbeloat8488 I’m a little more skilled at this than the average guy. But it’s doable for sure. I have been bending kydex for over a decade.

    • @maxbeloat8488
      @maxbeloat8488 Před 2 měsíci

      @@rdrgear okay! I’ll see if if can look some info up on it

    • @Mike-bv2yf
      @Mike-bv2yf Před 2 měsíci

      Tenicor

  • @brandondane4777
    @brandondane4777 Před 2 měsíci +1

    Does the legion come with the not comp barrel?

  • @jhartmac100
    @jhartmac100 Před měsícem

    why didnt the AXG frame compete with Icarus???? no thumb rest?

    • @Asidebar
      @Asidebar Před 12 dny

      I would not want the thumb rest

  • @bbazzracing
    @bbazzracing Před 2 měsíci +3

    I got the sneaker reference

  • @poppad3585
    @poppad3585 Před 2 měsíci

    What’s the overlanding channel name??

  • @a.d.c7941
    @a.d.c7941 Před měsícem +1

    Great review guys. Christian is cool. I like him. U two are so different that u compliment each other very well. I have been trying to decide between the tacops and the legion. This video helps.

  • @venomgt7299
    @venomgt7299 Před 2 měsíci +2

    Interesting. I would imagine the legion shoots better but the macro is more comfortable to carry

    • @rdrgear
      @rdrgear  Před 2 měsíci

      For me the axg is more comfortable.

  • @Taurian321
    @Taurian321 Před 2 měsíci

    Have a X Macro. Just picked up a Staccato C2. Damn....the Xmacro is going to collect dust now. Shoots like a $4K+ gun. Just like my Sig P320 X Five Legion.

  • @davidwarring1572
    @davidwarring1572 Před 7 dny

    I have a xmacro non comp 3.7 barrel with a green dot and light ,i get better groups then that on the average it tac drives the bullseye even double tapping at 7 to 10 yards.

    • @rdrgear
      @rdrgear  Před 6 dny

      @@davidwarring1572 good for
      You. Dm me a video. Of you doing this.

  • @briandyer6809
    @briandyer6809 Před 2 měsíci +3

    For the $400 difference go with Icarus precision macro frame you won't be disappointed.

    • @rdrgear
      @rdrgear  Před 2 měsíci +1

      Agreed. Stock is the issue with those after market frames. I will eventually snag one. They are a nice cosmetic upgrade.

    • @oddballgunman5288
      @oddballgunman5288 Před 2 měsíci

      ​I feel like it's more than just a cosmetic upgrade... The "gas pedals" thumb rest and the overall ergonomics are a huge enhancement for mitigating recoil.

  • @willy4869
    @willy4869 Před 2 měsíci +1

    Go and grab the MCarbo trigger for the 365. Done deal. It is so much better. It's not even close. Worth every penny.

  • @greysitecontent
    @greysitecontent Před dnem

    Dig you have Camera Guy on the review. 😊

    • @rdrgear
      @rdrgear  Před dnem

      @@greysitecontentyes crispy jumps on with me now and then.

  • @jeremylyson8278
    @jeremylyson8278 Před 2 měsíci +10

    Come on man. Compare them with a dot, and light on both.

  • @paulsbuildingandpropetyyma544

    The woolly hat guy seems a bit of a mummy's boy..

  • @bbazzracing
    @bbazzracing Před 2 měsíci

    The Legion grips are aluminum not steel. The AXG Pros have steel grips.

  • @nchellcatbadboy3625
    @nchellcatbadboy3625 Před 2 měsíci +1

    My local gun shop in charlotte nc just got 4 of the legions in. Sold out immediately with me getn the 4th one. Got delayed 😢(5days) bought the cz shadow 2 compact several months ago. Don't like the da or safety so this will be the replacement. That gun the carry optic and a good holster and im I'm business

  • @4coopdawg
    @4coopdawg Před měsícem +4

    Great gun but the trigger sucks !!! Not as bad as Glocks but very close !! Crazy my cheapest gun has the best trigger CZP10C.

    • @gregaloisi6062
      @gregaloisi6062 Před měsícem +1

      Agree, this is my first pistol. recently bought hellcat pro for conceal and I shoot way better with p10

  • @dilfbag
    @dilfbag Před 2 měsíci

    🤘 😁 🤘

  • @tylerfrogley1227
    @tylerfrogley1227 Před 2 měsíci +6

    Aluminum frame, but we understood whatchyu mean

    • @SnD340
      @SnD340 Před 2 měsíci

      P365 AXG is not aluminum.
      AXG stands for alloy x series grip.
      Not aluminum. You can confirm this by looking it up directly on sigs website.

    • @tylerfrogley1227
      @tylerfrogley1227 Před 2 měsíci +1

      @@SnD340 aluminum alloy. Not steel
      It’s the same material as the 320 AXG grip module. If you look at the product page you will see “aluminum alloy”

    • @SnD340
      @SnD340 Před 2 měsíci

      @@tylerfrogley1227 it’s like gold purity.
      Lower karat gold will have metal mixed with it. Although it’s “gold” you cannot forget to address the fact it isn’t pure.
      Same goes for the AXG

    • @rdrgear
      @rdrgear  Před 2 měsíci +2

      Metal, aluminum you all can look for your wins.

    • @tylerfrogley1227
      @tylerfrogley1227 Před 2 měsíci

      @@rdrgear hhahahahhaha amen

  • @effu9375
    @effu9375 Před 8 dny

    Should have waited for the p365 fuse

  • @InGratitudeIam
    @InGratitudeIam Před 2 měsíci +1

    This was a really disappointing comparison in terms of how you conducted this.
    At the very least, you should have shot both guns with lights attached. Was yours welded in place? Or were you just being "expedient?"
    Also, Wilson Combat's polymer grip module for this gun has a palm swell and only costs about $70.

    • @rdrgear
      @rdrgear  Před 2 měsíci +1

      Expedient. I’m not a fan of any of the Wilson grips. Reviews are just opinions and starring points it’s up to you to find out what works. I personally don’t run weapon lights on EDC guns

  • @manofthepeople2165
    @manofthepeople2165 Před 2 měsíci

    1:55 MAWP MAWP

  • @TheAdequateMedia
    @TheAdequateMedia Před 2 měsíci

    so i own the OG version and recently shot the legion at the range(i think it's featured briefly in a short i posted a couple days ago) but yeah you'd really really have to be a sig fanboy to make that purchase over something different for the price. especially for a gun that can't take a barrel longer than 3.1 inches. Cool video though

  • @blackirish4416
    @blackirish4416 Před 2 měsíci

    👍🏾👍🏾👍🏾👍🏾💯🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸

  • @barryquarles2172
    @barryquarles2172 Před 2 měsíci +6

    Bogus test/comparison-dot versus irons

  • @ehornad
    @ehornad Před 2 měsíci +2

    Please stop calling the ALUMINUM x grip a steel frame😊

    • @davidhudson2527
      @davidhudson2527 Před 2 měsíci +1

      Is it ok to call ALUMINUM casing, steel casing, your Honor? 😂

    • @dcarnes1
      @dcarnes1 Před 2 měsíci +1

      Sigs website says the grip module is alloy which is not aluminum. Steel is considered an alloy.

  • @philliplatham4256
    @philliplatham4256 Před 2 měsíci +1

    👍🏻👍🏻🇺🇸🇺🇸💯💯🔫🔫☕️☕️

  • @antabb7485
    @antabb7485 Před měsícem +4

    I own both and sig did a horrible job on the triggers!!

    • @coleaugustine8260
      @coleaugustine8260 Před měsícem +3

      Nobody agrees with you majority of people love the trigger

    • @4coopdawg
      @4coopdawg Před měsícem +2

      I totally agree the trigger isn’t very good.

    • @htam07
      @htam07 Před 25 dny

      Found the trigger snob

    • @MindOverMatter38
      @MindOverMatter38 Před 9 dny

      It’s decent.. for damn sure not horrible..

    • @GiganticRooster-kn2lj
      @GiganticRooster-kn2lj Před 8 dny

      And today on another episode of that never happened....

  • @paulparadis66
    @paulparadis66 Před 2 měsíci +29

    And that's why you don't wear those useless ear buds. Wear good ear pro.

    • @TheRealEricRose
      @TheRealEricRose Před 2 měsíci +5

      But I wanna be cool bro

    • @ChristianFarrington
      @ChristianFarrington Před 2 měsíci +1

      I watched this whole video again to see what your comment was referencing and I can’t piece it together.
      I have electronic IN ear and over ear ear pro and I switch back and forth depending on what I’m feeling. What’s wrong with that?

    • @paulparadis66
      @paulparadis66 Před 2 měsíci

      @ChristianFarrington That 2nd or 3rd shot rang your bell. You flinched as soon as the old guy fired. Around the 1:55 mark.

    • @AJohnSmith
      @AJohnSmith Před 2 měsíci

      @@ChristianFarringtonThose glasses won’t protect your eyes from an errant shell casing. I know bc it happened to me. Wrap arounds only for the range. Protect your money maker.

    • @ChristianFarrington
      @ChristianFarrington Před 2 měsíci +1

      @@AJohnSmithwe had a frag incident pretty recently. So new eye pro is on the horizon forsure

  • @evolution2k6
    @evolution2k6 Před 2 měsíci +2

    PDP Pro Compact SD is far superior over both of these sig pistols. FACT!

    • @garrettbaker530
      @garrettbaker530 Před 2 měsíci +4

      Full inch larger with only 1 more round, basically twice the width, non carry magwell, and a threaded barrel that serves no purpose on a carry gun. How exactly is it "far superior"?

    • @rdrgear
      @rdrgear  Před 2 měsíci +6

      Great pistol. far superior is a comment made from someone who has not shot all three. When I see and read these statements. I highly doubt the person posting them even owns the gun they say is better than the pistol in the review.

    • @rdrgear
      @rdrgear  Před 2 měsíci +3

      Shocker! Comment coming from a car guy

  • @lurtiskoe
    @lurtiskoe Před 2 měsíci +2

    they both suck. especially for the stupid price they're asking. carried a XL for the last 4 years or whatever its been. just picked up a czp10c used for like 250 and its got a aftermarket trigger in it and hitting bullseyes at 25 yards over and over where my sig just dances around it. i thought i liked he sig but naaa

    • @BossHugo84
      @BossHugo84 Před 2 měsíci +1

      You must not own , you sound stupid

  • @dylanmalone4267
    @dylanmalone4267 Před 7 dny

    Shoots better with irons my ass

  • @BossHugo84
    @BossHugo84 Před 2 měsíci +2

    Fuck this was hard to watch , please keep him behind the Camera .

    • @ChristianFarrington
      @ChristianFarrington Před 2 měsíci +4

      Sorry you didn’t enjoy the free content brother.

    • @BossHugo84
      @BossHugo84 Před 2 měsíci +1

      @@ChristianFarrington it’s Not Free you waisted my time and I pay for CZcams Premium. Your better behind the Cam then in front.

    • @ChristianFarrington
      @ChristianFarrington Před 2 měsíci +4

      @@BossHugo84it’s a hard life isn’t it?

    • @ChristianFarrington
      @ChristianFarrington Před 2 měsíci +2

      @@BossHugo84 Hugo boss said “waisted”

    • @BossHugo84
      @BossHugo84 Před 2 měsíci

      @@ChristianFarrington I’m fucking with you men , have a good weekend .

  • @OldmanSnake
    @OldmanSnake Před 2 měsíci +7

    Neither. Sig sucks. I'd rather carry a Hellcat Pro, Staccato Cs, S&W. All of my sigs have rusted and had issues. They beta test with the public

    • @BossHugo84
      @BossHugo84 Před 2 měsíci +4

      Hellcat lol at least say G43x lol

    • @cassiusrossin4937
      @cassiusrossin4937 Před měsícem +1

      Hell yeh hellcat pro!

    • @MrByTheMile
      @MrByTheMile Před 12 dny +2

      My sigs have never failed. Full steel. Great firearm

  • @wintersoldier4335
    @wintersoldier4335 Před 2 měsíci +2

    BOTH SIG garbage that will shoot you whenever they feel like it get a Canik Glock or CZ or something else

    • @jonn8163
      @jonn8163 Před 2 měsíci +3

      Carry what you wanna carry but why the pussy attitude?

    • @atomicsmith
      @atomicsmith Před 2 měsíci +3

      We found the informed opinion! Didn’t even know the difference between 320s and 365s….

    • @rdrgear
      @rdrgear  Před 2 měsíci +7

      Tell you know nothing without telling me. Gotta know what you are talking about my friend.