Strength Vs Size (What's Better?)
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Today we are going to finally settle this battle between training for strength and training for size. I will go over all the differences, so for example the difference between reps and sets, rest periods, exercise selection, training frequencies, and nutrition. So you can make and educated decision if you want to train for strength or size. No matter which way you decide to go, you have to consider your own goals first. You have to enjoy what you are doing, thats the most important thing!
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I started training first for physical strenght, was always that skinny girl. But now I'm addicted to training because I noticed the mental strenght I get from it. I feel so much stronger! Love it. ❤ Also your videos!! 😎
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@@p2wg1llia sorry, I only do gym. 👍😁
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nah bro got rejected on youtube
This is my favorite channel for fitness. I just love the smile faces and the awesome gentle voice. :)
Excellent and simple, as always!
this channel provides so many good tips and knowledges, easy subs! thanks winny
Frankly I went into the gym with very little knowledge of what exactly I was training for. I just wanted to get bigger and stronger. I generally aim for an 8-10 rep area and it’s worked pretty good for me.
Strength seems like the smart one. Muscle is gonna be built regardless
Can you give me a strength training schedule?
Strenght is gonna be built regardless while working on hypertrophy too... The question is more "What do you want the most ?" (and the faster)
@vuhoangnguyenquoc5664 for strength I'm pretty sure it's just heavy weight low reps
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Workout A
Squat 5×5
Bench Press 5×5
Barbell Row 5×5
Pullup 3×8
Barbell Curl 3×8
Workout B
Squat 5×5
Overhead Press 5×5
Deadlift 1×5
Dips 3×8
Skullcrushers 3×8
not nearly as fast and it’ll be more physically and mentally taxing and recovery will be harder. strength will be built regardless, but at least ur joints wont suffer
Trainer Winny, your videos have been super helpful and have helped me a ton. Could you make a video on the Arnold Split?
I train Mentzer style. He clearly attempted to mix both strength and size gym routines to gain the maximum amount of results from training.
I do 3 different sets (usually 3 myo sets) for each major muscle group while resting a lot like the strenght split, however i aim for the 6-10 reps mark usually on machines/cables for the hypertrophy part.
Seems to work well....
Currently training for size. Awesome videos! Thanks you.
Strength all the way, the size will come with it. Thanks for continuing to break down this information. I tend to overthink when it comes to this kind of stuff.
the subscribe on the deadlift weights... the mindgamesssss
subscribed hit bell didnt get notified about this video. Glad i found it.
Good video thanks
Great video
Winny provides us with information about Mike Mentzer's Heavy Duty training program and gives us a program that we can apply.
I try to mix it up a bit.
First few sets i do size and then go up with the weight. My last set will then be in the 2-3 rep range.
And i do deadlifts, because they are fun!
You ❤ got it bro
I tend for prioritize strength while still doing some hypertrophy sets. My legs are big and strong as hell, i’ve been heavy my entire life, so I only train legs for strength, but for shoulders I’ll start with heavy shoulder press and end with rear delt and lateral raises to grow em.
I actually do train 6 times a week 😂 but half are just strength and half are hypertrophy
My uncle is actually an olympic powerlifter, just learned about him last week, so i’m going to have him build me a better split for my goals
great vid thx man c:
My eventual goal is to compete in Strongman, but right now I'm focusing on gaining size which will increase my potential strength. I alternate between Strongman specific, and general bodybuilding blocks of training.
Yo trainer whinny ur vids are awesome. I wanna try an Arnold split so it would amazing if you could make a vid on it!
strength, cardiovascular, and flexibility
You are great
Strengt - Bench, Deadlift, Squat
Size - Every other exercise in my plan
I like starting of with my strength training and then continue with hypertrophy.
Both sends different signals to stimulate adaptations to the weight carried. Good form while testing limits can add significant growth. I always felt doing a hybrid & adding a few flexibility features can really add lifespan to how much work you can put efficiently. Think of Uncle Joey having to bring fridges up to apartments every day. Its cool if he lifts it once, but having to lug that shit daily is gonna need everything health and fitness gives to squat and lift an awkward appliance to balance before placing it down without chucking it forthright. Train to how functional you want to be in your future & enjoy the size and strength you get along the way 💪 😀
i love this type of videdo style i love ur channel man
I find this very interesting, I have been training for 12 years. Initally I was very skinny and I have a hard time putting on weight even fat is very hard for me. My best results for getting bigger has come from lifting heavy with fewer reps, when doing traditional bodybuilding for mass eith higher reps it simply does not do as much as when Im doing between 3-8 reps.
i always include deadlift, squat, overhead press, and bench press in my program. even i always do deadlift and squat in my very first gym session although i do both of them separatelty in different day.
Could you do an example strength training?
For the first 2 years I'm focusing on building Size mostly to pack muscle on the frame before we start power lifting
same i wanna get jacked/toned then i focus on strength
That's the smart way, more muscle is more strength potential
That the smart way because having more muscle on the frame will help prevent injuries
I’m training for strength so I’ll be strong when I train for size
I like these videos.
training for size. i don't want to be huge, but i do what to have a nice balanced aesthetic physique. you know, the V taper, broad shoulders, back, chest, narrow waist, strong legs. that whole thing. but it's extremely tricky developing the right balance for all of your body parts. especially when you find something like the back or side of your shoulders aren't keeping up with the front. or when your upper chest is there, but not as developed as your lower chest.
I’ve always focused on training for strength for building size. The stronger you are the faster you and larger will grow when it comes time to put on muscle, however if you train for size first sure you will grow faster at first but plateau faster as well. Once again how I’ve always trained over the years, you will plateau while building strength. That’s when it’s time to build size and before you know it not only did you build size but because of the size you have become stronger and broken the plateau. At that point i focus on strength and repeat.
Can you make a video about food when cutting cause for we beginners dont know what to eat or what not to eat im not really a beginner been training for a year and 7 or 4 months and i dont understand
The pic of this character was drawn by expert but during breaktime the remaining part( head) was drawn by children. 😂
I go for both.
I’ve done squats this way, no gains made: 5 sets of breathing out before dive bombing down to the safety racks and then up again, 5 - 8 reps. What I’ve gotten however is a glitching sensation in my spinal cord….
5:16 Big bro got me
hey, @trainer winny, what should I do if I want to have muscle, but not get bulky?
I am after size. Actually, I'm trying to cut, but I'm struggling so much to stay in a deficit that I might as well use the little surpluses to build muscle, which will also help me burn more calories
Make video for training for stamina
for size but i dont know yet the frequency of days reps etc and i do the popular 4 times 12 reps with 1min waiting between, and dont know how much to eat but i think i sleep well but not regularly, its just that after 1 year and very low frequency i got a little bigger but when i try to higher the charge i hurt my elbowns and back, the thing is i cant be very consistent in days and sleep and food maybe thats the problem
Hmm, my training plan is a bit different. I train compound movements for strength, such as benching with 5x5 or 4x8, and the same goes for squats and deadlifts. However, for all the other movements, I aim for the 8-12 rep range. I adopted this approach mainly because I focused solely on hypertrophy for one and a half years, and now I want to build more strength in bench, squat, and deadlift just for fun, as I find it enjoyable.
Has this helped with the strength, cause I wanna start training for both strength and size
Question:
I'm currently training for strength, I'm in high school, weigh 180 lbs, and I'm doing running related sports. I want to switch to size, but I think strength might be better for sports. Should I wait until after high school, or should I switch now?
Running sports are very different than the gym for this, as you're actually moving rather than staying in place so often. There's no much question of speed or acceleration in the gym, while you do have a balance between your weight and strengh in running: your movement is relative to the resisting force with the ground, you're not just extending the body: Too much weight, your endurance will drop quickly while going fast. Too much strengh and unsufficient weight, you will run far but not that fast. Depending of what running category you're in, you might find the better balancing for you, you need to mix both. There's no marathonian of 100kg, and there's no sprinter of 50kg.
Kinda sucks that the lower back muscle isn't visible, but yeah i am training with deadlifts mostly for lower back strength.
I agree that you don't have to rest alot inbetween sets of calf raises. But calves are the second biggest muscle in your body after the quads so they're not a small muscle
Im doing bodybuild so im training for size. But I do try to get stronger on keylifts though! Except for deadlift. Im not doing that lol.
Can you do both? And how young should you start?
Can i train 3 days in a week with ppl split for hypertrophy and rest of the 3 days for strength ? .
I need to look bigger. Not for anyone but myself. I’m about 4-5 on the 1-10 scale I’m looking to appear as a solid 7-8
Strength 🐍🐍🐍 body's main purpose is to defend and protect 😊😊😊
Hey Trainer Winny Sir, I wanted to convey my problem
Recently its been 2 months in gym for me(before that I was only doing home workout for years i.e Bodyweight Exercise)
After watching your video on PPL, I decided to follow that regime, and started to gain muscle as well as lose body fat(I run 2.5km everyday at 10km/hr)
But the problem is that many people from nowhere start to advice me, I don’t get manipulate easily but somehow their talk remains in my mind,
Suddenly one will say stop PPL, its not effective do Bro split, then someone else will come and say the vice versa!
Then another will say you got huge muscle imbalance do this do that, then someone else will say everything is alright
Someone will say eat more you won’t gain fat, some say eat properly or you will gain fat again
I AM LITERALLY TIRED MASTER, what should I do?
Do whatever works for you bro, everyone has a different style of training
You should take advice from people who already built and achieved whatever goal you want to achieve currently and study more about these topics, it should take you towards a clearer path.
Try PPL for 3-6 months. Switch with something else and try that out. Or Stay with PPL. Or just change your PPL and add/remove stuff. You got the freedom.
You're a beginner. PPL is great for you, as well as fullbody. If you want to do bro split you also can.
Do the one you prefer and the one thatvd make you train for a long period of time. Consistence is really what will get you somewhere.
Also, try to avoid injuries. They sucks.
If you're seeing results keep doing it. People love to say certain things are "KILLING YOUR GAINS" because it's such an effective attention grabber. Nobody likes the idea that all the work they put in is for nothing.
i wanna get a good body and all, v taper whatever yeah yeah, and then start training for strength, so probably after 2-4 years il start focusing on strength
Why can't you train for both? I do.
Since I do five sets of five, I’m right in between.
training strength instead of size for more practical purpose this time
I’m just curious. Is it possible to train for both at the same time. If so, how do you go about doing so?
Upper Body strength day: barbell bench, low rep high weight
upper body hypertrophy day: dumbbell bench, high rep, lower weight
Thank you. I’ll try that
What about training for fun?
Strength 🐻🐻🐻
Haven’t watched the vid yet but how about both?
How to train for strength only if I’m only 56kg at 179cm? I’m also a beginner. Recently I can do 5 pull-ups, 7 dips and 8 pushups at once
Just focus on putting more mass, you'll gain strength as well.
Keep grinding without thinking too much about the details.
I have been training for size for 4 years, and I am glad I successfully became smaller. Fat loss all the way!
short answer: strength
Training for mobility… technically same as strength, but I want to move fast and high.
I have a Question..?
How to train muscle for muscle speed..?
Plyometrics
bruh i can barely motivate myself to get out of bed
is calisthenics the best way of getting that relative strength?
I mean, calisthenics is pretty much about mastering your own body weight
Im a complete newbie
I'm 22yo 45kg 172cm indian
What exercises would you recommend me?
I get tired easily :"(
But i want to gain +15kg in coming year 2024 :)
This channel is very good to learn the basics. I would recommend you watch his video about the upper lower split and try to go to a gym but, if you cant do that you can still get jacked from home with push-ups and variations, pullups or negative/assisted pullups if you cant do one yet and also high rep bodyweight squats and nodic curls.
you can choose basically any exercises as long as you do it properly (there are a lot of videos on his channel for beginners) but with your bodyweight and height you need to focus A LOT more on eating as that 45kg at 172cm is dangerously underweight
As you get into a bulk and get more time working out, you'll definitely see your work capacity increase gradually. As for workout routines, I'd suggest looking up Full Body or Upper Lower splits!
@@maggotmaskstudios7180 Thanks I'll watch the said videos.
I'll be joining the gym in a week :)
@@goooooog Yes. I'm very frail :"/
I want to get to atleast 18.5 BMI
I weight 80 kilos and can bench 140kg is that like good for powerlifting or still to low (been lifting for 1 year now)
Very good but powerlifting adds a press command so it’s more of a shorter pause rep vs a touch and go. Also your other lifts matter so you might have shorter arms and thus be able to pull less on dl. What is your total?
flexiibility
Health 💀 how
Strength vs size? Nah, I’m doing skills. Calisthenics has a whole bunch of really cool body weight mastery skills like handstand push ups or dragon squats. You don’t really need extra weights for that though, so I just work out at home instead of going to the gym, but I’m thinking about going with my bro soon.
Strength vs size? What about health?
Only nerds care about health. ;p
Nerddddd
Health is kinda gay
No
Size= health. Unless you do the absolute most perhaps. People pretend it's for health not size as excuse for lack of results or effort.
I like 4 to 9 reps per set, once I can do 9 reps I add weight.
could you do a simply explained video on what the hell mike mentzer and his training method are all about, lol. And if it's even valid?
If my bodyweight is low can i get strong enough to lift 50 kg with my one hand
I am 40kg
What kind of lift? Just lifting it up? why?
Aesthetic and mental health 🗿
wait, people can bench more than their bodyweight?! and those types of people are comparing themselves to others?! i'm out here benching 25kg and going to failure!
With a body weight of 118kg (260lb.) My size is good enough so no I need to turn all this belly fat into strength.
Before getting a girlfriend: training for size
After getting a girlfriend: training for strength
but 1 rep maxes are fun
based daggerfall pfp
Why not train for size half the week, and strength the other half?
Because you don't need do. By getting bigger you get stronger and viceversa so just do what you like
@@turiipip2345 thats up to a point..there are guys who are 70kg and lift 300kg deadlift.
there is many people that do it that way
I wight 76 kg hight is 170 I been training for size my advise is try to math your calories with carbs and protein if u wanna get in good shape but if u wanna lift heavy and go max put your carbohydrate up
Ive tried it, sadly i cant recover at my strength week as fast as my hypertrophy week... I think its good to switch it up between size and strength but personally i think it should be done within months to see the better results. 3 months hypertrophy then 3 months strength
I want some muscle for the girls . But some strength too .
Masstedics>>
I am training to not be uncle Joe.
But I really like deadlift 😢
? Ugh. Did you know you can actually deadlift for reps 😂?
Strength is for men
Strength 🐍🐍🐍 body's main purpose is to defend and protect 😊😊😊