Wired vs Wireless Gaming Mouse Latency - Final Answer!
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Would've love to if you added the 8000hz mouse on 2:44 👍
Any idea how the G Pro wireless compares?
razer viper and basilisk at the same speed?
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Can you the same type of video with keyboards please!!!
This is an absolutely brilliant video, man. Very impressive stuff.
BadSeed woohoo!^^
Hello Mr. Seed
Brian will you be reviewing Schiit Hel 2? I wanna know your thoughts on it.
The beard has spoken.
Completely agree.
So that 0.3ms is the reason I'm missing my headshots. Thanks man, great to know
Some of the Bloody mouses has 0.2 ms latency.
@@sweetyx1180 bloody mouses suck
@Pasam Naga laxmi they are so heavy
@@ggsmrdoink that doesn't means they suck, that means it's not suitable for you.
@@sweetyx1180 no, they're just genuinely bad. End of conversation.
This is some high quality content.
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@real t3xq you’re unnecessary just like your comment
@real t3xq Enjoy them both
Dude, that's precisely the content we want: Clear methodology, clear results, no bulls**t. Kudos!
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I'm from brazil and your channel is straight to the point, easy to understand. Here is difficult to have access to this type of content, so i usually look for foreign channels, your channel is one of the best i have ever seen.
Easy to understand content has a large audience outside the country of origin. Congratulations.
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Quem te perguntou? Kkkkkk
Também adoro o canal, as vezes fico meio perdida e como não tem legenda disponível a gente tem que dar um jeito, mas o conteúdo é incrível
O canal dele é incrível mesmo. Direto ao ponto, sem enrolação, informações limpas na tela e bem explicadas.
@@Myreph eu tô longe de ser fluente, mas a fala dele é tão polida que acaba sendo fácil, eu aprendi consumindo conteúdo assim aleatoriamente, uma hora quando vc ver tb já aprendeu e nem percebeu.
This guy makes one of the best videos, straight to the point, easy to understand without unnecessary "filler" talk. Thank you for that! :D
You just destroyed LTT. He would have had 3 ad plugs to stretch the video to 10 minutes so you can also watch 2 extra ads before the video even starts.
@@mtx247 Well I use Sponsorblock so i avoid trhat :D
@@evilleader1991 I just skip ahead in the video and use ad blocker.
They look great too
i agree
I’m so happy you didn’t waste 18-30minutes of my life to tell me this answer. Good work on testing and just spelling it out clearly. Wish every CZcamsr just did this.
Bearded Bob?
@@markusuusitalo9846 every! not one or two
Your videos are so damn thorough. You address the main concerns of the general audience, and then go beyond into the really technical side and manage to explain it in a digestible way. I was impressed with the quality of your videos when I found your channel last year, but you just keep getting better. Thanks for your videos Ali, I hope you never stop!
The amount of information packed into under 7 mins here is wild. such a good video.
Appreciate the support man 👊
@@optimumtech Great job, but would you mind giving us data on the supposedly top mouse from AtomPalm?
@@optimumtech have you seen the new “god of mice” final mouse ?
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@@optimumtech h
I'm still amazed that this video is under 7 minutes long. Information density at this level on CZcams is remarkably rare.
Ahhh yes, some optimum tech to finish the day
Been rocking the G305 for over a year now and I absolutely love it. I have tried the viper ultimate and viper mini and they feel snappier but the g305 just fit my hand better which makes it a lot more comfortable to use for quick movements and extended use without feeling fatigued. Always go for size and shape that fit your hand over specs and features.
Excellent video and everything was explained nicely. The first thing I did when I connected my Model O wireless to my PC was to set the debounce time to 0ms. Immediately it felt faster than any my wired mice I was using before.
love how you handle those type of videos and make them not to complicated. keep on your style and much love from germany.
This is SUCH an awesome video breakdown! Awesome job dude!! Not sure how you managed to consolidate such a detail-rich video essay into 7minutes. This is phenomenal! Great job!
This man solving gamer's problems ONE VIDEO AT A TIME.😁
Maybe you could test cheap wired vs cheap wireless mice as a follow-up? Perhaps at the low end there is a latency difference between them
Wasn’t expecting this video. Great stuff!Also my Viper Mini is coming tomorrow!
Fantastic video, always making great analyzes of actually sought after information, keep up the amazing work Ali
Great video, thank you Ali. Btw when is your review of the Loque Raw S1 coming?
Great video, although the differences are small they are measurable. I’ve done similar tests and the problems with the wireless stuff is that the latency isn’t consistent depending on battery level and sometimes just complete randomness!!!! If “really good” is good enough then enjoy the comfort of your higher end wireless stuff.
For me an adjustable amount of force you have to put on the trigger would be a nice option. I've tested countless gaming mice and they all need the power of a sledgehammer to klick the button. With the Cherry MW 2400 i randomly stumbled over, i found a mouse with a astonishing force/precision/cost ratio.
Super good content, would love to see more mice tested like this. Especially interested in how the Vaxee mice perform!
Finally, a very good video on the subject. Nice and compact and straight to the point while still giving all necessary information -> Subscribed now.
Your content gets better and better, it's now at the absolute top compared to other channels in my opinion. You use the tools you have way more purposefully compared to other channels to get straightforward results. And your aesthetics are just on point.
Waiting for your review on the Orochi V2
great video and a very professional and scientific approach to this test. I bought a viper ultimate around a year back and have always wondered how true the claim on the box was about 25% faster than the next wireless mouse so its cool to see I didnt get lied to
I never consistently watch videos from a single channel, but every video here is interesting and well done
Your choice of music doesn't get enough preise imo so here it is, great choice of music as always!
Thank you so much for testing this stuff, I've been going nuts trying to find proper latency analysis for some of these mice.
Awesome video ! Really wanted a pwnage custom but I think I’ll just wait for a bit and stick with my Viper mini for the time being .
Good stuff as always. You should do one for different types of keyboard mechanical switches and optical switches.
Well, I had no idea the debounce setting existed on the glorious mouse, so thank you for that!
Is that the double click speed? - I'm slightly confused about this part when the video zooms in onto.
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@@CellarDoorCS Lowering the debounce setting gives the mouse less latency however, results in the mouse being additionally susceptible to accidental double clicks.
Man if you did a podcast that would be some damn good content. Keep up the great work
Absolutely agree with this.
Wow, just perfect. Can't imagine this video being any better, props!
This is great content, would you consider doing something similar for 2.4GHz keyboards? I would love to see a chart with latency figures for some 60-65% 2.4GHz keyboards out there
Ali, you seem to be favored by the YT algo Gods! Keep up what you are doing.
Of course, I really like your content. Love from India!
Great video, would be cool if you would make a keyboard latency test video as well
Yeah I'd be really interested this, especially if there are any differences between wireless/wired and Micro-usb/usb c
Awesome video glad to hear this about wireless mice since i can never see myself going back to wired i love my Model O wireless and cant wait to pick up the Model D Wireless
Great content. Did you think of including the Razer Viper 8K in this test methodology to see the results you get the more you increase polling rate past 1000hz?
The work you put in is always really impressive.
I veered away from a wireless mouse for a long time because I was afraid of inconsistency and signal loss. Wireless mice feel smoother and I'm going to try one soon.
Thank you for the debounce time stuff with the mow imma go do it rn
Great video, awesome job 👍 I was wondering if you could make a video about wireless keyboards latency as well? I am very interested in the results and struggle to find relevant data on the webz, compared with mice which are a covered a lot. Specially since I think most of us with sff pcs are using 60 or 65 or similar percentage keyboards, they are oftenlty wireless as well but I still use mine wired being afraid of latency ( for example I use a kemove 61).
Hi Ali there is a difference! I was just looking at this issue and came across a CZcams tester doing the same! Thanks for your hard work. I bought the viper ultimate due to this latency.
I would definitely recommend getting some corepads replacement mouse feet for the viper ultimate. Stock feet are ok, but these make the glide smoother
@@iJansport Glide is personal preference tho. Not everyone wants a faster glide.
@@rdmz135 thats where mousepads come into play. There are speedpads and control pads. Mice feet should be smooth regardless of the speed of your mousepad.
Hey do you think you could make a review of the Pwnage symm 2 when it comes out? Also if you do make a review for it, it would be very helpful if you included a latency test to see if pwnage improved it all. Since that would make a big difference if it is a great mouse or not.
both the analysis and the quality of video + post production are prime. thank you.
Great video. Can you also do a test for the new Razer Orochi V2 please? I'm sure there are tons of people out there who would like to know this as well. Again thanks for this video.
I experienced something completely different when testing my Model O Wireless on wired vs wireless mode.
I used the 960 FPS camera on my phone to record 3 mouse clicks on wired and wireless mode respectively. The monitor I used is 360hz so frame latency is negligible. The mouse was also set to 0ms debounce.
With the wire plugged in, I experienced just 1 frame of lag each of the 3 times. But when I had the mouse on wireless mode, there were 10 frames of lag each of the 3 times.
Wow, I'm even happier with my G Pro Superlight, I truly like it a lot :) Thanks for the test man
Same with my Viper Ultimate
Thanks for these tests !
This channel needs more subs. Impressive and cohesive work!
This is such an amazing video and technology that Nvidia has developed. The fact that the software can detect audio vs a hardwire "connection" with no delay difference is insane.
i'd bet that there is a delay but they probably managed to find a way to adjust for it well. doesn't make it any less impressive tho
superlight master race let’s goooo
Yeah boiiii glorious model O wireless!
I have a g pro can i still join? ;3
Will pick up a Superlight in the coming months. Cords are getting in the way a lot.
That's cool and all but Model 0 is the most overrated mouse on the planet
Hey, it's Mr Kandy
thank you for the great graph! when testing the viper how did it feel in your hands? i have big hands so it's hard to find a comfortable mouse
Amazing stuff, would really like you to do this testing on new final mouse once they ship.
Ali, your content has always been a cut above, but this; scientific method, statistics, everything. Keep doing what you do man, brilliant to watch. Glad you're almost at 500k (and getting the recognition you deserve).
I think he was at something like 48k subs when I first found his channel and assumed he had 300k+ subs or something because of how clean everything was at the time lol.
@@WayStedYou Same here! Think it might've been around 35k I first subbed... super cool to see the growth.
love the details, so happy I'm bad at games so I would have missed latency or not :)
Same
Thanks man, really needed this information.
I love your videos. Always straight up, calming voice, informative af
Much better than RJN's absolutely unscientific uncontrolled latency testing.
I tested the latency of my G Pro when clicking the subscribe button. I'm happy to say that it performed as expected
Exactly the kind of test I was looking for. Thank you!
This is such a good and helpful video. I watched it over 4 times in 4 months and I found that you rly clarified everything we have to know.
Keyboard latency next please! GMMK Pro, wired customs, aviator cables vs USB-C, Logitech Wireless, etc.
Would love to see a video on this!
@@iJansport Agreed. I’m also curious if using a Logitech wireless mouse alongside a wireless keyboard introduces extra lag when compared to just using a single wireless peripheral.
@@NOSfusion I have razer viper ultimate and a rog falchion wireless keyboard. I play Apex Legends and overwatch most of the time. No latency or delay whatsoever. no cut off or signal lost when playing. My accuracy is way better and faster now. The only downside is Apex Legends servers sucks. Now I'm on a hunt for a wireless headset for gaming, might as well go all out wireless for my peripherals. :D
I've been a big advocate of wired mice, but when I saw the Orochi V2 I decided to get it. It actually looks so dope.
is the same size as the viper mini or bigger
I ordered it too but the latency may make me want to go back to wired :/ I care about performance the most
@@kae2678wired is better
Really good video Ali, very interesting. I personally don't use wireless mice, as I don't really want to have to charge peripherals and don't use my pc away from my desk.
I main’d my viper mini because it felt so much more responsive than my Aerox 3 in all games and now I know by how much. Great video!!
There's more to latency than click latency. Most wireless mice still have sensor delay, however it is very minimal on high end wireless mice like the GPW. On the other hand wireless mice based on the 3335 sensor show a noticeable delay when you initiate motion, but that delay reduces when the motion speeds up. So the delay is inconsistent.
If he was a tech professor, I would take all the classes he lectures.
What about if he was a vacuum cleaner salesman?
I just love how I search for something and this channel always pops up with exactly what I wanted to see/know :D
This is such a great video, I only wish the G-wolves Hati S was in this list as I switch back and forth between that and the viper mini. Both are small and lightweight mice great for fingertip and claw.
This type of video is exactly why people like me love this channel lol
I think mouse movement latency is far more important than click latency. It would be great to know what mice perform better wireless or wired
There's a big difference in latency & accuracy (muscle memory) on mice.. Most mouse reviewers are sleeping on this subject..
@@chy.0190 wow you’re so smart you watched a youtube video calling it a meme so it must be!!! Lol think for yourself, when i flick my mouse a certain spot on my mat it should constantly go to the same spot on my screen. “Muscle memory” is misunderstood for a whole other meaning when in reality all it means is consistency.
Good point. Harder to measure though
Amazing review! Does the model d- wireless perform the same as a model o wireless? Thank you!
this is sucha good video, i am so proud of being subscribed !
im not even an FPS gamer but optimum tech, gotta watch
When recommendation is faster than notification
Great vid man very interesting. My hesitation with wireless is moreso concerns with movement latency rather than click latency. Is there a video about that on the horizon? 🤔
great video! Can you do a review on the zowie XL2540k? I hear it's used in LANs, and it's cheaper than the XL2546.
Is the click latency the same or higher than the "movement" latency in a wireless mouse?
Yep so sensor latency would be something different all together, I'd need to build a small machine for accurate sensor testing.
@@optimumtech Ok thnks!
I was worried when I saw my Model O wireless show so low in the list. Thanks to you my debounce is now set to zero. Instant sub!
@Optimum Tech I'm a big fan of latency testings! I hope that you will release more latency tests, great vid btw :)
Outstanding! Doing the reviews the community needs:)
I now appreciste my Viper Mini even more.
Just got mine yesterday and I got to say, coming from a g900 to this is night and day in my gaming performance. (I think the g900 weighs like 103-106 grams while the viper mini weighs 61 which is insanse :)
Looks like Ali is taking up Rocket Jump Ninja's mantle. :bigbosssalute:
RJN is kind of finished. He is very overrated in the current ecosystem of mouse reviewers. Just does self indulgent lazy marketing pieces.
boardzy masterrace
@@ecvent0r technically he is done he posted on twitter that RJN reviews are taking a backseat so he can design more mice with xtrfy and write novels
@@HollowRick I wish he clarified this on his channel as well. I don't care about twitter. He is free to do whatever he feels like of course. But he is still perceived as an authority in mouse reviews and has his website dedicated to it si it's a bit tricky to maintain impartiality.
@@ecvent0r I only have twitter to follow certain people other than that it's trash haha 😄 and yeah it would be hard to do
twitter.com/RocketJumpNinja/status/1388293918610006017
Here's the twitter post btw ^
Nice video but i'd love to see a comparison to for example a regular Logitech office mouse! For a better frame of reference, are regular mice like 100ms? Or only 30ms?
lol his video is awesome! I'm so glad you did this test. I have a model O and I didn't even know about this debounce time.
Same, Model D user here
Ali's partner: "He's probably thinking about other girls"
Ali: "I wonder if I can use use audio to test mouse latency"
Ps. Absolutely thrilling video. Will be referencing this to my friends that still somehow believe wired is superior 🤣
This is exactly what i was looking for thanks a lot man
Very informative video thank you. I just bought an Alienware 610M for my new gaming PC. Benefit here I guess is that its both wired and wirelss
I trust this guy over linus for everything lmao
Wired is always faster, because it's a stable connection
Damn such a well made video.Highly appreciate it.Thank you for making cool videos.They teach a lot :D
Love all the content you make, keep it up!
no reason to not go wireless at this point.
you high? wireless ones are still more expensive, and there's also the hassle of charging them. in wired, theres no prob at all
@@randomadventurer1029a good double a battery lasts like a year
Really appreciated for comparing MANY gaming mice, while also keeping it simple and really easy to follow. And big respect for comparing cordless mice connected to the PC with cable ;P
Thanks for the video!
Dope video! Thanks for the info. This definitely persuaded me to purchase a wireless mouse.
thanks for the debounce tip. I just applied it on my mow didnt know it was a thing before watching this video