SCARY! Nissan Skyline R34 - NO ABS, NO TC, Sequential RWD. // Nürburgring
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I love co-pilot's face like "oh kid you have so much to learn, in my old days ABS didn't exist...."
HAHAHAHA So good...So funny
Neither did power steering 😂 my arms was like mischas when learning to drive now not so much 😂
in his previous life, he was a cold lizard
Heart rate 60
MI car have 0 assistan.. no abs, no tc no nothing... 300 Nm... 185cv.. 915kg.. Love Ibizas XDD :)
The owner of this car looks like a driver instructor 😂😂
his face talk "this driver must learn how to drive with no abs"
I thought it was jean claude van damme😊
And I think he was very confused when he was changing up so early
He makes me think of the Zootopia Sloth Flash Slothmore
@@coskunpower given that the company is based in belgium, i wouldn't be too surprised if it ACTUALLY is him 😂
This is what happens when I set up a car on GT7.
What the hell is shock rebound rate 🗣️🗣️🗣️
@@Syncopiadon’t you just move the slider all the way to the right?😂😂
@@sharkpower100 I'm finding it's not so easy as the older games where all you needed to annhialate everything was a skyline with max hp and silly tall gearing 😂 it's good that it's a bit more realistic now of course
I NEVER touch suspension or gear ratios. Makes cars do weird stuff unless you somehow know exactly which combination of seemingly infinite variables will actually work. I'd much rather *drive* the car to its full (well balanced stock) potential
"Sport suspension" and "racing brakes" is usually good enough if you significantly increased HP on a car
Would love to see the co pilot do a lap, assuming he drives the car as well. Dude seems like a badass haha
The lazy, eye and drunken look… that man can drive.
@@fxuiBunta
@@Naneychevelu HAHAHAHA
It looked like an absolute punishment to drive that car. With 0 reward. Anything below 4th gear it didn't like.
The gear ratio is unpleasantly low imo….
Destroys the whole car….
It looks utterly horrendous, I went faster in most parts in my old FK2 and I'm terrible, I also didn't have whiplash when I finished
Says the guy with a Mustang for a picture 😂😂😂
@@mynamegeoff7135 what's wrong with my Shelby have you dirven one?
@@mynamegeoff7135 mustangs are great lol, not everyone is a crowd killer
For the interested folks, this car has been for sale for over a year! (I'm not the owner)
Current price sits at €40K, but it started out at €90K. And seeing how this car drives, the drop in asking price is the reason why.
Considering the amount of work needed to get it back to something resembling a decent car even 40 seems too much.
I'll buy it for 10$ but you ship it here
It looks like they took out everything that made the R34 an advanced driving machine and reverted it back to a basic RWD car with uncontrollable power. The only R34 thing about it are the engine and how it looks.
@@ikt32it's probably based off of a gt25-t given that it has a rb25 and is rwd. You've got to realise not every skyline is a Gtr, the base models were commonly used as taxis.
it was probably a GTT so RWD from factory but no ABS? just why @@ikt32
Verdict: Big Drama but no speed. This car needs a lot of work.
Meh. Some just like the experience and don't care too much about the efficiency. Though I somewhat agree that both could probably be combined better..
@@stoneehi mean it's a skyline r34 not some old car that isn't made for this
@@stoneeh Yeah, but the car has big problems when the rear locks up under even light braking. I'm surprised Misha didn't pull over and refuse to drive the car any more due to it being too dangerous.
that was just the balance set wrong. they fixed that with the switch @@jimbobmcgee
On the shop's intagram it is said that she has arround 500 bhp
I guess it wasn't the same map used in this video (I hope so)
I love how the elderly gentleman slowly puts his spectacles on, slowly puts them back then tells misha to go 😂
Special X Ray glasses, he could see right trough the dash and firewall into the engine and see it was ready to go again 😂
I think at 8:11 he actually said "maybe slow down a little, it's getting too hot" (after putting on his glasses to check the gauges) and after that he probably said "slow" instead of "go" but his hand movement was likely misleading and Misha understood "go" ("go?"; "yeah").
Communication really is an issue with such loud cars... :o :D (sounds cool though)
seems like a nightmare to drive
Lmao why? Learn how to drive.
@@user-uu9oy5wp8l Did you watch the video? What do you think Misha has to learn to make this car nice to drive?
@@user-uu9oy5wp8lIts not the same like you driving your vw Polo in traffic
@@user-uu9oy5wp8l you jdm dickriders will back anything. misha has driven plenty of cars with sequential transmissions, no abs, and no tc. he has plenty of experience on the ring. and yet the car was completely fighting against him the entire time. brakes locking, transmission seemed clunky, the gear ratios were bad, everything about it was bad and that has nothing to do with the driver.
he obviously can't drive
This car is definitely one that a driver needs time to get used to. Misha likely didn't get anything other than a basic introduction to where everything is in the car before gong out to do that lap, and you could see the difference throughout it as he slowly got used to it. I think the pause where he slowed due to the oil temp warning gave him time to let everything so far sink in, as he was notably smoother afterwards.
I got the impression that the co-pilot was curious to see how Misha would adapt to such an unfamiliar and unforgiving car. It was definitely built and developed by a more old school driver that loves that raw visceral experience when driving, where you need to be "in tune" with the car to really get the most out of it.
I did help for the built and the development and you are totally right ! that's an older pro driver that helped us 👌🏻
As a senior ABS calibration engineer, I LOVE when people say they don't need ABS because their foot is more skilled.. lol
I’m of the same opinion as you, ABS is so good now and rarely interferes in the cars you wouldn’t want it to so WHY NOT HAVE IT?! Alright yes I’ve had some close calls myself with it but not any more close than the ones I’ve had without it. It makes the car a pleasure to drive which this is severely lacking. In the end it’s not more skilful to not have abs it’s more stupid.
ABS vs non ABS is like a manual gearbox vs an auto but in the non ABS there's no advantage but the scachy experience but it will definitely tell who the better driver when 2 people challenge each other for a prise
An early ABS system like what these would have had would have no idea what to do in the rain and snow tbf. On dry tarmac still a great thing to have.
@@commentmachine1 If you have a build like this, you surely have an aftermarket ECU which you can program it into. Maybe not automatic, but you could switch between snow ABS, rain ABS and dry ABS with your aftermarket infotainment or something like that. No ABS makes no sense.
top levels of motorsport dont need it, and they are the most talented drivers in the world. Not sure your point is valid. Any driver worth their salt can manage fine without it
6:54 that gt3rs was starting to scare me lol
LMFAO 🤣
fr bro drive like he's the only one on the track
That curb bump could easily take them booth out, the red Porsche was really lucky.
I'd LOVE to see the passenger/owner do a lap. His facial expressions, or lack there of, makes me believe he has a completely different "style" of driving that monster, that would make 95% of others contemplate why one would be involved in racing!!! ;-)
Lol when the comment section is more upset of the cars performance than Misha..
Love the passengers stone face in one of the most sketchiest feeling laps I've seen on this channel!
Passenger sentenced Misha to 3 weeks in the gulag after this drive. 😂😂
I'm not talking about the drive but the amount of sounds and noise this car is producing is just astonishing. I love that.
Straight cut gears and no lift shifts are a hero's soundtrack.
What a mess.. 😅
i want to see how the owner drives this car!
He drives it in reverse 😂
Probably like shit.
proceeds to shit his pants on the first turn.. lol ;) That gear box woke up and chose violence.
You could heart the tires chirping on downshifts. And clutch crunching on upshifts. Apparently clutch pedal was necessary. Weird car and weird owner for not pointing out its (possibly dangerous) quirks before the lap
that's one chill co driver!
He has seen things 👀
his face talk everything "you have a lot to learn how to drive wtih no abs"
aka cold lizard
@@RewolutionPL stop whit the nonsense kid,Misha knows how to drive whitout ABS.
First time ever seeing the co pilot not be impressed with mochas driving 😅
The drunken stare, he can definitely drive 😂😂
More like disappointed 😂
That looked like a really hard to drive car? Would have loved to hear you thoughts at the end of the lap.
Maybe thats why there was no verdict at the end because there was nothing good to say 🤷 looked proper sketchy and looks like it was misfiring at the end of the lap.
@@Stis206trackdaysthe car didnt look like it was set up right?
Short, to-the-point intro, zero chat during the drive and no cool-down debrief. That to me says it all, he didn't enjoy this drive.
@Jonathanbaker no didn't look the best also looked like it was on ad08rs tyres and they're the worst track day tyre I've ever tried. Don't know why people rate them. I had a set fitted and went to local track day, lasted 45 mins before I went home to change them. Brake bias was all over the place too but again could also be down to the plastic tyres. Proper brown pants moment at the first braking zone 😬
Usually that means Misha was NOT impressed. When he is impressed he tends to give his opinion on the car, how it feels, what it needs, etc, so with it cutting short I'm sure he didn't exactly have fun driving this car 😂
They way he took his glasses at 8:00 is funny.
But the car is a handful by the looks of it. The emotion of the rb and blow off valve is an epic one.
Sequential gearboxes are really shit to drive. Most of the time you see them still use the clutch and heal and toe on downshifting. Otherwise they lock up like this in the video.
Yeah it seems that would have helped, no 2020s auto-rev-matching going on here. To an extent that Misha deliberately stayed in high gears where he would have downshifted on a manual or trustworthy automatic gearbox.
yeah, if he had rev matched or if rev match had been programmed into the ECU, there would have been much less lockup from the rear
Yeah, you got to clutch them down and self blip.
Sequential gearboxes aren’t some magical thing. They’re just the fastest manual transmission type, but you still have to match the revs on up and down shifts.
@@indiebekonn I thought they just cut out ignition/throttle appropriately.
Many early day sequential and dogboxes require heeltoe and clutch like any manual car, only flat upshifts, so i dont know why many people complain about it, of course the rear also locks if you downshift two gears fast with higher rpms. Maybe too used to tech assisted gearboxes? At least this car was raw and true to drive with no modern day driving assists.
Exactly the purpose of the car 😉 you got it right
Exactly. Ain’t no modern assists in this thing. All driver work
120 oil temp is nothing, 140c is where I used to have mine set at on my 34GTR (500awkw)
It was my coolant that needed the most attention. RB's especially with twin turbos don't like to get the exhaust out very easily and I suspect this could be going on here. That was a big MAP pressure for the power it looked to be pumping out. Drive pressure issues are a serious thing to consider in a turbo track car, is crucial to get this right.
That guy ain’t afraid of death
That guy is death!
Probably married for many years
Death fled a long time ago !
6:55 Woof, That was close...
Bark!
#Facts
Nigel farage looks fucking happy there 😂
haha the grumpy englishman
He just pissed and needs a cigarette
Nigel Farage is this country's only hope. Vote Reform UK!
I expected this face 🗿from someone with this kind of build, but i dint expect it to need an oil cooling upgrade.
No cooling is missing in the title.
Cars obviously had a lot of coin thrown at it but it needs dialling massively
you right there ....
what it actually needs is...crushing!🤣@@Jonathanbaker
Yeah, looks like a collection of race parts randomly thrown together for the bling with little thought about the big picture. Removing some stuff in this case could actually help, starting with whatever rear brakes are on.
Looks to have fuel pressure issues too, can’t keep up with demand.
Lot of potential but a lot of work needed!
This looks like a new RACING driver not following his instructor orders Samir....You're breaking the car 🤣🤣
Samir LISTEN TO ME! Dude thanks for the laugh, great comment
Passenger was ready to teach you a thing or two, by the look on his face 🤣
Need more cars like this on ye ol channel please.
Definitely looked a bit of a handful, hard to say what it was down to , understeer properly down to no front aero to compensate for the rear wing ……. And castor / camber/ spring rate or maybe it just needed a set of slicks .
Still good viewing though. 👍
Been waiting for this since the r32 video ages ago. Ty Misha
The owner is really not impressed, but boy this thing sounds so gorgeous! Blow-off valves, gearbox whine ... love it !!
Would love to hear the debrief on this one, Misha.
на секвенталке нужно как и на обычной машине со сцепление и перегазовкой понижаться, обороты она сама не подкинет, поэтому и блочит колеса. Поправте если я ошибся.
Wow ! A sharp refresher on cadence braking right at the start ❤
I really enjoyed how you were constantly fighting with the car :))
This looked like an enjoyable challenge lap! My '97 EK hatch doesn't have ABS and I prefer it in that model. Modern ABS is amazing though and doesn't interfere. 👍😎🇦🇺
Pretty much this, old 90s cars abs especially with different brakes and wheel sizes makes the stock abs pretty average at best
Even thought it’s kinda slow, and there is no assist whatsoever, it seems hella fun to drive :)
the sound of the RB & Sequential, music to my ears
So this is where Gran Turismo got all their sound clips from for the first 20 years 😂
Lol
Thats how straight cut gears sound like, buddy.
I think the brown flag was out on that entire lap, I would have had a heart attack on the first turn
That 5th gear 1:1 is so satifying!
Yeah man. This is the kind of motor right up my alley. Looks like a lot of fun. Owner giving me Initial D dad vibes.
The car seams unhappy driving cautiously the car liked being more closer to redline shifting. but that rear end with that transmission and no abs ik can ba scary
Doesn't look like the most pleasant drive. I'm sure there is plenty of opportunity for refinement in the pacakage
Doesn't look like a very confidence-inspiring drive. And I don't mean that as criticism, more like there is a lot to process when driving this car, including the mad gearbox that sounds as if you throw a wrench into the cogs.
Amazing driving dude, shit looks like a handful and a half and you still brought it home 💯💯 seriously man good job.
The footwork and wheelwork to keep on the road...Great skills Misha
Buddy has the facial expression of waiting for the coffee to finish brewing on a Monday morning in the office.
The passenger didn't seem to care much about sliding out... either old and ready to die or fine getting a check for it if u crashed it hahaha, great content misha
Love how you hop in any car and full send 🔥
That thing is violent! 👍 i love it.
Co-driver looks like he's been dead for a few years but doesn't know it. Car seems to have the wrong tyres, or they need more temperature. Downshift seems to block the rear-wheels everytime. Could become a great car, but it needs a lot of work and finetuning.
I think Misha and owner had fight before video😂
Well that looked an absolute misery to drive. Brake balance out, also locking rear wheels on down shifts - should it have a rev match as you use the sequential?
that would require you to use the clutch and the throttle under braking, destroying the purpose of the sequential box 😅
@@bjvink0130Google 'auto blipper'.
It doesn't need to be like this.
@@bjvink0130well there are sequential gearboxes out there where you need to blip the throttle on downshifts.
He probably should have used the clutch/gas when downshifting.
@@sp33dou but its a sequential
Que buen video!! El auto inmanejable, el copiloto. El mejor video
That thing looks like it was multiple hand fulls and possibly a pants full to drive.
Seems like a bunch of parts thrown together without tunning them up properly? Or maybe it was tuned for a certain track, but not the Nurburgring?
that was a hand full, great stuff thanks.
that expression at 6:32, hahaha, was thinking the same.
LMFAO 🤣
This kid is as smooth as sandpaper
All the lock ups and owner didn't even blink. Wat is goin on??
No blanks, and he didnt blink either 😄
@frontwing67 ohhh you got me! Smh
Amazing drive.. co pilot was 😂 misha really powered through.. great skill.
Makes great sounds!
Hector Salamanca from breaking bad ?
that name rings a bell
Hector Salamanca from BB taking Misha's driving test Scary!
Grand Moff Tarkin from Star Wars too! LoL
Even my 2009 type r has bugger aids you can feel everything and we love it.
Awersome lap! Bravo Misha!
Yes the car looks rough to drive, I wonder if some of it is down to Misha being soo use modern cars with abs and tc. Some guys like the rear bias to rotate into corners easier but definitely needs some setup changes because that thing scary. On a positive note the drivetrain seems pretty tough.
So,
- the brake seems to bite too much
- the powerband seems to come very late
- redline is surprisingly low for a RB engine
- I'm not entirely sure about the suspension setting
...I think it can be better.
Richtig coole Sache!!! Das wollen wir sehen!
Just needs an engine tune. Not setup for a kicker (auto-blip), so blipping on downshifts would help settle it down a lot like in my H pattern dogbox and it has a giant hole in the tune so it kept cutting out or loading up when transitioning off and on throttle
yép ça ! ça fait peur , et Gérard Darmon , il bronche pas d'un sourcil !
Je sais pas si je boirais un whisky avec 🤔
Let Misha do its job !
"If you have nothing good to say, don't say anything".
The end of the video says it all. Personally, i've obviously not driven the car, but that didn't look fun. Not necessarily dangerous (the rear locking up was a setting, not a general flaw), but at times very understeery, downshifts look and sound awful etc.
Wouldn't be for me, this car. I like "drama" in the car by added noise and the car "making me work for it", but there's a limit to that, and this one is way past that.
The shifting sounds bad because mescha is not matching revs. Which is a must on a sequential gear box. He needs to learn heel n toe
I love the way the owner told Misha to “go”! That is a confidence building move!
When he calmly pulls out his reading glasses to check the temp and tells Misha to keep pushing... I knew the rest of the video wouldn't disappoint. That was a visceral experience just watching can't imagine the drive. Way to tame that beast.
Have a good weekend Misha 👍🏻
misha thanks for ur clean contant i want to ask do RWD sometimes feel better than AWD ?
Definitely seems like a real wild beast to handle. Seems you were figuring it out just as the oil temp light came on. What a challenge !!
This gave me serious flashbacks. I had an RX7 s2 that always locked the rears despite much bias tweaking. You forget how much ABS helps!
Means your rear brakes were too much in general.Proportioning valves are for fine tuning trail braking behavior, they won't fix an unbalanced system.
The first time he hit the brakes and realized the raw feeling of no ABS 😳 in a video game, it’s different because racing without ABS is needed. IRL it’s the scariest feeling because you get used to the computers assisting your driving and then once you understand how much computers assist you in driving, most people come to realization they are not good drivers. I had a damn near heart attack the first time I experienced no ABS going too fast.
Yeah, getting to know the car's limit safely is the best thing to do, that gives you a frame of reference.
The problem in the first breaking zone was the rear locking due to bad brake balance, not due to Misha's skill
Not a longtime follower here. But I think this is the first time where I've see Misha in a vehicle that he doesn't have a complete handle on. what a drive.
I literally have the same car same setup. Except passing MOT might be difficult. But if I can get it done Misha I want you to Ring it!
Racing car overheats in one lap? No freaking way!
The oil temp wrong is quite low... 120c is not hot.
That car is very dengerous to drive 🚨
That's where all the fun is
*It must be so exciting/scary/thrilling driving so many different cars same track. This skyline is a raw-dawg beasttt*
The passenger (owner?) looks like a french guy that has seen it all in his life already, i’m even surprised he isn’t smoking a cigar and holding a glass of whisky in his hand 😂. Reminds me of jacques in the movie « finding nemo » 😂
Fuel pressure loss up top i think is the problem drops off like a hookahs pants haha
what a shed
The co-pilot expression is just so troll!! He's like "wtf, you said you're a race car driver...not impressed!" 😂
PERFEKT
This is a real car, no cheat mods added.
Imagine spending all that money to buy a really good car, than spend another god knows how much only to find you have created a bag of shit.
Honestly the last 20seconds of this video gave me goosebumps. Need more GO laps
Holy i did not expect that! :D
btw nice combo at 6:08 :D
nice!
#Facts
Last time i heard those noises i required a new washing machine...