I’m Indonesian, we have quite a strong food culture too. But I’d rather see people eating Indonesian food with forks and knives rather than not finishing or god forbid throwing the food away. There is no such thing as disrespecting food except throwing the food away
I went to school with an Indonesian, she got this huge pastry and took one bite. I was very low on money(none) and asked if I can have half of it before she threw it away. She said no, they don't do that in her culture. She spent 3 euros on one pastry and took one bite. It was fresh from the bakery. Go figure?
@@pamelakilponen3682 exactly, that’s the point. You can tell someone’s personality from the way the spend €3 for a fcking pastry. I don’t speak on behalf of the whole country ofc. The point of my comment is we don’t care about the authenticity of our food culture so long as you don’t throw away any.
IMO Italians often overreact to this. I understand that restaurants for example sell something that isnt as good and name it a traditional dishes name(e.g. carbonara) , but stuff like "breaking the pasta is a crime" is just a joke.
It's not because you don't respect food A barbarian can't understand why fucking deers isn't Ok and will think you're the weird one if you don't Racists pos
French cuisine improved very much after Caterina de' Medici in 1547 went to France to marry the French King Henry II and brought with her all her personal cooks, the good table manners ( Italians invented the fork) and culinary skills that French people learnt
ironic isn’t it, that it took bringing in an army of good Italian cooks to sit France on its food journey. Not many people know this, but I find it to be a very, very important fact.
I'm from Bologna, the capital of food. Less than a century ago we were starving, many dishes were reserved for special occasions like marriage or Christmas, we respect the work made in making money to buy the food, effort made in making and cooking it from our mother or fathers. Food fight is a pain, wasting nature gifts it's barbaric. Pineapple on pizza or many creative recipes are just forgettable sin , we love a lot to joke about it but at the end of the day we understand that your food industry is making low quality products, you don't care so much but still you need to improve a little bit adding flavours
>but at the end of the day we understand that your food industry is making low quality products, tell me you don't know what you're talking about without ... eh your post is fucking stupid
@quelodequelo Sei stato troppo buono con l'industria alimentare,spesso il prodotto non somiglia nemmeno lontanamente al prodotto originale...,capisco che per molti fare la spesa sia un problema,ma i prodotti confezionati non sono la risposta,preferisco uno spaghetto al pomodoro ad una "lasagna" surgelata...
Not italian myself. I've spent a lot of time in Italy, going there at every opportunity. I am very much into Italian food culture, to the point of changing my eating habits entirely and learning to cook properly because getting proper Italian cuisine outside of Italy is close to impossible. Even if your chef is Italian, as much as they might hate it, they will eventually have to adapt to local tastes or go out of business. Also, vegetables are never the same quality, water is different (this is why your espresso sucks btw), and cheese is different, like, parmigiano is one thing, but good luck getting a proper fresh mozzarella, you have to fly it from Campania, like, yesterday, it literally costs a fortune. And so on and so forth. I can say there are two main reasons for italians going mad about food. Firstly, food is the culture, as you correctly pointed out in the video. Food is sacred. Food is more important than church. Food is more ancient than the church and Italy itself. Food brings people together, especially family. Food is a constant reminder of the lean times, of which there were many in Italian history. We, in eastern Europe, had a similar attitude towards bread. Throwing away even stale bread was sacrilegious. Secondly, food is the art that has been perfected from generation to generation. One does not paint over Monet and expect a round of applause. But you absolutely had to put your bloody peas in poorly boiled bacon pasta and call it Carbonara, Gordon Ramsay, didn't you? Carbonara, for example, is at least 200 years old. A lot of people spend a lot of time and effort putting things together, trying this and that to produce explicit instructions on what, how, how much, and for how long. Just bloody use it. Messing with recipes is the equivalent of putting cuts from classical pieces to rap songs. Even if it occasionally works, what the hell, mate? You are a musician, init? Make your own bloody music. People of other cultures would give that a pass, for italians this is an insult.
Exactly: in Italy food is an identity and cultural expression, it's an incredibly variegated country and every city, every town, every region take great pride in their own particular cuisine. There are places that are most famous for a particular dish or product rather than their monuments or buildings, like Bronte (pistachios), Tropea (onions), Amatrice (amatriciana pasta) and so on.
>Food is more ancient than the church and Italy itself. Lol this is false. The RCC is 2000 years old. Just stop it. >food is the art that has been perfected from generation to generation Food is food. It changes over time. It ain't never perfect - just agreed upon.
@@damianolanzoni9583 Aggiungerei il mitico tiramisù che però identifica un'intera regione (il Veneto) visto che ci sono almeno 4 città che ne rivendicano la paternità... senza contare che in ogni famiglia esiste la versione personalizzata e sono tutte buone!
What makes italians mad is not that you do what you do with the ingredients or the way you treat them. It's only the fact that you put the italian names on them. If you want ketchup in a bolognese you can do it as long you don't call that bolognese anymore.
This was really insightful and very interesting. Well done. You’ve got my subscription. I never knew it took so much work to make a risotto in an Italian restaurant outside of Italy in the EU.
@EliDPerry2000 Fare "buon" risotto non è semplice e richiede come minimo 20 minuti (il tempo di cottura del riso),ovviamente il risultato premia l'aspettativa,non accettare mai un risotto servito in 10 minuti,è precotto e non somiglia minimamente ad un vero risotto.
I once encountered an ITALIAN in the forest while walking my dog. His NONNA did not have him on a leash, and he came right at me. Before I could even react, he was complaining about my collection of herbs, spices, and over ripe tomatoes. In a desperate act of defence, I threw at him: A block of moldy cheese, dried spaghetti, canned tomatoes, and over-salted meat. The ITALIAN simply gobbled them up in an instant, like a feral animal. I was horrified. He then smiled, he turned at me and said, this is LINGHUNI not SPAGHETTI. He then began chasing after my dog. I assume he wanted to use him in one of his NONNA'S satanic recipes. Turning him into an over-cooked sausage. At that moment, I reached into my bag and pulled out my last line of defence. A can of PEAS. I said "use this in your carbon-era". The ITALIAN shrieked in pain as I was able to make my escape. He was crawling around on his hands and knees. Tears flowing from his eyes. Like an over-grown toddler. An insect. At that moment, I truly understood the nature of the enteral ITALIAN and their weakness. .. PEAS! Never travel without a can of peas... lest the eternal ITALIAN will get you.
@@antoniocarollo9662 ITALIANS have no self control. ITALIANS have no shame. They are always screaming at you. Always complaining. Always embarrassing themselves in social situations. No food is ever good enough for them, unless it is made by an 80 year old, fat, hairy, sweaty, stinky, swarthy, disease ridden, confused, bigoted, poop-covered, tomato stealing NONNA.
No. You are missing the point of what authentic is. A rose is a rose; a violet is not a rose because you say it is. France is protecting their culinary heritage as well from the imported American abominations. Americans want to say they have the best; as long as it’s cheap and doesn’t take too much time. Quality has become a forgotten entity. Yes, I am.
Italian here, all true, putting cream and ham to make a "carbonara" is the equivalent of saying that you can use blue and purple to draw the italian flag. What makes us angry is usually the arrogance to call something "italian" when is not or to use the name of very specific recipes to call something that is different. In my opinion is not the experimentation itself that anger us, but forcing it onto our culture.
Thanks for explaining that so clearly. As an englishman looking to marry an italian woman, i have struggled to understand why they place so much importance on sticking to the recipe, when within Italy itself different regions use different recipes. Now i understand. It would be like going to scotland and saying ‘wow northern england is lovely’ it would offend pretty much every scot who heard it.
Makes me want to visit a burger joint in Italy and be like "There's not enough grease on this burger. Where the ketchup? What do you mean this hasn't been sitting for 10 min getting cold?!" lol
I want to give you a piece of insight on wine watered down for romans and greeks. There is a very high chance that the alcohol content in wine at the time was very high, way higher than today, that's why they watered it down.
As ITALIAN i can say the yours have been a really clever approach to the gastronomic tradition of the belpaese. For us the food is something serious, it's methodical for exemple we do not start our dinner with dessert or something sweet, but always with entree first dish(generally pasta, risotto or legumes), second dish(fish, meat, formaggi or eggs)and dessert. We can skip some dish but always we follow the sequence. We italian maybe have rivalry between south center and nord, but a great respect each other for ours traditional foods.
5:09 From the Netherlands here: sitting before your host is not a thing here. Maybe it used to be, but I've never witnessed it. Neither with my grandparents nor in formal settings.
your is an intersting take...the concept of share values given to food, I will think about it more. The problem is your stress on food as unifying factor. The very late political italian unification is one of the cause of the great varaiety of italian food. Each reagion had a different tradition. Another factor is the climate and environment (very different from the Mediterranean to the Alps) that influenced the availability of products. As an example my gran mother born in 1915 in Friuli Venezia Giulia did not eat any pasta or bead during her childood in a farm. They used to eat polenta every day, with chees. They also ate potatoes (gnocchi, frico), beans, some pork when available, eggs and the fruits and vegetables groing on the farm. She did not start to eat bread and pasta with tomato sauce untill the 1950s. PS apologies for English mistakes
We Italians, as other Countries, have our traditions, food etc. Foreigners can eat wathever they want, but do not mess with our food, we do not ask to anyone to eat our food. Foreigners are free to dislike or like us. Lately there is a european law that forbid to use italian-like words for food (Italian Sounding) : therefore 'parmesan' is forbidden, for example. (Excuse my english)
I'm Italian and i wholly agree that food is a more important unifying factor than say..our constitution, or our government. One of the reasons our cuisine is so revered all over the world, i think, is because of how tasty the dishes turn out despite them being so simple. Most italian food is based on a very short list of high quality ingredients and a precise set of rules to follow to make it all work, so when we see foreigners have no care for those rules, that angers us because we know they could have a much better experience if they cared enough to follow those well-estabilished rules.
That's 1 big difference in our culture. We love food(lol We're America) but we definitely prefer our constitution over noodles. Noods maybe a tie but definitely over food. We ain't picky unless it's steak.
You worship your constitution so much that your former president trashed it by inciting a coup on the baseless claim that elections were rigged and, nevertheless, he’d well be re-elected this year. Concerning food, if quantity+ bogus condiments means loving food, then you definitely do, as far as an abusive relationship may be called love
You worship your constitution so much that your former president trashed it by inciting a coup on the baseless claim that elections were rigged and, nevertheless, he’d well be re-elected this year. Concerning food, if quantity+ bogus condiments means loving food, then you definitely do, just as a rapist loves women
Always support newbies when I can. Good content! I can attest to Italians taking offense to their food being twisted into something that it isn't meant to be.
I get calling an Americanized version of an Italian dish "authentic" is lame but some people make their entire personality about making everyone adhere to their snobby food rules
Not a problem to use a different cheese on a pasta... but please don't use ketchup. ketchup and tomato sauce are not even close.... just get some regular tomatoes (that's just not too hard to find in us... after all tomatoes are from us...LOL) and cook them to get a good tomato sauce. "Why are Italians mad at food?" I'm actually not really sure... for me it's like watching a children make food with mud... I can laugh or be disgusted. When I think about pasta with ketchup I feel like throwing up, you use ketchup with french fries because you need a strong flavour for fries, but when you use it in pasta you just kill it. Why kill good food like pasta with ketchup when you can just use fresh tomatoes in a simple pan with pasta and make an easy and good dish? I think that's the main reason why we get mad (?)... usually most dish here are easy to make with really few ingredients, so there is no way to mess up but you (most people outside italy) still manage to do it wrong in the most spectacular ways.
ridicolous , you don't know difference between geography and culture.oh and you forgot to mention cofee so espresso and cappuccino shouldn't be consdered italian either right? and italians did not learn from the chinese how to make pasta, there were no relations
@@SomeAftermaththis is the most idiot argument I've ever seen. All countries use meats and vegetable that were coming from somewhere else hundreds or thousands of years ago. So Mexicans shouldn't use beef, pork, chicken, garlic, lime, wheat etc.
Pasta native to China? Nope. Noodles are native to China, pasta was used by etruscans way before, there are historical proof about this, greeks and romans made lasagna as well ( at least similar).
My argument about food is exactly the same as my argument about remakes of movies and video games, the original will always exist, Italians need to get over themselves and let evolution happen.
Commentor "calloci" made a very interesting argument in that regard. From his Italian point of view, the experimentation is good, but to call the new dish by the same name as the old one would be "forcing it into our culture". Basically, there's a distinct difference between changing a recipe for personal use and parading a non-authentic dish around social media.
@@dansattah fair enough, but there are also some Italians that get offended when you use any of their ingredients in a way they don’t like, regardless of whether it’s erroneously labeled Italian or not, for example Hawaiian pizza, it’s not even Italian and nobody claimed it to be, the Hawaiian part is more of a stereotype.
I’m Indonesian, we have quite a strong food culture too. But I’d rather see people eating Indonesian food with forks and knives rather than not finishing or god forbid throwing the food away. There is no such thing as disrespecting food except throwing the food away
I went to school with an Indonesian, she got this huge pastry and took one bite. I was very low on money(none) and asked if I can have half of it before she threw it away. She said no, they don't do that in her culture. She spent 3 euros on one pastry and took one bite. It was fresh from the bakery. Go figure?
@@pamelakilponen3682 you got me until the 3 euros
@@RyanTaylor2000 3 euros is a lot for someone who only has 10 euros to last the rest of the month.
@@pamelakilponen3682 exactly, that’s the point. You can tell someone’s personality from the way the spend €3 for a fcking pastry. I don’t speak on behalf of the whole country ofc. The point of my comment is we don’t care about the authenticity of our food culture so long as you don’t throw away any.
1861 not 1871
IMO Italians often overreact to this. I understand that restaurants for example sell something that isnt as good and name it a traditional dishes name(e.g. carbonara) , but stuff like "breaking the pasta is a crime" is just a joke.
You’re not Italian so you wouldn’t understand you putz !!
A joke is good once non 1000 times!
@@ginger942 true
@@ginger942 we will stop joking about breaking pasta when you'll stop about 🤌
It's not because you don't respect food
A barbarian can't understand why fucking deers isn't Ok and will think you're the weird one if you don't
Racists pos
French cuisine improved very much after Caterina de' Medici in 1547 went to France to marry the French King Henry II and brought with her all her personal cooks, the good table manners ( Italians invented the fork) and culinary skills that French people learnt
ironic isn’t it, that it took bringing in an army of good Italian cooks to sit France on its food journey. Not many people know this, but I find it to be a very, very important fact.
I'm from Bologna, the capital of food.
Less than a century ago we were starving, many dishes were reserved for special occasions like marriage or Christmas, we respect the work made in making money to buy the food, effort made in making and cooking it from our mother or fathers.
Food fight is a pain, wasting nature gifts it's barbaric.
Pineapple on pizza or many creative recipes are just forgettable sin , we love a lot to joke about it but at the end of the day we understand that your food industry is making low quality products, you don't care so much but still you need to improve a little bit adding flavours
>but at the end of the day we understand that your food industry is making low quality products,
tell me you don't know what you're talking about without ... eh your post is fucking stupid
" capital of food " lol
@quelodequelo Sei stato troppo buono con l'industria alimentare,spesso il prodotto non somiglia nemmeno lontanamente al prodotto originale...,capisco che per molti fare la spesa sia un problema,ma i prodotti confezionati non sono la risposta,preferisco uno spaghetto al pomodoro ad una "lasagna" surgelata...
"low quality products" lol Hawaiian pizza is better than any pizza from italy
"The capital of food"
"Less than a century ago we were starving"
The capital of food, without food. Got it.
Not italian myself. I've spent a lot of time in Italy, going there at every opportunity. I am very much into Italian food culture, to the point of changing my eating habits entirely and learning to cook properly because getting proper Italian cuisine outside of Italy is close to impossible. Even if your chef is Italian, as much as they might hate it, they will eventually have to adapt to local tastes or go out of business. Also, vegetables are never the same quality, water is different (this is why your espresso sucks btw), and cheese is different, like, parmigiano is one thing, but good luck getting a proper fresh mozzarella, you have to fly it from Campania, like, yesterday, it literally costs a fortune. And so on and so forth.
I can say there are two main reasons for italians going mad about food.
Firstly, food is the culture, as you correctly pointed out in the video. Food is sacred. Food is more important than church. Food is more ancient than the church and Italy itself. Food brings people together, especially family. Food is a constant reminder of the lean times, of which there were many in Italian history.
We, in eastern Europe, had a similar attitude towards bread. Throwing away even stale bread was sacrilegious.
Secondly, food is the art that has been perfected from generation to generation. One does not paint over Monet and expect a round of applause. But you absolutely had to put your bloody peas in poorly boiled bacon pasta and call it Carbonara, Gordon Ramsay, didn't you?
Carbonara, for example, is at least 200 years old. A lot of people spend a lot of time and effort putting things together, trying this and that to produce explicit instructions on what, how, how much, and for how long. Just bloody use it.
Messing with recipes is the equivalent of putting cuts from classical pieces to rap songs. Even if it occasionally works, what the hell, mate? You are a musician, init? Make your own bloody music.
People of other cultures would give that a pass, for italians this is an insult.
Exactly: in Italy food is an identity and cultural expression, it's an incredibly variegated country and every city, every town, every region take great pride in their own particular cuisine.
There are places that are most famous for a particular dish or product rather than their monuments or buildings, like Bronte (pistachios), Tropea (onions), Amatrice (amatriciana pasta) and so on.
>Food is more ancient than the church and Italy itself.
Lol this is false. The RCC is 2000 years old.
Just stop it.
>food is the art that has been perfected from generation to generation
Food is food. It changes over time. It ain't never perfect - just agreed upon.
@@damianolanzoni9583 Aggiungerei il mitico tiramisù che però identifica un'intera regione (il Veneto) visto che ci sono almeno 4 città che ne rivendicano la paternità... senza contare che in ogni famiglia esiste la versione personalizzata e sono tutte buone!
What makes italians mad is not that you do what you do with the ingredients or the way you treat them. It's only the fact that you put the italian names on them. If you want ketchup in a bolognese you can do it as long you don't call that bolognese anymore.
"the lean times, of which there were many in Italian history."
Italy probably has the least of such times out of all the regions of Europe.
This was really insightful and very interesting. Well done. You’ve got my subscription. I never knew it took so much work to make a risotto in an Italian restaurant outside of Italy in the EU.
I'm so glad you enjoyed it!
@EliDPerry2000 Fare "buon" risotto non è semplice e richiede come minimo 20 minuti (il tempo di cottura del riso),ovviamente il risultato premia l'aspettativa,non accettare mai un risotto servito in 10 minuti,è precotto e non somiglia minimamente ad un vero risotto.
I once encountered an ITALIAN in the forest while walking my dog. His NONNA did not have him on a leash, and he came right at me. Before I could even react, he was complaining about my collection of herbs, spices, and over ripe tomatoes.
In a desperate act of defence, I threw at him: A block of moldy cheese, dried spaghetti, canned tomatoes, and over-salted meat. The ITALIAN simply gobbled them up in an instant, like a feral animal. I was horrified. He then smiled, he turned at me and said, this is LINGHUNI not SPAGHETTI.
He then began chasing after my dog. I assume he wanted to use him in one of his NONNA'S satanic recipes. Turning him into an over-cooked sausage.
At that moment, I reached into my bag and pulled out my last line of defence. A can of PEAS. I said "use this in your carbon-era".
The ITALIAN shrieked in pain as I was able to make my escape. He was crawling around on his hands and knees. Tears flowing from his eyes. Like an over-grown toddler. An insect. At that moment, I truly understood the nature of the enteral ITALIAN and their weakness. .. PEAS!
Never travel without a can of peas... lest the eternal ITALIAN will get you.
Linguine... please!!!!
do you think is funny?i don't.
@@antoniocarollo9662
ITALIANS have no self control. ITALIANS have no shame. They are always screaming at you. Always complaining. Always embarrassing themselves in social situations. No food is ever good enough for them, unless it is made by an 80 year old, fat, hairy, sweaty, stinky, swarthy, disease ridden, confused, bigoted, poop-covered, tomato stealing NONNA.
@@antoniocarollo9662 Big suprise that Antonio Carollo doesn't find this funny.
@@yoyonoodle1986 Because it's not, really forced and idiotic.
No.
You are missing the point of what authentic is.
A rose is a rose; a violet is not a rose because you say it is.
France is protecting their culinary heritage as well from the imported American abominations.
Americans want to say they have the best; as long as it’s cheap and doesn’t take too much time. Quality has become a forgotten entity.
Yes, I am.
🤜🏼🤛🏼
Italian here, all true, putting cream and ham to make a "carbonara" is the equivalent of saying that you can use blue and purple to draw the italian flag. What makes us angry is usually the arrogance to call something "italian" when is not or to use the name of very specific recipes to call something that is different. In my opinion is not the experimentation itself that anger us, but forcing it onto our culture.
Amen, fra.
Except it is done with every culture around the globe and yet Italians are the only ones who get so triggered by it, it became a meme.
Thanks for explaining that so clearly. As an englishman looking to marry an italian woman, i have struggled to understand why they place so much importance on sticking to the recipe, when within Italy itself different regions use different recipes. Now i understand. It would be like going to scotland and saying ‘wow northern england is lovely’ it would offend pretty much every scot who heard it.
Absolutely, good luck on your marriage mate,salute from Rome.
Makes me want to visit a burger joint in Italy and be like "There's not enough grease on this burger. Where the ketchup? What do you mean this hasn't been sitting for 10 min getting cold?!" lol
I want to give you a piece of insight on wine watered down for romans and greeks. There is a very high chance that the alcohol content in wine at the time was very high, way higher than today, that's why they watered it down.
As ITALIAN i can say the yours have been a really clever approach to the gastronomic tradition of the belpaese. For us the food is something serious, it's methodical for exemple we do not start our dinner with dessert or something sweet, but always with entree first dish(generally pasta, risotto or legumes), second dish(fish, meat, formaggi or eggs)and dessert. We can skip some dish but always we follow the sequence. We italian maybe have rivalry between south center and nord, but a great respect each other for ours traditional foods.
5:09 From the Netherlands here: sitting before your host is not a thing here. Maybe it used to be, but I've never witnessed it. Neither with my grandparents nor in formal settings.
your is an intersting take...the concept of share values given to food, I will think about it more. The problem is your stress on food as unifying factor. The very late political italian unification is one of the cause of the great varaiety of italian food. Each reagion had a different tradition. Another factor is the climate and environment (very different from the Mediterranean to the Alps) that influenced the availability of products. As an example my gran mother born in 1915 in Friuli Venezia Giulia did not eat any pasta or bead during her childood in a farm. They used to eat polenta every day, with chees. They also ate potatoes (gnocchi, frico), beans, some pork when available, eggs and the fruits and vegetables groing on the farm. She did not start to eat bread and pasta with tomato sauce untill the 1950s. PS apologies for English mistakes
We Italians, as other Countries, have our traditions, food etc. Foreigners can eat wathever they want, but do not mess with our food, we do not ask to anyone to eat our food. Foreigners are free to dislike or like us. Lately there is a european law that forbid to use italian-like words for food (Italian Sounding) : therefore 'parmesan' is forbidden, for example. (Excuse my english)
A very shallow understanding fraught with error and approach.
Please do tell.
I'm Italian and i wholly agree that food is a more important unifying factor than say..our constitution, or our government. One of the reasons our cuisine is so revered all over the world, i think, is because of how tasty the dishes turn out despite them being so simple. Most italian food is based on a very short list of high quality ingredients and a precise set of rules to follow to make it all work, so when we see foreigners have no care for those rules, that angers us because we know they could have a much better experience if they cared enough to follow those well-estabilished rules.
That's 1 big difference in our culture. We love food(lol We're America) but we definitely prefer our constitution over noodles. Noods maybe a tie but definitely over food. We ain't picky unless it's steak.
You worship your constitution so much that your former president trashed it by inciting a coup on the baseless claim that elections were rigged and, nevertheless, he’d well be re-elected this year. Concerning food, if quantity+ bogus condiments means loving food, then you definitely do, as far as an abusive relationship may be called love
You worship your constitution so much that your former president trashed it by inciting a coup on the baseless claim that elections were rigged and, nevertheless, he’d well be re-elected this year. Concerning food, if quantity+ bogus condiments means loving food, then you definitely do, just as a rapist loves women
Always support newbies when I can. Good content! I can attest to Italians taking offense to their food being twisted into something that it isn't meant to be.
I get calling an Americanized version of an Italian dish "authentic" is lame but some people make their entire personality about making everyone adhere to their snobby food rules
Italians are Divas when it comes to food, Greek cuisine is better.
I have to break my pasta before cooking because I’m old and I can’t chew like before and I’ve choked on the pasta and other foods. ❤❤❤❤
@Theresa Chiorazzi Hai mai pensato di usare fusilli piuttosto che maccheroni/maccheroncini o altra pasta corta?
❤️Grazie mille
Not a problem to use a different cheese on a pasta... but please don't use ketchup. ketchup and tomato sauce are not even close.... just get some regular tomatoes (that's just not too hard to find in us... after all tomatoes are from us...LOL) and cook them to get a good tomato sauce.
"Why are Italians mad at food?" I'm actually not really sure... for me it's like watching a children make food with mud... I can laugh or be disgusted.
When I think about pasta with ketchup I feel like throwing up, you use ketchup with french fries because you need a strong flavour for fries, but when you use it in pasta you just kill it.
Why kill good food like pasta with ketchup when you can just use fresh tomatoes in a simple pan with pasta and make an easy and good dish?
I think that's the main reason why we get mad (?)... usually most dish here are easy to make with really few ingredients, so there is no way to mess up but you (most people outside italy) still manage to do it wrong in the most spectacular ways.
Pizza origin may be in Naples but was really popularized in America and by American Italians.....
Wash your mouth with soap
Sureeeee😂😂
Tomatoes are native to Mexico. Pasta is native to China. Black pepper is native to India.
so what?
@@alexanderarfhauser1866
So, you Italian elitist should understand that your food identity is a lie?
ridicolous , you don't know difference between geography and culture.oh and you forgot to mention cofee so espresso and cappuccino shouldn't be consdered italian either right? and italians did not learn from the chinese how to make pasta, there were no relations
@@SomeAftermaththis is the most idiot argument I've ever seen. All countries use meats and vegetable that were coming from somewhere else hundreds or thousands of years ago. So Mexicans shouldn't use beef, pork, chicken, garlic, lime, wheat etc.
Pasta native to China? Nope.
Noodles are native to China, pasta was used by etruscans way before, there are historical proof about this, greeks and romans made lasagna as well ( at least similar).
My argument about food is exactly the same as my argument about remakes of movies and video games, the original will always exist, Italians need to get over themselves and let evolution happen.
Commentor "calloci" made a very interesting argument in that regard.
From his Italian point of view, the experimentation is good, but to call the new dish by the same name as the old one would be "forcing it into our culture".
Basically, there's a distinct difference between changing a recipe for personal use and parading a non-authentic dish around social media.
@@dansattah fair enough, but there are also some Italians that get offended when you use any of their ingredients in a way they don’t like, regardless of whether it’s erroneously labeled Italian or not, for example Hawaiian pizza, it’s not even Italian and nobody claimed it to be, the Hawaiian part is more of a stereotype.