She did technically NOT raise the shields fast enough. The Enterprise would've been critically damaged. Happens before this clip, when they're still beaming survivors aboard from the planet.
I love how everyone who assumed command in TNG had a different command style. Data's is reserved, careful, and methodical, yet curious, in line, not only with his Android mind, but his actual personality. Dr. Crusher is quick-witted, but willing to take some extreme risks, easy enough to discern why from her intellect and past. Riker is bold and tactical, but in no way above guile. He's always out to do what's best for his crew, including outright going to a work camp for life to save them (see DS9 where Riker's transporter clone did exactly that). Picard is diplomatic, almost never firing first and often continuing attempts to hail even after being fired upon.
I agree with your assesment there. I will have to say about Data, though, that his glaring weakness is a certain inability and sometimes downright negligence to communicate his plans in a matter that puts his crew at ease... even though I've learned to trust that his plan will always involve the survival of the entire crew. What I always loved was Picard's resourcefulness even outside his comfort zone - with children, for instance. And while looks shouldn't really matter, at first glance he does not strike you as someone whom you mess with at your own risk - which is something, I'm sure, the likes of Worf and Riker have had to learn, luckily not the hard way. Crusher has always had it in her to bring in the thunder when need be. The same never occurs to me about Troi, who only in her later years, showed some guts. Could talk about these guys for ages, though.
@@scottredding7357 I loved when LaForge had command in season 1, very much like Crusher which is why I think they are a good pair. He used the full capabilities of the ship and crew, he separated the saucer, used the atmosphere of a planet to reveal a target, put confidence in new members of the crew and he also refused to give up command to a superior officer which I also love.
Dr Bev is not just a first-class medical doctor and scientist, but she is also a well-skilled tactical and commanding officer. We saw her talent again during the "Picard" finale when she blasted those torpedoes to destroy the last known "big bad" Borg cube 😊😍
This was one of my favorite scenes in the episode. Dr. Crusher marches onto the bridge with her science and support crew, sets the facts over feelings standard, and kicks ass doing it.
I always remembered "Suspicions" for being one of the rare episodes where Crusher got to show some real personality, I'd forgotten that she actually uses that research just a few episodes later! Nice little continuity there.
@@kevinslater4126 Yep. Which also followed up after Troi's "Disaster". Finally started giving continuous character development to the characters in the last few seasons haha.
But remember, too, she asks how long they can survive in the sun's corona. She should already know that. And the guy who played Barnaby was the one who played Jo-brill in Suspicions, so there is no hidden connection with saying that Barnaby looks like Jo-Brill without makeup on.
Ha! Imagine if that had gone wrong. The story would become a legend. "So, the Dr took command of the ship, and at the first sign of trouble, flew it directly into the nearest star, incinerating the ship and entire crew!"
@@kurtsnyder4752 yes, in "all good things" however it wasn't a well armed ship and they needed the Enterprise to rescue them, however, I was suggesting giving her a class that could defend itself against Klingons, Romulans, Jem'Hadar etc. Plus with all that interior space on a Galaxy-class it's perfect for a hospital ship.
@@michealoceallaigh4716 Well, in real life the Hope isn't armed with even a spitball shooter so it couldn't even take on a few men in a Zodiac with a couple of AK47s. That being said, a Galaxy class is positively HUGE, see a youtube vid about whether Enterprise is big enough; equivalent space of 3oo 30' rvs is big, not to mention the secondary hull space where cargo and shuttles are, though these would be like ambulances i suppose.
Honestly, I was slightly surprised that the 'Pasteur' was armed *at all*, considering the tradition of medical facilities being explicitly non-combatant. I suppose they would need minimal weapons to deal with space debris that could pose a threat to them, and shields for defense.
0:12 I don't believe that they would know off hand the headings in their head to know where they are/where the various astronomical bodies are. It's incredible that they could do this on the fly.
I'm not sure how effective they are in combat. A phased ionic pulse can trigger a malfunction that can cause tetryon radiation buildup in the ship. That said, metaphasic shields did show up in Voyager.
This is one of the few times TNG did a callback to a new technology that was in a previous episode. Most of the time, that stuff vanished without ever being heard about again (just like metaphasic shielding after this episode.) It's nice they actually called back to it and used it to escape here.
Would’ve been good to have Barnaby and Taitt as two of Beverly ( then Picard)’s senior officers on the Pasteur in ‘All Good Things’- then back with everyone on the future Enterprise D.
In factional if the enterprise was that close the sun would blind all aboard with a white superheated light and death,no shielding device would work at 12,000 kelvins.But or more depending on the mass of the star,the ship would be Ash,even from a 5 mile radius your dead.
*[FUN FACT]: James Horan (Lt Barnaby) also voiced Devastator Sergeant Avitus in "Warhammer 40,000: Dawn of War 2" and its standalone expansion, "Chaos Rising".*
Fun fact: he also fought dr. Crusher in the episode "Suspicions". He played the primary antagonist in that episode and Crusher phasered him in the end. There is a little wink to that episode when she's talking about meta-phasic shielding.
I like that they used technology from a previous season. I kinda wished they did this with other technologies. Doesn’t have to be a major part of the plot, just a change in daily procedure that changes the texture. Like the exocomps. It would be interesting if the next TNG season they were introduced and just became another tool for the most part like the tricorder.
Paul Simon lyrics via SmashMouth's may as well walk on the sun? No, I would not give you false hope On this strange and mournful day But the mother and child reunion Is only a motion away Oh, little darling of mine I can't for the life of me Remember a sadder day I know they say let it be But it just don't work out that way And the course of a lifetime runs Over and over again Fush Yu Mang
Hold up. Mnsr. Carnot wants to know where all that thermal energy dissipated to. Plot ARMOR deploy! Lol, the excess thermal energy is routed through the SIF waveguide network, and concentrated as ionizing polaron energy packets, which is discharged as a wide dispersion theta band emission from the ventral deflector dish debris management sub-shield emitters. The SIF uses the unique properties of tritanium and microfoamed duranium , one of which is the ability to capture energy in the infrared and thermal bands, and convert it into static/tonic current wave forms via metal ion/ isohalogenate compounding catalytic reactions. Basically like a solar cell, but using heat energy. When the metaphasic shields came on line, the excess incoming thermal energy from the corona was shunted, and the hull plating and subsequent system tie ins were able to convert and radiate the millions of kelvins back into space. yes, there wasn't a gradient to disperse to, but if they were in motion, a fractional heat loss dispersion would conceivably occur.
Gaming Videos in Starfleet both male & female commanding officers are referred to as sir except for Captain Kathryn Janeway on Star Trek Voyager hated being addressed as sir & preferred to be addressed as captain. She did say ma’am was ok in a crunch.
I don't understand how the ship's medical doctor would ever be placed in charge of a large vessel. Was McCoy ever placed in charge of the Enterprise in the original Star Trek. Would the chief medical doctor of an aircraft carrier or destroyer or submarine ever be placed in charge of it? I don't think so. Different skill sets.
Crusher holds the rank of commander and has passed the bridge officer's test, not to mention her many years of service working closely with Starfleet's finest captain in Picard. She's eminently qualified as the episode demonstrates. Picard would not leave the Enterprise with her if he didn't trust her.
@@kurtsnyder4752 The hospital ship Hope is not currently a USN ship but I did look up the captain of the USNS Consolation, which is in service with the US Navy. The current captain of the ship does have a background as a medical doctor. Note, though, that commanding an unarmed hospital ship is quite different in nature than commanding a destroyer or attack submarine or an aircraft carrier, all of which are vessels designed for warfare and need captains who are trained for warfare.
Not sure if Gates McFadden or Marina Sirtis should win the award for the worst acting in TNG - most were bad but they were both truly awful, Patrick Stewart in comparison was on another planet (he was brilliant).
Troi takes the helm TWICE, crashes the Enterprise both times. Crusher takes command, destroys an advanced Borg ship
And she does it again in "Picard" series finale as well 😉
Troi redeemed herself in ST Picard, didn’t wreck anything. Crusher? Two for two with Borg ships.
She did technically NOT raise the shields fast enough. The Enterprise would've been critically damaged. Happens before this clip, when they're still beaming survivors aboard from the planet.
I love how everyone who assumed command in TNG had a different command style.
Data's is reserved, careful, and methodical, yet curious, in line, not only with his Android mind, but his actual personality.
Dr. Crusher is quick-witted, but willing to take some extreme risks, easy enough to discern why from her intellect and past.
Riker is bold and tactical, but in no way above guile. He's always out to do what's best for his crew, including outright going to a work camp for life to save them (see DS9 where Riker's transporter clone did exactly that).
Picard is diplomatic, almost never firing first and often continuing attempts to hail even after being fired upon.
I agree with your assesment there. I will have to say about Data, though, that his glaring weakness is a certain inability and sometimes downright negligence to communicate his plans in a matter that puts his crew at ease... even though I've learned to trust that his plan will always involve the survival of the entire crew.
What I always loved was Picard's resourcefulness even outside his comfort zone - with children, for instance. And while looks shouldn't really matter, at first glance he does not strike you as someone whom you mess with at your own risk - which is something, I'm sure, the likes of Worf and Riker have had to learn, luckily not the hard way.
Crusher has always had it in her to bring in the thunder when need be. The same never occurs to me about Troi, who only in her later years, showed some guts.
Could talk about these guys for ages, though.
And Laforge?
@@scottredding7357 And Deanna Troi.
@@scottredding7357 I loved when LaForge had command in season 1, very much like Crusher which is why I think they are a good pair. He used the full capabilities of the ship and crew, he separated the saucer, used the atmosphere of a planet to reveal a target, put confidence in new members of the crew and he also refused to give up command to a superior officer which I also love.
Ah yes, the Crusher Maneuver.
Dr Bev is not just a first-class medical doctor and scientist, but she is also a well-skilled tactical and commanding officer. We saw her talent again during the "Picard" finale when she blasted those torpedoes to destroy the last known "big bad" Borg cube 😊😍
Dr Crusher… Borg Slayer. 😁
We know... we've been there all along the way.
I love how her previous interactions tie so well into her command style and tactical commands.
This was one of my favorite scenes in the episode. Dr. Crusher marches onto the bridge with her science and support crew, sets the facts over feelings standard, and kicks ass doing it.
She didn't earn the rank of Commander for nothing :D
Eww
I always remembered "Suspicions" for being one of the rare episodes where Crusher got to show some real personality, I'd forgotten that she actually uses that research just a few episodes later! Nice little continuity there.
And this episode comes up later when Troi is deciding whether to take command class and asks Dr Crusher why she did herself despite being a doctor.
And the actor playing the tactical officer also played the alien who killed the Ferengi scientist
@@kevinslater4126 Yep. Which also followed up after Troi's "Disaster". Finally started giving continuous character development to the characters in the last few seasons haha.
But remember, too, she asks how long they can survive in the sun's corona. She should already know that. And the guy who played Barnaby was the one who played Jo-brill in Suspicions, so there is no hidden connection with saying that Barnaby looks like Jo-Brill without makeup on.
I like it when she fights the Klingon scientist. They don't call her Crusher for nothing.
Bev was good on the bridge and looked great doing so.
I met her today. So amazing. What a truly elegant and sophisticated woman. Hearing your voice talk to me and say my name was mind blowing.
Ha! Imagine if that had gone wrong. The story would become a legend. "So, the Dr took command of the ship, and at the first sign of trouble, flew it directly into the nearest star, incinerating the ship and entire crew!"
LMAO
And instead, it's likely a success story, and proof that Picard was right to have her in the chain of command
It's like Geordi taking the star drive section into an atmosphere to reveal a cloaked ship... Or the Picard maneuver.
No guts, no glory
She denied the Borg their prize. The Klingons would hail her as a hero XD
and now, you would hear the incels cry "woke!!" because the ship was commanded by a woman.
No need to worry. Beverly knows what she's doing.
Interesting note; James Horan (the male lieutenant) is also in the earlier episode Suspicions, and his character is killed by Dr. Crusher
*He is also one of the best voice actors out there (my favorite being Wheeljack from "Transformers: Prime").*
Good
@@Brettbren and grayson in highlander season 1. duncan´s first difficult challenge in the series.
I hope in the "Star Trek: Picard" era Beverly got her own Galaxy-class hospital conversion ship, or some class that could hold it's own.
In an alternate timeline she did command one, the "Pasteur" if I recall correctly.Think it was the final episode.
@@kurtsnyder4752 yes, in "all good things" however it wasn't a well armed ship and they needed the Enterprise to rescue them, however, I was suggesting giving her a class that could defend itself against Klingons, Romulans, Jem'Hadar etc. Plus with all that interior space on a Galaxy-class it's perfect for a hospital ship.
@@michealoceallaigh4716 Well, in real life the Hope isn't armed with even a spitball shooter so it couldn't even take on a few men in a Zodiac with a couple of AK47s. That being said, a Galaxy class is positively HUGE, see a youtube vid about whether Enterprise is big enough; equivalent space of 3oo 30' rvs is big, not to mention the secondary hull space where cargo and shuttles are, though these would be like ambulances i suppose.
@@kurtsnyder4752 okay, give her a feckin' Sovereign-class, Íosa Chríost, you can't please some people!
Honestly, I was slightly surprised that the 'Pasteur' was armed *at all*, considering the tradition of medical facilities being explicitly non-combatant. I suppose they would need minimal weapons to deal with space debris that could pose a threat to them, and shields for defense.
I liked Lt. Barnaby and Ensign Taitt. It's a shame we never got to see more of them.
STNG greatest weakness was it's lack of a good supporting cast.
Remember the episode in TAS where Uhura takes command of the Enterprise?
HEY! Lets make the doctor the captain of the ship! Doidiy doodey dooo.
Taitt turned to soon to complain about the course toward the sun.
The Borg were very accommodating, they should've continued rapid fire before the Enterprise even reached the sun.
0:12 I don't believe that they would know off hand the headings in their head to know where they are/where the various astronomical bodies are. It's incredible that they could do this on the fly.
Never understood why they didn't use the metaphysic shields again
I'm not sure how effective they are in combat. A phased ionic pulse can trigger a malfunction that can cause tetryon radiation buildup in the ship. That said, metaphasic shields did show up in Voyager.
@@3Rayfire Only a Star Trek fan would give an answer like that.
Well done
Probably not to rely on it as a plot crutch.
@@johnsalvi2273 True, but once you introduce it, you can't go back.
Might be REAL touchy to maintain, maybe got kinda lucky the thing came online correctly. A fraction of a hair off and instant vaporization.
This is one of the few times TNG did a callback to a new technology that was in a previous episode. Most of the time, that stuff vanished without ever being heard about again (just like metaphasic shielding after this episode.) It's nice they actually called back to it and used it to escape here.
If they could win this fight by the amount of blush the crew has on their cheeks, they would own this s***
Doc Crusher is major babeage.
Commander Babeage.
Would’ve been good to have Barnaby and Taitt as two of Beverly ( then Picard)’s senior officers on the Pasteur in ‘All Good Things’- then back with everyone on the future Enterprise D.
In factional if the enterprise was that close the sun would blind all aboard with a white superheated light and death,no shielding device would work at 12,000 kelvins.But or more depending on the mass of the star,the ship would be Ash,even from a 5 mile radius your dead.
Big Red. All the time, every time
if only they used this technology against the Dominion
*[FUN FACT]: James Horan (Lt Barnaby) also voiced Devastator Sergeant Avitus in "Warhammer 40,000: Dawn of War 2" and its standalone expansion, "Chaos Rising".*
Fun fact: he also fought dr. Crusher in the episode "Suspicions". He played the primary antagonist in that episode and Crusher phasered him in the end. There is a little wink to that episode when she's talking about meta-phasic shielding.
I like that they used technology from a previous season.
I kinda wished they did this with other technologies. Doesn’t have to be a major part of the plot, just a change in daily procedure that changes the texture.
Like the exocomps. It would be interesting if the next TNG season they were introduced and just became another tool for the most part like the tricorder.
Someone has to put the Descent suite on youtube.
Paul Simon lyrics via SmashMouth's may as well walk on the sun?
No, I would not give you false hope
On this strange and mournful day
But the mother and child reunion
Is only a motion away
Oh, little darling of mine
I can't for the life of me
Remember a sadder day
I know they say let it be
But it just don't work out that way
And the course of a lifetime runs
Over and over again
Fush Yu Mang
Black girl was pretty
Hold up. Mnsr. Carnot wants to know where all that thermal energy dissipated to. Plot ARMOR deploy! Lol, the excess thermal energy is routed through the SIF waveguide network, and concentrated as ionizing polaron energy packets, which is discharged as a wide dispersion theta band emission from the ventral deflector dish debris management sub-shield emitters. The SIF uses the unique properties of tritanium and microfoamed duranium , one of which is the ability to capture energy in the infrared and thermal bands, and convert it into static/tonic current wave forms via metal ion/ isohalogenate compounding catalytic reactions. Basically like a solar cell, but using heat energy. When the metaphasic shields came on line, the excess incoming thermal energy from the corona was shunted, and the hull plating and subsequent system tie ins were able to convert and radiate the millions of kelvins back into space. yes, there wasn't a gradient to disperse to, but if they were in motion, a fractional heat loss dispersion would conceivably occur.
Can we acknowledge that they kept calling her sir?
In US Navy parlance, whoever is in command of a ship is referred to as sir while they are in command, regardless of their actual rank.
@@SweetBearCub they wouldn't call a female mam though?
Gaming Videos in Starfleet both male & female commanding officers are referred to as sir except for Captain Kathryn Janeway on Star Trek Voyager hated being addressed as sir & preferred to be addressed as captain. She did say ma’am was ok in a crunch.
This was actually addressed straightforward in DS9, when Nog had to be taught to call Dax ‘sir’ when she was in command of Defiant.
A sailor here. Yeah sir is standard, though Ma'am actually is acceptable. I've sir'ed and ma'am'ed female officers in my time.
I don't understand how the ship's medical doctor would ever be placed in charge of a large vessel. Was McCoy ever placed in charge of the Enterprise in the original Star Trek. Would the chief medical doctor of an aircraft carrier or destroyer or submarine ever be placed in charge of it? I don't think so. Different skill sets.
Crusher holds the rank of commander and has passed the bridge officer's test, not to mention her many years of service working closely with Starfleet's finest captain in Picard. She's eminently qualified as the episode demonstrates. Picard would not leave the Enterprise with her if he didn't trust her.
Wonder if in real life if the Captain of the hospital ship Hope is also a doctor?
@@kurtsnyder4752 The hospital ship Hope is not currently a USN ship but I did look up the captain of the USNS Consolation, which is in service with the US Navy. The current captain of the ship does have a background as a medical doctor.
Note, though, that commanding an unarmed hospital ship is quite different in nature than commanding a destroyer or attack submarine or an aircraft carrier, all of which are vessels designed for warfare and need captains who are trained for warfare.
@@samuelweir5985 none of them are space ships either, though piracy is a real danger. The medical supplies would be a target for theft.
0:20 why is the crew member callin' her *Sir?*
Naval tradition (which Starfleet is based on) dictates that anyone in command of a ship is called "Sir", regardless of their sex or rank.
@@SweetBearCub,
Thanx for puttin' Me on Game. I have been Enlightened.
Janeway didn’t. Like it I seem to remember rightly
"All stop" - next to a star, i.e. massive gravity well? Don't think so... maybe standard orbit would do?
Relative stop to further progression
Sir??
Naval tradition.
Yes, what is it ensign?
@@jerodast Nothing, as SweetBearCub already answered my question, sir.
So stupid that they call Crusher "Sir." She is a woman. There is nothing derogatory about feminine references.
I feel all the current interest in Dr. Crusher is just a McFADden.
Oh to go within the pearly Gates,*sigh*.
Not sure if Gates McFadden or Marina Sirtis should win the award for the worst acting in TNG - most were bad but they were both truly awful, Patrick Stewart in comparison was on another planet (he was brilliant).
you are high as fuck,go lay down
@@williamb5403 you sure showed me with your eloquent rebuttal.
@@kashaidBUTTal😂.
Dr. crusher was so freaking hot
you might like her from the muppets take manhattan (1984)