Shin Bison: The Ultimate Final Boss
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- čas přidán 30. 06. 2024
- Shin Bison appears in several Street Fighter games. Although unlockable in SFA3, in order to explore his moveset and combos in the other games, hacks have to be used. Ended up being a ton of work but It was way more fun than I thought it would be to test out combos with an unplayable 'boss' character.
I managed to get an action replay code set-up for EX2 but for EX3, after many hours of failure I found the following mod...
www.romhacking.net/hacks/4574/
So shout out to its creator, John.
A random bit of extra info. To the best of my knowledge there was no version of alpha 3 that had access to both Shin Bison and the ability to do crouch cancels. After much research the solution was Hyper Street Fighter Alpha, a game that includes Shin Bison as a playable character and a hidden dip switch menu that allows you to put crouch cancels back into the game. So the combo clips that include crouch cancelling are all from HSFA.
Music is 'Flash Train' from Street Fighter EX.
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0:00 - SFA3
2:46 - SFEX2
5:31 - SFEX3
7:24 - SF: Movie - Hry
You have been killing it and bringing my childhood out with these videos
damn straight
Have you ever beaten Shin Bison? EX2 and 3 look the toughest.
Go fight Shin Garuda in EX PLUS Alpha. I wanna see him drive you crazy.
@@shindukess We got to contact Maximilian for future "Boss Rage" videos.
@@wdcain1 I've been asking him to rage on Shin Garuda.
Legend says that Bison is at his Strongest when fought on a Tuesday, since it Is his favorite day of the week, he very much prefers to fight with all his power on such an occasion.
So strong, Desk had to upload it on a Monday.
… but it was Tuesday somewhere in the world.
I heard he's even stronger when it's happy hour on Tuesday
🤣🤣🤣 few will understand
*tuesday arrives*
Bison: GAME OVER!
In my country lord bison visted us on a tuesday
loving these consistent uploads and the dives into these relatively unexplored characters from these older games. Especially the EX series in this video, which I feel is super underrated. I'd love to see a video on that era of SF alone
Thanks so much. I'm really enjoying covering info/details on characters/games but also with 'combo video' style clips in there too. Super happy that anyone else gets anything out of them! Appreciate the comment.
Can you please tell me how to play as shin Bison. I've been trying for years. Desk is official with all he content
@@deskcombo desh please let me know
@Insanity Hannity that's a brand new contra code🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
@Insanity Hannity 🤣🤣🤣
It is clear that EX3 Shin Bipson is, without a doubt, the Best Bipson.
Best Bipson is scary bipson, I wouldn't wanna meat this guy on a tuesday.
Bison*
Yes I know what I said.
Don’t forget capcom vs snk bison. Although not “shin” still very powerful
He was the ultimate input reader, I use to test this as a kid by tapping mp full screen and the moment I do he would raw super, its very cheat.
Lmao I see what you did there 😂
@7:36 if only Raul Julia (actor who played M. Bison in the Street Fighter Movie) really came back to life like in the final boss scene in the video game... 😢
The final entry is not Shin Bison. That is Shin Raul Julia 👍
It's even more powerful, since he is forever alive in our hearts.
Shin Gomez
OF COURSE!
@@Whienzarth 😂
When you found yourself dominated by Bison's awesome power, it was the most important day of your life. For me?
It was Tuesday
I faced Shin Bison many times in alpha 3 to the point i know all of his moves and how the ai works, the best example is this 1:20. Whenever Bison perform head press, he will immediately use Final Psycho Crusher. Another one is that whenever he crouches, he'll perform a Psycho shot (fireball) and if it hits, he will combo to either Final Psycho Crusher or Double Knee Press. The most common thing he do is that classic combo, crouch medium kick + Double Knee Press
Yeah, his AI was easy to exploit after awhile. It made it so you could begin dazing him with any character because you knew when he would be open.
What I do is be super defensive until he does head press in final psycho crusher. Only punish when it's absolutely safe. Usually when he's crouching for a psycho ball I jump heavy kick into a combo. I haven't lost to him in an arcade run since then
The EX series is extremely underrated in terms of gameplay, sountrack and animation.
I don't know about underrated, the first two games were received relatively well, the second one so much so that it saw a re-release and second print run, undervalued now maybe, overlooked for sure.
Yea because other sf games at the time were better. Ex was fun but not serious enough.
I loved doing the combos too unlock characters though i couldn't actually do all of them
Shinji Hosoe's OST for EX series still unmatched. GOAT
The bass on those tracks, jesus christ
@Charles Hastings Guile's theme bass has my heart. Have you heard the youtube covers?
golden work
Absolutely
good call! such good music
"For you, the day Bison graced your screen with a showcase of his strongest variant was the most important day of your life. But for me, it was Tuesday..."
This was amazing. Grew up with the EX series, Shin Bison was by far my favorite hidden Boss.
There are lots of custom modification on street fighter EX2 plus you can watch my Channel
i am a causal sf player and shin bison in alpha 3 is literally my worst nightmare
oh and him reading inputs really makes me angry, he punishes you with his super for _whiffing a light normal_
once he gets his meter, you kinda have to play super defensive until he gets impatient and "wastes" while you are blocking (which still does a good chunk of chip damage lol)
edit: my point is that shin bison in alpha 3 feels so much harder than the other arcade bosses on medium difficulties
(with the exception of sf2, I absolutely suck at all variations of sf2 and could never beat bison without save states there
And I have never gotten to Gill in sf3 because I suck)
TRUTH
He always does a super after the jumping blue hand move if he has meter, always.
@@josemanoeltavaresfilho3693 oh, he does? thank you very much, I will remember that!
It's more infuriating when he uses the imput right after you start up a move or have the advantage only to snatch victory away with his ultimate psycho crusher.
You can bait him to use his super by jump kicking backwards as well. If he lands in a corner after you block the super, you can punish him for it. You can jump over his fireball and punish him as well, it does run the risk of not blocking in time for the super.
love this kinda stuff. makes me wonder what other wacky shit we could have found if these games had a longer competitive life cycle.
My favourite character, my favourite boss, my favourite CZcams channel
Thank you Desk, as always
Can't understand why people have favorite bosses. It's like picking whether you'd like to have salt or lemon juice in your wound.
As if the ordinary Bison/Vega weren't frustrating enough.
Why not full screen psycho crusher lol can it be countered? I did kick bison to win with a dee jay counter to the regular psycho crusher in ultra street fighter 2.
Dictator is pretty honest in Super Turbo, Boxer is the king of caveman gameplan.
@@anon3631 i don't think they were referring to boxer when they said bison
I always wondered what was the criteria in EX2 in order to fight Shin Bison. It just randomly happened to me, and I was like: "holy sh*t, It's White Bison"
Even though he is not the hardest boss I ever faced, he's the hardest Capcom boss for sure.
Fun fact: in the console versions (at least the PSP version) of Street Fighter alpha 3 you can continue if you lose against Shin Bison, but the catch that his AI is much harder than the arcade version, so yeah you will feel his Psycho power when he destroys you.
Shin Mr Karate is pretty deadly.
GBA version as well
Alpha 3 Shin Bison can be a cheap input reading bastard alright, but over the years he's become rather predictable and usually telegraphs when he's about to do his super. He also spends a lot of time crouching to fire off a psycho shot lol
Ah. The music brings back such pleasant memories. Nice to be reminded once again how well the soundtrack of _Street Fighter EX_ still holds up beyond the songs I already have on my phone.
Fond memories of the _EX_ series aside, however, the Shin Bison of that series is *such* bullshit that he's basically one of the worst "SNK Boss" boss characters Capcom has ever made. I have literally never managed to beat him compared to the cake walk that is _SFA3_ Shin Bison's who more obviously reads your inputs. Those Psycho Cannon supers coupled with infinite meter usually ended up just chipping me to death even when I did well. Seeing everything he can do with them now makes me feel better about those losses, so thanks, Desk.
I love SFEX games. It’s basically Nishitani looking back at the SF series and showing the new guys some directions and guidances.
Nishitani's vision for a "next gen" SF gameplay (next gen for the early 90s, post SF2)
The input-reading Psycho Crusher super still haunts me to this day.
Excellent work, love your channel and videos 🤘
Even went into Street Fighter The Movie the game. Leaving no stone unturned.
This truly put a big smile on my face :D thanks man
Shoutouts to the SFEX music. Arika had some of the best soundtracks in SF history.
Flash Train was a great bgm for this 👍 Thank you desk 🙏
Nice touch with music from the EX series 👍
Street fighter ex3 on ps2 was literally my favourite street fighter game for so many of my younger years. Makes me happy to see it get some love with showcasing shin bison.
love these kinds of videos
Love your work desk!
Great showcase
I remember doing the world tour challenges on street fighter alpha 3. Fighting Shin Bison was so BS. Getting anti air'd, whiff punished, and "hard read" by that super still scars me to this day 😂
He's not too hard to beat once you learn his attack patterns. Learning to play safe until he uses his meter is key.
They need to bring back Bison (on a Tuesday) in SF6! It's just not Street Fighter without him
Truly... he's the staple OG villain.
I didn't realize losing against Shin Bison in Alpha 3 meant you couldn't continue. I only ever played in save states, and today on the plane I said "ok, you know what, I'm going to beat the arcade mode as Cammy, no save states" and got to the final boss... only to see all my hard work crumble
There exists a "skip to final boss" cheat code for a reason. Light Punch + Medium Kick + Heavy Punch + Start when you select your ISM brings you right there. That's how I got to keep retrying my go at Bison.
The best version of bison is the animated movie version, as it influenced his look up until today.
??? How if street fighter 2 and a few iterations where released before the animated manga movie????
@@thelastheraldofmarvelcomic1981 I didn't say 2, obviously. Alpha and afterwards, that's when bison became the short stocky version. Also Sagat became alot bigger than his skinny sf2 counterpart
Thanks for the excellent work as usual Desk. Watching the evil that is Shin Bison in A3 gave me Vietnam flashbacks. If you're looking for a game that's niche, check out Dual Blades/ Slashers which was once for the GBA, it's really unique and has many interesting exploits.
Fantastic video ❤
Great video!
that ultimate psycho crusher had me swearing like a sailor when i was a kid
Super Bison in SFtM is only fought in the secret tag-team mode. He can use his special moves in the air, his jumping heavy kick is a slide, Psycho Crusher knocks down, and his specials require less charge time than regular Bison (as shown if you use cheats to play as him). Using his light High Knee Press (negative edge Double Knee Press) in the air causes him to slide forward indefinitely, leaving him stuck in that state until hit out of it.
You get a Like JUST for using Flash Train. That track from EX2 is unbelievably sick. I was so mad that FEXL never included it in the final release.
Which version of Flash Train is it? I think it's the original EX2, but the one I found is a bit different I think
@@nebiyuesayas5600 This is the original arcade version versus the PSX arranged version.
The version used in this video was the same one used as the character select screen during the FEXL beta.
@@tokyobassist oh nice, ty
Great video, would love to see a video on the difference between regular Balrog and ex Balrog from the alpha 3 none Vanilla versions, I think the ex Balrog had the same shadaloo meter as Bison as well when you played as him.
For you, it's another great video from great desk, for him it was just tuesday.
Desk I would love to see a vlog video from you one day bro or a video of how you got into fighting games.
I remember beating BS Bison with his inf meter when I was younger, never had so much pride in a moment other than doing 100+ hit finishers in the Killer Instinct games.
Love seeing the treatment my man desk putting on EX series currently.
My man shin bison is returning in SF6 as true final boss in arcade/story mode just to kick our asses.
Good video Desk :)
We don't know yet but hopefully
Those EX3 combos were SPICY
great job desk
When that EX music blasts through your phone!! 😭💜
Great vid
A Bison video that's posted on a Tuesday(at least in my timezone).... Desk you clever madman.
Also I didn't know Raul Julia had a second form 😲. I hope in the next video it's gonna be about CVS2's Grooves and the games they more or less are akin to.
Hi desk, great video!
Regarding shin Bison from zero 3, there are some instances where he is more prone to throw the final psycho crusher : after the air stomp / sky dive, after a teleport, or after crouching for some time.
About ex2's shin bison, from what I remember by playing ex 2 plus on PS1, there are conditions to meet in order to fight him (if I'm not mistaken, you can't lose a battle, and fighting either Kairi or shadow Geist beforehand also increases the chances of fighting shin bison).
And as Guile once said in the SF US cartoon :"BIIISOOOOONNNNN!!!"
I loved EX2, I think it's sad that it doesn't get much recognition, it was a great game, a lot of fun, interesting characters!
I have cheesed the bastard with V-ism Cody. For those who dont know, V-ism Cody can naturally dodge if you guard. So I had no fear from chip damage as long as I am as crazy careful as Goblin Slayer. And not greedy.
EX has hands down some of the best music in gaming history jheezzee
Man Shin Bison in SFA3 drove me mad back in the day...
lol. until ya get his patterns down. it was amazing to see that shin psycho crusher for the first time tho.
this is the most epic bison boss fight in SF history...
the stage and especially the ost goes well with the heat of that battle.
Hmph weak
Last night, I had a dream where I was at a wrestling event where Alpha Dictator just came down the catwalk, and I grabbed his cape, punched him in the back, then proceeded to have a fight with him, as my normal ass self. Despite me playing a lot of SFV the last few days, I'm quite certain I only had that dream because of watching this video.
Anyway, keep up the great work. Its really inspiring (especially in my dreams, I guess).
From the moment I saw SF EX and Infinite meter I knew this was going to be awesome.
If you are still taking any ideas for videos, how about doing combos for the infamous fighting game Bloodstorm?
It would be really cool if you did a look at weird fighting game bosses like Vold Ignatio from Fighting Layer (Not Fighting Ex Layer). Or take a look at the different iterations of Omega Rugal
I still remember the time on one of my Alpha 3 playthrpughs I managed to wall jump over the Final Psycho Crusher as Guy by sheer luck
The EX version of Bison is still my favorite. That kick throw was a beast and the variations of the psycho cannon is awesome. SF V Bison got close.
1:45 I've played Alpha 3 enough time to know that Bison ALWAYS does Psycho Crusher immediately after that fake stomp into Palm Attack, try it, play against Bison and just keep on guarding the whole time, notice how after that Palm Strike a Psycho Crusher follows
SFA3 Shin Bison is the epitome of don't whiff
That Alpha 3 Ultimate Crusher haunts my goddamned nightmares. I had to use save states, i just couldn't do it all over again if i lost. Even then it felt like i was recording my own rudimentary TAS just to beat that bastard lmao
Great documentary for all the iterations of boss Bisons! (and the effort to make them playable!)
Can you also explain how Bison2 works for EX3? He is the playable version of EX2 Shin Bison but in EX3?
And will you include the "Ghost Bison" in SFV Extra Battle too?
SF5 had Phantom Bison and Shin Bison Extra Battles.
@Wilson Nascimento So he is just the EX3 True Bison shown in the video without infinite meter? What other buffs does True Bison has actually
@@ouranos0101 Aren't them the same? The one with white costume
@@evilvg4 One had a white costume and one was transparent like a ghost.
Shin Bison in the movie? I dont believe! Nice!
Shin Bison is so freaken cool!
Not gonna lie, the aesthetics of SFEX3's twin psycho cannon look really damn cool. I never got to saw Shin Bison in that since I was never good enough at the game.
Love the effort you put in every video! I wanted to ask, how familiar are you with Skullgirls 2nd Encore?
G*d damn that EX2 soundtrack was a beast.
Chun Li's intro at 0:25 reminded me of Deebo in Friday. Shin Bison was like "Yeah... put the gun down son... and get KNOCKED OUT like ya father used to!"
The input reading in Shin Bison can make him glitch too, at least in the SFA3 console version, if you simply do standing punch repeatedly he will always duck and throw a fireball, creating a good opportunity. It's also easy to guess when he's about to do his psycho chrusher, usually after that with falling palm attack like 1:46
When I faced Shin Bison in Alpha 3 Max, I was struggling really bad a first but I noticed that there are times that he would be crouching for a few seconds and I realized he won’t block your attacks there so I assumed he was like charging for a special attack but it was his most vulnerable part and its the perfect time to attack and also, there’s also a pattern on when he’ll pull off the super psycho crusher, usually he does it after doing a long hop/jump from a long distance.
Was heart broken the 1st time i lost to shin bison & learned that you had to start from the beginning 😪 that man was op af lol rightfully so thats what made him a unique boss tho.
sf ex2 plus was my first Street fighter game, It reminds me of childhood
Nice vid, are there any other bosses u would talk about?
love your content keep uploading! my content was similar in a way but with crapy editing
4:26 EX2 biso super cancelling into orb to keep the juggle going is so swagged out
For you, the day you saw this Shin Bison video by desk was the most important day in your life.
But for me… It was Tuesday (and it is in my timezone today actually haha).
bonus round with Raul Julia, what a boss!
Alpha 3 Shin Bison has S-Ism (Shadaloo) which why his Super Bar automatically refills
Bison’s laugh during his scissor kick in Ex + always makes me laugh. “Hoohaha…”
Awesome
Ex3 was ahead of its time. There was a mode where you could unlock different moves for characters. I forgot what it was called but you had to do some challenges to unlock them.
Street Fighter EX3 was far from the first to do this
I find the random outer space K.O. screens hilarious.
1:47 This specific instance, Shin Bison isn't reading your moves. If he has full meter, when he does the devil's reverse, he always does super immediately afterwards. I usually play slow to get this situation to happen, preferably with my back to the corner. After he burns his meter, you get a free counter hit when he teleports back on the screen and you can play more aggressively at this point since he doesn't have meter.
00:40 that transition from A3 with A2's Z. 1 million hours in MS Paint.
alpha/zero 3 bison is the most morally correct thing to use savestates on in existence
his unique ism is called "shadaloo-ism" (look it up, i'm not wrong)
it's actually a shared ism for boss characters that gives them their boss properties if they have any
Also just wanted to point out a few extras:
The scissor kick super from the EX series was only ever seen again in CvS series (And I think also CFE as well).
Also looking at the evolution of his projectiles the fireball super was also in the Marvel/X-Men Vs series also.
Its a shame Bison didn't retain his boss status in more games including SF5 and he probably won't be in SF6, despite being Street Fighter's version of Orochimaru lol
I think Bison constant revival was before Naruto. Also KOF had Orochi as a god before Naruto, he revives and reincarnates too.
thx 4 t video
Always wondered what Bison says at the intro screen for the EX games
imho sure im hearing the SF EX Shin Bison theme and its great in its own right but his Alpha/Zero 3 Theme is far more Menacing and fitting for a darn good reason
that 50% psycho crusher hurt me as a kid
That psycho crusher. If you’re in the air. It’s over.
Gave you the 500th like but not on a Tuesday because I main Sagat.
That shin bison in alpha 3 ain't no joke
This is what SFV's story mode final boss should've been.
ken's winning pose after he kills bison wrapped me up 🤣🤣🤣