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Extra Credits In what position are the "Wargaming's games"? World of Warships, World of Warplanes and World of Tanks.
Extra Credits, what about SCP: Containment Breach
What about the Undertale numbers and jrpgs?
I feel like these numbers may be log-normally distributed. What do the distribution look like after applying the log function?
how many people play the binding of isaac rebirth and its dlc (afterbirth,afterbirth+)
3:57
Car salesman: *slaps roof of bus *
This bad boy can fit so much people in it.
That's one tall car salesman, but why is a car salesman selling a bus?
@@hideoeduardokojima8340 asking the real questions here
@@hideoeduardokojima8340 someone tell Jimmy Broadbent
skyrim at place 11.
released at 11.11.11 coincedence? ... yeah most likely . still funny
I searched the comments to see if anyone else pointed out this amusing coincidence.
*Todd is displeased*
11 likes for this comment. There's not such thing as coincidence.
Half Life 11 confirmed
11 in binary is 3 in decimal... Half Life 3 confirmed!
Fernbus is about to get a spike in players.
It only has a 50% positive review, so you do you.
But also only 30€. That's low enough for many to just try. Even more now that Steam refunds.
prezadent1 I don’t have a steam account lol. Of the thousands of people that watch this video there has to be some that try out the game.
i've seen a few pretty popular german youtubers play fernbus simulator and well that might has something to do with it
Aaah, the lovely Gronhk?
The fact that Unturned got to be on the list makes me legitimately happy. I remember the guy who made it back when he was making betas on unity, or even further back when he was competing for views on Roblox. Back when many of the mechanics were split between two games, Deadzone a zombie/pvp survival game, and Into the Frost a more hardcore crafting and survival game. He's come so far since then, and it's one of the most inspiring success stories for an indie dev that I've ever heard of.
I paused the video after hearing that unturned was on the list and replayed that part of the video just to make sure I was hearing that correctly
Good memories on this game
> Mentions Total War Series played more then COD
We made it boys! Strategy games will never die!
> Mentions Divinity Original Sin and Pillar's of Eternity
Those are Rookie numbers, you gotta pump those numbers up baby!
So happy Strategy games are still surviving even though they aren't multiplayer or stream friendly games.
Well; Strategy games are at home on the PC.
I'm really proud of being able to say that one of those billion games with achievements on steam is mine, thanks extra credits for fueling my passion for game development
Which game?
anirudh mohanty Stophat, it's really short and with just one achievement though 😅
Well you got it on steam and it has mostly positive reviews. That's more than most people can say.
Will try it out. :)
Mind if I ask you how hard it was to get that game on steam?
Jeez Spain, step up your game.
Firock Finion maybe if Spain had a free weekend they could get more people to give it a try.
KittenKindness I mean, technically Spain is free to play, it's probably just that the heavy pay-to-win elements discourage anyone who isn't swimming in money to even try it
Yeah, things got way less fun after they released Franco into the game. He was terrible to play against. But at least they removed him eventually.
I tried Spain, but I quit because of all of problems you listed. I personally prefer Norway, even if it's smaller.
... Never thought I would find you here.
Really happy about Civ 5 still being popular. A non-gamer friend of mine decided start playing Civ and asked for my advice. He insisted on buying Civ 6 because it was "new" and had "better graphics", but I eventually convinced him to get Civ 5 because it had so much more content and was better balanced (in my opinion). The complete bundle went on sale last month for like, $10 and I frantically told him what a good deal that was, so he picked it up and is now playing it and having a great time!
But now he really wants to have a multiplayer match with me because he wants to destroy me as Gandhi (my friend is Indian btw) :p
You should have recommended CivIV, it has only gone downhill since it.
in some ways yes and in others no, civ 5 has a much better combat system, no more stacking hundreds of units in one tile and bashing it out, it also has a better culture system, though at the sacrifice of a more in depth economy system, civ 5 also has its religion system, which is cool in multiplayer, overall i miss expansions like beyond the sword and such, along with the unique scenarios, though the smokey skies scenario more than makes up for it
It is a matter of preference. The Civ4 battle system was not just stacking as their were also anti-stack weapons, and the AI was much better at using that combat rather than the silly cramped combat of Civ5.
I'm sure he has his nukes ready for when the time comes.
Gandhi's Nuclear Apocalypse
A half-life 3 joke is about the only thing we will ever get from half-life 3
HL3 has become a HL3 joke.
they are just waiting for the year 3333
We need a new calendar system, because I'm pretty sure it won't come out until 33-3-'33
Let's be honest, at this stage an HL3 joke almost certainly SHOULD be all we get of HL3. Nothing Valve releases could meet the expectations or make the wait worthwhile.
I wish Valve would learn how to count past two.
Lol, I hope Kratos *spreading the AAA cash* becomes a staple for future episodes 😂
Look at all this money we have, Boy
BOI
"you knew a half life 3 joke was coming"
yeah, but i know what game isn't coming :(
too soon T~T
although i wouldn't give up hopes, im pretty sure at least two potential half life three's were in development, but died out. and im pretty sure epistle 3 was released specifically to give a potential hl3 freedom in writting
aged like cheese
i just finished hl1 and i am playing hl2
Victoria 3 :(
“That sonavabitch and his unforeseen consequences! Come on Gordon, we got work to do! *throws crowbar*” from the end credits scene of half life alyx
Remember when the gaming industry at large said cRPGs were dead cause noone would ever buy em anymore? 1.5 millions sounds like a lot more than 0 to me.
Single or local-multiplayer RPGS really will never go away.
The AAA say they're dead, because they can't sink the millions of dollars into the title. 1.5 million players is not enough for them to turn a profit when they spend 200 million on a title.
BUT for smaller teams, the indies, the sub AAA developers and the like, that 1.5 million is more than enough to keep the lights on.
It's kinda like why a giant electronics company like Intel won't mass produce basic electronic components - the amount of money they'll receive isnt enough to justify the expense to thier shareholders. But smaller companies, ones without or few shareholders, have no such restriction.
Elder scrolls isnt a classical rpg.
Yeah, Pillars of Eternity, the Shadowrun series, Wasteland 2, the Divinity series (just to name a few) are definitely more like Elder Scrolls than a late 90s/early 00s Baldur's Gate or Fallout.
Okay, I'm going to sound like a total noob, but what's a cRPG?
I LOVE digging into data sets like this. As a Numbers Nerd this is a top notch video. Cheers!
Beer By The Numbers Yes! Fellow numbers nerds unite!
r/numbersporn?
warframe is probably going to get more popular however because of recent updates and reveals
6:45 I was like: "... I've never heard of 'Live in Spain'."
"More people have played no man's sky on stream than nier automata"
Heart attack.
RIP.
I literally backed awayfrom the monitor in horror for a second there
played not liked
Nier is newer and still 60 bucks USD
And yet more people who have played Nier have seen evidence of other players than anyone in no man's sky.
Also, remember No Man's Sky had a lot more hype upon release. That's bound to inflate its numbers.
3:49 Did I just hear a 'heck' and NOT see a snek?
oh no
Glad I'm not the only one who felt that void.
I was about to comment the same. Come on, new Dan
It seems like Heck Snake was inseparably bound to a specific Dan
A Handsome Fridge I saw Heck Snek in at least one of the post-Dan videos.
My favorite Steam game is HOI4. I usually play as the Soviet Union, Germany, Tuvalu (I surprisingly do well invading other South Pacific nations), Nauru, and a fascist Argentina (which I'm usually unsuccessful in invading the Falklands).
Avery Lopez-Baines yeah m8. Especially with all the mod support like Kaiserreich, Great War, Iron Curtain, Führerreich and Millenium Dawn and Road to 56.
Virginia Country home (I don‘t know the official name but it is just a meme mod anyway :D)
Btw i also love Europa Universalis ;)
You're only a true Hoi4 player if you did a world conquest as Ironman Liberia
Rlly? Git gud scrub, and do a Tannu Tuva world Conquest.
Avery Lopez-Baines yo fellow hoi4 player I love the game as well
HOI 4 memin intensified
Civ 6 streamedlined too much. But the faith mechanic was interesting.
Then again, ever Civ game makes major changes. It's a series where it's perfectly acceptable to play the older titles because each Civ is essentially a unique game. Personally, my favorites are Alpha Centauri and Civ IV.
Seriously this. I want the complexity of Civ IV, with the layout of Civ V and the graphics of Civ VI. Giving me the graphics of Civ VI but the mechanics of a mobile game is annoying as hell.
I would argue the changes with civ 5 were far more dramatic than between any of the previous civs. Moving to hex might be the biggest visual change, but single units per hex changed the game tremendously. Certainly it beats out the changes between civ 1 and civ 2 where the only really impactful changes were hit points/firepower and engineers.
Single unit hexs turned me off 5 but strangely the kinda worked in 6. I think they modified their map generation to have less chokepoints.
My favorite is Civ 2.
I keep a win 98 vm just so I can fire up Civ I for windows on occasion. Still the only one I ever grew attached to.
"the list goes like this: 1. team fortress 2" ok you can stop right there thats all that really matters
i am legally forced to agree
That adventure game stat makes me sad. I really like adventure games, and I hope they don't die a second death. :(
I concur..
.though in fairness, I have yet to beat any of the ones I actually own, on any platform. Quest For Glory, Monkey Island, Grim Fandango...all these really great titles are victims of my ADHD. (I'm not being hyperbolic, I literally have that)
It's sad because I WANT to get into them, but after a while not finding anything, or dying over and over again because i keep not figuring out how to combat, I just...let the game drift out of my consciousness until the next time I see an "Adventure games are awesome!" thing and want to instinctively agree.
I think one big problem for me at least, is that most adventure games fall between impossible dumb puzzles or the telltale series that really don't have much of a challenge to them. Puzzle agent was one I really liked though.
Don't be too sad. Most adventure games can be bought on other online platforms like GoG, so I suspect that a lot of those numbers are split. Not to mention that they are often cheaper to make, so they don't need huge numbers to keep a studio afloat and cranking them out.
On the bright side they seemed to survive the first death so it can't be that bad.
Trebax278 Agreed. You need to find that balance, and a net total of zero modern games do. TBH I also think you need to give the modern player more solid interaction than point and click, perhaps even fusing it together with certain walking sim mechanics, because point and click is quite literally the least engaging mechanic I can name. The two genres merged into one will most definitely do better fiscally than the sum of their parts.
I hate this heavy competition driven era.
*plays alone in a corner*
That's why I'm still playing Skyrim :p
Check out Factorio multiplayer server for once and you will find out how it feels like to be a Probe in Star Craft. The community is great.
I give an 11 out of 10!
That’s why The Witcher 3 is the only game I’ve finished in near a decade. And the only one I’ve played twice in even longer...
Singleplayer isn't dead. Last time I checked my pulse was still there :p
*takes a seat in the corner at the other side of the room*
Just wanted to say that this episode sounded great. I don't know if you changed your recording settings or just how you're speaking/enunciating... But it sounds a lot better than some previous episodes. Less "screamy" and less "harsh" sounds that seemed to bother me in the past. Interesting info and good episode.
I'm very glad that the 'exuberance' of the speaker has been tuned down a little, makes it much more relaxing to watch and gives me some more time to actually reflect on what's being said. Well done guys, interesting stuff with this raw data.
""less people have played undertale on steam, then goat sim" This might be my favourite fact
Yep, definitely the right decision to mention the number 11:D
Ironic, considering the game was released on 11-11-11.
the Fernbus sim dosn't surprise me. A bunch of German Letsplayer LOVE these mundane Sims. Some of them just ironically, but it still boosts sells.
Jui Yes. Even the biggest German Let's Player with around 5 million subs played this game. This alone probably made a few thausand sales
Fucking Gronkh
@@ShouldOfStudiedForTheTest watch your language! :c
Jui Ducking Gronkh!
@@ShouldOfStudiedForTheTest Thank you!
3:51 Wait, where was heck snek?! Someone dropped the ball! Or the legless green slithering thing.
oh phew I'm glad I'm not the only one who noticed, and was upset by this.
The sneks might not have achievements....
Euro Truck Simulator 2 is beautiful and relaxing game. That's why it has large player base.
"You cannot get ye flask". I'm loving the Homestar Runner references!
And "cheap as free"? That's an advanced one!
This was a fun little episode, would appreciate more like this every once in a while! :)
Fantastic video. Very eye opening. This provided great industry insight into game genres I enjoy as well as player base numbers I wasn't fully aware of. I will definately share this vid and rewatch it in the future! Keep up the great work Extra Credits!
Hooray CK2, looks like all that time played into it wasn't just wasted. (also how did EU4 not get played as long)
CK2 got a huge boost from the free giveaway of the game they had that one weekend.
Yea, I was really happy when he mentioned it! It’s one of the best games out there
In what other game can you have an Aztec Viking take over Egypt and then get China to Invade the Holy Roman Empire?
A Civilization game?
What you meant to say was: In which game do you plot to murder your wife so you can marry your half-sister that is the second in line to inherit Byzantium, and then kill the Emperor and his heir so your son becomes the next in the line of succession to the title. A title you want because it will make you powerful enough to erase from existence the dynasty you have a feud with after a duke of said family revoked a barony of your count grandfather.
Also, CK2 is like... Paradox's little baby xD It has been widely its most popular title for a long time. EU4 is fun and quite popular too, but CK2 had already established itself by then.
good video like always!
Love this channel. Keep up the awesome work!
Nice job at the end!
CS:GO is so popular because it’s become a way of life in eastern Europe and a part of Slavic life.
RUSH B CYKA BLYAT
3:56 This bus simulator can fit so many players in it.
As always, keep the great videos coming! ❤
Gotta love how that "next big thing" box just loomed into view. :)
11 minutes after release = 2,073 views
Good job EC! Been watching you for years!
It was well worth including #11.
Proud of making CK2 show up there :)
OMG man thank you for dialling down on being INTENSE with your speaking manner, I can finally watch Extra Credits again.
The part about survival game players play more then one survival game is true I think. I play Ark, Space engineers, unturned, minecraft, and farsky. All survival games
Logan Schlosser I totally agree. The point is that they scratch slightly different itches, like Space Engineer allows me to build something in free space and than explore something with that, while 7Days brings you the horror of standing alone/in a small group against the world and your own hunger. You have only the safe space you create, not like dying light. And Rust is fun for a limited time
The 2 Steam games I've logged the most hours into are Don't Starve and Rimworld.
Lemmie see... Terraria, Minecraft, Starbound, 7 Days.... Does Fallout 4 count? It does have a survival mode...
Space Engineers is more sandbox than survival. Wolves and spiders are easily taken care of with a turret or two. Oxygen is easily taken care since you just need a bit of ice for a ton of oxygen. Really Minecraft is more survival than Space Engineers, but even it I would argue is still a sandbox.
Yeah, I play Minecraft and ARK but I will definetly buy Subnautica. I'm just waiting for it to have multiplayer so I can play it with a friend.
extra credit: still not enough fro half life 3
Valve: _im about to end this mans whole career_
This Video was really interesting! Keep doing the good work
I'm just glad Space Engineers made the video. :)
"For a few short glorious days"
Wait, so this achievement counting technique was taken down already? Damn.
I really hope Steam provides an API for research.
No mention of Visual Novels? They are more popular than a lot of people think. Of course Humble Bundles and similar water the numbers down quite a bit.
For me there are more visual novels put out onto Steam than most people are able to play and try out.
The problem with visual novels is that there are too many to go round, and most are terribly low quality. It's harder to Wade through the mess than it is for even other widely oversaturated genres, sending games like VA-11 Hall-A into permanent undeserved obscurity.
Could you give me an example of a good representative of that genre. Even after googling it, I can not get a sense of that genre.
Just A User Danganranpa, Doki Doki Literature Club (free! But very dark and the first two hours are misleading), VA-11 Hall-A, several really raunchy titles like Hunie Pop, Steins;Gate, but I'm not a big fan of the genre so that's all I got.
Just A User Okay the best explanation would be to discuss the origins. For the longest time it was basically just a long string of dialogue you clicked through, with character portraits across a generic background. Hence the name - you were essentially reading a novel, which is why during the genre's outset there were constant accusations that visual novels aren't "real" games - there was no challenge or fail state.
The first innovation was choices, like a choose your own adventure novel. Even today the appeal of many VNs (Visual Novels) is the many endings you can get. In many cases they're mostly or all "good endings" that don't reprimand the player for their choices, and it's literally all just personal choice when you end up.
Not long after they got more interactive by way of a subgenre of visual novels that draws ire from moral arbiters and internet trolls to this day - the "dating sim" (not all of which are VNs, but which definitely originated there). The genre added a series of social mechanics to the genre as a whole, making them more "game-y" overall. This led to the very, very interactive modern visual novels like Danganranpa. Also good to note. Since the dating sim subgenre also came out of Japan, and since it was so easy to make anime styled character portraits even if you had a very Western style of writing, VNs suddenly got a second undeserved bad rep as "nothing but anime games", which of course is totally false but still persists due to how many of the worst visual novels over-use the worst of anime tropes.
Then finally came Steam, which led to a lot of experimentation in a short time. Which leads to the diverse and unique genre of today.
At its core a visual novel is a game where you cycle through dialogue with characters, usually represented by a character portrait juxtaposed across a static background image, with dialogue choices and social mechanics thrown in leading to some challenge and often differing endings. It's a genre looked down on even more than Walking Sims, but it has so much more potential.
This channel always finds a way to get me in the mood for Civ or Total War.
Are you sure the ending music is Penguin Cap? It sounds like a SAVE the world remix
In what position is Hearts of Iron 4 and Europa universalis 4?
Fantomato lower than ck2 since they didn't have a free to play weekend, just dig through the paradox plaza subreddit for specifics
Hearts of Iron 4: 252, Europa Universalis 4: 173
Kasper Oja rip i thought higher for hoi4
i'm not surprised. ck2 and eu4 have play periods that cover centuries, and allow for a tremendous diversity of player goals. hoi4 has a similar learning cliff, but kind of feels like you're wearing a straightjacket if you're coming from the other games.
+Daemonworks But if you came to eu4 and ck2 AFTER hoi4 (like me) it is very interesting.
YAY! EC finally talked about AoE II. Well, let's say mentioned, I'm still waiting for that day though.
Again, you have provided the kind of content that I come to Extra Credits for. And in this case, I had no idea I wanted to know until you let me know that I could know.
Love the Homestar Runner reference :D "You cannot get ye flask"
what about RPGs and JRPGs how do they hold up?
Good question, though I heard Valkyria Chronicles on Steam sold WAY BEYOND Sega's expectations.
No wonder, Valkyria Chronicles was a great game xd especially for current Sega standards.
There's something wrong with your metrics I think. Particularly on player count on the top game by player count. The top 4 are known to have player with multiple accounts and have a pretty decent ban rate as well as people botting and cheating to farm items for the online market.
This kinds of things seem a bit complex to track via the data he's going off of.
I mean, he did add a disclaimer at the very start of this that this is what the data being reviewed was. Whenever you do an analysis, you have to consider the data in question.
the numbers that where available made it possible to get the number of accounts that have played the game.
(because what was leaked was the percentage of players that obtained a achievement compared to the total number of players that played that game)
there is no possibility to filter out bots and etc. based only on these numbers
that is also why games with a free weekend have higher numbers on that list, because people tried the game without buying it. and games without achievements are not represented.
sidenote: it is actually quite amazing how those numbers where calculated, there was a ars technica article about it a while ago.
TF2 is obviously going to be on top, it has been played for over 10 years and it's free to play
3:57
Fernbus salesman:*slaps roof of Fernbus* This bad boy can fit so many people in it
The Homestarrunner references in the visuals of this video are greatly appreciated
Warframe ❤❤❤
I must say operator your chosen warframe suits you Haaa Haaaa
For a TripleA game that let you play for free is good, but, grinding is what I not in choice for....
@Rodigo Duterte Name a game similar to Warframe that doesn't require some form of grinding. Bonus points if it's F2P.
I know i'm not the sane one here but in a lot of game i like farming. I play a loot of Disgaea/Warframe so i'm happy to see numbers gets bigger
AuraCreed Uhh, this was a really bad comparison. I have only 100hrs and I'm loving the game, but it will only be fun for those who accepts the grind. It's just too much ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
"tf2 is dying"
number one: team fortress 2
Total players not current players
They are talking about my baby: titanfall 2. :(
TF2 never dies
5:18 references one of the great indie game series of Internet history: Thy Dungeonman! The world owes so much to Videlectrix.
4:00
Bus Salesman: *slaps roof of Bus* "This thing can fit so many freaking thankful people in it."
I'm a bit confused, are those numbers based on the number of players that have bought a steam game with achievements, or the number of player that obtained at least one achievement in a steam game ?
Because that could make some difference, personnally I'm an absolute fan of Paradox games, and yet, I have no achievements in any of them, despite having sunk hundreds of hours in them, for the simple reason that I never play ironman and have a tendency to use a lot of mods. I don't think on the grand scale it'll make an enormous difference, but still.
So to explain how these numbers were found out, do you know the global achievement stats screen (library > view all achievements > view global achievement stats)? It shows for each achievement the percentage of how many players that played the game got it. These percentages are rounded to 1 decimal place here, but a couple weeks ago, someone found a way to get these numbers before they got rounded down (with like, 16 decimal places or something) (this has since been fixed). From there, you could accurately determine what the original player numbers were before they got turned into percentages, so 100% is obviously the number of all players who ever played the game, including you, even if you didn't get any achievements. Hope that clears it up, the video did a bad job explaining this.
Bro don’t make fun of euro truck that game is fire. Now I just need a flight sim to borrow the company management idea.
Elite?
Carewolf what?
The game Elite has sometimes been called Euro Truck in space as much of it can be trucking goods around between the stars.
Carewolf bra elite dangerous doesn’t have a learning curve it’s a Fukien cliff I ant got time for that
I would love to see a follow up on this to see if things have changed over the years
You are a great succesor to this chanell
I thought Undertale didn't have any achievements, how did you get that data? Is the data available online?
Appearently it does have them.
CK2, we just need to get rid of the Gavelkind and we get get better
1:52 I be damned if those are not a couple of things right off the bat xD
This is part of why I love this channel so much; these puns are glorious.
I just want to say, since I didn't see any other comments about it, that I really appreciated the "Get ye flask" reference
Is it just my imagination, or have there been a lot more sponsored videos since the change in host?
What about games purchased but never even played? :D I'm guilty of that!
Your a job creator. The industry depends on you.
hahaha I know, right! ;D
Andy Davies accurate, consumers are job creators.
Those don't count in this data, because you haven't earned any achievements.
super well made video made my day thanks
all the commeneters here all so cool
I released a small free game on the Windows Store, google play AND steam... By the end of the first week it had ~10000 downloads on steam, 3 downloads on the Windows Store and 5 downloads on the Play store. I'm amazed at how much stronger steam is to distribute games compared to the other platforms.
I'm a little surprised Guns of Icarus didn't come up at all. It's one of those games that seems like EVERYONE has played it, if only for a single, brief session. Maybe that's not long enough to earn an achievement from it?
Wiksolop72 yeah.....
That steam card farmer bot did his job
It has a set of incredibly easy tutorial achievements, so I would say most who have played earned at least 1.
I've never even heard of it, and I am on Steam all the time, I currently have a library of over 400 games, and I comb the store looking for new, interestingly-reviewed games during the sales... I think you are biased because probably your friends on Steam like many of the same games as you and so it seems like most people YOU play with or know have tried it. Clearly whatever this game is, it is something which Steam does not think I would like, so it never shows it to me in ads or the genre lists I tend to look at. For me, the game which "everybody has played" recently is Slay the Spire... however, maybe this game doesn't really register as popular to you from what you see, or maybe you haven't even heard of it? Different strokes I guess.
I have it, because it was free for a day or so, but have no interest in playing it. Only 5 out of my about 70 friends even own it.
A public Half-Lief-3 joke?! WHAT HAVE YOU DONE>!?
Half Life 3 will now be delayed by 30 years!
well hello there
That ad at the end. "No paywalls" directly followed by "Free trial."
Currently, my top 3 favorite games on Steam are “From the Depths”, “Terra Tech”, and “Avorion”
What’s common between these games are building and fighting foes with your creations
I was saying, "Where is Fortnite?"
Then remembered, "Oh! Fortnite is on epic games."
Fortnite bad
Why do I even watch this channel still? I’ve given up on trying to make games and the only video games I really play right now is overwatch and ROBLOX?
Oh, wait, I know!
It’s because this channel is AMAZING-!
Dont give up on your dream! Even if you only have half an hour to an hour each week to work on your project go for it! Making games is an art and an expression of self. Almost anything you can create has value if you put your heart, blood, sweat and tears into it!
I agre...
But don't quit. Seriously. Keep designing, even if it's only a pencil-and-paper game. Find someone to collaborate with, discuss your ideas. Keep that part of your brain exercised.
I still have an idea for an X-Men game in the Skylanders 'collectible content' style that'll probably never see the light of day, but I still want to work on it.
Curt Clark Oh-
What
No-
I’m a middle schooler who made a few games on scratch once and started watching this channel to help me get ideas. I stopped for two reasons-
1- my computer doesn’t work very well anymore
And
2- It just got less fun for me to do.
Talking Plant your second point can be dealt with, same with the first, just start working as soon as you can, meanwhile brainstorm for ideas
I don't make games, just like watching the channel. You can enjoy the hcannel for its content without feeling like you need to make the content they talk about. Also, Extra History has relevant stuff for non-game makers and non-gamers.
I'm glad strategy games (one of my favorite genres, especially grand strategy) aren't flagging. CK2 is a game I really want right now. Good to see the genre going strong.
Homestar runner reference nice.
I am curious how much of the list is littered with shovelware and asset flips.
TF2 is love. TF2 is life.... Haaaaaaatttttssss
Zman Jace
still the best war-themed hat sim
Zman Jace verly gud
It's too bad it's only a shell of its former self these days.
I wish we had more devs on the team
its more of an evolving giant, though I do wish some features would come back (I miss amby)
My friends and I played both Ark and 7 Days to Die. Three reasons we branched off into Ark: (1) whenever 7 Days to Die received a massive update, it tended to break for 2-3 weeks, (2) 7DtD got boring during the long times between patches, & (3) because saves tended to be broken when new updates occurred, if we were close to an announced patch, we didn't feel like wasting time on something that would be lost in a month. So, we turned to other survival games. During one of those times, Ark had a sale.
5:19 Holy shit that Strongbad reference killed me!
2:01 "...Second, that Free-To-Play really isn't that dominant on Steam. Only 3 of the top 10 are F2P."
Hang on... TF2, Unturned, Warframe, Paladins are all in the top 10. *_That's 4 Free-To-Play games._*
Include Dota 2, which would undoubtedly on this list if it had achievements, and that's half the entire list.
I mean, even if you don't count Dota 2, 4/10 is still a substantial amount, considering the variety of games on the market.
...Either way, you're wrong; there's at least 4, not 3, so I'm right, therefore I get to feel superior for correcting some random internet video, end of story.
I didn't count TF2 as free because a _lot_ of those numbers come from before it was F2P. Originally that caveat was in the video but it just dragged down the pacing too much. Awesome catch though! I totally agree f2p is significant, it's just not 'dominant', which 3-4 years ago everyone was saying it was going to be.
-JP
Extra Credits Fair enough. I've suggested adding an annotation to deter future nitpickers like me, but since CZcams has deemed itself unworthy of such things... I guess... idk, leaving a pin would feel too extreme... Whatever. Your point was made here; 'nuff said.
No need to pin... the dominant vs significant thing was pretty clear in the video.
As a rule of thumb, you don’t make changes thinking on nitpickers.
Great video. Would love a version discussing some data on indie games
Steam is a very easy app to find games
well theres around 30 games being added every game on steam sooo...
Grant Mitchell There's 30 games for every game? That's impressive! ;P
gLItcHyGeAR I assume it is autocorrect from second to game.
omg how did I not catch that lol
Alright, you got me at the end there.
The data is available via SteamSpy.com and other APIs constantly, there is no date limit on the CCU data (concurrent users) or the overall data
My fave games are: Hoi4 War Thunder And Civ 5 NOT Civ 6 Housing is just bad
Edit: My Fave Civs are
Russia Germany And Zulus
True Civ 6 didn’t really bring much that is worthwhile to the table. It also broke Civ’s trend of good DLC by having one of the worst reviewed DLC on steam.
I’m calling it now. #11 is obviously Skyrim
well played
Hax
7:03 Well great, now I only have to find a way to do so.
As an avid survival game player I can see the trend you talk about. I mainly play Ark but I’ve also put respectable time into Rust, Conan Exiles and Citadel: Forged with Fire. I’ve also played many others but not for very long. This is the same for my core friend group, we all play together.
6:43 Weird goat physics trample silly but significant moral dilemmas... It´s a scary world we live in.
I guess the goat industry is bigger than the significant moral dilemma industry
Take a look at the channels of the big CZcams LPers (PewDiePie, Markiplier, GTLive, Jacksepticeye), I think that might help. Goat Simulator is funny, and designed to be so. It's meant to be hilarious, over-the-top, and stupid, lowest-common-denominator fun. Undertale is a great RPG with a truly unique approach with its 'Pacifist Run' idea, but again, Lowest Common Denominator...the people Lindsay Ellis would call 'Joanne and Cletus'. Which game do you think they'd be more interested in?
Curt Clark but all those youtubers also played undertale. I don't think it is a matter of popularity
I own both, but TBH as soon as I saw goat simulator I just had to buy it, it was too stupid not to. That being said I barely played it for an hour, it's not a great game but it's flashy, people played for a few hours then left en mass is my guess.
Well, a game about moral dilemmas sounds like its sober and bit emotional, which is no everybody's cup of tea, while a game about doing silly stuff with a goat in a sandbox sounds relaxing and a kinda fun. (and remember that garry's mod, another sandbox, is on the top 11)
More norse mythology
ohthreefiftyone I've seen better
I'm curious as to the numbers for portal and portal 2
I had totally forgotten about that eyes in Super Mario