Why Switch OLED Model Was Kept Secret For So Long
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- čas přidán 25. 08. 2024
- Nintendo's long-awaited "Switch Pro" is here, in the form of the Switch OLED Model. No, it's not quite the device that fans were hoping for - there's no 4K out, and no faster processor - but there's no denying that this device is exactly the new Switch model that Nintendo claimed did not exist.
In an investory meeting earlier this year, Shuntaro Furukawa, president of Nintendo, insisted that there were no plans for a new Switch model. Lo and behold: a new Switch model. Turns out there were plans after all.
In the meantime, Doug Bowser, master of the bluff, has been dodging questions about the Switch OLED Model for years now, effortlessly beating around the bush whenever the topic of a new Switch model - most often the rumoured Switch Pro - comes up.
To a certain extent, it's true that this isn't a Switch Pro; rather a device with a slightly better screen. So why not admit that? Why, instead, insist that absolutely no new Switch model was on the horizon?
Well, in this case, admitting that an additional Switch option was on the horizon may have been detrimental to short term hardware sales, and that's not something Nintendo's overseers are keen to encourage.
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Nintendo didn't lie, they just tried their hardest to obscure the question.
It's Bloomberg that lied. They got the 7inch screen right. Nothing else. Don't trust them again
@@e3vL1 The new dock, kick stand and more storage was right as well as the display.
"So are we getting a Pro model?"
Nintendo: "Well no, but actually no."
The Kickstand: 💪
"Well no, but actually not now."
@@shinigamimiroku3723 But actually its not a Pro it is just a deluxe version, like the black Wii U
I kinda wish it had Surround support like the Wii U gamepad did (was kinda surreal and wierd but worked)
We’re not getting a switch pro until the technology is there to make a switch pro and it be cheap. Nintendo was literally saved by weak hardware, and cheap pricing their consoles. The fact that people think Nintendo right now will make a pro that would HAVE to compete with both the ps5 and xbox and not have only heavy backlash by the family community (their main demographic) but people probably won’t even buy the switch pro because now it would be a numbers game which will end with people going for the ps5, xbox, or any handheld pc thing you can buy on the market now.
Nintendo didn't actually lie. They never said anything about a switch pro. This oled screen thing was already reported when they made their deals with samsung. It was pretty obvious that the old models will eventually get replace with this model.
Just like when the 2017 version got replace by the 2019 switch better battery version.
Which is also why they never made any big announcement. Because in their mind this wasn't even any big deal.
ewww oled! the super easy to screen burn type of display within a hour of playing or using the display at all crap that i really hate!
Yup. This is just another iteration of the Switch, just like the Mariko Switch we have today.
@@ashtiboy almost every phone screen of the last 4 years had been oled, this isn't 2012 dude
It’s just a basic clickbait video
@@ashtiboy man you really are lying about oled all over the comments aren't you
"Nothing kills hardware sales like promise of a newer better model around the corner"
Sums up why some fans bought a Wii U, but never got around to getting a Switch.
Yea…
a few days ago a streamer I watch literally says that, "nintendo would never say anything about a newer model when the switch is still selling very well and kill the sales for no reason" or something along those lines.
@@theeyetriangle good financial move. at least it isn't the worst PR decision the company made
@@x2bounty I feel like less people bought the Wii U and bought the switch during it’s first year. I still feel betrayed for buying a Wii U and a Switch. Everything console exclusive pretty much got ported / improved upon minus the virtual shop and a worth while Star Fox game.
Also to note to your comment, Nintendo ordered 30 million copies of this Nvidia chip that is going to be stopped for production this year. With the Samsung OLED screens, I doubt a pro would appear for another 2 years until all of those resources are used up and sold to retailers. Which that would be like 6-7 years into the consoles life, matching a lot of other hand held models Nintendo has supported in the past.
Literally who? Thats right, no one.
I wouldn't quite call this a Switch Pro, more like Switch XL
It's exactly the same size, the screen is just bigger.
Switch XL. Yeah make sense!
Sion8 So its Xl
@@sion8 so it's an xl
Basically it's the closest we'll get to a Switch XL
I think Nintendo is trying to not make this a big deal but everyone else is
Yup
Definitely
It’s Nintendo problem for not being clear with their intentions.
@@M567dk They were clear, lol.
It's probably best not to call what they did announce a Switch Pro. The Pro implies some level of upgrade to the CPU, GPU, and/or RAM. While the Switch Pro rumors included the leaks about the screen and the kickstand, those details were only part of the Switch Pro rumors because they were assumed to accompany an internally more "powerful" system, which did not end up being the case.
Exactly. We'll get the Switch Pro, just not now; this was just an upgrade that was needed for a specific issue with the basic model.
@@kageyama3575 The inevitability of technological progress. Even though Nintendo is seen as the technological "inferior" compared to the others, they know they need to keep implementing better tech (as long as it aligns with their core values as a gaming company). Combined with what we already know from various insiders, and it makes sense that a Pro version will happen. It's likely that this current variant is a way to "test the waters" in preparation for the new Switch.
@@kageyama3575 just like the normal switch
@@kageyama3575 ok you didn't get, i wonder why..but just forget it
Pro doesn't imply an increase in computing power. It's a mere marketing term that's been popularized recently by Apple and Sony. In the end they can call it whatever they want. Personally I expected a dumb name like "New Switch" or "Super Switch" for this.
You gotta imagine there was a lot of panic as the rumors of a "Pro" model got more and more overblown. Nintendo was just working on a better screen, battery, and stand while people were "leaking" 4K resolution and a processor overhaul. They had to be nervous of a backlash.
The OLED screen wasn't really kept secret though. While everyone was obsessed with the pro for the past 2 years there were some reports on them making an upgraded switch. I remember a friend pointing it out to me in an article by Forbes about a year or two ago. People instead were like: "Nintendo IS making a Switch pro!"
Well, they didn't have plans to announce a new model - at the time of the investor Q&A. It's a bit of slight of hand, and something we've come to expect from Nintendo - but since it's been a few months since then, I'm a bit hesitant to call it an outright lie. Doug Bowser had the better approach though: Instead of outright denying it, he just avoided confirming it. What do we expect? For them to just tell us about it before they've planned to announce it? What would be the point of the announcement if they just casually confirmed it earlier?
I need a new switch since mine is messed up💀 so I’m going to buy it but I’m sad it’s not really a pro/the joycons aren’t improved.
yes but if you do you would get the known issue of oled screen burn issues! witch would make you wish they insead fixed the joy con drift! once you get a lot of shadow images that are always in the display after you play on the oled display switch after a hour! this would also be FAR even more expensive to fix every week or so! and this is giong to always going to have it! BESCUE OLED is always going to get screen bruin in a hour of use! heck all oled displays do this bescue of how the organic part of the oled gets really bad in long term use! your going to soon realise why you should never have upgraded to a oled display!
@@ashtiboy OLEDS do not burn in an hour. 🤣 It takes months for a static screen image to burn in.
@@ashtiboy While apple sucks I am using one of their phones and its been fine for months
Not me tho..
@@Molybed1 still, it can burn tho..
Basically Nintendo want to avoid to go down the path of Sega.
They wouldn't, the switch is extremely successful and prints nintendo money
I’m disappointed about no joy con revision
@qtsssim it won’t really be “fixed” unless they change the architecture or form factor to prevent it from happening, because in theory, every joystick on the market now has drifting potential, we’ve seen that with the dual sense, where it drifts even quicker than the joy cons and they don’t even give free repairs, yet it’s talked about less
Also they still stuck with the crappy dock design (system could still potentially overheat or warp)
Same. Joycons drift is the biggest flaw of the switch, Nintendo should have fixed it with this new model or even the switch light.
When the Switch Lite released, there weren’t enough lawsuits yet
@@904funny oh. Makes sense. But still I don't get why Nintendo hasn't fixed the joycon drift with this new model.
I think this video is very misleading. A more powerful Switch is still coming - it always has been - but the rumors about the details blended these two entirely different products into one. This is just a bit more than the standard hardware refresh akin to the 3DS XL, while I think we can still expect a more powerful model next year. It’s a pattern that Nintendo used in the past for all their handhelds and the Switch needs a performance upgrade in the 4K era. It was just never meant to happen this year.
Come with Zelda 2 next year
It's a possibility, but I doubt it. (Referring to it releasing next year.)
That Wind Waker reference made me very happy
Props to the person who drew the wind waker reference
Tbf Doug Bowser probably DIDN'T know. Nintendo of Japan don't tell Nintendo Of America ANYTHING 😂
Lol even Japan nintendo barely leak anything out, most of the leak they have come realease games and store
I think the title is a bit misleading. What did Nintendo lie about?
It's a clickbait video.
It’s pure clickbait
They made it seem like no new hardware was coming, then revealed an upgraded hardware model.
They changed the title i guess, their intentions arent the worst
The Wind Waker scene with the OLED Switch 😂😂😂
I love this Switch. Reminds me of my Wii!
How? It's not much different than the og switch other than the screen, kickstand, and lan port
Indeed!
Oh yes. I remember when the GameCube took leaps such as online and motion aiming.
@@RobertoMarquezJr yeah same... Kirby Air ride online would've been lit though
@@switchedup5834 it similar too the vita
2:25 You referenced Doctor Who? I love your channel even more now lol.
Well I think if they said there was a revision people would be overhyped
You know there's a difference between lying and not saying anything. Right?
Furukawa explicitly said in February that there were no plans for a new Switch model.
@@VideoGameStoryTime Companies are not required to reveal internal plans in response to questions. In February, there were no public plans for a new Switch model, so what he said was technically correct.
@@VideoGameStoryTime That's NOT a lie. Keep digging yourself deeper in a hole till you cant climb out.
cope harder soyboys lol
This wasn’t the “Pro” this was the rumor “XL” system that was meant to come before Switch Pro
jesus chRIST just accept that we aren't getting a switch pro any time soon if at all
@@Vixikitsi someone finally said it
@@Vixikitsi Nope, there's signs its happening at least in 2023
@@StarzGecko there are no verifiable signs that anything is gonna happen
@@StarzGecko m8 by that point the switch's life span will be over, if anything it'll be a new console
Sorry, Mario. But the Switch Pro is in another castle. Better luck next time!
Alexa, plays OOF ten hours.
If I were Nintendo; I would just release a specific yet general statement about the conditions in which they will release new hardware. I feel that the Hybrid model is the standard they will continue moving forward with. Given that; I feel that they prioritize:
1. Having good battery life in handheld mode
2. Waiting for technology to become cheap and available enough ; as well as powerful enough to employ in a mobile form factor
3. The current model is dying down in sales
If conditions do not meet these criteria; then we will not see the next significant upgrade from them .
AGHHH I love the references like the windwaker opening, your videos are timely and a treat to watch!
2:55 Don't worry, I still appreciated the reference!
I think the right thing to do was say that it is in production and not show anything it would've build up the hype for the new switch pro
Lol in product mean they finished designing it and already test it out and ready mass production
2:47 The Legend of the Switch: The Income Maker
We have no idea if this is what the 'Switch Pro' is.
It wasn't kept secret. They were waiting until after E3 so they could have a commercial, advertising the games that the commercial advertised.
I loved the wind waker-esque panel!
I just want a more powerful Switch that doesn't drop Age of Calamity below 30fps.
You might have to wait for another two years since Nintendo releases new Switch models every two years.
Big thank you for uploading this video.
i was suprised when they announced this the larger screen will be great and the lan port is a cool added bonus
How were you surprised ? What about it is mildly surprising v
@@joshdean5867 it's a updated system with a larger screen and a lan port i'm suprised
I think OLED model existed because OLED displays are more friendly to vision-impaired individuals moreso than being "an upgrade." It's more an accessibility thing, and I respect that.
Anyone else think that they are gonna bundle Dread with the system
2:20
I just realized the joke for the Doctor Who reference, but it might be unintentional. The OLED represents the 11th Doctor, and after regenerating, the first thing the 11th Doctor says is, “Legs! I’ve still got legs!” And one of the main improvements of the OLED Switch is the better kickstand.
Also the console is still not ginger.
I wish I'd thought of this! I picked this regeneration primarily because it's my favourite, no other more clever reason!
This is not the switch pro, so lets all just wait a little longer
It's never coming
Switch Pro doesnt exist. You have been lied to by scammers fishing for clicks, like this channel.
@@tbhandrew5857 yeh
The rumors won't end
Will we get a switch pro?
Nintendo: Well no.
Valve: But actually yes!
I feel like the main reason why people hate the oled is because it isn't what they wanted, they wanted a switch pro that was basically a next gen console at that point while instead with got the switch ver.2 which I'm okay with I'm sure within time this will become the new standard switch
Tbh if the OLED was a replacement for the Switch, they wouldn’t have lied.
They said no Switch Pro, that’s true. But then they said no new model, so at most it should’ve been a console refresh, better screen same price. But it’s actually a new model at a higher price
:reads title:
What secret? I heard rumors about it weeks ago.
2:23: Hell yeah! Doctor Who reference!
It's a well-done video, but the premise itself is kind of silly, and I think saying that "the truth is underrated" undermines the reality of how businesses work. Companies announce products on their own schedule, when they are ready to be announced, not in response to interview questions or rumors. A half-assed 2020 announcement of "We will have an updated Switch sometime in 2021" could easily backfire with reduced sales (as you noted) or disappointment when the final product doesn't match what people are imagining. It's better for Nintendo (or any company) to announce the product when they're ready to announce it, and not a moment before. That's not "lying"; it's marketing.
I highly appreciate that nod to Tennant! :ok_hand:
Weeb
Can you please do a video about why Nintendo announces games extremely early and then goes completely silent about ti several years (like Bayonetta 3)? It makes people think games like that are canceled or in development hell.
It's not just Nintendo. But basically companies want to boost sales by "promising" big games even when they're still very early in development.
Nintendo didn't lie. Bunch of speculators came up with the ideal of a Switch Pro based on hearsay on second hand sources. Ooof.
thats not what the video is about
@@snorange14 good thing they changed the title
Dang, y'all fast.
Top 10 characters that aren't in smash
I might get the oled but then again I have To many memories with original but hey I'm a nintendo collector so anything they put out I'm getting
Believe it or I'm not blaming Nintendo I'm actually blaming the news articles and the Nintendo fan reddits!!! My thing is why people so mad that Nintendo didn't upgrade the switch!?!?! when they clearly stated they weren't going to upgrade!!!
Joycons different?
No?
Well back to sleep.
I have to wonder if the Nintendo Switch OLED Model was going to have a different CPU but Nintendo had to adapt to the CPU situation. This Model is the result of Nintendo not being able to secure another CPU, it's a stepping stone towards what comes next, which I predict is not a new device but still a model of the Switch.
Nope. Use Occam's razor. You were simple being lied to by fake insiders. Simple.
Occam's razor in a nutshell: all probabilities are 50/50 because 49% is PROBABLY a miss, so always bet on black, gambler man.
In the adult world we practice nuance. It's good to consider things like shortages, and in this case the reality is likely this: Nintendo just acquired a bunch of suppliers to make their PoC going forward, and by now 7 inch oleds simply benefit from economics of scale more, and are the cheapest thing to get. ONE older panel is cheap, but 30 million would get increased management costs so it's better to bite the bullet and START with the high expense for more quality.
Same with RAM, 3 gig modules or whatever they use on PoCs are obsolete, and one module leaves more room inside the casing, so they now use either 1x4 or 1x8 gigs of RAM like in the devkit, instaad of 2x2 or 2x3 for 4 and 6 gigs of RAM.
Also, price drops are not a given or some consumer right. In reality prices would tend to go UP so you better invest early, and the adjustment as price drops only exists because the whole world is out-competing the one product that loses value. The whole world now is NOT.
They should've just called it the Nintendo Switch +.
@A B It has about as many, or more improvements than the "plus" versions of most electronics do. It would've been the perfect name to signify that it's not necessarily more powerful or capable than the standard switch, it's just a small upgrade of the original model.
I still understood the explanation of how this video was published that fast. Maybe bcs English is not my native language, maybe bcs I was hurry when I watched it. But congratulations.
And thanks for keep making these videos : )
I don't know if today exist OLED screens without the pixel-burning problem. But at least people can still choose between multiple Switch models without missing new game releases from Nintendo. That is good for many old Switch users.
... I guess that's all I had to say. Have a good time.
Well I think that they need to put a tighter lid on the security and their secrets on their hardware until that their ready
They can't most of the leak come form their board meeting and Nintendo fan have been demand for more powerful witch since the witch come out. Btw most hardware leak is form assembly factory. It really hard keep a secret on the hardware side cause their are so many parties involved in the production.
The way i see it is it was hyped up by rumours. Its not a switch pro, they never advertised it as such. It's the switch oled model. Most switch owners won't get it. However, i see it as a device for newcomers and for those who's switch is either old or very worn. For example, I'm thinking of fixing the drift on my switch which i got on launch then selling it. Then i might buy the newer model with birthday money and whatever money i get from selling my switch. I would never buy it flat out though. Also, one other thing, i feel like people's expectations are too high. People who wanted a 4k resolution are kidding themselves. I will accept that better fps and Nintendo fixing drift themselves are changes that they should have added by now though.
Instead of making slight upgrades how about Nintendo fix my joy con drift. Haven’t been able to play portable for over a year or so now.
you know there's plenty of videos on how to fix joy-con drift right?
@@That1GoldenBoi why should I have to tech ?! I’m not gonna reconstruct my mouse because it’s slightly wonky…
return it to nintendo for free or repair it yourself.
As soon as the first layer of rhe background apeared I got the doctor who reference
I feel sad for the people who didnt get it
The moral of the story is stop believing anything that's not officially announced. I teach my kids not to expect but to appreciate what we get.
I had no idea about the OLED model…
The moral of the story feels kinda weak this time, don't you think?
Thanks for the content
Shouldn't it be "The switch oled, or switch pro as it was formally known" 😅 I think you guys got it mixed up
Not really, they're suggesting the 'pro' was just the OLED model all along.
@@Zigzipy yeah I know but they got the order mixed up 😅
and that is why i hope/think nintendo will release an actual updated switch not just oled and memory ..... but a real performance update... more grunt bringing better frame rate and picture quality
So... other than a new stand on it's back and a bigger screen the only difference from the Switch V1 is that the Oled Switch has a longer battery life or what?
The biggest difference would probably be the OLED screen as the name implies. I imagine the batttery life to be not less or slightly less than the V2 model.
*Lillie wear Daphine / Velma outfit and giggle*
I guess that trying to switch thing up and tried to pull a new pro gamer they went oled…
Why improve something that isn’t broken.
I see you here and there a lot. Doubt you remember me
well until oled display on the new switch gets screen burn after a hour use use out of the box!
Remember how the DS-I had an SD card slot, shop and camera like the 3DS? I think this is the exact same situation and they're testing out a few features from the switch 2 that will be far better but won't sell as well due to all the little problems of the original souring original switch owners along with alternatives from other companies suckling up their market share.
This title definitely fits better than the first one.
That said, I'm pretty sure this isn't the end for the Switch... Not with all of the details like the new graphics chip and so on.
The OLED isn't the pro. Multiple reporters have said so and the files in 11.0 of the base switch mentions multiple features the OLED does not have
the moral of the story is. Marketing is not as easy as one thinks and with the constant leaks and rumors, it makes it hard for a company to keep their stocks intact and in a safe spot. We've seen this affect other game companies like capcom and it's constant game leaks. So knowing the truth doesn't always mean it's good and expectations are always hard to live up to.
PS: btw the new switch model is 50 bucks more then the original one. 50 more bucks, I can buy new joycons with that money cause they keep TOKYO DRIFTING LIKE THE 90's!!!
It is 1.5 as pro next year due to Chip shortage
i hate oled screens. they seriously give me the worst headache
Nintendo: *changes the screen and the battery*
Also Nintendo: *doesn't do anything about joycon drift*
Nintendo: "ok, that'll be $50 extra"
Nintendo is the only one of the big three which relies solely on their video game and video game hardware sales to stay profitable. Xbox has the giant cushion of Microsoft, and Playstation has other Sony electronics, Sony Pictures, etc. That's why traditionally, Nintendo models have always been underpowered compared to their competitors-- they have to make a profit from day one, while their competitors often sell at a loss just to get people in the door. There is zero incentive for Nintendo to make a more powerful model right now because 1) The hardcore gamers make up a much smaller proportion of their customer base than the other big two, and 2) As the console ages, their profit margins on the hardware increase, since the tech becomes cheaper to manufacture over time. This is especially true given that there's already a massive shortage for high end chips. The Switch is still selling very reliably, so there's no financial reason for them to make an upgrade.
If link’s awakening HD gets frequent and repeated frame drops, there’s no hope for nintendo’s sorry ass when botw2 drops next year
David Antennant turned into Matt Switch
Actually not new model in sense of new generation like PS4 to PS4 Pro or even PS5. More like XL version of 3DS in the past. Because more like same internal but different on the outside.
And still, after 3 model launch still didnt have enough money to buy that even for lite one.
That looks really amazing and outstanding looks much better than the normal switch so this must be the Nintendo switch pro but it's called Nintendo switch OLED model like I said looks much much better thank you Nintendo thank you for creating the new Nintendo switch from your biggest fan in the world Jamie. ❤ 🎮 😁 🎮 ❤
Not really...its the same thing
Yeah it's not the switch pro idk why everyone is getting their hopes up for a switch pro in their head this switch has EXACTLY THE SAME HARDWARE same cpu same red same everything as the regular switch the only new thing is the screen the kickstand and the dock it's still an amazing upgrade but It's not the pro if Nintendo were to do a pro it would need to be on the level of the Xbox and PlayStation with online chat systems and everything in my opinion
The switch Aula is the OLED switch
This is very interesting a new switch
Also known as Nintendo Switch : EMMI edition
Sadly We Don't Have Switch Pro Yet...
Switch(oled model) is just an option and its just similar to 3ds XL
Those leaks are hyping to much...
Now tell me why bdsp is doing the same
I can't Belive Nintendo Lied, What should I do?
They didn't. Bunch of BS'ers did and now they want to shift blame.
@@willcail TL DR, Just kidding It's Not Too Long, I did read it btw.
Oh Nintendo, just when you think their skulduggery can't get any worse
Nintendo didn't do anything wrong here. Companies announce products when they're ready to announce them; they have to responsibility to announce new products just because an interviewer asks about speculation and rumors.
This is not the switch pro everyone was talking about
Maybe the leakers did actually know that all that was is an oled screen but they lied for the clicks
0:06 shaggy?
No, they didn't lied.
Oh to have money to buy this model~
Welp either way, since its not a switch pro, it just means ill just get a switch lite like i was always going to
Yeah to get unfixable drift. Good job my guy
id say go og switch even if you wont use dock as much
@@lightning_jayy5513 personally knowing myself. I'm never gonna use my switch that much since I'm always gamimg on my PC and the lite is a cheaper option
@@manutdfan231 fair enough the sticks getting drift bother me tho
@@lightning_jayy5513 yea I'm really getting it for Pokemon, and Fire emblem and any other Jrpgs so that's really my main focus for getting a switch
The controllers need to be like Xbox controllers in terms of durability
You mean breaks in a day
couple week later steam deck was announce lol
I had no idea myself.
Never bought any Switch, don't plan to get one yet.
Then why are you even here?
This is like the perfect Switch for a not broke person
The only reason I have a switch lite is because I have a brother. Why pay 600 dollars when you can only pay 400
Well that plan didn't work lotta fans been holding holding back from buying just over the rumors
It's not a new model, it's just a better screen and sound.
And sound
@@cheeselad2401 And more internal storage....