UFC Fighters With The Most Extreme Narrative Shifts In 2023
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- čas přidán 6. 06. 2024
- In this video I discuss fighters that had the biggest narrative shifts in the UFC in 2023. These are fighters who due to their stellar performances, or lack luster performances, opened the flood gates to drastic new narratives about their careers. What do you guys think? Let me know in the comments.
#ufc #mma
Time Stamps:
0:00 Intro
1:01 Justin Gaethje
3:17 Beneil Dariush
7:35 Kamaru Usman
10:46 Petr Yan
13:50 Sean Strickland
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I’ll admit, I was one of those guys calling Gaethje overrated and talking about how he had taken too much damage and his time was coming to an end. But when rewatching his fights leading up to the Fiziev matchup I realized he was better than I had given him credit for. But even then I didn’t think I would view him so highly today. Gaethje & Strickland definitely have the biggest narrative shifts
After seeing the way Charles dropped gaethje I thought his chin was done. 100% convinced Fiziev was gonna ko him and start the end of his career
Boy was I gladly wrong
Regardless (infact, because of) of your main event picks, you make the best mma content on youtube.
@@camerondavies8442 I thought Justins chin was gone as well, as usually he took barrage of punches before going down. Olivera hit him only once, though it was pretty clean shot
@@camerondavies8442 fiziev was never beating gaethje idk where that narrative came from. The man gassed vs Bobby Green. And he spams those kicks way too much now look at his knee
Gaethje was in an accident before fighting Charles and got double concussed. That could be why he wasn't fighting like himself.
Lucas Tracy's narrative shifted from maybe a casual to 100% wrong in Main Event predictions.
Tell em vikrant
😂
bedtime has the best picks other than me
@@harrywatson2694CheckMMATE is 100% on all predictions, they even called the Strickland fight. Literally script writers.
Lucas Tracy is sped af idk why he is popular
Sean got the biggest shift of the year so far.
From "Izzy is gonna murder him" to "Oh, man, he's schooling Izzy". Nobody could've predicted that
I predicted it. You know how? American PRIDE! 🦅🇺🇸
@@chrisdiaz4876, Americaaaa, fu.k yeah
America sucks fellas. Great in some ways but ridiculous in many facets
@@chrisdiaz4876*Mexican. You ain’t American
Periera predicted it too
If you think about it, the Lucas tracy curse is probably the direct reason for most if not all these narrative shifts
It's not even a curse. He just literally doesn't know how to analyze and predict a fight.
@@gh0rochi363 it's called a joke bud
@@gh0rochi363 to be fair alot of the picks he gets wrong are injuries and crazy upsets
Still can't believe colby kod leon in round 1
Tbh these arnt even narratives. Theyre all lucas tracys opinions. Nobody was saying gaethje was washed except lucas. And now lucas backtracks on all his opinions when he gets clowned for being wrong like always
“This is what people were saying” about Gaethje…. Bro it was you saying that
No people definitely were saying this. Just because u don't hear it, say it or have anyone around u saying it doesn't mean it wasn't being said
No don’t play stupid lmao. There was a lot of fans more specifically, Khabib fans that tried to discredit Oliveira’s win over Gaethje by saying he was washed up and wasn’t the same Gaethje anymore. This was during the time that a lot of people thought Charles might be the one to dethrone Khabib as the greatest lightweight of all time.
@@daquansteward1690yeah heard lots of casuals saying it
I def saw people mocking Gaethje after that Charles loss
Nah id lost complete faith in Gaethje watching him fall to the floor while trying to load up haymakers vs Oliveira and then get sent flying like a cartoon character
Justin fighting more patient really shows how good his striking is
as soon as he gets cracked its out the window but if not he aint gettin outpointed
He was suppose to be new and improved when he faced charles and this dude was swinging like an amateur in that fight 😂😂.
He panics when faces a grappler. Like he did with Khabib and Charles.
Justins striking is good, but he goes down several levels when he faces a grappler. I'm pretty sure he will lose next fight if he faces Islam or Charles. The take down threat is real, even Justin is former wrestler himself
@@ps9501you're only the 4th guy to say this on this thread. Real original fella
Babe wake up Lucas made a Gaethje video
Nerd you know you don’t have a girlfriend 😂
GSP wasn't as dominant as Kamaru? Lmao, he was WAY more dominant. He rarely ever dropped rounds and won 30 straight rounds. You wanna talk about someone looking invincible? GSP was it. Usman on the other hand frequently drops rounds and struggles in every fight he has that isn't against washed up journeymen. He struggled greatly against Colby twice, got dropped and lost the first round against Burns and even lost the first round against Leon in their second fight before getting knocked out and got outclassed in the trilogy. How is that looking invincible? That isn't very dominant at all. Usman's got to be one of the most overrated fighters of all time.
Usmans competition > GSP comp
@@andrewortiz6430 Yes but that's an era difference. You only compare fighters to their own era.
Prime Matt Hughes got submitted twice in less than 1 rnd by Dennis hallman & flatlined by Jose Landi Jons.
GSPs competition is laughable by modern standards, that’s like saying the Gracie’s were dominate
@@andrewortiz6430 Jouneyman Masvidal, pillow fist one dimensional Colby and Burns who doesn't even know how to defend a jab? Lol ok. You pandemic era casuals are the worst
@@DADRB0B55 Nice cherry picking. I never rated Hughes anyway. What about Jake Shields who dominated the same Dan Henderson who KO'd Fedor, who beat a prime Maia, who beat a prime Woodley etc?
And Usman's comp isn't laughable? The guy successfully defended his belt against *only three different guys* . One of them was never good enough to make it to a title shot back in GSP's era. Colby is unproven against good fighters in their primes and was struggling against and getting taken down by the likes of washed up RDA. He was less dominant than expected against a 37 year old Masvidal.
Don't forget the gigantic narrative switch and change that you did with Cereal Gane saying that he would "50-45 The GOAT Jon Jones!" now all of a sudden to "He'll get crushed by Sergey Spivak".💀
Lmaooo Lucas will always run from this prediction and mention it as little as possible
@@yoaregey7296 he mentioned it in a video like a week ago though
I’m still high on Petr Yan tbh. He’s like 29-31 and can still be something. Merab is the only one who can really run through him.
Icl I see yan badly finishing song yadong. Quick turn around fights cejudo smokes him and then gets the rematch vs o malley tkos him in the 4th boom yan is champ
@@anshumankrishnan2085I’m not sure Cejudo beats him
@@anon2427 I did the grammar wrong I meant he fights yadong then he smokes cejudo then rematches O’Malley
@@anshumankrishnan2085yan can beat anyone but yan vs song would be a greeaat fight. They are so similar
@@tonyfergusonisthetypeofguy142 I feel yan is the most well rounded fighter he can easily wrestle but I think he’ll be too good for song yadong
Dude, you are very creative and passionate about this sport that you come up with very cool video ideas that I haven't seen before. Great content man!
MMA Goat 🐐
I'm just glad that Charles got to prove that he got power on Gaethje and Benny. Man did way too much to start getting disrespected now.
Strickland was definitely super underrated. He IS really good but the glaaaze you're putting on this man is monumental. Chill lol.
Yea no way Sean beats Alex in a rematch
Thought the exact same thing, like let’s pump the brakes. The dude just won the belt, let’s see how it plays out
I have to disagree with the Kamaru take. There was nothing from the third Leon fight that showed me that he’s washed. Leon’s game plan of using leg kicks from range nullified Kamarus pressure. Leon beating him doesn’t make me think that the other contenders could do the same thing. Honestly I think he still beats Colby and would beat Belal. A fight with Shavkat can go either way because Shavkat isn’t the most defensively sound
@@invisible_empire 100 percent
@@PaulieWalnuts_lost_shoe Thoughts in the present? personally I think Usman beat Khamzat and if even if arguable by some; a 5 rounder is a dub handsdown.
Wasn’t most of these narratives mainly pushed by u Lucas
Yes he always says "We" but he is the only one saying those things
Gaethje is definitely one of the best narrative change. If we remember properly, gaethje after his loss to dustin and eddie said that doctor told him he had very few fights left but then with help of trevor and stuff he went on to fight more than 6 times becoming interim champ and bmf champ and multiple time title challenger. The fact that gaethje is fighting young upcoming talents like Feizev and beating them. The fact that gaethje being one of the hardest hitter and people think he don't have puncher chance to beat islam or knock out anyone in lightweight is insane.
I think what we really learned was that Charles Olivera has underrated striking to dust up gaethje and sub him like he did then go on and sleep dariush like he did, if he comes back and beats islam then you cant deny how great he will be
Hey LUCAS! Just want to say THANK YOU for actually hanging out with your followers and asking some questions. Even mine. That felt really good and I hope you know you make people feel very welcomed because of that. Even if a lot of people disagree with what you say, it opens the door for us to form our own opinions which is great! You’re a good guy dude, appreciate your time.
EDIT: aren’t you vacation?
“Isn’t this guy f***ing awesome?”
Mcgregor could be one… he used to be this unstoppable beast n then after Dustin beat him narrative shift big time imo.
Dope vid idea
Interesting video Lucas. Gotta go with Usman as the biggest narrative shift so far in 23
Bro I love your videos , keep that shit going
For Justin gaetche last year . You can’t put chinny and then homer simpison in the same slide. Homer be eating bombs 💣
Yay a post
these videos make we wanna go back and watch these fights
Lmao I remember when everyone was shitting on Gaethje after his Olivera loss saying he's overrated (literally had one of the best back and forth rounds in fighting history and was neck and neck with Olivera) saying Fiziev was going to walk through him and then the Poirier rematch was the same narrative.
At one point people were hyped about Petr being balls of steel for not backing down when a heavyweight was threatning him (shaky on details cause it was so long ago) and now he has fallen do far in popular perception.
gratz on 60k
This is honestly such an incredible and well structured video. I’m high off my ass and followed so easily
Good video
This is great idea for a show.
Lucas is like a young Jim Rome, you dont really take him seriously, its like background hot take radio
I think you down playing usman a lot , I think he can beat everyone in the division, except Leon and shavkat
Lucas Tracy the most extreme narrative shifter of them all makes a video on the most extreme narrative shifts of the year. It’s like a fever dream…
Lucas you were one of the few people doubting Gaethje 😂🫵
The few? Stop it 😂
Dricus was the biggest shift for me and he will beat Strickland I am sure of it, I like them both but DDP is going to be the Champ next!
The way Dricus used the switch stance to counter Rob's style was so intelligent. Would love to see how Strickland v. Du Plessis goes
Dricus had the biggest narrative change
Agreed, last year I think people were thinking he'd lose to guys like Jack Hermansson/Imavov/etc
To me petr yans fall hit the hardest. Because he was so good that people just didnt believe he was washed despite losing several in a row. That’s such a huge deal mma fans are so fickle if most people lose once people are calling them washed up and mid but Yan lost multiple times before people really started looking at him differently. There was talk of him being the best striker in the divisions history his losses were a fluke future goat nobody is calling him that anymore. It reminds me a bit of Dominic Reyes because he lost to jones but he was dominant the whole time and looked awesome people thought he would come back and be champ but it never happened it sent him down a losing streak.
for sure , can't argue with his recent wins and performances!! . it's tough after 2 title fight losses . But he's proved a lot after those 2 losses . against great fighters too ... i think he's becoming the mythical OLD MAN MUSCLE GAETHJE and he will probably finish/ TKO a grappler soon !!!!!
People meme on you, I do too. I appreciate your passion for the sport, even if you got a curse.
Lucas the mma community needs you to make a video where you predict paddy to beat tony Ferguson
Bros channel is the hottest thing in the game rn 🔥💯
When Lucas refers to the Cobblestone Wobblestone Knees of usman I can’t help but laugh. Shits just funny
DeSean Strickland is now higher than Khabib Nurmagomefraud on the goat list
Kinda crazy how Lucas went from the tiktok MMA guy to prob the best MMA CZcamsr rn
Also omalley kinda went from undeserving, easy fight for merab and aljo. Now ppl look at him as a real threat
Bro knows what he’s doing stg
Great video dude
Petr Yan beats Yadong fairly comfortably tbh, he's got the perfect guard for Yadong's style of offense.
Imo you can say its a mirror Match
@@pKerViKNG I think Song has a lot of power and will take one to give one and could hurt Yan pretty bad. I think if Song wins in a non-fluky way people are gonna say Yan is done
8:42 belal is 35 years old. He is not young lmao
You said I hope you guys enjoyed the video. Yes mother fucker I enjoyed it very much. Considering this time last year I wasn’t following ufc(outside of the O’Malley and Yan fight)and hadn’t since like the nick Diaz days. So this was an extremely enjoyable video. You and guru keep my library full of content and it’s fucking awesome not having to listen to one of these mainstream chumps lol. Mucho gracias.
Whats the background music??
The way petr beat sandhagen had me thinking he was never gonna lose there for a minute 😂😭
Nah but he is only 30 Petr yan ain’t old and two fights that were real close one real loss to belal
@@LukosCelestou you’re right, he’s still young and a comeback isn’t out of the realm of possibility, but I find it unlikely. What about belal though? Confused haha 😛
This dude called 35 year old Belal young 😂😂
You should make the best chins of ufc history
The thing is, don't get sucked into any silly narratives..The fact is that any of these guys can win against each other, on any given night..The odds will be with some fighters over others, but fighters mature and improve and they also fight with injuries and when they are under the weather, and they can all make a mistake that can lead to the end of a fight..And skills and bodies degrade..And then there is drive and desire...And the myriad of skills involved within the UFC..
i am so bummed that song yadong is fighting petr yan. Its gonna be a great fight, but i dont want either of them to lose.
GSP set the record for the most consecutive rounds won in a row, he absolutely was more dominant than Kamaru.
Kind of an oversight to not have Dricus in this one bro.
Waddup gang
I always thought Sean Strickland was underrated
Bro wrote cobblestone wobble stone knees 💀
“This is what people were saying” = this is what I was saying 😂
Do a Tony vs paddy breakdown
Yan’s best bet to get the belt is if O’Malley or Chito are champ.
He has to beat Song, keep his spot as rank 5. So rank 4 Sandhagen. Winnable fight but Sandhagen has improved quite a bit since their fight. Rank 3 Cejudo, toss up fight, not sure who’d win, so this is a viable option for him. Rank 2 Merab…yea I don’t see this fight being any different. Rank 1 Aljo…he has to hope Aljo moves up to 145, as Aljo has improved massively since the Yan 2 fight to be able to out strike and out wrestle Cejudo
Hypothetical rank 1 Chito or O’Malley when either one loses….honestly Yan’s easiest matchup in the top 5. But idk if the UFC would let him get the rank 1 fight coming off of beating someone in the top 10 and not the top 5, so he’d have to hope Sandhagen or Merab doesn’t dethrone Chito or O’Malley
thought for sure oliveira would be on there. everyone was saying he dariush would beat him, dustin and justin would both beat him in a rematch.
Tracy making it sound like Charles did a Calvin Kattar beating on Beneil 😂
It was worse lol. Katter elbowed his way to a decision whereas Charles actually put Benny away
One big narrative shift is last year people were saying Izzy only loses to Alex and now people are saying Izzy loses to everyone
I still think Charles is a better striker than Justin
Oh wow
Lucas I'd like to hear your thoughts on how to solve the weight cut issue in Mma?
Good idea
Justin isn’t the best striker at 155 but definitely agree that he’s the hardest hitter
1 narrative that has been the same since day 1 is that Chael sonnen is undisputed, undefeated.
Izzy has always been cringe, i loved seeing alex bring the belt to brazil.
That belt had a little 6 months holidays in brazil bruh
Izzy flatlined him and brought it back
And now it's in America and Sean broke it not even 1 week after he got it which is hilarious😅
I never thought Justin to be washed. Elite gatekeeper? Sure. Khabib, Charles, Dustin, is not a bad list to lose to. Dustin himself at the same time was very much the “best striker” by same the time I’ve heard LTracy thinking “jalen beats poirier” look how that aged 😐 he was beating Charles on the feet, helpless in grappling. Only other person to do so in recent is Islam, and Charles was absolutely swinging for the fences undisciplined.
Beneil just has no clout, can take his time off, ofc he has to cuz Charles absolutely cooked him.
2 Dubronx victims. Olivera is literally 1 step away from being the only LW champ to be smoking on top 5 like Izzy digging past his line up only to be slaughtered by Sean.
“Best striker at 155”
Gets wrecked by Oliveira in the first round
Charles was hurt in the fight to tho stop acting gaethje kills Charles in rematch and kills Islam
Gotta think what would happen if yan got the win against sean (one that he rightfully deserved).. he might have gone on to beat Sterling if that trilogy happened (or even had the confidence to beat Merab). After that sean fight, i think yan lost his motivation. He's known for having a slow start/reading his opponents before he wins the later rounds. If sandagan gets the belt, i think yan has a shot at becoming champ again
No one was saying that about Gaethje 😂
I still have faith in yan a win vs yadong and than maybe cejudo could merit a rematch with sean and in a 5 rounder id take yan
Not the power point lmaoooo
In an alternate timeline you’re the greatest fight predictor in the last 50 years
Justin overnight just became the worst striker at 155
how ?😂
@@AntiShadowmadeLucas Tracy curse
@@cheyslaps1084 makes sense now
@@AntiShadowmadeif Lucas says Santa claus isnt real then you might want to block your chimney at Christmas
@@Dpw20001 this dude a whole uno reverse card.
You missed out on Dricus Du Plessis. Everyone, including me, thought this dude was a bum that Rob was gonna put a clinic on. Now? He’s clearly an elite fighter.
I was really annoyed by how people talked about Gaethje
35 year old Belal is “young” lmao
You forgot about O'Malley going from a hype train to "who in the top 5 can beat this guy"
4:48 Me after getting hit by Charles : 🅿️🅿️🅿️♿️♿️♿️🥶🥶🥶💧💧💧
hows belal young? 1 year younger then kamaru
lucas belal is 35 he isnt “young”
“Justin Gaethje’s an overrated muhhfukkuh” had me rolling 😂
how the f is it not charles that's getting credit here he's the one at 155 that's going to show people what's what.
Gaetjhe is great but without BJJ he will never beat Islam, maybe he beats Charles, because he loves to get hit, but if the fight goes to the ground is game over again
Ahahahah what the hell means cobblestone wobblwstone knees 😂😂😂😂😂 that's hilarious
How about just stop it with the extreme narrative shifts. I think Beniel is still a tough stylistic matchup for Big Mak
Tbf anyone who had those takes about gaethje are probably alil slow😂
Most people were saying it somehow,I agree gaethje had been improving ever since first 2 losses
gsp was MUCH more dominant than usman, lmao
Dariush is still the best defensive grappler in the division
Facts, I actually think gamrot is the best defensive grappler at 55 but you can also argue that its islam or dariush
i had to stop watching at 2 minutes. i've started watching mma 9 months ago, and i'm a better analyst than this guy.
still, i wish you nothing but the best, and i hope the channel keeps doing well.
Sean isn't beating Pereria in a rematch tho
hey man ion know i thought yan got 50-45ed by merab the machine demolishivili
Sean also TKOd Brendan Allen. Which IMO is a win that just ages really well the better Brendan does.
Who tf picks Strickland against Pereira in rematch???