great subtle use of words. The sudden shift in tone when almost the exact same words go from meaning "the general public would be furious" to "specific powerful people would have me murdered" was chilling.
Such a great scene finally seeing her true nature, everything we see about her is on the tv or in interviews or with her giving a speech. Just once we get to see the truth behind her smile and it’s horrifying to think about
It's smart that the creators of Years and Years never show what Viv meant by who would have her killed. Throughout the entire series, we see her as the head of her party, the figurehead, the politician, the charismatic leader, and ultimately the Prime Minister. And then throughout this scene we finally see what's really happening, she is merely a puppet for a group of people much more powerful than herself, people that probably helped her become Prime Minister, and now they help keep her in power and control her for their own agenda, she may be the Prime Minister but she is just as powerless as everyone else. Now Who is behind this it could be Elites, the Russians, it could be anyone but that is left out for us to think about and decide which makes the situation and this scene very chilling.
The only nit pick I had with the finale is that we never found out what she meant by “they’d kill me” which I found so interesting as there is probably someone forcing Vivian to do all this and someone’s behind her..
I don't think the purpose of it is to show that there's someone else behind the scenes. I think the idea is to give the feeling that these populists aren't 'like us', they're being funded, controlled and pushed by the elite. People vote for these figureheads and think they're 'hurting the establishment' but in reality they're just voting for the people who set up the establishment in the first place. There will never be one individual who's behind it all - its a large group of people who will never be destroyed because they represent the system at its core. Russia, corporations, the banks - they all are pushing the next populist so they can divide the public and further their own agenda.
this isn't a whodunnit, they don't have to tell us who "they" are, because we know who they are. people with enough money to buy anything. and they already control politicians in our world, right now. think on
There doesn't have to be a shadowy organisation or rogue country controlling her. She's also controlled by those who put her into power. The most dangerous politicans are those who do what they think the electorate want at the expense of their own beliefs.
In this case, probably those who hold the keys of power behind her regime. Generals, ministers, business owners, etc. They're the ones who backed her getting into power, and have been doing so for long enough to be tied with her name and actions. As long as she delivers what they want, they're happy. She leaves, and there's a power vacuum, They'd make her the scapegoat of all their problems, and blame every problem on her while dealing with her to prevent her from going to any sort of press about what they did. Because while Rook was a millionaire/billionaire, she'd need a lot of money and influence to get herself propelled into power far enough to be as untouchable as she was in the decade of Years and Years. That requires a lot of people willing to play ball with her authoritarian policies and be okay with them. To boil this all down, Rook isn't the cause of all that went wrong, but merely an external symptom showing that society needed to be majorly changed. Because as Muriel noted, too many were letting down those who needed help out of apathy, convenience, or some combination thereof.
great subtle use of words. The sudden shift in tone when almost the exact same words go from meaning "the general public would be furious" to "specific powerful people would have me murdered" was chilling.
yesssss. Might be my favorite scene in the entire series
Such a great scene finally seeing her true nature, everything we see about her is on the tv or in interviews or with her giving a speech. Just once we get to see the truth behind her smile and it’s horrifying to think about
Typical Sinister.
This scene is so incredible, the most important few minutes of Vivian's character and played so well.
When she says "they'd kill me" 😲
AudioFag who would
Virgin coconut oil
The people behind her, the ones who helped her get in power and are the true leaders
She said too "i'm not here"
Vladimir Putin.
@@spacepenguins8939the jews
The only time you see her true self.
It's smart that the creators of Years and Years never show what Viv meant by who would have her killed. Throughout the entire series, we see her as the head of her party, the figurehead, the politician, the charismatic leader, and ultimately the Prime Minister.
And then throughout this scene we finally see what's really happening, she is merely a puppet for a group of people much more powerful than herself, people that probably helped her become Prime Minister, and now they help keep her in power and control her for their own agenda, she may be the Prime Minister but she is just as powerless as everyone else.
Now Who is behind this it could be Elites, the Russians, it could be anyone but that is left out for us to think about and decide which makes the situation and this scene very chilling.
It's obviously a reference to the Russians, as we know Russia's government has supported far-right candidates in the US, the UK, France and Germany.
@@YellowJelly13 It could be
Sounds to me like UK local elites rather than the Russians
@@DiegoValle392 that's a definite possibility
Thought it wouldn't be the Russians as she implies earlier in the scene that blaming them is stupid.
The only nit pick I had with the finale is that we never found out what she meant by “they’d kill me” which I found so interesting as there is probably someone forcing Vivian to do all this and someone’s behind her..
I don't think the purpose of it is to show that there's someone else behind the scenes.
I think the idea is to give the feeling that these populists aren't 'like us', they're being funded, controlled and pushed by the elite. People vote for these figureheads and think they're 'hurting the establishment' but in reality they're just voting for the people who set up the establishment in the first place. There will never be one individual who's behind it all - its a large group of people who will never be destroyed because they represent the system at its core. Russia, corporations, the banks - they all are pushing the next populist so they can divide the public and further their own agenda.
All politicians are puppets.
this isn't a whodunnit, they don't have to tell us who "they" are, because we know who they are. people with enough money to buy anything. and they already control politicians in our world, right now. think on
kkkkk
dude i don’t believe you follow politics deep enough
Stewart Langdon there’s also the line from one of the Lyons asking where she got her funding from and I think that backs up this scene
The biggest fear of all, above man, above politicians, above the law, is ‘them’.
Aka the jews
There doesn't have to be a shadowy organisation or rogue country controlling her. She's also controlled by those who put her into power. The most dangerous politicans are those who do what they think the electorate want at the expense of their own beliefs.
" They would have Me killed "
So there’s a bigger bad
shortydapimp28
There always is
Always a bigger bad
The jews
@@spacepenguins8939yup Zionist
Where’s Dominic Cummings?
We all know he’s around there somewhere in this scenario.
Where’s Dominic Cummings? He's finally gone to Specsavers
Barnard Castle
1:53 you're the primer minister you could do whatever you want.
Te doresc multo Niko armasro
Who’s more powerful than the Prime Minister? 😨
The Queen
Vladimir Putin, Tayyip Erdogan, MBS of Saudi Arabia, Donald Trump.
Well in this case the KING
In this case, probably those who hold the keys of power behind her regime. Generals, ministers, business owners, etc. They're the ones who backed her getting into power, and have been doing so for long enough to be tied with her name and actions. As long as she delivers what they want, they're happy. She leaves, and there's a power vacuum, They'd make her the scapegoat of all their problems, and blame every problem on her while dealing with her to prevent her from going to any sort of press about what they did.
Because while Rook was a millionaire/billionaire, she'd need a lot of money and influence to get herself propelled into power far enough to be as untouchable as she was in the decade of Years and Years. That requires a lot of people willing to play ball with her authoritarian policies and be okay with them.
To boil this all down, Rook isn't the cause of all that went wrong, but merely an external symptom showing that society needed to be majorly changed. Because as Muriel noted, too many were letting down those who needed help out of apathy, convenience, or some combination thereof.
Those who control the currency and the markets.
god i would love to see who the people behind the curtain are who scare Rook so much
Probably right wing time travelers from a more progressive future who wants to erase that future
RTD confirming the illuminati?
Illuminati = jews