Stuka Presentation Restoration
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- Hear the story behind the Junkers JU 87 R4 Stuka restoration in progress at the Flying Heritage & Combat Armor Museum from Senior Restoration and Maintenance Manager Jason Muszala. Photos shown at 2:35 and 2:55 were provided via Rune Rautio.
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I just want to hear the dive siren at an airshow. That is the single most distinctive sound of WW2 and its a shame there are not any flying JU 87s in existence at the moment. I have to watch old WW2 films to hear the sound that instilled fear in the hearts of millions across Europe and I feel that sound should not be lost to history.
Wasn`t long before those Stuka pilots were the ones with fear in their hearts ,was it.
Flying in that lumbering death trap when the Hurricanes were after `em.
Had to be withdrawn from the fight .
Then only used where there was total air superiority.... which pretty soon was nowhere.
@@billycaspersghost7528 True. The "D" models [--later versions just after this one ] had TWIN rear-gun machine guns, and at two different times, Rudel [--who could have switched to a ground-attack Henschel Hs-129 or Fw-190, and @ the end, Did fly the long-nose, Jumo-engined Fw-190D ] had rear-gunners that were So good, they themselves earned the Gold "Knight's-Cross of the Iron cross" defending Rudel's rear. How would you have liked going to see the Fuhrer, because you've earned a medal, and your rear gunner goes With you and gets an important medal, too? I mean, if you were a "Nazi-puke"? Each of his two best rear-gunners were lost after crashes, while trying to escape Soviet capture by ground forces. One was presumed shot, and the other drowned, nearly crossing a river, that Rudel successfully swam. The Battle of Britain, could've be won if they kept-up air-field attacks for a couple more weeks, rather than switching to bombing stupid London. I note the Italians "packed-it-up" with their "loser-aircraft", too after a while in the Battle. While Stuka could take a lot of punishment, they were "hurricane-meat", and I don't think any "Rustaz" twin rear-guns showed-up on the Ju-87Bs or "R"s. Flying to surrender in '45, Rudel broke the fixed landing-gear of his stuka, in a "controlled crash." He started, running his 1st ,training Stuka, into part of a building, while taxi-ing which almost "washed him out."
@@jackdale9831 when I was a boy many of bazillions of years ago, my uncles, WWII vets one and all, used to tell stories of the "howl" they made, but that it didn't last long as the Nazis air superiority was short-lived. all these years later to watch this and read here, it now makes sense. did American fighters ever engage with Stukas? Mustangs, Thunderbolts, Lightnings, etc...I spoke with a former german fighter pilot at an airshow 4 years ago and although he said as a whole they didn't have much to say for the others, but that British and American pilots and their aircraft and engaging with them definitely "made their pulse quicken." you ever hear this?
thanks for the info and the video.
@@billycaspersghost7528 actually, the Stuka was generally effective during 1939-42 in all theaters of WW2, where and when German fighters controlled the tac airspace. 1943-45, not so much....
@@davidluck1678 You said it.
But generally "effective" at what?
They had their part in the Blitzkriegs early phases of the war ,1939 on to 1940.
After that , pretty much had their day.
They were blasted out of the sky over Britain and it was not worth wasting escort fighters on them for what amounted to an insignificant bomb load.
They were tactical weapons in support of a sweeping army advance with the enemy in disarray and retreating.
I can`t think of them being a factor in any Allied thinking at all.
The Stuka had its moments ,1940 in the France, `41 in Crete and Russia maybe.
Outside that it was `30 concept in a new bigger war.
As a scale Modeler I would love to see a book created showing all of the details you are showing here. I think it would be a holy grail type of reference for all kinds of folks interested in the Stuka.
Whoa.... My grandfather flew one of these. Just imagine how cool it must have been. Thanks for posting this!!!
Ich kannte auch mal einen Stuka Pilot
My compliments to your granpa!
Congratulations for trying to restore, repair and use as many original parts as possible
Incredible video, incredible work. One of the most exciting aviation history projects in the world. Thanks for posting.
Hey! We used those press brakes a few years ago to make parts for a project I can't talk about! Neat to know that Stuka stringers came off the same presses!
Thank you so much for sharing your progress with us and especially thank you for restoring so many rare/extinct airplane types. Knowing how much work it takes to keep even small simple planes like Pipers & Cessnas in the air it is hard to imagine how much work, skill, money & time it takes to restore and operate rare & complex warbirds (even after this great in detail insight). It would be really cool if you would fly it in all of the paint schemes before applying the next coat and take air to air pictures with it. This way there would be photos of three "different" Stukas =)
Beeindruckend! Meinen größten Respekt!
The Ju 87 is a surprisingly large aircraft up close. It something that's struck me on my visits to the RAF museum in London.
Wow! It continues to amaze me that as time marches on even more obscure warbirds are being made airworthy again.
When I was a hanger rat at Duxford in the mid 80's you were lucky to see more than a handful of Warbirds at airshows.
Now we have virtually squadrons of them and long may it continue.
The interest is the key and they are part of our historical heritage and an important living breathing memorial.
Well done to all concerned. A remarkable effort.
@ Martin Planes
The Ju 87 isn't obscure. It is one of the most famous aircraft in history.
this is soooo cool!!! i love stukas. never thought i would see one fly again!!!
Amazing! Just flipping AMAZING!
I'm hoping that you publish a new video with many updates when the museum reopens soon. I would like to see the Stuka finished.
I've come here tonight to follow this with much thanks to Mikey McBryan of Buffalo Airways and PLANE SAVERS!! For the Live Stream posted this morning (local time) in South Australia. Today's date and local time is 16th of December 2019 at 22:00 hrs in Adelaide, South Australia. What an amazing video! You all are doing a fantastic job and I will definitely follow along and hope you all succeed!
What an amazing project !! I hope you can make a book out of the whole process. One thing which I don't understand, you say this to be Nr.: 6234, an early model, but the first picture of it shows it being a D-Model with the new engine cowling with the oil cooler placed under the engine, and the coolant raditors under the inner wings. The J Sub-version (to have been used with an intercooler in the D-Model) of the Jumo 211 engine was only introduced with the D-Model and had around 150 HP more than the F Sub-version being used in the early Bs and the early increased range R-models (capable to carry droptanks under the outer wings which the B-wings probably didn't support). As I understand you built a real early B/R-Model because the D-Model was designed structurally for drastically increased maximum loads.
I hope the whole dive-brake mechanism will be put in as well, so we can see some nice vertical dives from 6000 feet altitude at airshows, without bomb weights the accelerations should be no problem for the airframe (?)
great work! Thank you for highlighting this work of engineers which has made aviation evolve. And I would say, whatever the circumstances.
Looking forward to seeing this restoration. Favorite German aircraft.
I like what you are doing and the way she is going to look. Top notch.
Wow the amount of work that goes into this is just amazing !! Even as a 100% Mac user I have to admire Mr. Allens dedication 🙃
I hope that you will have a video of the Jumo engine testing sometime this summer.
I'm surprised they couldn't get more info from the RAF museum in UK. I understand that their Stuka has an engine that hasn't been touched since it last ran back in the late 1960s.
+ raytrevor1 The info depends on the sub-model of the engine series. According to Battle of Britain movie trivia, they did get the RAF Stuka running although I have never seen a picture or home movie of that. It was decided that it was took risky to fly it for the movie. Somebody restored a 211 to ground running condition way back in the 1980s but I don't know what happened to it. And Dirk Bende in Germany overhauled two 211s for a special project back in the 1990s, but that project has changed to new owners.
Great Job !!!!!!!
I don't get it. 13.690 views of a very well made presentation exactly announced in the title and only 290 people liked it? What more could you want???
I was volunteering at YAM Elvington in the 90s when their Halifax restoration was underway. People don't understand how difficult it is, even if you've got all the bits. One big challenge is perspex. My God is it hard. Finding a proper MK III blister was virtually impossible (other museums are helpful, but don't generally give you things) so the only option is to fabricate it, and thats when you learn just how hard it is to make optically clear curved perspex. Plus, as mentioned, restorations don't stop time, you have to maintain the aircraft _while_ you're restoring it; that involves managing corrosion and wear and tear.
I like this presentation & the JU-87 project very much! BRAVO..
As an aside, the speaker shares much with many of us Americans in the utterly overused & misused word UNIQUE. I know it's off the topic, but UNIQUE stands alone. Something is unique or it's not. Simple as that! Nothing can possibly be 'a bit unique' or 'very much unique' or "somewhat unique', etc. Please substitute UNIQUE with SPECIAL or EXTRAORDINARY, etc.
I hope You guys will succeed!
Stuka is greatest aircrafts ever created by man! Noting else comes close...
Yeh, tell that to a great great grand mother who survived countless Stuka attacks in her town in Hungray, and then had to survive Treblinka. She recently passed away at the age of 98.. Keep in mind, un like the ME-262 who fought other military armed vehicles, Hitler assigned the Stuka to specifically terrify and kill as many un armed, innocent civilians as possible. So please keep your Stuke enthusiasm to your self.
Huge and very slow aircraft just ask Heinz Rudel about that , he was shot down many times but miraculously survived , sometime the number 2 man did not made back to german Held areas .
Well actually, the Chicago Stuka had been down in decades. Back in the late 70s or thereabouts, when it was suspended even higher up in a dome next to the Spitfire, it let loose of its moorings and took the big plunge to the marble floor. They repaired it but it no longer had the wheel spats and you could still see some twist to the wings. I last saw her around 1998 so those things may have been restored since. Survivor of WW2 aerial combat, nearly killed in Chicago. That figures.
+daniel moran The Chicago Stuka was taken down for cleaning a couple of years ago and it was good opportunity to make 3D scans that were needed for the restoration project. I thought it would also be a good time to manufacture an extra set of spats and wheels to repair the damaged Chicago example, but I have not heard anything.
@@FiveCentsPlease What with the Covid mess and Chicago's hideous pension and general debt, it might be timely for someone to try and buy the Stuka from the museum. The museum is no doubt losing money and the current city administration probably has zero interest in preserving WW2 history, much less historic statues. Then this aircraft could be given a proper restoration. The motor is in the museum's possession also and was on separate display.
@@clevlandblock The Chicago Stuka is the only example still in the original WW2 paint, so I doubt it will ever change. The wheels and maybe gear struts are from a T6 after the damage from the fall. I think new ones can be made now if there is money. You know, it could be picked up by the Smithsonian now that you mention it. The intact Stuka in the UK has been repainted several times, the last time in the early 1970s.
The last time I was there you could see a large dent in a thick second floor aluminum guardrail that the Stuka wingtip slapped on its plunge to the floor. That must have broken the wing. I'd be interested too see if the museum could produce photos of the damage. It made all the Chicago TV news channels back then. It's a good thing the rocket scientists at the museum back then didn't try to suspend the U-505 from the building's ceiling.
@@clevlandblock I think someone has photos of the repairs or damage, jarring my memory a bit. It didn't fall from the ceiling but broke from the cables while the museum in the process of lowering it. How far it actually fell is unknown to me. The EAA organization made the repairs at the time.
VERDADEROS ARTISTAS QUIENES CONSTRUYERON EL SISTEMA DE REFRIGERACION DEL AVION STUKA
ADMIRABLES Y FELICITO AL GRUPO DE LA FOTOGRAFIA POR TAMAÑA OBRA DE ARTE / SI SON DE NUEVA ZELANDIA VIVA POR ELLOS SON MAGISTRALES...... BRAVO BRAVO POR ELLOS //
I have some parts of the jumo211 engine from the Junkers88-a4-drehzahlregler Gerat Nr. 9-9508 aircraft
I give you another ten years for build this Ju-87......
My long gone friend Fred would have loved this. Fred was a Luftwaffe pilot flying the Stuka from 1938 to his surrender to the Americans in 1945. He was a man of principals, like everyone who makes the oath to defend one's country. I'm a Vietnam vet of the Australian navy and understand principals. wonderful work!
Thanx for informative video--just wish I found it a year earlier! I'm now subscribed.
Just a couple questions. From my reading, you have in your R-4 quite a rare Stuka--one of only a very few of the B/R series with a Jumo 211J. Does that account for the VS11 prop, that is usually seen in the D-1/D-3 series (VS5 in B/R, VS111 in D-5/G)? And when painting airframe, to what extent were you able to duplicate RLM paint--the actual chemical formulation?
Thanx again. Very informative!
When will this be airworthy? Is there a set date?
+Dave NGauge Yes it is an airworthy project. Estimated complete in two to three years.
I just talked to one of the Flying Heritage volunteers today. He said they plan to have it flying by next summer (2020). The last components are being built in Hungary and when that's done it's all assembly and testing.
Dave NGauge I’m sure it’s years away. I m concerned that momentum may be lost with the passing of Paul Allen. His passion for restoring these artifacts will be difficult to replace,plus the financial wherewithal to complete it.
@@fw1421 The museum director says that Allen ensured the museum would function through his estate.
Anseldo Breda or Aermacchi could have some forgotten data about the JU.. The Italia planes where compared head to head with the German planes.
Are there any surviving pilots/mechanics? I didn’t hear reference but they may have some insight but if nothing else, I’m sure they’d love to follow this build.
+surlycrosscheck1 I'm sure that there are few old vets and factory workers around. The bigger challenge was missing or incomplete engineering specification documents and manuals to actually build one correctly. Some reverse-engineering from the example in Chicago was needed to get the data that they needed.
@@FiveCentsPlease Agreed but he mentioned some specifics such as "...how did the bomb sight function?" A veteran pilot would be invaluable in that regard. He also asked about nut and bolt specifics. I'm sure those that assembled the aircrafts and/or worked on them would probably be able to offer some valuable information and perhaps be yet another avenue for information. In the end, I don't care how they solve the problems or get info, I'm just happy they're taking this challenge head on and I can't wait to see it fly. It'll be epic.
@@FiveCentsPlease they stopped production in mid-1944, so I would imagine most are gone forever.
R-4? The factory-tropicalized version? Discovered in Africa?
+@robertmueller2023 It did leave the factory as an R-4 in North African colors, but it was taken and reallocated to the Eastern Front. So the restoration is recreating the factory paint, and the plan was to put the final layer of Eastern Front paint on it to recreate the spots of RLM 79 desert paint that would still be visible. This Stuka is using parts from two wrecks that were salvaged from Russia many years ago.
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How many kids today know what a Stuka is?
They don't know about Stalin either.
Even don't know. about Jesus , what can you expect. ?
@@andreshkt but stukas were real
can you please put out a video from the test runs of the jumo 211. really would like to her the 211 run.
+Kurt Ovesen The sub-contractor engine shop has recently said that they do not have permission to publish any video of the 211. The same shop will be testing a Jumo 213 later this year and hopefully the owner of that engine will permit some video of the test runs.
Any update of the rebuild?
+ Wayne Clayton The musem has a new owner, so wait for updates over the next several months.
@@FiveCentsPlease Great news 👍
lets see some updates please 2021
+ vrosi1963 On hold for the time being. Wait for new info.
What is the story of this aircraft? Why is it being painted in the wrong colors & markings?
+r..e. It's not the wrong colors. This Stuka W.Nr. 6324 left the factory in North African colors but it was reallocated to the Eastern Front to support efforts in Russia. So the intent is for the final layer of paint to be Eastern Front colors to reproduce all the paint in the history of the aircraft. It was shot down in April 1942 in the Murmansk area.
This restoration is attempting to use all original parts?
+Tony Romano There is a lot of new-build in this, but they are using the original parts that are serviceable.
@@FiveCentsPlease Amazing project, thanks!
God bless Paul Allen.
If it ever flies, can you for added realism, have a hurricane behind it shooting it to shit......just a thought.
Get that coofer a Ricola!
It won't that be long before the aircraft of ww2 are 100 years old
Bitte mit Jericho Sierenen, auch wenn sie zu diesem Modell nicht passen. 😉
You'll get some modeller from IPMS who way say, that's wrong, that's wrong. Just joking IPMS, I am one to and know they like the German stuff.
Please give it's original colours RLM 71/70/65 95% of Stukas wore these colours
+Chris Simmonds It will. The history of this aircraft was it left the factory as a model specifically for North Africa in desert colors. But it was reallocated to the Eastern Front. For authenticity they are recreating all of the layers of paint. You will see traces of desert tan around the stencils when done because the Eastern Front colors were hastily applied.
@ I haven't seen any photos of W.Nr. 5709 to confirm this. The crew bailed out and the plane was badly smashed when the wreck was found.
Seria bom , pouca conversa e mais apresentação.
Very good, Horrido.
That dude's coughing is insufferable...
You are exactly right. I think the dude is patient zero for the covid pandemic.
I'm sorry, this is NOT as "hard" as you're saying. If I had PLANS, one could be "fashioned, in flyable condition" in mere months, because you Don't need the original parts. A 3-D replicator can make the parts, in Better than original lightness & Strength. You also should NOT build the R-4 or any early model, because the greatest damage to the Soviets [--I understand this example was used in the desert/Mediterranean theatre, against the Western Allies] came from "D" models mounting the twin 37mm. Rudel's "D" was reportedly "worth" a couple of divisions, what with over 500+ Soviet tanks destroyed by he alone. The highest-decorated German Soldier of the war, and an "Ace", Hans Ulrich Rudel also had at least two Knight's cross of the Iron-cross rear-gunner/radiomen, which probably allowed him to return home, so many times. Also many Stukas were modified via what were called "Rustaz" [in the field] mods. Were you going to make a "Dobbas" aerodynamic collapsible freight/tool container? Will you make "Waffenbehalter"--machine-gun canisters that enhanced strafing? If flown, will it have operable "Jerico's Trumpet" sirens? OF COURSE, it will have operating dive-brakes?!? Some Noble, Jewish-workers built some of these if manufactured in the Junkers plant @ Dessau. The cheif differences between "B"s and "R"s were increased wing fuel-tankage and improved radios in the "R"s, beyond line improvements. If made flyable, I can garantee it will crash, which is why your building it with original-parts is reprehensible. You should build it as if it had to EXCEED its design parameters, because Then, it'd last longer and more could see it and Wonder, --underlying your good efforts. Perhaps not, if, Not flown @ 9/10ths as the Stukas in the field were flown. Some day, wealthy-pilots will gather dozens of these together,[--3-D Replicas ] and fly re-inactment-"missions", Mark my words. Oh, I forgot,--the Economy will be collapsed to Soothe Bil gHATES, so we have to "bend-over" to Big, Pig,-Pharma and its poisonous vaccines, due to the drum-beat FRAUD of Fauci & Pharma-OWNED media. The munitions wouldn't be real, but the shots will be, plus a part of our being Controlled. Our Noble Trump's only a figurehead, now--watch as his Exec-orders become more & more Globalist,--less & less Constitutional... You have been told... by Jek Silberstein
+Jack Dale "Plans" are not the same as correct engineering specifications for the materials and airframe strength, which would be found in original factory drawings (missing for most Stuka types) or carefully reverse-engineered. This rebuild used a little of both. A model kit can be manufactured from "plans." You need to meet the engineering standards for flight certification. Try to picture thousands of pages of documents. Plus you have an equally (if not more) complicated problem set to get an engine built and certified. Several groups are currently solving a similar problem for the Hawker Typhoon/Tempest series. With partial drawings and 3D scans of a survivor they are having to engineer much of the plane to correct standard using thousands of data points.
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@@FiveCentsPlease The engine should be among the EASIEST parts to gather together. Other than the Rolls-Royce "kestrel" in the prototypes, and the Ju-87A[had a Ju 210], ALL Stukas had a version of the Junkers Jumo 211. Many Ju-88s had 211s,--the "H"-model Heinkle He 111s used 211s, --even some Focke-Wulf Fw 190Ds had a development of the 211, the 213, --thousands of Luftwaffe planes used the Jumo 211, throughout the war. If the "R" was mine, I'd fit the similar 213 for more power. No one would know, except I think it'd be safer with more power. I fail to understand why some techs want to "draw a curtain of mystery" around a "run-of-the-mill" dive-bomber,--an improved version of the early Ju-87Bs. IT IS "WONDERFUL" that ANY Stuka's being rebuilt to flying specs--that's AWESOME, and long, long overdue. I was a kid of 6 or 7, and as a kid,--I loved All planes. I had a "Lindberg" model of a Ju-87B, and was thinking of the "Jericho trumpet" mounted early in the war. We were at a company picnic, where some of the workers had been bombed/strafed by Stukas. A Ryan monoplane with wheel spats flew overhead, and only guessing what kind of plane it was, I yelled, "Dad, Dad,--a Stuka!" I couldn't understand until years later, why some co-workers quickly ducked-under the solid oak picnic tables, and my Father got VERY ANGRY. This was slightly more than 10 yrs after the war.
@@jackdale9831 What Jason Muszala is saying throughout the whole video is that the standards of the museum are so high for their flying aircraft that the restoration is focused on a particular version and, in this case, a specific airframe. What you say about making an "improved" Stuka restoration is very plausible since it would rectify issues and offer improvements to the original, but such an airplane would not represent any Stuka ever made. Imagine having a Toyota Corolla with the engine from a 1999, the transmission from a 2004, and the doors and hood from a 2002. If your insurance asked what year and make your Corolla is, you wouldn't give a straight answer for the year. You know it's a Corolla, but it's not any Corolla that was ever produced. Same logic goes for the museum's Stuka restoration. It cannot be a Stuka with the wings of a D model, the landing gear of a G, the engine of an R, and so forth.
Going back to the Corolla example, imagine how hard it would be to make a Corolla with parts from Corollas from various different years of production. Many lines and connections wouldn't fit and would be very hard to make roadworthy. Imagine doing the same thing with an airplane. The Bf-109 was made under license in Spain by Hispano Aviation and it took years of experimentation and several versions with different engine and propeller combinations to yield a fine airplane, the HA-1112, several of which are flying today and called Bf-109s even though they have a Merlin engine. However, no Bf-109 flew with a Merlin.
So, for what it's worth, the Stuka restoration done by Jason and associates is absolutely fantastic, and the video session vividly depicts the resuscitation of a one-of-a-kind airplane. WELL DONE!
@@Jazzdrummerperson Yaweh [God] Love Ya, phantom5420. By the way, you probably already Know that a "phantom" in hot-rodding, is a version of a car that we feel SHOULD have been produced, but for whatever reason, never was. A BF-109 airframe WAS mated to a Jumo 211/3 after the war by the Czech firm Avia. {Avia S199 } The IDF bought several, and Israel's 1st air victory was made over an Egyptian flying a Spitfire[IX? ] of the Egyptian Air Farce. I think the Avia is in an Israeli museum. I'd LOVE a Corolla with a melange of the Best parts, and I'd go by what is on the "Title." I don't give a crap about the insurance, although maybe you'd have to go with a "Collector-car Insurer." Finally, as long as it was "air-worthy", the Luftwaffe pilots wouldn't have CARED either, because as the war wound-on, pilots would have to wait, like car salesmen, for their "up" to fly. That's how a novice could be flying an "Expertan's plane, and if it was shot-down, the Allied airman might have thought he was REALLY "Something", shooting-down "So-n-so's" plane. It is rumored that I sat in the cockpit of the Midland, Texas HA-1112, but of Course, I didn't. If I Had, I would have found that the cockpit coming pinched my shoulders and looking through the windshield through the bullet-proof glass was about the size of a 4" x 6" card. Check-out that some versions of the Ju-88 "Wunderbomber" had BMW-built but liscenced Pratt & Whitney air-cooled radials if it wasn't using the liquid-cooled, V-12 Jumo 211s. By being meticulous, the museum's doing a Superior restoration.
Jesus Christ what an incoherent rambling
PLEASE TAKE NOTE: A good friend and survivor of the holocaust (who recently past away at 98 yrs of age), used to tell us horror stories about the whine of the Stuka sirens when they would attack her small town in Hungary.
I think it would be best to keep your restoration project low key just like they did with the recent restoration of the ME-262 here near Seattle. Don't get me wrong, I'm a total WW-II plane nut, but now is not the right time to be tooting your horn about your Stuka restoration project and putting it on CZcams and other Media. Keep in mind, the Stuka (unlike the ME-262) was specifically developed to Terrify and kill innocent people. People like my friend who survived many Stuka attacks. Restoring a Stuka is like proudly restoring an oven from Treblinka. So please, tone it down a bit... Thank You, Sincerely, Dan Sotelo Mercer Island, WA