Simagic Alpha Ultimate vs Simucube 2 Pro-which is better
Vložit
- čas přidán 19. 11. 2022
- The Simagic Alpha Ultimate is beautiful surprise and is here to fight the king of the Direct Drive Wheelbases for years Sumucube 2. For now I can compare those two wheels in iRacing, Assetto Corsa Competizione and Automobilista 2 and the other titles like AC, rFactor, Race Room, Dirt Rally etc must be tested in the upcoming weeks but I believe the results will be the same.
If those here are out of your budget, you can check the Moza R5 and Moza R9 videos and soon I will start testing the 15nm Camus wheelbase which is the most budget base with lots of power ! - Hry
![Eminem - Houdini [Official Music Video]](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/22tVWwmTie8/mqdefault.jpg)
Steliyan I got an alpha U and used your settings from the video you made. I loved your settings but the simagic software has changed so much. I noticed in your latest video of your rig breakdown you still use the alpha U. I would love an updated settings video of what you are using now. Even if it’s just 1 min showing your current settings I’m sure myself and many others would greatly appreciate your expertise!
can you share the settings? kind regards Lukas
He did update them in a video a week ago go watch it.
@@reviewforthetube6485 thanks for the heads up. I watched it the day it came out lol.
@@alecmillea4539can you please tell me what is the name of the setting video you watched ::: i cant find it ❤
Awesome comparison, really looking forward to my Alpha showing up. Thanks for actually comparing the relevant wheel bases, I had a hard time finding reviewers who were willing to directly compare the top tier DD bases. Subbed
Great to see a video! Love your option on sim racing and I think I speak for many that we take your views, passion and love for sim racing to the max! Inspiring for us all! I love my SC2Pro, possibly the best purchase I’ve made in my life :)
Thx for the kind words buddy 🤗
Thank you for this great video, once more! 😊 your cockpit never fails to impress me! 👌 have a great week, Chepi! 👋
Big hug brother 🤗
Have a wonderful weekend too my friend 🤛
Great video as always Steli! Thanks for your honest feedback. Such a beautiful time to be a simracer with all the great option that are out there.
Absolutely bro ❤️
We are living in exiting times !
Big hug brother and hope you are doing well mate in the desert 🤗
@@chepilevskido you happen to know the settings you ran on your alpha U for iracing in both the Simagic manager and in iracing? Thanks 😊
finally sunday evening, finally a new video. man i love your work. keep up, you are inspiring af!
🤗 big hug brother 🍻
I always learn something new with everything you say 👍 I’m gonna experiment again with some Force Feedback settings with the lesson from this vid 🏁
I hope you will find something you like bro 😃
Good review as always... I currently own the simu-cube 2 Pro.. Love the wheel base.. Had the simagic Alpha Ultimate was around prior.. I would have defiantly acquired it.. The price point is awesome.. Please keep the reviews going...👃
Simucube is art of Simracing man 💪
I really want to stick with the Alpha Ultimate and see how will evolve!
I've been waiting for this review!!! Great!
Great video as always! Are your ffb settings for sc2 on true drive? I'd love to try your settings for ACC. Can't wait to see your opinion on the Asetek Invicta.
I have been considering switching from Fanatec to Simagic and this is exactly the review I needed 👍
same here , time to upgrade from my 11 years old CS v2.5 :)
Heh same story here. I am looking forward to this @@mohzoheir
I'm going from a CSL elite to a Simagic alpha ultimate plus the haptics for the pedals. I wish you guys good luck and hope you can achieve your racing dreams
I made the jump a couple minutes ago. Best decision I’ve made on my rig. Get at least the Alpha, but I love my Simagic base and FX Pro wheel. A lot more than my GT DD pro.
Just purchased an alpha mini. Will be my first DD. Also got some of their pedals too, excited and anxious for setup and learning about them 🤙
what pedal and wheel did u get? I also want to get the mini as my first dd!
@@Kenny-uo9yt3 pedal simagic p2000 100kg and I went for a personal wheel
@@Uathankicks Nice! I'll get the GT1 wheel, but that FX PRO just looks amazing and very tempting. Enjoy your new rig btw!
Точно това видео търсех и чаках някой да направи.
Благодая за инфото.
Страхотно ревю.👍
Mersi Lubka 🍻
Another great video. I'm invested in this ecosystem and really happy with the gear. The pedals are amazing and my trusty M10 does the job. I would love to snag the Sequential shifter and Tire Breaker Handbrake but I literally just bought the Aiologs ones back in Feb. Can't wait to see the H-Pattern shifter they are working on.
Man , that shifter looks awesome and I hope will be as good as it looks 😃
@@chepilevski yeah me too! Do you have their handbrake? The TB-1?
@@elbowsout6301 yes buddy I do !
I will do review of it at some point!
Hello Mr. Legend, I just upgraded from the mini to the ultimate and I couldn't be happier!!!! It's not about the extra power, it's the extra road texture, bumps, and feeling the edge of the grip without clipping and losing the force feedback as you said!!! Cheers bro and thanks for the awesome video and advice Cheers again 🍻
Happy to hear you love the upgrade brother 😃
Thanks bro, if you can do me a favor please share your in-game settings and simpro settings for iracing as I'm struggling to set it up properly 🙏🙏
Is it worth to upgrade from Alpha Mini to Ultimate?
Man! The way you went around the twisty section at mount panorama at 9:20! Such beautiful control and balance on the limit in such a technical piece of circuit. Unbelievable. I can’t wait for the day I have practiced enough to be that good if I ever get there hahahaha.
Also great comparison as always! I’ll be purchasing one as soon as the wife allows hahahaha.
Thx for the kind words Alec 🍻
Hope your wife make her husband happy soon 😁
Have a great evening mate 🤛
@@chepilevski you too mate, have a great night!
As new owner of the alpha ultimate, i am very happy to hear your review ... totaly agree with you 👍
Happy to see you enjoy it Dave 🤛
Mine is on the way. Currently running an accuforce v2 and hopefully it feels better. Only thing I will probably miss is the simxperience software. It is great for really dialing in the wheel to feel how you want.
@@Jpilgrim30 I love to hear your thoughts on the switch from Accuforce V2 to Alpha Ultimate. Pro and Cons !
I like your style of reviews getting to the real world performance factors & experience of the wheel bases instead of just the specs on paper. You've covered a lot of high end bases so far which has been great to get a sense of where they all stand against each other. I've been wondering, are you also planning to review and compare the VRS Direct Force Pro to your Simucube bases in the future?
That is one base I really want to check out ! The price is awesome and having experience with those motors I really want to check how those encoders perform and there software 😃
That would be awesome! I was between the Simmagic and VRS offerings and went with an Alpha but I'm still curious how to the VRS holds up. I've seen other comparisons but not with the new FW and SW from Simmagic. I wasn't impressed with the VRS software, it swayed me towards the Alpha
Great review. I have the Alpha Ultimate but have never tried maxing out or using high interpolation. I’ll have to try it out. Thanks.
Where did you buy it? Delivery end of December?
@@SimPanseTV I got mine through US Sim Motion back in October.
Looks like some hard choices to make in 2023. Took a big swing at pedals in 2022. Now it’s time for a new wheel base. Lots to think about in 2023.
Yeh man , before was easy to choose with 2 brands and now is getting crazy with all those great choices
Hey pal, before I start I wanted to say that I really really enjoy your videos, you seems like a very humble and nice person, and your production quality is a top noch level. I got recently into the Sim world and I started with Thrustmaster T300rs and Next Level F-GT cockpit (no lite) and It has been amazing but i started to upgrade and I started with the pedals, I went for the simforge mark-1 and they are insanely good. Then i started looking for a new wheel and it has been incredibly difficult to decide what to go for as there are many options and they all sound great, some of them are out of stock (Fanatec). Anyway this video helped me decide what I want to go for and I know everyone would still vote for the Simucube as it is more proven, but I felt like I really like the Simagic eco system and their style, and so I just bought the alpha-U. I am still waiting to be delivered and I hope i made a good choice, but looking at your comparison it is minimal between the U and the Pro. I am looking to upgrade my cockpit but I cannot decide and I was hoping if you could give me your opinion on few brands, sorry to message you here but I wasnt sure how else to contact you.
I am looking at Trak Racer TR120 or GT-Omega Prime RS9 . I would really appreciate your respond as you are a genuine person and I love to hear your thoughts.
Keep up with the great content.
Hi Sam and tanks for the kind words buddy ❤️
You will love the Simagic U and there ecosystem become my favorite lately for the prices and they are improving constantly! Top quality products and materials!
For the rig I would suggest you to choose aluminum frame based rig no matter which one as there are many which offer more or less the same thing ! Them pros of the aluminum rigs are you can constantly add different frames later and they are cheap and can be found everywhere!
Rigs like the Omega are hard for upgrade as you have god the bug of Simracing and you are going strong as I’ve see from your upgrades, you will definitely improve something later and will be much easier with aluminum frames rig !
Have a great weekend Dam 🍻
@@chepilevski Thank you for your response as always you are great! I need one more advise as a pro racer you can help me :). I just installed my Alpha U (looks stunning) and I will be driving mostly GT3 cars. I see there are settings within the Simagic app like Dynamic Damper or Mechanical Damper, Mechanical Spring ,Mechanical Friction and Vehicle Suspension, do I need any of those on or shall I switch them completely off? What is your recommendation :)?
Sorry to bother you again !
About your comment above, GT Omega Prime is aluminium too ! :)
Really looking forward to your review on ASETEK's new wheelbases.
I hope to have a chance to test that !
Just purchased this bad boy! I can't wait till it arrives! Selling my alpha mini and I'm sure the difference is substantial! Just hope my 80/20 rig can handle the power. Great review as always, makes my buyers remorse a little easier to deal with lol.
Well, we are for very limited time here and if we can experience the things we want then we are obliged 😁
@@chepilevski well said!
updates bro?
My bad I thought you were the OP lol. But yes it's great!
@@chadharris6625 no worries. That's exactly what I want to get. Wish a sparco wheel went on their easily, but I think I'll get the package with the GT rim.
What pedal set did you go with?
Excellent comparative review! Just awesome what has happened in the last 12 month on the sim racing market on the tech side!
Thank you for analysing, assessing and presenting all of this in such a professional and authentic way!
--
On another note: Are the pads on your Sabelt GT pad size XL? Just got mine with M size pads - a bit too tight for a sim rig application for my feeling. We have a comparable statue (180 cm, narrow at the waist, 75 kg?), I guess, so thank you if you could be so kind to quickly reply, if XL works for you comfortably.
Thx for the kind words buddy 🤛
I’m 180cm 82kg right now and I use the medium pad size !
I even put some extra cushions on my lower back to cover the space there and little on the back as my back hurts on stiff brake settings above 70kg of pressure!
@@chepilevski Thank you very much! Highly appreciated!
The simagic ultimate is equal to the best period. It may even be slightly better then simucube. Listen simucube is fantastic but there is a feel now with simagic, asetek and even the new dd and dd+ from fanatec you can almost feel its just different. So so good now. But the next simucube is probably going to crush everything.
Sometimes I think is not possible to get any better but we get surprised all the time 😁
Dude the ultimate has blown my mind!! I just got the fx pro delivered yesteday and omg its the perfect combination. I used it for 5 hours straight last night and i know people say things cant make you faster. But this wheel helps me! Thr location of thr qr being lower allows the wheels weight to be at the top. So when turning in that extra weight helps with turn in so it doesnt feel heavy like other heavier wheels. Its so quick but something about its design helos me control everything even better. I made 2 of my fastest laps yesterday with the 720s no way thats a coincedence lol. Like i finslly hit a 1:23:1 at brands hatch and I hit a 1:46 at monza. Yes i know not a 1:22 but for me im happy to be even close to d1 times. @@chepilevski
Just before yesterday i was a d3 driver how am I that much faster now? this setup just fits me @@chepilevski
Allways a great video.
Can you share your settings for rFactor2?... or better yet... Why you don't so a vídeo with your favorite SC2 settings on each simulator?
Cheers mate.
Keep up the good work.
Awesone video and review, like always! Ive been thinking off pulling the trigger and upgrading to a dd from my fanatec v2.5 but just bought a hp reverb g2 on sale so guess im gonna have to wait for a bit. Do you have any advice on good settings for the v2.5? Im aware it isnt a dd and no where close to that even but im sure i could probably get some better results and performance out of it.
Hey Rob, I don’t have this base to test what can I take from it buddy 😞
I use it for long time before but I have totally forgot the settings .
I really wait your take on the asetek direct drives!
I hope to test that soon!
Hey Steliyan
Really great video! I switched from Fanatec DD1 to Simagic Alpha U because of this video.
Is it possible to transfer your settings for AC, ACC and Iracing somewhere? Since I'm also involved in real racing, I'm sure we have the same requirements for force feedback. I would be happy to try out your settings :-). Kind regards Lukas
what is your headset? The microphone audio, looks amazing!
Did you by any chance take a screenshot of your settings for the simagic pc app and how you tuned for the lowest force latency? I'd like to replicate that on mine. Thanks!
Hello, thank you for this video. Again good work on your part.
But I still don't know which one to buy, I'm hesitating between these two bases... 🥴
hey bro would be nice if u share your settings of alpha u especially for iracing! thx and congratz for your videos.
Great video! I m considering to buy the alpha ultimate, i have seen other comparasions with sc2 and some people say that there is a lack of road texture feeling with the alpha ultimate . What do you think about? Thans in advance mate.
That can happen if smoothies filter is too high buddy!
In similar settings they feel the same in road texture feeling!
It is always about settings !
Hey man. Greetings from Greece... Great vid as always. Can you provide some settings that you use for ACC?
Great video! I bought the alpha ultime and the fx-pro 2 days ago, is that possible to found your simpro manager's settings for iracing and rfactor2 somewhere?
Hey buddy, here are the settings I personally prefer but I suggest to test as much you can and see what exactly you personally prefer!
Power 100
Speed 100
Interpolation 100
Damping 0
Friction 12
Smoothness for iRacing 1 and for rFactor you will probably need to go up to 4-5
@@chepilevski thank you so much =)
Great comparison!
Can you share your opinion on the Simagic GTC wheel that is seen in this video?
I'm considering buying it during black week deals and I value your opinion :)
I have made video about it buddy.
I personally love it and not many wheels can go close to it with all those features and buttons 😃
Here is a link to that video
czcams.com/video/JnonsZjKVWA/video.html
@@chepilevski Thank you for info, have a great day :)
Thank you for this review! I used Alpha mini for 2 months and I loved it so I sold it and bought the Ultimate. Alpha mini was great but this things is blowing my mind, I absolutely love it! I was the best choice I made! I mainly play IRacing and I would love to see your ffb settings to see how much different from mine :)
Currently I use smoothness around 4-5 and Interpolation 2, Suspension around 7-8. Maybe I should try what you mentioned, lower smoothness and higher interpolation! Thanks again the review. Simagic is a great brand and it beats everything I tried earlier! I wish there would be more reviews of the Ultimate :)
I will be interested to hear how you feel with those settings buddy and thx for sharing your experience with the Base 🍻
@@chepilevski I just tried some modifications on the settings based on you suggestions and maaan it's unbelivable. IRacing ffb was always so dull for me compared to other games but this setting increased those small details I was missing so much. I feel the road structures, kurbs, bumbs so much better! I absolutely love it. I tried to increase the Interpolation level before but didn't decrease the smoothness so it didn't feel different, but now it totally makes sense to decrease smoothness if I increase Interpolation. I ended up at Interpolation 9, Smoothness 2-3 depends on the car and track, 20% friction, and 5-7% dampers. Thank you very much for the suggestions! I just started sim racing a year ago but I really love this community :)
@@balazsvakulya3202 that’s awesome to hear bro and the community is awesome indeed ❤️
How much did you get for the mini? Trying to sell mine this week
@@chadharris6625 Around 920 euro with a GTC wheel. The new price was around 1049 eruo. It was used for a month so practically new.
Hiho, another great Video and thanks for create my wish to upgrade the Mini to a Ulti :).
Just tried your settings on the Mini - its great. I only need a little Friction otherwise I feel so "loose" at Center.
Allow me to aks a question: You are using Ilyama curved (1500R) 32" -> is this correct? Any problems with distortion from image?
Hi Thomas
I have zero distortion buddy from the iiayma!
@@chepilevski only out of your eyes :) :) - just kidding. Go for it and do you great stuff - I love it!
Thank you for answer!
Did you upgrade? If so, what's your feedback on the difference?
Thanks for your honest and technical review, great video as always. If you do not mind, I would like to get your sc2 settings for acc ? (aston v8).
I use friction and damping at 7% and reconstruction 5
Ultra low latency 16%
@@chepilevski Thanks my friend.
Expecting my Alpha U to come in the mail any day! Your video helped me pull the trigger. After a few months of using it, would you mind sharing what FFB settings you using today? I usually run ACC but any starting point would be helpful!
Hey mate how's the alpha U going I'm looking at getting one myself and wanted to know what thoughts you have for it now cheers
@@rumontap5052 I have one on the way. Should be here tomorrow or Tuesday. I’m coming from an accuforce v2 so the bar is already set decently high. I’ll try to remember to come back and give an update in a few days time.
@@Jpilgrim30 awesome cheers mate I'm coming from a fanatec dd2 so really interested to hear what you say
@@Jpilgrim30 how much better is it than the v2
How's your experience this far? It has arrived by now, yeah? I ordered one too. Just yesterday
Are you still loving the Simagic Alpha U? Did you ever do a full review on it?
I thought about going Alpha Mini but ended up getting a full Moza setup I do far don't regret the decision it's been a full month of daily use and it still works as it did on day one and I'm talking 5-7 hours a day after work tons of nurbergring laps in assetto corsa
Moza re doing amazing job man ! I used lots of there gear for extensive time and they worked just perfectly 💪
Awesome video man as always. It would be amazing if you could share your settings for this base? I’m getting the Mini soon and I’m sure they would transfer over.
It would also be really good if you could do a video covering the method you use to set your ffb in iRacing. I’ve been doing some reading and the two different methods (one being using auto) are confusing 😣 Thanks again.
I got my alpha mini 2 months ago and was very frustrated trying to setup the FFB in iracing. After so much messing around I settled on the following. Smooth lvl 2, Wheel return speed 100, Vehicle suspension 4, Mechanical damper 10, Interpolation 3. everything else at 0. In the advanced settings I left everything at default. Hope it saves you weeks of messing around as I had to do.
Thx for the kind words buddy !
IRacing have very clean signal and you can stay around 1 on the smoothness filter maximum 2 !
I use also 10% friction
And max out the soeed filter and the Internet level! The rest is off !
The auto correct is simple as you just have to do some laps and the software will pick value to keep the FFB clean without clipping!
I must do video about that indeed!
@@FOGDaheee thanks for that! I’ll give these a go. I’m coming from a t300 so I’m not really sure what to look for or what to expect to tbh. Do you use auto for each car in iRacing or set and forget? What settings do you use for max force in iRacing and in the wheel driver?
@@chepilevski Awesome, thanks so much for that. Will definitely give these settings a go. Interpolation mad as well I think you said in another comment? FFB in iRacing is very confusing. From what I understand there are 2 different ways you can go about it - set and forget and use auto for each car. One is more realistic and keeps each car relative to each other. Gets more confusing after that in terms of the formulas used to calculate max force etc!
@@rover1374 the auto with the more powerful bases gives way too much picks I personally prefer!
Danke für das Review
Hey legend how are you? Do you still use the alpha U? Do you still feel that the difference is minimal between both bases on the long term use as I was thinking about moving from the alpha U to SC2 pro for the sake of that extra ffb quality. Great video as usual keep it up man cheers 🍻
Hey buddy, all great here and hope you’re doing well too🤛
I personally don’t think you will find extra quality from FFB point of view! To me they feel the same !
Great to hear that buddy!! Thanks again man and have a great time racing 👍🤗🍻
Did anyone switched from Simagic Ultimate to SimuCube 2 pro, or vice-versa?
I'm using the Alpha Mini, thinking about upgrading.
What about noise / heat, on Ultimate / SC 2 Pro?
Which one would you recommend, guys?
At 9:22, I can't tell where your cockpit ends and the screen begins. It's amazing! How did you manage this? Great review, well done.
Hey, thanks for the kind words Billy 🤛
I’m going to rebuild my entire rig and explain every little sep😃
@@chepilevski that would be a very interesting video. Thank-you.
Hiii! Very good video
What do you think is better, alpha or simucube 1 augury 30nm ?
I'm a bit confused and I don't know what would be better to buy.
I haven’t tested that specific Motor from Simucube Aday!
It will be much more powerful for sure but I believe you would not use the power from both of those bases at all !
The Alpha U is really smooth but so must be the Augury ! You must mostly think about the ecosystem what you can attach to them as a wheel and decide which way to go !
The experience I imagine will be very close !
Thank you soo much
I think everyone has been waiting for this. I'm going to be in the market for a Simucube 2 Pro and I was keeping my eye on this because of the wheels they've been releasing and the QR system. I don't know which one to go for now...
im in the same boat, and speak with people in forum of simagic, everyone told me...go for simucube, more mature and better ffb, so that´s a yes for simucube.
Simucube is absolute and no one can ever go wrong with it !
The Alpha U is really really good and I want to keep it on my rig for at least a year and follow the evolution of this ecosystem!
@@chepilevski Thanks - needed to hear that. Looks like I won't be swayed from my decision. 👍🏾
@@izhangt3787 Cheers, that's another thumbs up to confirm my original thoughts.
@@izhangt3787 how many of those people on the forum are using the ultimate and not a regular alpha or mini? That extra torque of the ultimate makes a big difference as far as bringing out details in the force feedback.
Looks very interesting,, please keep us updated with everything you can,, I’m still in the Fanatec system myself,, as a casual racer I probably won’t go much higher in spec before I get my rig sorted,, be one to watch for the future,,what are prices going to be like!,, any idea,, 😃
,, ,, ,, ,, ,,
great review as usual. Could you also test the Conspit cpp pedals for us? Thanks
I hope to have the chance buddy 🤛
great video
Hello!
Thanks for your review. I have been looking for an upgrade from my Moza R9. And I want to get a Simagic alpha U. Is it a good choice?
Yes buddy, the Simagic Alfa U is the base I drove the last few months daily and I loved it !
@@chepilevski Hi, only the Alpha and Alpha U are available locally. Is it worth over the Mini, or the U more more worth it (for price/performance)? Coming from an R9.
You have the most awesome setup man. I’m wondering what screens you are using. Size and specs. Thanks for the beautiful videos.
Thx for the kind words buddy 🍻
Those are 32 inch iiayma!
@@chepilevski Thank you
Could you share your DD setup with us? The trickiest part is actually setting up the wheel with the app! It would be greatly appreciated! It was actually you who convinced me to purchase the Simagic Alpha Ultimate. Thanks for the video! Very helpful!
I found I play the most with the interpolation filter buddy!
Smoothness is between 0 to 3 and then I pull up the interpolation to 6-9 and make it smoother!
I personally don’t add any friction and damping or at least keep those low maximum 10%
Test dose suggestions and find what feels sweet to you 🤛
Speed is also always at 100%
I really appreciate bud! Gonna try this soon!
I have some csl elite v2 pedals coming now I need a DD. I have no idea what to get. I'm leaning towards the Moza R9, but I'm wondering if I should stick to Fanatec... those of course are more expensive. Suggestions?
Благодаря за сравнението. Между MOZA и Simagic, кой софтуер ти допада повече?
Chestno kazano nqmam predpochitaniq kam softwarite mejdu dvete companii! Simagic e oshte Beta versiq I rabotqt postoqnno no az lichno ne sam imal problemi no sam vijdal comentari s oplakvaniq bez obqsnenie zashto I it kade sa problemite!
Hi my friend congrats for your great professional quality videos. I'm about to buy my first direct drive. Which do you recommend Alpha Ultimate or Simcube 2 sport? a thousand thanks
Thanks for the kind words buddy 🤛
That will be really hard choice to make even for myself as the SC 2 Sport is not far from the Pro and in most cases is absolutely the same ! Simucube have been my favorite bases for many years and from feeling point of view the Simagic Ultimate close the gap totally!
You really have to think if you like the Simagic ecosystem as that grows enormously with some very great and affordable wheels , shifters , pedals and I’m happy with every product I ever tested from them !
Simucube are proven brand and you will never go wrong with that choice but finding good wheel for reasonable price is hard 🙈
You have to ask yourself which way you want to go and from my personal experience till now you will be absolutely happy with both choices just one will be bit more cheaper!
@@chepilevskiThanks for your quick reply, can I contact you privately?
@@leonhardware alpha u + fx pro is awesome
I‘ve switched from a fanatec dd pro to a sc 2 pro and its insane how perfect the simcube works! In my opinion is simcube the real deal!
Simucube 2 is the level everyone must try to achieve!
love watching your videos. when are you planning to fix the typo on the intro?
Hahah
I was thinking to keep it like this for fun 😁
Thx for the kind words buddy 🤛
@@chepilevski your videos have inspired me so much for immersion, although i am new to simracing and racing in general. In fact I am building a rig, similar to yours. bought 2 simracing4u button boxes, have two stream decks, a tablet, a dash, racelogic and lumirank with 49" curved monitor (no space for triples). all thanks to you. please keep on doing what you are doing. your contributions to simracing are priceless.
@@hakanuzunoglu you will have so much fun building that environment buddy 😃
I’m excited for you 💪
Hi dear, I always remain with open mouth like a 5 years old kid in front of TV when watching your videos, you are a great youtuber and a sodedicated simracing driver with a huge attention to details. After this video, I would like to give Simagic a chance, I am coming from a logitech wheel and I was wondering if you could share your wheelbase settings maybe with a screenshot. (?) Thank you in advance.
its been few months since the video came out, have you changed back to simucube as main or still on simagic? (currently cant decide which wheelbase to buy :D )
I’m still on Simagic and haven’t changed to SC2 but that’s because of testing purposes as I wanted to see how it works with the time!
SC2 is already proven and no one can go wrong with it !
I’m still very happy with the Simagic U and never had single issue for those months or missed anything from the SC2
In the next months I will switch to Moza DD and start testing hard to see if those will create any problems!
My personal view is , those high torque bases are very very close to each other!
@@chepilevski very interesting , thanks for fast and very detailed response. what about slew rate? its very different in terms of numbers.
also any plans on testing asetek?
@@AlbertsR133 I’m open to test anything I can but I never ask any companies for there products!
Those slow Rate things are super overrated in my opinion and honestly it depends what cars and wheel size I’m using but at the end of the day, I found the differences are so negligible that in 30 min drive I totally forget what base I use !
There are differences in settings but all can be made to feel very close in feeling!
Is it okay to buy simagic alpha mini if i have srp moza oedal now? Or better use moza r9 cause same eco system. But I'm leaning toward the simagic alphamini base
I have been using a DD1 for the last couple of years and I am now thinking about going to either the SC2 pro or the Simagic Ultimate. Now that you had the unit for a bit more time what would you choose? The Simagic appears to be cheaper (especially the wheels) but I am worried about long term after sales support.
Hey buddy, the support is good as long as you take it from official reseller as Simagic fully support those products!
I found myself using more and more the Simagic Ultimate for iRacing as I found settings that suited me better for that title!
That being said , Simucube is the benchmark for DD bases and you can’t ever go wrong with it !
For Simagic is too early to say for how long will they last and a year from now I will have full option about that and Simucube are proven to be rock solid as they are out for already 4 years !
It is hard choice 🙈
@@chepilevski Thank you so much for your reply. I decided to go for the more established option: Simucube 2 Pro and a Takho GT21 wheel. Now I need to decide on what pedals to upgrade from my Fanatec V3s.
If you had the Fanatec Podium DD2 and could get JUST one wheel for it, what would you get?
Great video! I've got the alpha and I don't need more torque, but I'm wondering if I will get more detail from the alpha U.
For example, if I run the alpha at 80% and the alpha U at 50% (both 12nm), will they feel similar or will the U feel more detailed?
Mostly they will bring the same information in those settings and if there are some differences will be very minor man !
amazing, thank you so much for your quick reply! You have one of the best channels for sim racing. Thanks for what you do for this community!
@@iancharleycharles1486 thanks for the kind words man 🍻
Just an update if you're interested - I got the alpha U. It is a minor update but worth it in my opinion. I notice it most in the turns, where instead of the wheel just feeling heavy in high speed turns, it feels have with more detail.
In case you were wondering!
Great video! Would have loved to see your alpha settings though. Just as a reference.
I end up with
100% power
10% friction
Interpolation-Max
Smoothness 1 for iRacing and 5 for the other sims
The rest is down to zero
@@chepilevski Thank you - keep up the amazing work. Loved your seating position video. Helped me with my knee pain.
@@Lukewk1 that’s awesome bro 😃
Top video👌
When did you switch back to the Simucube 2 Pro if you indeed did go back to it. Also have you tried the VRS DD wheelbase ?
Hi Chris 🤛
My plan is to use the Simagic Alpha U for as long as I can in the next year and try to find if there are weak points!
I want to try VRS and I have tried it at other simulators but I can’t give full opinion as I haven’t fully tweaked it to see what can do in the settings!
I personally believe anyway ,the VRS must be as good as the Simucube2 as it has really good encoder !
@@chepilevski nice one. 👌 I'll post my setup once done, do you have a Discord community?
I LOVE YOU!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!... and your videos, of course!
Big hug brother 😁
I would like you to review the DD1 with the new 447 firmware. I heard that Fanatec completly changed the feeling with the new software and closed the gap with the simcubes 2.
I don’t have that base but I want to borrow the small dd from Fanatec and see how have evolved the last months with the latest firmware!
@@chepilevski Yes, shoud be at least a more or less feeling with the small DD to have a similar idea of what they have change on the DD1 and DD2 too.
@@chepilevski the CSL DD didn’t respond to the new Firmware the same way the DD1 and DD2 did because the firmware changes were directed towards the bigger bases
I just sold my dd1 and switched to the alpha u. The 447 update was a game changer for the dd1 and dramatically improved the ffb feel. However, it still falls well short of the alpha u.
@@gulfcoaster210 that’s awesome to hear! My alpha u should be here tomorrow!
Great video as always!
I am selling my current setup and upgrading to Simagic. After all is sold, the upgrade for the Simagic Alpha + GT Neo should cost arround 400€, and the upgrade to a Simagic Alpha U + GT Neo would be arround 650€. Would you say the Ultimate is worth the 60% price increase or would the Alpha do the job just as well but with a bit less torque? Considering i maxed out my current 10nm base, would you say 15nm plenty?
Best regards,
João.
Thx buddy 🤛
I haven’t tested the 15nm Alpha but Will from BoostedMedia said they give the same FFB details and I trust him.
However, if 15nm is enough is only up to you but if I talk about me personally, I use some new sew settings in which I keep the Alpha U at 50% strength from the Simagic software and then push the feedback strength higher in the sim which for some reason boost the small effect and make the base bit more alive when the feedback is close to clipping.
I really use more than 12nm for everyday driving as anything above that puts me in fight with the wheel.
I believe 15nm is very good amount of force at least for me!
Good video as always 🙂 Can you share some ffb settings ? I just purchase the alpha u, its my first Direct Drive ! Thank you very much 💪
Try max power
Speed at max
Smoothness 1 for iRacing and 5 for ACC ,AC and AMS2
Friction 10
Interpolation level max
The rest is off for me !
That’s what I personally prefer buddy but try as many suggestions you will find and see what you will like the most for yourself
@@chepilevski Thank you very much for helping 💪💪
Can you please make a video about the wheel base tuning and share more details about your thoughts and how you tune it
I will try to make soon one buddy🤛
@@chepilevski thank you for considering it!!!
I hope you get the chance to try the Asetek stuff. Would like to ear what you have to say about them.
I hope so too buddy .
Does the Simedal X-GT wheel now works wireless on SC 2 PRO ? I saw info about compatibility on a simracing website that sells the wheel and Simucube was written there (without coiled cable so wireless)
Can’t find more info on Simedal website… is there a way to make Simedal X-GT wheel wireless for Simucube 2 PRO…?
I’m not sure buddy, I haven’t tested that
Bit of an off-topic question, but is Automobilista 2 worth having? I'm just looking an alternative to ACC for amusement, plus it's on offer from Steam!
Oh buddy, that is something only you can answer yourself!
I like it to have fun and have some different experiences from time to time and wen I’m in the correct mood I can really enjoy it but you may hate it 😁
As simracer , you have to experience it yourself and decide and if You waste few bucks at least you will know for sure!
But if you love it , you can have endless hours of fun 😃
It is always risk but at least at small cost 🤛
@@chepilevski Thanks brother. I would never want to put you on the spot to recommend anything because I know that's not your scene. However, I have my answer (my choice based on the available data 😉) Thanks.
@@chuckwagon7354 well said brother 🍻
great review again. Now i have to sell my alpha to buy the U.
Do you think it would worth that change buddy? I haven’t tested the Alpha but for me 15nm have been enough in all cases except if I don’t really want to go super high torque for some fun 😁
I’m just saying to think about it if worth 🤛
@@chrispapa6700 that’s true
I love my Simagic Alpha mini using the alpha Manager software, I just tried playing with interpolation and turning down other effects to 0% - 5% and it feels even better haha. but right now I need to bring up A big problem with the new software (Alpha Pro). I cannot update my wheel and hub and quite a few people seem to be having the same problems. Alpha Pro is still in beta so hopefully they can get it stable soon
I find the Simagic tech support to be pretty great if you email them they will likely help you with it. I just upgraded the firmware on my M10 to be able to use the new wheels and new software. It took first try but then told me twice more it wasn't updated so I let it do it again and now I don't get that message any longer.
I guess it will take some time to get this to the finish but the last 4 weeks I got 3 updates and looks like they are working on this all the time!
I guess I’m lucky with the updates as every time works for me for each device I have here !
I will stay in that ecosystem and see how will evolve!
@@elbowsout6301 Thanks, I'm going to play around with Alpha pro again and see if I missed something. I'm on the discord so will look over the messages for similar problems. I understand the difficulty from simagic's point of view having the older wheels like the GT1/Gt4 wheels and M10 being compatible with the brand new lineup working together on a single piece of software.
@@chepilevski I'm glad you have dedicated yourself to the ecosystem. I'm defiantly a simagic fanboy haha. The competition is tight now with so many options so having hassle free software is more important than ever.
I'm worried about the Fanatec release of the QR2, if each rim needs a $150+ new QR2 and the shaft for my DD2 being replaced must be at least $200+, I'm very tempted to swap over to the SC2 Pro.
Do you think it's worth losing quite a bit of money to make the switch from Fanatec to Simucube? My main worry originally was how expensive the rims are vs Fanatec, I mainly use the F1 rim 95% of the time.
For me personally worth the switch to SC2 and I have read mostly positive comments from people who make that transition from Fanatec to SC but there were also people who didn’t felt huge difference , so that will be answered only from you personally and your own expectations buddy!
That being said, you can concentrate your Fanatec formula wheel for Simucube with the kit from Simracing Machine but you will lose the dual shifter and can use the those two pedals only as separate inputs as throttle or clutch or buttons but not as dual clutch system!
It will be up to you to risk and see if worth the switch mate !
@Race Beyond Matter thanks! I'll wait for the QR2 release and if it's insanely priced I'll swap over. For me Fanatec is great for my skill level but they don't have anything higher priced that I can save and aspire to you know?
The BMW and Bentley rims coming are cool but with Simucube and others I can aspire to eventually getting a GSI, Cube Controls, etc and no way am I buying those rims for Fanatec and paying a $200+ "tax" for a Podium Hub so that I can use it on Fanatec gear. There's no podium level and up pedals, the V3s are already the best they have, etc.
Thanks for the reply and love the videos!
Great video. Can you tellme what is the music of the video? Love it at 8:46. Thanks.
Thx buddy 🤛
The music I use is from the latest goasthack cinematic bundle !
Thanks for your amazin reviews, I am considering getting Simucube Pro bundle with GSI Hyper P1 wheel, and Simagic U + FX Pro, with the delivery cost to my location, the difference is 700€, SImucube is more expensive, if I put aside the cost, which bundle you choose. I know it is highly on personal opinion, but your personal experience matters. I saw there are some talking about the the Simagic Software is beta and this is the only issue that it is mentioned. I am not super PRO to configure details, most probably I am going to check couple of settings and find the best that fits to me then keep as it is forever, to is the software is something you need everytime? in general is a huge upgrade for me as it is my first DD wheel base. THANKS MATE 🙂
Hi buddy 🤛
I personally haven’t used my Simucube for over a year now and the Alpha Ultimate is my main base.
It is not better from FFB point of view but they both produce exactly what I need so, the feedback is not the reason!
What I like mostly is the quick release system from Simagic and there wheels!
The software is Beta but there are constant updates and for a year now I personally never had a single crash which I had several times before with the Simucube but both ecosystem from software point of view in my experience are very solid!
The FX pro is incredible wheel for the price but is closed in there software which means is not compatible with SimHub and have limited options!
That being said , if you do research of there screens options you will find great options and will be wireless experience!
The GSI is great wheel as well and have full freedom with the SimHub and you can still use it with Simagic base just adding a quick release!
One other wheel you can consider is the Soelpec which is better then the GSI for example for the same price!
You are not limited so you can mix things and still save samo cash buddy!
Whatever you choose from those, I can promise you will be super happy and won’t miss or gain much !
@@chepilevskithanks a lot mate, I will take a look. Looks like the most difficult decision in my life so far 😂
@@MK_UTD don’t make it too hard for you buddy.
First think what is esthetically the most pleasing for yourself because you will have those for years!
From quality they are very close!
If the price is what makes it difficult, just think that in few years it won’t really matter anymore and will be all about the experience you had!
So now that Simagic has reached the top software wise here is the big question.....
Is an Alpha or even an Alpha Mini enough? I mean if the strength is not the issue then do they provide the same feeling, fidelity and information as the ultimate? Is there any reason to buy a larger motor than the Mini if full strength will not be used anyway?
I had the mini before upgrading to the ultimate and the mini is plenty for a first timer with direct drive. But then once you get used to it you'll probably want more torque
@@chadharris6625 ok, what for? I mean unless you want to simulate a 80s ascona with no power steering...what other reason is there for more torque?
I'm genuinely curious as a g27 owner for over a decade who "sometime" will buy a DD and wants to get it right the first time
@Gorrak Smashskull Well then the mini would be more than enough for you it's subjective
@@chadharris6625 why would you want more torque? RaceCars today has powersteering, so alpha mini should do the job! I have the VRS with 20NM I only use maybe 30% when driving GT3 cars, if i jumped in on full power i would not be able to turn the wheel, so kinda pointless
mini and r9 which is better
Nice review, congratulations.
Would you be so kind as to post the settings for ACC ?
I would be very grateful.
Very good anyway
@chepilevski news for setting ACC in Alpha U ?
Could u share your final settings from simagic software for iracing?
What do you think about the Simagic Alpha Mini?
hey gorgeous video can you please share your sc2 profiles for ACC and ams2
Having both, i prefer the Simagic 100%. Way smoother and the quick release is a true quick relase and more solid.
How can the simagic be more smooth with a 243000 pp encoder or sth and the simucube around 2 million
hello what is your setting for the alpha ultimate on acc?
Im thinknig of buying the simagic ultimate but currently have a fanatec dd2. I'd like to know how would you compare the 2 in ffb and smoothness is ther much difference between the 2 at all or are they just minor differences. Trying to find an answer before spending the dollars
It is very hard to tell if there is huge differences depending on your expectations buddy! The Simagic ultimate is indeed the smoothest base without losing the texture of the road , even smoother then my Simucube 2 pro in some settings and if smoothness is what you want then yes , there is a difference!
The overall experience is not huge difference between all of those big DD bases !
No worries thanks for your reply mate. Love your work awesome channel
What steering wheel is that at 3:42? Mm size? It looks great for rally and drifting!
Nevermind, looks like a GTS wheel (How did you find yellow in leather? I can only find red with alcantara.) with the GT Pro Hub button box. Right? 300MM
now sc2 need to put out at least a 20% off black friday deal with such a great competitor ;)
That will be awesome 😃
So, what are your settings for iracing?
I will always believe😎👍🇨🇦
Share please your SC pro2 settings for rf2 and AC/ACC.
I've noticed that Simagic wheels without any post-processing filters works almost perfectly in a matter of details. So they are awesome for a people that likes good experience out of the box.
Yet I can't find this sweat spot with SC Pro 2 wheel. It's too "raw" with post processing turned off, but with even a bit of damping or any other filters - it starts to loose those priceless details. Also there is one thing that I can't overwhelm - counter-steering. To catch the car perfectly I have to lower the overall gain and of course loosing details again. This last point is mostly about AC, because ACC doesn't have this issue while it has dynamic damping.
Hey buddy, I don’t drive much AC and mostly test to feel the feedback and I far from being expert of the sim but I know exactly what you mean !
On those raw settings SC2 feels really bad lot lots of nice and vibrations and I have to go on reconstruction filter up to 5 to smooth the signal out !
It feels good but I’m not on the limits of this sim to know how bad are those settings on the edge of the limits and I haven’t found the way to smooth the ffb except with the reconstruction !
@@chepilevski I didn't even try such high values of reconstruction filter. Should give it a try then.
And what about other values in the filter - damper, friction, internia?
@@simstation1122 I keep inertia OFF and friction/damping 8%
@@simstation1122 I keep the damping and friction 7% and I’m getting lots of oscillation if I let the wheel but I never do that anyway so is not problem for me ! The reason I keep them low is to make sure the FFB doesn’t fight against those forces !
Nice comparison, however it's the software (many issues in Discord) and long term reliability (unproven) that concern me most about Simagic.
One of the main reason I will stick with this ecosystem!
They have to work hard to prove there products!
I love every gear I have from there but the time will say how reliable they are !
They’ve been out long enough that reliability concerns should be somewhat alleviated by now. Big industrial grade servo motors should be practically bulletproof especially for what we are using them for.
Question, can you remove middle rotary buttons from simagic gtc , to put some other rim? Like on your video 3:40 time. Tnx.
I’m not sure buddy 🙈
They must be soldered!
I just picked up the Alpha U, could you list your iRacing settings for the Alpha U please?
Hey buddy, I use Smoothness level 1
Speed 100
Interpolation 100
Power 100
Damping 0
Friction 10
With those the wheel is bit dead in the center but I like the grip load and reaction speed in the corners!
Just try to test everything you can and see what works best for you🤛
@@chepilevski Thanks a ton, i appreciate that!
Are you still running this base to this day? And how does it feel now after a little bit of use?
I planted to run this base for a year to see how the entire ecosystem works! The last week I put the Cammus 15 nm base for test and will keep driving on it for another two weeks before I set the ultimate back but after 4 weeks I’m still very happy with the performance of that base !
@@chepilevski I just got my hands on a ultimate, it feels amazing. but Im curious if SC2 pro would be even better, would you say its worth changing for it or remain on Ultimate?
@@edwardblom4201 at this point those are almost indistinguishable from feeling and speed and the ultimate can be even bit smoother with some of the extra filters they have in the software! I personally don’t think you can get more from SC2 buddy!