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How you a grown man and let another grown man kick you with no repercussions? Someone would've been off the team that day
He did it to the struggling kicker like a coward. That man was worried about his job security and livelihood.
Facts ima man first before anything I'm sorry but I would've lost my job that day forget talking straight action
He targeted a struggling kicker trying to make the team. If he went up to anyone else, he'd have had his clock cleaned
Tell me what other jobs there are for kickers
There are repercussions. He bided his time and got Urban Meyer fired. Been holding that card close to his vest for months, watching Meyer hang himself over and over... then he pounced.
Personally I feel the same as you, if someone strikes me they're gonna get something back *real* quick. But some people are just more patient and strike back differently. "Revenge is a dish best served cold."
If he feels he can do it to professional players and coaches and a professional organization... Imagine what he was doing with the college players and coaches who were under his control before. Yes, winning can mask everything BUT that's about it, masking what's rotten and evil. Any college/university who takes this guy for the next head coach of their program should think otherwise.
Whatever he did with those colleges teams it got them to play better than they actually were. 🤷 being a good person is not a prerequisite for these jobs.
Amen
@@marlymarlle So its ok to do this to college kids????? This why i had a problem with the college basketball coach who got in the players face for making a mistake a couple years ago.. The coach yelled the kid tho heated said ok coach and the coach comes back and gets nose to nose with the kid... If that kid had laid that coach out the kid would of been killed in the media... But let that had been an NBA player and a coach did that the coach would of been killed and talking heads would be wondering when that coach would be fired...SMH ppl should know rules and standards should be applied equally cuz when they are not thats exactly how you get Urban Meyer types thinking they can do whatever whenever
@@wessideATL1 I don't what he did and I didn't say it was ok. But w.e it was, it got Tim Tebow a Heisman and Dwayne Haskins drafted in the 1st rd. 🤷
Antonino Romulo Del Carmen, To your point. I bet there is a lot of abusive college coaches in football and basketball. Many sports have abusive coaches. And I think college students suck it up because of their vulnerable status as students. If Urban Meyer is doing this in his first year as a professional NFL coach think about what must have happen on the college level. If walls could talk.
Wow. Louis Riddick's indictment and assessment of Meyer was eloquent, concise, and totally on point.
Louis Riddick is the best commentator in sports.
@@kevinkline7242 I like j will and acho too Kellerman is good too
Yup Louis Riddick is great
The future 30 for 30 for this is going to be good, really good!!
Lol. The amount of disfunction this guy was able to produce in 4 months was impressive
It’s not even worth making a 30 for 30 lol
@@thomashenry794 13 for 13
@@lsuchiha1652 the damage he left as a college coach was crazy too.
Its too short for a 30for30
Louis Riddick quite literally put his life and health on the line every day on the field... imagine how he feels about some pompous coach with zero accountability
Now think how the military feels. LetsGoBrandon
@@indiana_bones5583 Agreed, imagine a 5 time draft dodger as your leader. Orange is the new color for cowards.
@@indiana_bones5583 what? Really? Why here? Lmao oh my god
So don’t coaches have a “Conduct Detrimental to Team” clause in their contracts
They do and the Jags are using that verbiage to get out of the contract without paying all of it.
@@allenmobley8444 Thanks for the info. I was wondering how they were gonna find a way out of that guaranteed contract
If they don't in this case then the Jags' owner is even dumber than we thought.
They have vague clauses in them, but you actually don't get to decide that the other party's behavior qualifies as meeting the criteria. An arbitrator or a judge does, and the standard tends to be quite high, it's nothing so small as doing a bad job or making people angry at you. Unless they have video evidence of Meyer doing something physically abusive or criminal they run a very serious risk of being forced to pay out the full amount of the contract.
And also, like with this kicking the kicker incident, you had better have an incredible excuse for any incident that happened well before you decided to fire them. If this happened in summer training camp and you're firing him in December, you basically invalidate your claim of having cause because you clearly didn't fire him for that reason.
It’s bad when Trevor Lawrence a first year player is more mature and professional than the coach
Both of them are not leader's and Shad wanted Trevor Lawrence over Fields and Mac Jones. Shad is a terrible owner because in 2017 they was 4 minutes from being in their first SB, but the Refs and league didn't want a small market team in the SB for ratings. The next season they broke the team up smh Trevor Lawrence is not the one he's overrated and watch today against the Texans how he stinks it up and maybe the interm coach sit him and put C.J in then you will see it's Trevor not being accurate and making right decisions. This will be more excuses for Trevor bad play all year.
Louis Riddick could be a motivational speaker
Nah
Would be a good GM
thats what he is
This isn't college. This is the NFL, which stands for *Not For Long.*
I absolutely LOVE how all the ex-players aren’t holding back. They really didn’t like the hire or what he did with his assistants and subsequently players.
Urban is a big clown out here. Got a job he never should have gotten
Would have respected them more if they spoke up IN THE MOMENT…….don’t wait until the guy has left town!
I can’t respect “Tuesday morning quarterbacks”
Luis is NOTORIOUS for these rants AFTER the fact…
Can a coach fire his assistants?
Can Louis Riddick get hired in any capacity for the Jaguars ?! I think he can contribute to that franchise
He deserves a GM job I actually don’t know how he hasn’t gotten a GM job yet
@@estebanperez4171 I think he was interviewed a couple times in the last 1-2 years. He'll be in that position soon I think.
Jimmy Johnson, Peter Carroll, Tom Coughlin are exceptions not the rule. College football coaches are not generally cut out for the NFL
Jim Harbaugh
while i will say you cant just jump from college to pro coach, i think the issue is more college coaches think its the same as college. even a senior in college is still a kid, the NFL is grown men some in their 40s......dont bring that campus level attitude to the NFL, because its a job now not school
Jimmy Johnson did OK.
@@Bidwellz9 The issue is, mostly, the talent level in the NFL is much more level. Top college coaches win by recruiting, Nick Saban himself has said that. They don't usually have to be geniuses at Xs and Os. The top notch teams probably win 80% of their games by simply showing up. In the NFL, you can't win just by showing up.
@@joebarr725 I already said that he did. He was an exception to the rule
This also shows how great Jimmy Johnson was.
1-15 first year without Troy, Emmitt, and Irvin
@@johnlanier3616 They did have Aikman and Irvin that season
@@scottharm3932 oops. Your right they did.
"He shouldn't be around kids at all" AYO
Getting paid 50 to 60 million dollars to not work. I wish I could fail that spectacularly.
it is worth a shot - or you could declare bankruptcy 6 times and declare yourself a business genius - and run for president - apparently there are plenty of people who even get behind that
He even had gruden to take the heat off and he still messed up 🤦♂️
Even in college it's unacceptable
Yupp. Didn’t Leach get fired for some messed up punishment he put a athlete thru?
Exactly, which i why i dont like a grown man let another grown man do that line... If he shouldnt be doing it to a grown man then why should it be acceptable to do to a young man?
@@wessideATL1 yeah. You right. It ain’t right to treat anyone like that professional athlete or not.
Bart Scott: “Players have more job security than coaches”.
Mitch Trubisky: *Gets drafted #2. Averages 29.6 PPG. Loses his job while his coach who averages 16.8 PPG coaches for 4 years*
Mitch had plenty of years to prove he was worthy of the number 2 pic. He sucked! That's all. And he didn't average those points, the team did! Smh... 😂
@@mikefrancis6546 As bad as Trubisky was for the Bears...Nagy was hot garbage. That defense was what got him Coach of the Year in 2018. He should have been fired last year
@@mikefrancis6546 Im a Bears fan and although I dont think Trubisky was amazing ppl blow his tenure with us out of proportion. 64 TDs 37 INTs with a career 51.6 QBR isnt great, but its average play. He’s not a scrub like most try to believe, he just was a reach of a pick from the get go and proved that. He can still in my opinion be a starter in this league (temporary placeholder tho). Now Nagy on the other hand, a former offensive coordinator, has the worst PPG in the past 4 years of any franchise if I remember correctly. Plus, asside from that 2018 season with Fangio, our defense has underperformed in most instances considering how much talent we’ve had in previous years. Moral of the story, Mitch is a better QB than Nagy is a coaxh
You missed the key word in his statement “MOST players…”
Bruh trubisky's contract was up
Of all the reports, and it's not an easy call, but the report about kicking a player and saying he'll kick him whenever he wants, that's the worst. Most of the other incidents boil down to a mix of arrogance, cowardice and general incompetence, but the kicking of Josh Lambo brings in an element of cruelty that takes things to another level. The calling out of coaches as losers taps into the cruelty element as well, but it's the physical degradation added into the kicking puts it beyond the pale. If that report had come out when it happened, it should be enough on its own to have him fired.
Good leadership has a foundation of love and is about empowering not controlling. A controlling spirit has a foundation in fear.
Poetic, I love it. You nailed it dude.
From what has been coming out from the team I am surprised it has taken this long for the inevitable to happen. Though I know Shad Khan is loyal to staff, loyalty only goes to a point and Urban has burnt all that down.
I knew he wouldn’t succeed in the NFL but I didn’t think it would end like this. Thought he would bolt to ND. Either way it’s karma for Meyer. Left UF in shambles and lied at Ohio State. Meyer walked into a good situation with the Jags. Number 1 overall pick. A rebuilding team with no pressure to win immediately and friends with the owner so he would have likely been able to finish out his contract. What an idiot.
Being an idiot wasn't his problem. His true problem was thinking he was smarter and better than everyone else.
Can you even imagine getting kicked by your boss? I've worked in all kinds of fields and it's unimaginable.
“Too many incidents of dishonesty “!?
There should be only one incident, and a first-and-last warnings.
Jacksonville should go after Byron Leftwich for head coach.
Homecoming.
And then replace him with David Garrard
@@devono-636 lmao
Ah no Byron deserves better then that
LOL!
As a Raider fan I want Louis Riddick as our next GM. But I think he's too smart to get himself caught up in that absolute disaster of an organization at this point.
I want him in espn so that I can have something to watch
@@mkhanman12345 He's one of the better announcers/commentators, for sure.
I want him in Jacksonville. I’m not a Baalke fan and never wanted Urban to begin with. I wanted Bienemy.
@@3inches….FromDaGround After this year Bienemy will have whatever team he wants choice wise.
@@mellykruger9495 not too fast, Chiefs haven’t looked good this year outside of three games. EB might be available
Urban is a joke and a con man. Now he has more free time to commit infidelity some more and blame everybody else for his failures! PATHETIC!
S/o Adam Shef he kept it all the way real
Urban Meyer makes Jon Gruden seem like a saint by comparison!!
I can only imagine what he has done in CFB if this were going on.
Florida still picking up pieces of that mess lol
Louis spoke the truth no matter what job you have
Bart Scott. Amen Brotha.
Bad character is the worst attribute to show young kids.
" a low percentage decision maker" ouch
🎯 A perfect assessment. Louis Riddick does not miss
It's his own fault. He NEVER should have cut Tim Tebow.
Not sure why this isn't getting more likes. Lol
As a building Principal of an elementary school I use Riddick 3 questions for myself leading my teachers and students and working closely with my parents. I wish I can find a whole segment of L. Riddick speaking on his tri-fold..
I knew this wouldn't work out. and i rarely say a coach should be fired in his first year
Yeah it was a remarkably dumb choice to begin with. And that's on the owner. I will give him some credit for saying "OK enough's enough, this guy ain't it, I'm gonna just cut him loose." My guess is Kahn's lawyers have been just waiting for the chance to give him the go-ahead to fire Meyer, and all the stuff that came out the last week was finally enough where they figured they could fire him without having to pay him too much to go away.
I honestly thought Urban was going to say "health problems" or "family reasons." i'm kind of surprised he openly got fired
i for one am sad...because the Urban Meyer drama was more entertaining than the actual NFL lol. Another year of this would have been beautiful
I wish they wouldn’t have fired, I wanted him to quit lol
@@aaronrowell2859 if Meyer had just quit he'd have screwed himself out of a LOT of money for sure. It would have been fun to hear his excuses, though, I get that.
I think Kahn has been having his lawyers study that contract for weeks now, and he realized that Urban finally screwed up so bad so many times that they could fire him without losing a ton of money.
@@dogslobbergardens6606 Yea I think you’re right, I just woulda loved the excuses lol and he doesn’t deserve the money at all
@@aaronrowell2859 I hear you. It's all really funny to me because I don't care at all about the Jags or even their division.
@@dogslobbergardens6606 it’s been the most uninteresting division for a long time lol, I hope lawrence succeeds though
Urban go run your bar and flirt with the young girls. That's where your heart is dude.
How is Louis Riddick not an NFL GM???
Is he trying to be one?
If you have to ask, that means your head in the sand.
Shad Khan had a chance to hire Louis Riddick as GM last year but you know because he black he didn't hire him enough said
@@rodsmith4138 Shahid Khan is Pakistani for goodness sakes. Yall try so hard.
Even at the college level its WILD to be kicking players. I mean I get the whole whip them into shape, drill sergeant, college mentality but you don’t need to physically abuse the kids to boot…
Exactly what I was thinking. Obviously there is a huge difference in how head coaches act at the college and the NFL level, but I don’t think colleges would tolerate all the things Urban did. Curious to see if a college even takes a chance on him. I wouldn’t.
Not with today's fragile college players.
@@johnabbott257IKR - the coaches I had in HS would be considered abusive and creating a toxic environment when in reality they were just hard men that served in the military and didn't suffer fools lightly. They cared about the players but were not going to pamper a bunch of entitled, narcissistic athletes like we have now.
Forget hindsight. Anyone sane should have seen this coming. No surprise at all. Sad that guys like him with his character and back ground will always get a chance while NFL talks equality. This guy should have never been a NFL coach. Period.
LOL, Not surprised at all he was given his walking papers. My own O/U was 3 yrs.
Boy, was I generous.
Everywhere that the guy goes there's always some drama and controversy.
" Character is Destiny"
Heraclitus
Where is the ENERGY from ALL OF THESE GUYS when it was reported.
“Tuesday” morning quarterbacks without the stones to speak out LIKE THIS in the moment.
Now that Urban is fired, he should add a new room at his bar in Columbus: A 2-11 room across the hall from his 7-0 room, which was his record vs. Michigan while there.
Being a Meyer myself and a proud Florida resident..... not only am I embarrassed of how this man disrespected a family name, but also a State and a University where he was a leader. Only shows how someone who shows extreme egotism and in turn comes and bite them down the road finally. He should be ashamed and not return too not only the NFL but also the NCAA. He is not only not a leader but also a bad individual.
Myers was complaining about the draft 2 days before the draft with the number 1 pick ..then goes out & get a running Back 1st Rd ...bad hire
Whenever you see Bart on a segment where he can talk about them you know he’s going to say something funny
Louis Riddick better get a GM job somewhere
Let’s get ahead of this beast, ur out of here!
I wish Tebow and Alex Smith would voice their opinions on this. ESPN is letting all their analyst go at Meyer (rightfully so) but those two have said nothing.
Buckeyes College Football fan & a Cincinnati Bengals fan here. I’ve always said Urban Myer can coach college football however he’s always been someone who has no ethics, morals or character his athletes arrested at Florida was absolutely insane, I cheered for him at Ohio State but couldn’t stand the fact the school hired him with his baggage that Jim Harbaugh also has. & everything he did at Jacksonville was awful, call his assistants losers, saying his players suck, kicking his kicker all that unacceptable & even worse was after a humiliating loss in Cincinnati when they had a huge lead you have the nerve to stay in Ohio your team flies home then we catch a woman grinding herself on him. Please give me a break Jacksonville was dumb for even hiring him.
Riddick should be a GM
the irony that he was rumored to be the jags GM with Urban XD
And yet, if the Jags were 9-4 or even 8-5, he'd still be there.
Why are you surprised..this is the culture of this country..so why wouldn't it be in the workplace..this happened all the time..John Gruden the other day..this guy today..come on man..
The NFL is a different league, these big time college coaches have all the best players coming to their colleges. With the salary cap it makes it way harder.
For about 15 or so years there have been 5 teams that have made the playoffs that weren’t in the playoffs the year before. The NFL is the easiest of the four major North American leagues to have a quick turnaround so it’s not that hard because that salary cap also means there’s a lot of talent on the market every year.
Steve Spurrier's two seasons in the NFL seem like a dream in comparison, as the only problem there was an inability to adapt to the pro game. I never heard of Spurrier being abusive to players. Bobby Petrino and Lane Kiffin seem to be the frames of reference for Meyer as NFL disasters.
That story about Meyer kicking the kicker during the warmup of a preseason game was wild. I Hope jax gets a solid head coach and decent person in there that can clean up this mess
If Khan did a fraction of the vetting on Meyer the average franchise owner or GM does on PLAYERS, he would've smelled Meyer's stench miles away!
And people say "white" privilege doesn't exist. If Urban Meyer was black... Boy.
@@ecchen1 If he was black, they'd have covered it all up, made excuses, and blamed everyone else.
@@johnabbott257 wouldn't be hired
Entire sports world explodes into Schadenfreude!
Hopefully the players can keep the bus on the road the rest of the season. I m looking for them to actually do better now that he’s gone..
Jacksonville...
GM- Louis Riddick
HEAD COACH- Byron Leftwich
If Arians retires.
And then you can have him, he won't be much better about utilizing Robinson likely
There are a lot of comments wanting Louis as GM, but as a Bears fan I want Ted Phillips gone and Louis as president of football ops because he is connected and knows the game. Then he can hire his own GM and work together to find the right coach and mix for the team they want to build
The bottom line is: Meyer DIDN'T take this job because he wanted a challenge and to prove something to himself (& everyone else) - he took this job (yes, for the $ and...) to see "if he liked it".
He didn't...
meyer was in over his head from the start and definitely got some bad advice. shame it didn't work, but i'm not sure he wanted it. college is so much different from the nfl. most of these college coaches usually never work out in the nfl
In college, coaches are the face of the organization. They get the credit for the teams success, they can tell kids whatever they want and not be held accountable, and they’re dealing with kids. In the pros you cannot do that cuz you’re dealing with grown men. Urban Meyer saw himself above his players and assistant coaches which in the NFL you got to see everyone as equals.
Yeah a lot of college guys don’t go to NFL and they’re smart for doing it. Two different games
got some bad advice? no he just acted like a bad person over and over...
@@kaelanbradford3664 ok?? that's like 2/20 former college coaches that were actually good. not great numbers...
@@kaelanbradford3664 one of the best coaches in history? lmao you sound like the clown here
Urban Meyer is a coaching legend. This segment is completely biased. Urban Meyer is a first ballot hall of fame coach. These guys are simply hating.
Coaches need to understand that rapport and building relationship are vital in any sport. He thought something else ! What else did he do in college !! But there many coaches who are trying to get in while he crapped his opportunity!!
Say what you want, but the guy can flat out coach. Ask Utah, Florida, and Ohio St. They'll tell you if he can coach or not.
Pros is different from college. He can flat out coach college. Not in the pros. Same goes for some players. Good in college but cannot cut it in the pros.
Analytics reflect "Kick the Kicker" Plans are doomed to fail.
As a Jags fan I had high hopes. But we just cant ever get it right
2021 had showed a lot of true colors to coaches and players 😂😂 from gruden to meyer
Trevor: "what a great excuse for a bad rookie season."
The kid's literally got nothing to work with, coaches or players.
With Bevell the Jags will go undefeated! In your dreams.
And now he’s embarrassed himself his family and his legacy for ever and he does not even see it it narcissistic behavior 1000% victim and no personal accountability
It is unacceptable to engage in that behavior with college athletes. Wild.
Urban got fired on his off day 🤣🤣🤣🤣😁👍🏾👏🏾
The 30 for 30 on this will not be boring lol
Finebaum called it and so did Bart.
Personal foul ,roughing the kicker, Head coach Urban Meyer 👎
Colin Cowherd will be so depressed about this - his GOOD FRIEND Urban. Hmmm.....
Curious to see his reaction. Must be a University of Florida thing. First Steve Spurrier in Tampa Bay, now Urban Meyer in Jacksonville. They just are not NFL material.
I think the fact that someone like Urban could be so successful in college is actually an indictment of that system. Nobody should be forced to work with or for a guy like this. Would you tolerate someone who behaved like Urban at your job? His particular brand of fake horseshit works way better on college kids because they just don't have the experience to spot a walking sales pitch when they see one.
i was thinking something similar to you - if you listen to all these pundits talk - they all say the same thing - you can't treat pros like college players- . What is implied in that - is that it is OK to be abusive to college players - if you win - . That is probably the more important story underlining this whole thing
Get Byron Leftwich
Gotta show him the money, because he is currently working with TB12 in the middle of a Championship run.
People are pissed. We get it.
Bullies know who and who not to bully. He chose the right one cuz he ALREADY KNEW WHO NOT TO Put his foot on!!!
This was a sham from the beginning 🤦♂️. I told you all this back in March
You told us?
@@juggsandmagsss9397 lol 😂 I was speaking metaphorically
Men don't put their feet on other men. Coaches melt down and make mistakes, but it doesn't sound like Urban had any good will with anyone to what he did and be given the benefit of the doubt.
blah blah blah. everyone dumping gasoline on the fire now. show me video of any of these guys saying it wasn’t going to work out when Urban Meyer got hired. I’d give it maybe 8 months and Urban Meyer will be hired by ESPN as a college football analyst
How are you going to let someone kick you
Now Tebow can come back and play tailback
Let's hear it from Tim Tebow 😆
Saban and Urban must of treated so many college kids very poorly. Sad.
Big White and yet Saban is one of the winningest coaches in college football history.
What an ignorant comment.
Pete Carol will be the new HC of the Jags next season 🔥
Sneakyyyy Pete!!!! Na he's going back to college lol idk
Nope.
I have a perfect ESPN 30 for 30 documentary. This would be a perfect 30 for 30 series: What if I told you that one of the greatest coaches in College Football to one of the greatest NFL coaching busts in history? Would you believe me? ESPN presents: "Urban Meyer: From Champ to Chump" You know you have to be really awful to let Bobby Petrino and Rich Kotite off the hook. They have been replaced "THE WORST COACH IN THE HISTORY OF THE NFL". LOL LOL LOL
that is pretty good - no doubt he would be incredibly insulted to be lumped in with Petrino - and i am sure he would have no idea who Rich Kotite was but i would say you pretty much have the story
I wasn't sleep.
Why hasn't this side of Meyer been exposed before ? Everything must've been overlooked as a college coach for some reason, but all of a sudden in the NFL, he turns out to be a screw-head. Unreal, to say the least.
CHRIS DOYLE😂😂😂😂
Mad respect for him,
when he was with the Buckeyes,, but he lost all of it.
No coach can fix that squad. bottom line
I agree
I feel bad for there Lawrence he got worst since being top pick out of college.
Look how much the jags turned around since this clownery