The Morrvair VS A Bolt On Ford Bronco Off-Road Challenge
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“I will wreck this thing before I ask for a spotter”
That made my day 😁
😂
That was the best line of the day!🤣
But due to his inexperience he got a spot, which was his -1 score. Wreck it...????...Nah. Not really.😎
Well that's basically what happens.
Full send!
The portals looked awesome... Until I saw the price. $20k 🤯
Looks like an awesome kit though
lol I was looking into portals for fun the other day. saw the minimum price was around $5k and noped out. I can't believe this set is 20k
They definitely got sponsored with the portals
Saw that it was made out of machined billets of stainless steel, knew the price had to be nosebleed high. Hope the gears and bearings are worth the trouble & up to the challenge ,,,, oops, Al no SS, someone says below
@@boggy7665 More gears and bearings.. More failure points was what I was thinking 😅
@74weld portals aren’t if you look at the alternative cost to get upgraded full float axles, knuckles, brake upgrade with 14” rotor, axle regear and 4” lift to run 40”+ tires.
Fun fact. I made those portals. Glad to see them on this channel!
Heck yeah man! They look beautiful and seem to perform even better
If I had the option to chose one of these rigs, I would take the Morrvair every time. Beside being a capable rig, it also has unmatchable character!
Yes all around. Just remember that it doesn't come with a service manual.
Who needs a service manual? Oh yea, new Bronco guys. I always wanted one of the first gens, but these new ones are Soccer mom mall crawlers.@@brucehalleran1149
Gotta love Kaulin telling Matt “I’ll wreck this thing before I ask for a spotter” 😂
Is that how he spells his name? I feel like an idiot now, I called him Collin in about 4 different comments.
The big deference to me is anyone with deep enough pockets can have a bronco like that, and its nice.
The Morrvair was built and designed by you and your crew. its a one of a kind. Matt and his crew should be so proud of its accomplishments.
It is awesome!!!!!
Seeing as how I'm heading to Sand Hollow next week I'm trying to decide whether I call out Matt or Jefe for a wheeling challenge... Haha.
Challenge accepted. Either way.
The Morrvair is an amazing build. Just the right abount of power, plenty of flex, with width and length seem to be just right and it looks great!
100% It is one sweet ride.
I just love Matts sense of humor. You can tell he was in a good mood out on the trail...
A man in his element.
33.3% better or this much millimetres! :)
he especially likes it when the bronco is waving the rear tire and the morvair just articulates so wildly it doesnt lift a wheel. He does look like he is enjoying his life right now, which is fair, those guys look like they were really putting in the work even before they got youtube famous.
Jefe did great with his bolt ones. Matt why don't you have rocker rails?
@@johnhertel3931 I felt the same the last few videos Matt looks like he is really enjoying life. Which is I am assuming why he worked so hard. I know a lot of guys who have worked their butts off that have not gotten to the happy point like matt. I takes a lot and gives me hope to be that content one day.
"I will wreck this thing before I ask for a spotter" 😂😂😂
I laughed at that too!
Typical of any teenager driving their parents car… “drive it like you stole it”
I love the way Matt gives screen time to so many others in the crew instead of hogging the limelight like some CZcamsrs.
@@iridium8341 You are clearly negatively biased. I would even say you are outright rude and obnoxious.
You know what we do with a rude obnoxious and impolite dudette? We dunk them in the horse trough.
Feel yourself wet and dripping from horse spittle.
I just get annoyed when the camera idiot always tries to get involved. I don’t want to hear him nor care for his comments. Just to your job and point the camera away from you and
@@tonybravo7520😂
Doesn’t matter who gets screen time because every video is a paycheck
Maybe his kids and wife wanted to take a break from being infront of the camera. Not everyone is a narcissist and craves being the center of attention. Some people know they are cool, and dont need constant approval from strangers.@@iridium8341
Man, what a crew. I spent my entire working life as a contractor. I could find a few good crew members at a time, but I never was as successful as you have been having your entire crew hitting on all cylinders all the time. I really enjoy watching your channel, I know nothing about how to work on vehicles, let alone building something from the ground up. I guess it's a guy thing that makes your videos so interesting. Keep on keeping on. Mike
You're comment is SPOT ON!!
I spent 20yrs in the Carpenters Union, building bridges...
And yes, while we always had a good crew of 6 - 7, there was always that one guy that was a slacker, needed a babysitter, or was perpetually hungover!!
I think Matt's advantage here, is his relationship with his close-knit group of Family and Friends, who know how to give 100%!!
I would hope a $20k upgrade would make a huge improvement 😅
I agree! I wonder though what other upgrades could he have done for the same improvement, and what would that cost?
I wonder if they have spent more on upgrades than what they paid for the vehicle.
@@jss27560to be fair, some Jeep owners spend more on upgrades than they do the original vehicle. I see the same in the 4Runner forums as well.
@@jss27560at this point they probably spent more on the upgrades than the car but then again they might have gotten sponsors so they got cheaper or free stuff.
Who has $20000 for a lift?
I remember the day you guys surprised jefe with that bronco.
Been a great ride so far.
Keep up the amazing content.
Happy 2024 MORR!!!
And to his credit, he's not afraid to wheel that thing! Can be hard when they're shiny new! 👍
What a blessing you get to work with your sons and nice people like Jefe, Tom and all the rest.
Yea but I miss my cowgirlfriend, booo hoo booo hoo.
Yea..... I had a crush on her for the longest time. Is she still part of the crew? I took a break from YT for a bit. (I would love for her to ride me like a bronco)@@doctorprick2843
Matt, back in the 70s we made "portals" on the cheap. However we didn't call them portals. I had a fiberglass dune buggy on a shortened 61 Beetle frame with a 65 "pancake" or Squareback engine, and a Beetle transmission (4.12:1 ring & pinion), and the axle shafts off of a VW van. The van axles had offset reduction gear boxes on the ends which gave me an extra 1.39:1 reduction in my final drive ratio, plus got an extra 4" of lift, because we oriented the gear boxes vertically. Manx used to make a kit to do this, but we just made our own. So for me, a "portal" is just a rebranding of a concept that has been around for a long time.
Guess they’re similar to the OG Unimog
Thank you! I was trying to remember the Unimog, was driving me nuts going blank on it.@@Thisguyandhiscamera
Sounds like the van used portals and you just didn't call it that?
@@nononanonon In the 1950s when the first VW Type 2s (vans) were first invented, they weren't called portals, they were called reduction gears.
Love Kaulin's no fear attitude! With some more practice he'll be every bit as good as Jefe
I laughed so hard when Kaulin said he’d wreck this thing before he asks for a spotter. So funny. Great video as always. Love the whole team! Thank you 😊
"I will wreck this thing before I ask for a spotter" best quote ever! Good one Collin
I love the old school way of Matt holding the camera. And man those dogs are so happy! Love y’all
I'm so surprised how well the Bronco has performed even before this latest mod! My hat is off to everyone! A real fun and enlightening video!
Hefe needs to get some new wheels with more backspace to narrow the width somewhat. I think 74Weld recommends a 5.5-6" backspace wheel with the portals. He looks to be running around a 3.5" right now.
Definitely needs a little less track width, looks a bit goofy and wide for some of these obstacles.
I agree and while he's at it, put some 40's on them.
Thanks for pointing out milestar tires. I put on my jeep because of this channel. Just went through two snow storm with 40 too 50 mph wind at 36lbs with super traction. Thanks
1. turn table in the garage to rotate the vehicle.
2. a viewing window to over look the garage.
3. Thank you for letting us live vicariously through your channel. I need out of Canada
Im sorry your trapped in Commie land. Apparently you can just walk into the United States these days with no problem, seems like a few million people are doing it every day. Not that we want any of them, but any Canadian with a Skull mask and enjoys a well built garage and badass vehicles sounds like the kind of people we welcome around here. You can bring one legged Peg with ya, that dude is more American than most Americans these days.
Would love to see a budget build that's attainable by the average weekend wheeler. No sponsored parts, just basic upgrades anyone can do without needing a second mortgage
Probably need to find a different channel..
The first couple years of Bleepin Jeep were like that.
Probably don't buy a brand new bronco lol
That is basically the Morrvair 99 percent of the parts on there are parts you can find in a scrap yard take out engines take out axles the OSI shocks are the cost on it and not much else. Its just a lot of work but as far as parts goes its nothing like the Portals
That’s essentially what the Jeep builds have been. Dory and the Banana don’t have a ton of money in them (I don’t count optional stuff like paint work or custom stitched seats)
This channel has made me want to move to Utah and start wheeling everyday.
I didn't expect this caliber of competition between the two rigs. I concur with Matt's scoring, which is a BIG surprise because of the huge improvement in the Bronco. Well done Jefe & Rhett to show the world how to install a great modification.
Please put "I will wreck this thing before I ask for a spotter" on your recovery shirts 🙏🙌 that would be awesome
Wow, way to step up the editing. Loved the lineup comparison, the music in and out, onscreen text, and cuts. Thanks for taking us down this trail. Felt like I was there.
The Moorvair just continues to show how great it is.
The master himself built it. Matt is awfully good for a non engineering dude working from home
The Bronco is superior, don't let them biased judging fool you
@@Posting-Maharashtra I'll say this around here a lot of guys drag race and had to start modifying their own chassis to stay competitive. So far none of the guys I know with good chassis and working cars or off road rigs were engineers. Gives me hope lol
@@tosgemI disagree, for rock crawling in some situations maybe but the morvair is insane in its element. The bronco could never ever do what the morvair can do In certain situations and the morvair is only slightly behind in others. For me I’d take the morvair purely because it would fit better for the things I do over the bronco
"That Bronco is making Jeep noises." 😂😂😁😁🤘🤘
"None of them, brought their evening gowns."
"I don't know what that means."
🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂
YES, we are old!!!!
" I will wreck this thing before I ask for a spotter" had me rolling.
I look forward to all your videos...better than most stuff on TV these days!
The morrvair.. "no prep" cos that's how it came out of the factory... 😂😂
It's had years of prep. Great seeing Kaulin have a go and Jefe getting wheel time behind all the mods. (So wide now) Great vid!
This was a really fun video! Prime USA out there you guys! Enjoy and thank you for the share! Always a pleasure with you all. 🇺🇸
It's adorable how excited Jefe is about his Bronco ^_^ Like a little kid showing off his favorite toys!
Those Portal adaptors are really cool and seem to be strong enough for the factory hp in the Bronco. His GIANT steering arms will come in handy now.
"I will _wreck_ this thing before I ask for a spotter" 🤘😂
Love the Yukon gearing and posi.. same in my 1998 XJ.. fun to watch you.. thanks for sharing..
Love to see how happy Jefe is with his new gear.
Love the off road videos, awesome to see the bronco grow and become more capable. I want to see some recoveries!!!
Great job guys! Jefe was so excited about everything. That was awesome.
Great rigs and fine driving by all involved. With each new video I'm more and more impressed with how relaxed and natural everyone has become on camera, especially Kaulin and Rhett.
20K for wheel spacers
😂
Kaulin, that was amazing driving for your first time on the trail. Jefe that is such an incredible upgrade, blew everyone away sure looks like you can even up the air pressure to 12 psi and still kick butt... Awesome episode.
21:08 Kaulin made an 'axlellent' choice there. Nice pun Matt 😂 👌
Love the show MORR team!
Looks like this channel is now also my "Go To" channel for extreme Bronco Gen6 off-roading! Great build Jefe!
"i will wreck this thing before I ask for a spotter" that's the difference between built and bought!!! I love it!!! Well said brother, get you some!!!!!
Robbie Layton
…except Jefe didn’t buy it, Matt did😂
The bronco is very impressive for a stock platform.
"None of them brought their evening gowns..." And Rhett didn't know what that meant and I laughed. Man am I old. Love the idea of the portals, I saw it out here at the RodeoXRigs here in California. But the cost, kinda out of my offroad budget. But still impressive idea. Matt, if you're thinking of using them on a Corvair mod for Baja you don't think the lower gear ratio the portals tend to have would hinder any top end speed? Just an armchair offroad enthusiast thought. Always lovin the channel.
Always love seeing a happy Jefe and MORR crew!
It’s good to see Colin being a part of the MORR Crew.
I am impressed with Jeffe’s Bronco. The addition of the Portals has made the Bronco so much more capable. Awesome job.
The Morrvair seems to have no problems at all with the trail.
Mornin guys....great video....both drivers did excellent....both had the learning curve goin on.....great job Matt !!
Enjoyed seeing the difference in the vehicles. Still like the repurposed vintage car turned into a rock crawler with the turbo 400 and the 5.3 LS and Dodge axles. Will be good to see the next Corvair for the baja. Kaulin, keep going guy, you seem to be bouncing back well from your leg issue !
Love the "Portals", but had to give an extra point to Kaulin for "I will wreck this thing before I ask for a spotter !". Spoken like almost every Son driving his parents vehicle.Well said. The 1 spot was just because it was new to him, but the overall "Improvement to skills" goes to Jefe. while the "Best New Driver" Has to go to Kaulin. Thank Goodness there was no last,"Hey Guys, Watch This" situation. ;)
The extra width added by the portals in the front will untowardly affect the scrub radius. Curious to learn of the effect on high-speed handling, especially in an evasive manuever.
The portals were an awesome improvement to equal the playing field with the Morrvair, but the increased width now fully solidifies the Banana's lead as best rock crawler.
Could a different offset rim help the issue
@@gerarddwyer5112 Was thinking the same thing when I saw the new track width
I thought a different offset on the rims could narrow the width, as well.
It's funny how in the 1/10th scale RC rock crawling world there are portal-equipped ready-to-run vehicles available, and also aftermarket offset wheels that tuck the track width back under the fenders. Much less expensive than the 1:1 vehicles and their parts!
It's fun to see how excited Jefe is on the trail with his new portals. 👍☺️
Love these rock climbs-my absolute favorite videos!
There are like 7 different times in this video that I wanted to hit the like button. This is pure MORR.
Have fun at the offroad games, y'all.
Kaulin is great driver! Very impressive for having little seat time in the rig and never running that trail!
I NEED to see Matt in a Corvair at the Baha 1000 now. Thanks 😊.
Jefe - the Bronco is looking awesome, but for the love of god, please paint those bumpers, even if it is a rattle can job.
Really loved the off-roading tips in this video. I know a lot of really experienced people probably follow the channel. But I don’t live near off-roading spots and didn’t grow up with it. So even some of the basics are appreciated.
Like Hefe pointing out that it was his lockers that helped and Matt mentioning the back axle. Or Matt mentioning the black marks to help pick a trail.
I need those tips so thanks!!!
White marks are scrapes, and black marks are tires - keep your tires where tires go, and other parts away from scrape spots 😉
Some very expensive looking bolt on portals so happy you guys are able to afford all this amazing stuff much love and respect don’t forget to build or buy a land anchor ⚓️ :)
Sponsors are awesome
@@Berm_Blaster heck ya they are once you have the. :)
@@Berm_Blaster Except your assumption is wrong...
I could,ve sworn this whole time that the Morrvair had lockers front and back!!! That thing is awesome!!! I wasn't subscribed when you guys built it, I'm goinna go back and look for the "Morrvair build videos" I sure hope they're there!!! The Bronco assesment Matt gave is on point. This Bronco has gotten the best upgrade it could have, but at what price? That's the question. Great video!!!
That was an amazing change in the Bronco. I love yalls videos cause ya never know what to expect.
Kaulin has been seeming so healthy and spry. We all hope that means his leg is doing fine.
The rusty bumpers is a great look on the Bronco. 😂
No free spray paint from any sponsors I guess...
I was about to write about how he wants the Bronco to be perfect...but has those. I was going to recommend having them blasted and powder coated over at Robby's place.
I love the look of these new Broncos! And you have done a great job upgrading this one!
I'm a Ford guy all day long, but Matt and Paul are building serious offroad vehicles that will compete with anything out there. The fact that the Bronco looks about equal is saying something for sure!
The portals are super cool, but tons with big tires are a pretty bulletproof combo.
Im curious to how the portals will hold up against a ton of highway miles. Id bet they're more for off-road use only
Especially with the gear reduction.
We put 40K on a set last year. Straight cut gears are super efficient and roll instead of slide like a ring and pinion. Road use is no problem...put miles on them!
@@74weld What's the maintainability look like?
Actually, emailed your team instead - looking to get some more info for my own rig. 😉
Every VW Van that you see has them, but only one pair in the rear. Reduction gearboxes on the end of the axle on VW vans began in 1950, and went on until the replaced the VW Type 2 van with the Vanagon. So believe me, they can be very durable.
Just amazes me that you use YOUR BEAUTIFUL DYNAMIC OFF ROAD VEHICLES on these lune Tune trails. GREAT JOB!!
MorrVair vs Bronco, aka Simplicity vs Modern Tech
Then 74Weld steps in and upsets the apple cart, and now the Bronco can keep up with the MorrVair. What is this world coming to? LOL
Great video and "sales" pitch, but no matter what, that was some awesome wheelin' on those new parts!
Awesome! :D but, about 20 000USD for the portals? :O
I get that IFS rides smoother than solid axles. But I will keep my straight axles for rock crawling. The Bronco looks awesome with those portals and how wide it is. I remember when I tons swapped my Jeep with full width axles, I had to learn how to wheel my rig to get used to that extra width. Man, I gotta get to Sand Hallow one day. It looks fun.
I can’t wait to throw my ifs in the trash.
A Humvee with portals is a reminder that a Jeep is just a Jeep.
@InsaneBimmer I never ever see HMMWV on any rock crawling trails, so they are just an HMMWV.
Great going from I hope my rig will do that to that’s not that bad. Need an exoskeleton for the bronco or armor panels. Thanks for sharing.
Quickly became my favorite channel. Been binge watching all your videos for a month now. Living in northern Arizona super awesome seeing you so close. Inspiring me to someday build my own recovery rig. ❤
The portals look great but good lord $20k 😳
Portals, something the Unimog have had for decades. Great to see its now available for conversions.
They've been using portals on built SXSs for a long time now
German company has been knocking out portal conversions (based on mog axles) for decades now. G Wagen portals have been a thing for quite some time.
That yellow thing won
The bronco did pretty awesome for having minimal upgrades. 💪
I've watched all episodes, like some kind of junkie, and this one makes me so envious of the Morvair. It is such an insane machine, with such a wide array of capabilities. Well done on the design and build!
Cant wait to see Matt race Baja with a Corvair or may be King of the Hammers
None of his rigs would make it through either of those races.
@@3.0colorado21 Which is why he mentioned wanting to build something for it. He knows what these machines can do and what they can't. Baja is a monster challenge and it takes a special kind of machine and person to go the full 1000.
I would love to see a price comparison of what all the builds cost between all the rigs.
I just looked up the price for the portals... ouch
I'd bet if you add labor with the Morrvar build, probably about equal
Very cool to see the Bronco build taking shape.👍
BEAUTIFUL EFFIN' SCENERY!!!!!!!!!!!! Love those Utah landscapes.... 😁
Hey matt, when are you building something with those 7 ton axles (the mrap axles)?
I like the portal idea of lifting the vehicle. Not only does it raise the body, it lifts the differentials too. That is a big improvement in clearance.
Is like the diffs on the Mercedes Unimog, allows for a bigger tires and great clearance on the diff itself.
Sweet...now wants one for my 79 bronco baby !!!!
You guys are awesome. This is one of the best shows of any platform.
Considering you can build 40 spline shaved 14 bolts front and rear with air lockers and RCV’s for less than those portals cost they are hard to justify..but the fact that it makes a stock rig very capable is very interesting. I’ve also read that the gear reduction of the portals almost eliminates cv breakage but I’m betting the weak steering system of Broncos is gonna pay the price.
But it also keeps the difference up higher out of the way...not a bad thing
What would it cost to build that Bronco today, $125k?
Congrats Jefe. The Bronco was killing it out there. Loved how excited you were!
As a guy who mounts tires all day long, Jeffe had me holding my breath during that last obstacle. those tires are tough as hell. love the videos. keep doing what your doing!
Jefe's portals made a world of difference in the Bronco and of course the MORRVAIR worked on the rocks as usual. This is one amazing build that Matt did and the Banana is now very capable too with its upgrades. Good video!
At first I'm like, oh man, a staged contest?
Then I watched the video and I learned so much about rock crawling and slip differentials and suspension parts.
MORR never fails to be entertaining and I learned stuff too!
Very enjoyable episode. Happy for Jefe. Thanks for sharing.
What a fascinating device; great idea! Of course, I'm sure they are a lot more expensive than a traditional lift-kit style, since it's got it's own gearbox, but for some it is probably worth it - depending on what you want to do. The downside is they'll have to make different versions for each applicable vehicle model... but most suspension upgrade kits already have to do that anyway, I suppose. I like it!!
I've been wanting portals since 74Weld announced them for the Bronco.
$20k is pretty steep, and I'm curious to see how Jefe's do as a daily driver.
Maybe in a year or two.
Morrvair, always a beast. We all know that. ❤
$20,000 for those 74Weld portals? Yikes!!