U.G. Krishnamurti - If I'm Hungry, I'll Kill You
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- čas přidán 26. 05. 2016
- Books on U.G. Krishnamurti:
Mind is a Myth - amzn.to/3erGeYi
The Courage to Stand Alone: Conversations with U.G. Krishnamurti - amzn.to/3enKIiU
This Dog Barking: The Strange Story of U.G. Krishnamurti - amzn.to/2ZnDG9m
I've met him in Bangalore, when he was still alive.. he's self cooking & eats the same simple Vegetarian food without any kinds of changes.. every day & all the year after year.. he just says hunger is your biological need, to live it doesn't matter what you eat.
So lucky you are. Please tell more about your meeting.
Your Lucky. Culture and belief distance us from knowing the facts or say what's natural
Vegetarian? He ate animal products but yes you can call his diet vegetarian. He did not eat much food at all though
@@HonkyTonkManYeah He said vegetarian, not vegan
@@saurabhbatheja the rest of us are lucky for never having met him imo
This is everything! If what hes' saying makes sense to you, if you can embrace it, you will be want for NOTHING
By bombarding with his words he wants to take us straight down to our bottom and make us silent speechless. A new type of teacher. Marvellous.
the man is a fool
Why this man hasn't gotten the same recognition, other "teachers" like him have gotten? He is literally one of the very few bright people humanity has known.
His approach hurts too much I think. That’s why
@@deanmccrorie3461 nothing to approach. people come for answers. the man points out that they already have them. A teacher can never do that. And the best teacher is the one who conforms to you at some point. can a teacher ever "teach" someone that a there is nothing to teach ?
@@delq but did you not just teach me this? lol
@@deanmccrorie3461 how can i teach you something about yourself ? About your own intention ? You know it better than me - about why you came here and so on. I just pointed out your demand for approaching something, a mechanical reaction to something that is false
@@delq So you mean youre a reminder rather than a teacher?
And in some ways you could argue you know more about me than i know about myself. Actually i have a logical proof that says all self knowledge is illusion
(14:43) "It is the demand for lengthening a particular sensation longer than its natural duration. That's the pain, that's the conflict"
I would extend to say that the demand for shortening a particular sensation is also equally responsible for conflict. Thoughts?
see Freud: Pleasure Principle
Leo Boudib;...lengthening or shortening a particular 'sensation' could lead to conflit...... then, what is a 'conflit'.? is it just a measurement.? could we trivialize conflit into a framework.?......i do not think so,...we need to go into the very depths of a conflit to determine its causation. right.? in doing so, its extension or distension becomes immeterial....so conflit resolution has nothing to do about its measurement.
Leo Boudib
makes sense...say if someone gets hit by a flying banana, she'd be like why me, oh it hurts, when will it stop... all of that will make her pain even less bearable...if she'd just let the pain take it's course, pretty sure it'd have hurt less
Just cut the bulshit
What a patently useless comment. "Shortening" a particular sensation is merely seeking to substitute that sensation for another sensation, in essence seeking to "lengthen" that sensation.
UG telling them what they want to hear but not the way they want to hear it hahaha
U.G is good entertainment.
Bhavik....He is not good entertainment to sane people.....he is a very good entertainer to ''stark-mad-people'....living in mental asylums....
If your comment is directed towards me, I take it as a compliment..
not to you......
Sir,
Maybe, UG is too serious.
Maybe, UG is too blunt.
But he is not at all entertainment.
Could have been a little entertaining, like Osho jokes. That is our expectation. But UG was there not to fulfill anybody's expectation!
🙏!
or may be my definition of entertainment is not same as yours
Once you go, everything goes with it. Don't play with it buddy.
Now I get him he speaking about:
Concept+Idea+Knowledge v.s. Experiencing.
It's like you don't know a tree until you see one and spend time with it, until you see what is the reality of experiencing a tree vs ideas and concept. It short, no words to explain a tree just be dissolved into it.
The purest expression of non dualism on earth...(not the word non dualism)
I don’t really listen to what he’s saying (tho I’m genuinely interested). I just feel his presence so mesmerizing…
It is marvellous to listen than anybody
Every time he exposes bullshit, there is a sly smile on his face 🤣
What brilliance.
What a rockstar ❤️
Beautiful beautifull beautiful thank you thank you thank you hunger what we eat doesn't matter God's gifts journey thank you universe thank you thank you
11:50 there's some good stuff!
Justification is born out of your demand to be selfless ,,, ULTIMATE 😄😄
He does feel for others oblivious to the others though.
His words sound harsh. But to me, when I see him, listen to him, I feel the undercurrent of compassion. Not sure this is my imagination or reality!
I don't know but I feel it too!
The blaster
Moment to moment
Talking about anger control
El camino y sendero del despertar.
Purgarse, Depurarse , ayunar y observa en des-apego !
Te desapegas de todo lo que cree y crea el persona-G, luego del personaje = el que NO ERES.
"Vivir en el mundo sin ser del mundo"
Des-progra-AMATE = Quitar los programas, es amarte.
Des= quitar.
Progra= programación.
Ámate= LLENARSE DE AMOR.
Des-ego= quitar ego.
Des-apego= quitar apego.
Des-personalizacion = Quitar el PERSONAJE.
Eres lo que eres, sin el persona-G que NO ERES!
Pissed off at the very thought of thinking UG.
What did UG mean by, "-The stimuli and the response is a unitary movement."?
cause and effect are the one. I had a calamity experience when I was 19, which was somewhat like kundalini but at the same time nothing can describe it.
U.G. is the only person I’ve heard describe what I’ve experienced.
from the POV of the ‘natural state’ every entity, event, etc. functions together as a ‘living organism’. There really is nothing to say about it.
However in time and space we have observations and make distinctions between this and that.
There are no individuated events. It's all part of the same noise.
He is saying some real facts. That does not mean whatever he said is right. On many issues, he is just playing with words and nothing else.
Just listening to his voice is far better than to understand intellectually and to make any head or tail out of his words or out of what he says and doesn't say. 😅😂🤣😜
Just turn the other cheek.
But then nobody is happy.
Too much outside noises
I dont want an animal natural state. I want an evolved human state experience where there are choices to make.
And that wanting creates a living hell.
@@kburtsev Well thats the idea of having freedom to decide what you want and how you want it.
@@zatoichiable That is actually so! You are right! Even the hell is freedom.
@@kburtsev Freedom is only on earth and in paradise, in hell you wish you can come back to earth and change your decision to believe that heaven and hell are real.
@@zatoichiable Yes but Santa Clause taught me that humans are full of shit and there's no point believing in anything humans say because they're just another living organism with illusory mind for the sake of survival, an inevitably losing battle.
Every video UG says the same thing: there’s nothing there. But people still don’t believe him.
And they keep asking lol
Ug also didn't want that they believe on that. He always said - "you can understand this, but it's never touched you for your wanting".
What's UG's age here?
70 +
Unfortunately, I think, He is giving a half message or partial insight. Yes it is true that emotions such as selfishness, greed, anger are natural and beyond our control,
but that does not mean we are justified to act them out as nature's beings!
The correct message would be this: Selfishness, greed and anger are emotions arising instantly from our mind when it faces situations. If we blindy act based on these, socieity will punish us (justifiably). We think that the solution is to avoid the arising of these impulses.
Whereas the solution lies in acknowledging that we do not have control to avoid the instantaneously arising emotions, but we can choose NOT to act them out.
So the solution is to accept the arising of the impulse but be responsible to not take action on that.
While the impulsed mind is frusttrated like a tanturm throwing child, , the responsible mind will feel the peace.
In other words, we are not responsible that the impulse arises, but we are responsible for action we take based on that.
Our freedom lies in allowing impulses to arise as they are but instead of fighting them or indulging in them, we take action that does not land us or others in trouble as much as we can.
This is better than either indulging or suppressing them.
UG missed out the second part. Culture is simply living in a society where we learn to not act out some impulses. It is not the culprit. Culture - a societies listing of what actions are to be avoided and what are allowable - is what provides broad orderliness leading to better lives. Yes of course, as times change, each society has to revisit this list witht the knowledge that unbearable rules will cause distortions and mental diseases, but solution is not throw away culture
Whensoever you experience that you are not separated from anyone anything in this entire universe that's when within fraction of a second immediately you're transformed into nothing and nobody!?!? What anyone anybody would do?? Just like when you're in your own deepest sleep? After waking up to your everyday normality you'll know that you had a very deep relaxing sleep. But within your deep relaxing sleep factually you've been experiencing that you're not seperated from anyone anybody or anything while knowingly or unknowingly certainly you've transformed into nobody and nothing. 😅😂🤣😜
What is it that you want to be free from? 9:33
"you don't want to be free from fear" (from 11:48)
"You don't want to be free from what you know"
Awareness of even being. I guess nothing is the answer
haha
J.K to U.G??Now they're taking it too far
Throw both away
First impression... I'm sad to see that he interrupts the people questioning him so quickly.... keep watching....
transcript is extremely inaccurate
I don't know
It's automatic on CZcams. Not to be confused with actual subtitles made by a person and uploaded to the video.
From a normal perspective, I agree, it seems a bit rude. However, if you've looked into all the stuff on him you begin to understand why he does it. Firstly, he's not really interested in a 'normal' discussion because he knows that a discussion involves each person trying to persuade the other person over to their viewpoint. He doesn't have a viewpoint; he's just trying to knock off what they are saying (or thinking). Elsewhere, I've heard him say that he's actually trying to knock off what he, himself, is saying. The thinking mechanism is the problem. He's trying to stop their thinking. Also the energy coming off him is so intense and he's so engaged with them that there's no space like in a normal discussion. He doesn't see himself as separate from them, and has no sense of self, so he's just blurting responses out like a machine gun as soon as they start to speak. It's difficult to explain. You'd have to read all the stuff about him at www.well.com/~jct/ to get a feel for it. Cheers.
Haha, ain't that the truth! I can't argue with you there. At the end of the day those guys have gone to his house, for free, and want something from him. He's just dealing with them in his own way. I'm not defending him but it is interesting to me that if someone behaves a little outside of the social norm that people can't help but judge him. This itself is inevitable because our social conditioning, which we are, reacts to it. My impression is that it's quite a good humoured/natured discussion.
Funny what clickbait for UG fans looks like. :D
More rethorics than logic i'm afraid. That's the difference between the two j's.
U learn all ur life, keeping on accumulating knowledge about every damn thing that exists or doesn’t exist….and then lightining called u.g hits u and booom ..it’s fnished😂
16:50 Who is this man?
+Simon B I'm pretty sure he's part of the film crew
U.G. Krishnamurti. He was south indian man. Died in 2007.
Sylvester stallone :'D
Kashmir will go to Pakistan and West Bengal will go to Bangladesh 😂😂😂
I can only agree to a specific point. I agree that biological life is selfish, that we must feed ourselves, that we have to protect ourselves, that we have to create peace in order to serve ourselves etc. But this is where I draw the line: He would argue that the mother instinct is also just a built in selfish mechanism. This is also true to a certain degree. But! the mother instinct which is biological is in itself as much as it is genetic and built into most animals, is a whole different concept and one that completely leaps out of selfishness because it Is not selfish. I don't know whether someone without this mother instinct can really grasp what I am saying. The moment you feel this mother instinct you are Not selfish anymore. Jiddu Krishnamurti talks about this also. When you realize the need of others fully and when you see the others, feel them, understand them, empathize with them then you can not continue on a selfish path that hurts them. We carry a huge responsibility and we need to act on it.
he said selfish people don't hurt others because they know they're only hurting themselves
Joel Jesaveluk Selfish people don't hurt others??? I don't think so.
***** I totally disagree with you. I see it exactly reversed. True love is altruism and non selfishness. True love is living a consequential live style. True love is saying No when you have to for yourself and others. True love is also caring for your own body. You are not separate from others. I am not separate from the trees outside my window. Saving the whales out of compassion for the other beings is also love for myself because we are all in this together. I don't do all of that from an intellectually orchestrated effort. I love because my brain is set up that way, I feel love all the time, it can even be painful often, but that's how I am and I can't change that and I wouldn't want to change that it is a good thing to be able to love like that.
***** I agree. I wish well for all entities. But when it comes to my own life I set boundaries. I don't hold the other cheek.
U.G. would say, you are not in a position to agree or disagree. Ponder.
filthiest bastard ug
Are they all Indians ? If yes, why they speak in English
Have you heard about the Indian language? No, because in India there are many languages. English is their "Indian" language =)
It might be possible that English was the language that all of them knew? Maybe they all speak different languages but maybe English is where they all overlapped. I don't know for sure though, just speculating. Good question.
If he speaks in his mother tongue. As an Indian I can't understand that. In India there are 1000 languages but majors are 122 .
He has experienced the insight .....but can't deliver it...shame.
There is nothing to deliver.
The consistent testimony is that the nameless cannot be named.
Silly little man, welcome to carcosa!
I thought he was vegetarian. There are plenty of plants and herbs on the planet, we do not have to eat each other if we are hungry. This guy is starting to make me angry man!
humans can eat anything. Doesn't matter what.
LOL. I am vegan, but lol
and why are you vegan? Does vegetables and fruits are less alive then chickens and pigs? I don't think so. But eat what you want i don't want to change you as long as you don't push your vegan lifestyle in my throat, and i've seen a lot of vegans do that just like atheists like to push their ideology to religious people. It's pretty funny when you look at it outside.
it is funny
He was a vegetarian his entire life. But he never told anyone what to do in any field of life. He does not care if you are angry. You should be angry. He once told me, if you are not angry there is something wrong with you.
About 3 thousand years ago people kill each other and did what ever they wanted . Because this kind of teaching. Because they believed nothing exists.
Then Buddha came alone and solved the question. Buddha found out emptiness exists. It's the ultimate intelligence witch never born and never die . Also Buddha found out cause and effect ( karma ) .
I think this kind of videos create lots of problems to humanity.
"About 3 thousand years ago people kill each other and did what ever they wanted . Because this kind of teaching. Because they believed nothing exists. "
These sentences are all false. Human history tells us the opposite is true. If humans are safer now on average compared to thousands of years ago it's because of technology, not religious teachings.
Ke Hatara Buddha is the filthiest bastard.
People still kill each other and do whatever they want, only they do it quietly and from the other side of the world through , economics, technology, and ignorance because killing each other in person would offend their sense of propriety.
Buddha didn't change a thing and knew that he would never change a thing.