Is there space for LGBTQ+ in Uganda? | ON THE SPOT
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- čas přidán 23. 03. 2023
- The Ugandan parliament has recently passed one of the world's most severe anti-homosexuality laws, which is now waiting for presidential assent. The new law criminalizes the LGBTIQ community and has sparked protests from activists who argue that it deprives them of their fundamental right to life and criminalizes their ability to express love. In contrast, supporters of the law believe it will restore moral control over Ugandan communities and eliminate "foreign" ideas. On The Spot, we discussed the pros and cons of the Anti-Homosexuality Bill with Andrew Mwenda, a veteran journalist who challenged a previous anti-gay bill in 2014, and Medard Lubega Sseggona, a lawyer and legislator for Busiro South.
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It is better to stand alone when you choose the right way than stand with the majority who are wrong. Be firm 🇺🇬
It takes a lot of courage to be who you are, especially for the LGBT.
Whatever Uganda losses from the outside world does not matter to us...this homosexual bill should be signed
Are u ready for the consequences as a nation???
@@francandsex8793 they are not, safe your breath mate and enjoy the rest of your live, humanity is lost. And thanks for being a proper human being, someday we both will die for that, cause that's the only thing humans care for, killing.
1 dollar will cost ugx 20000 sooner or later.
Tell tht to the Zimbabwean. I meet a lot of them and their view of Mugabe is not great
Singa bakunsiyagira novunda enwyo nowuya🙄
Ssegona thanks for the general defence of our country values
In Dubai for example, couples are forbidden to show affection for each other in public places.... but tourists flock there and observe such legislation... Why can't Ugandan visitors do the same for our values.?
As an American 🇺🇸 I feel like they should do what’s best for them.
Do you think the same about nazi Germany? You know who I mean, the guys that killed your grandfather xD I guess nazi Germany is completely different huh ;}
How comfortable for you. Watching other people suffer not caring is very comfortable
what? Best for who?
they will try that in america not here
Junior I know you went to America as a gay, remember when you were in kakumba camp how to lied to UNHCR about your status. You were born in uganda and I know your family background very well.
Hon.Segona you are class apart.
Infact I like the way you are knowledgeable
The bible says in Isaiah 5:20 woe to those who call evil Good. Thank you so much Hon Ssegona for standing for our African culture.
Congrats you get enslaved by white religion
African culture that deems its traditional beliefs demonic in favor of colonial religions such as Christianity. Smh…
Traditional precolonial African cultures largely affirmed their same-gender loving sons and daughters.
Thank God there's still some morals and common sense in the world
Rare indeed. Respect from Canada.
Uganda Forever….🙏🏾
What does that slogan mean, Dr. Young?
Thank YOU so much Hon. Ssegona
Thank you Andrew Mwenda, some people think thin!!!
I think it's u who think thin.
I agree soooo much with you listening to these people makes me wonder how I'll informed they are
Is nalunkuma your name or you adopted it?shame on you asin is asin
Sometimes, not everyone is able to tell wisdom from noise. These nalunkumas just enjoy when their man advocating for nonsense. The truth is Andrew is guilty of this Sin.
The one who thinks big was left on.the interview
As a South African black male, we have been here, we had learning and unlearning to, both culturally and religiously [depending what is your defence stand point] and tolerance is a result of that process. I. Solzhenitsyn once said "intolerance is the first sign of an inadequate education. An ill-educated person behaves with arrogant impatience, whereas truly profound education breeds humility." Like infedility and other immoralities found tolerance,Homosexuality can too. And Religion, people choose to rely on it when it suits them...reigion is like a pair of shoes.....Find one that you like and it fits for you, but don't make everyone wear the same kind.
@ Brian Chapole There are extremities to human actions and homosexuality is way too extreme
Andrew, get your visa and go to where your value and actions are accepted. Sitting on the platform forcing to accept man lying with man? Another black soul lost? Andrew speaks only on matters as why to accept homosexuality than to object. I see how you cross your legs🙄
Annndreeew? Annndreeew? There's no room for you in Uganda!
I'm glad this isn't everyone because I don't want to dislike a whole race out of terror
@@gemcami7243 You can do whatever you like, the consequences too, will be yours. So have at it!
Hi guys, iam with Honorable Sseggona but i liked the way these guys are handling the debate. This is maturity though each of them is at the extreme of his party so i want to request all other political debaters to show the same manner because this is our country together despite our differences in politics.
Mwenda is one of them
Amazing how religion can make people act like Satan. I pray for the innocent LGBTQ+ people in Uganda.
You can accommodate them plz
Thanks, old man of the clan @Andrew mwenda.
Thanks for the calmness Hon. Medard
Kamara should interview Pr Sempa and Mmale to get a proper perspection on this issue those guys have authentic work and evidence
😂
And t sharts
NTV I do enjoy this program. Would you please provide us with youtube videos with quality image of 720 HD or 1080 HD? Thank you!
Why do people think the West is interested in Africa's development! Should money blind us not to remember the atrocities of colonialism and slavery?
Someone needs to educate that Mwanda man that Uganda is able to trade with other African countries, Asians and Russia. We don't need to bow down to the western bullies just because we feel we're not at their 'financial level'! Geeeezzzzz! Shall we never be free and decide on what we want ☹️
At the end of the day America is a world superpower n the first world order Uganda will regret it eat my words 😂
@@nikozie America has a low birth rate, 62 trillion dept, and now its currency is about to be destroys by the BRICS.
True in the end of the day they are a superpower, for now…
Thank you Segona👏🏿👏🏿
On the question of teacher’s supervising children into homosexual acts, can the Honourable Lady list for us some examples?
These are just made up social media stories to up homophobia.
Well laid hon. Ssegona!
Segona otegaranyooo
We don't gain much in their aid when they send us aid Andrew and few others are the one gain in so secure young generation big up medad
My friend, I am all 4 the opposition, but u are being quite naive. Actually, whatever little u get out there is because of aide. Without enough aide ghetto life will take on a whole new definition
I challenge anyone to find me an intelligent debate like these men, on this issue in the US. Watching men have a calm rational debate about this makes me want to go husband shopping in Uganda.
Don't waste time am here
Lol .Ok. Try to not teach what's Drag queen story hour. That thing ( DQ)exists nowhere in Africa. But I see AAs are doing that type of " entertainment "it in America .
welcome home
😂😂😂
Don't be hoodwinked by their serenity. We do have bigger problems, like corruption. Homosexuals have not killed any one, corruption deprives hospitals of medicine, lead bad roads where people die of accidents, etc. Discussing homosexuality on a national scale instead of corruption is a diversionary political gimmick.
What is the cultural norms and traditions prior to the European
I'm really scared of this world
It is indeed scary.but the only refuge is in God.
Thanks Mr segona and your team for being confident to the issues or to reach /assert the voices of Ugandans
Andrew Mwenda is smart as a whip. Going up against Segona is no joke 😂 great points too.
Three Strong brains
You should say Andrew has been humbled today because his debate had no merit at all. It was someone trying to justify his position without legal facts.
Andrew Mwenda’s reasoning lacks substance
Thank you Segona, we are proud of you
Lets then create laws against all sins in the bible coz we are holier than thou now as a nation...why are we choosing which sins to accept and which not to accept??? Its the hypocrisy for me😏😏😏
Seems Andrew's brain is far advanced than 500 MPs 😂
Thanks Mwenda
Andrew Mwenda should know that before sympathizing the Neighbour, one should first take care of his own family.
Mwenda you disappointed me😢
Uganda has way bigger problems to try to fix than focus attention on what grownups are doing. It's the jobs of parents to teach their chidren what is acceptable not the government.
For the case of landlords, hotels and tourism Andrew Mwenda's point is Valid.
Investers and tourist still go to the Arab countries despite some draconian laws there
They will come
Great Segona, we are not shy? We are attacking homosexuality, mwenda should stop the confusion
He is a confused.
Thanks Mr segona.
Hon. GREAT address
Thanks to Senoga. May God protect our country
This is the most civilised conversation I've heard on homosexuality anywhere in the world
There is a direct link between access to care and diseases prevalence. The parliament should at least have some public health gurus 😢
I’m with Andrew thank you for looking past this nonsensical bill in Uganda You are not an island in the world trust me
Big up Hon Ssegona
Hon ssegoona , thank you very much for educating that old man mwenda who doesn’t have anything to teach and tell the world. He should act as his age .
Hopefully, this will put an end to the flood of Western NGOs sympathetic to the alphabet community actively recruiting in Ugandan universities and offering money to students to promote gay and trans activism.
Ugandans have stated unequivocally, through their representatives, that homosexuality is not acceptable in their country, making their position perfectly clear to the Western world. They can now get back to work!
Been respecting mwenda as an intelligent... big ups Mr .Segona all my respect to u plus been those of mwenda😎
If you do not agree with someone on an issue, it does not mean that you are more intelligent than him or her. Let us be respectful even to those we do not agree with. That is why Patrick has those two on the show
czarne bydło afrykańskie 🤣🤣🤣
@@benjaminssem5464 it does not matter what I do or do not support. My point was calling some one less or not intelligent. Intelligence, is the ability to understand the world around you. Do you want to tell me, it will will be wise to have debates if we agree on the same issue? There is opposition in all things. E.g. Male or female, day or night, rich or poor the list can go on
Because he has a different view makes him less intelligent? You need to check on your intelligence, probably!
Many investor s should stop investment in your country because of this law you all made
SHALOM UGANDA!!!!!!
Andrew Mwenda you're good to dae
For really Uganda God bless you let us leave as true Ugandans
Mwenda's laughter towards the end of the conversation (1:09:23- 50) is soo contagious like I've never seen. 🤣🤣
Where do you stand on the humanity of Uganda's gay sons and daughters? You're next. Why? Just because...
Mwenda must be paid to promote home sexuality
Andrew mwenda OUR CHILDREN
Thanks to Mwenda< such a brilliant Brain that articulates issues with reality not these so called Old folks living underground.
What you should always know is that what seems brilliance in sight of men is foolishness before God So choose who do you depends on
Exactly!! You know Africans and Ugandans in particular hate reality. you will hear someone who believes in the Jesus of Israelites Mbu protecting African values. They don't take time to articulate issues.
I agree
The father is coming back to take what is his🙏🏿🙏🏿‼️
Viva Uganda parliamentary
I have had of mwenda since long, I used to think he z really intelligent and smart man😢😢😢
I think mwenda has not yet come out of his cave. Inform him to read about ,"Allegory of the cave," by Plato.
The law has to be amended.
The same children they seek to protect will change the law in 10 years!
They be put to death before hand it doesn't matter.
🤣😂
This is not just about morality, it's beyond morality! All other vices around and none of them has ever brought much tension and trouble like LGBTQ 😡.
a jakie klopoty masz przez lgbt? to wy wchodzicie w ich życie prywatne i powinniście zostać powieszeni za to!!
because we are not used to it.
Because this is destruction of human race, there are low birth rates in western countries and its a threat that African populations are growing having large populations of young youthful people, they want to suppress that by bringing such agendas to Africa. They are Afriad that Africa will rise again,
So you are basically saying some sins are greater than others??
Of course not that is why there are laws for other crimes too like defilement, rape, theft, underage marriages etc.
The world cup took place even without Qatar supporting These things. Tell Mwenda that even in America, there many states that don't legalise Hormosexuality
You're saying you get into prison in America for being gay yes?
I don't remember Qatar passing such dramatic laws... to bur foreigners from renting a venue just because they know they are homoxual??😮
@@GreenSabre187 You can get to prison in America for being polygamist .You can get to prison for being gay in Russia /Saudia/Qatar/Emirates/Oman/China and no one is bullying them go figure that.
Why should there be room for madness....???
Mwenda if yo a Christian and u visit Arab countries do take pork with u because it's your right to eat pork.... Being educate is not being reasoning 😅😅😅
Next time invite for us Mr.Joseph Kabuleta on this plat form
Let us pray for our children.
Then don't give birth
@@jibril2950 🙄🤡
@Josiah flame because your infant can even fall in a bucket of water and die.there are many ways your child can be in danger not just lgbt
I think more focus of resources should be on all citizens living a basic quality of life than deviation from the big problem affecting the majority to live as humans
Call Ssempa for this Menda Guy
The only valid point that Andrew Mwenda has made is that because we are having this conversation, or debate, it has planted curiosity in the minds of its viewers. And curiosity killed the cat. It now makes sense when paul in the scriptures said, I have made it my goal to focus is Christ and him crucified and nothing else. It makes sense why the knowledge of good and evil was a bad idea to begin with. Unfortunately in this world we live in, these are things we see everyday, always in our faces, and that is why it has to be called out as evil and condemned.
Homosexuality is inherently evil and against nature biblically speaking.
Curiosity make pipo to know the disadvantages in it how can pass food through nose when you have mouth
Yes curiosity has two sides, a negative and a positive, but you can’t control which direction one will take or how it will affect that person. The more curiosity, the more knowledge you want to attain about the issue, the more knowledge you get you either get solid on your stand against it or your heart softens towards it, meaning you become more tolerant. When someone becomes tolerant about something, it won’t be long before they start accepting it and being okay with it and living with it.
What's Mwenda's marital status
Boot rider
Hell no! There is not even one centimeter for the lgbt movement in Africa!
Mwenda needs to be investigated.
I think the comment Trump once made about African countries is certainly true of Uganda.
Viva Viva Hon Segona, u have given Andrew a free lecture and Kamara the host is in class too
This Mwenda is a layer....that premier league arm band...that one is put when rembering some one who died some time or death which has happened....not promoting homosexuality.... Useless Andrew Mwenda
@@moseskanyike5327 no Moshe, that is not the armband he is talking about. The rainbow one is the gay one. Look it up!
God works in mysterious ways
Homosexuality is by nature and not by nurture. Laws with not abolish it.
It exists in all human societies.
What is needed are laws against sexual assault by homosexuals and heterosexuals alike.
I don’t believe that there are no homosexual people in Africa. The difference however lies in nature and nurture which in itself can be a challenge to prove. Seems the Ugandan Parliamentarians are basing their fears on the nurture rather than nature but in the end victimising anything that looks like and or smells like homosexual - hence their woolly statements on the subject. Take the whole woolly thing back to the drawing board.
Homosexuals have been here since the beginning of time and will be here till the end they are born that way. Hilarious people trying to stop it And they never will.
There truth which you also know is that no one is born homosexual, it's all baed on nurture,
@@shanascorner6931 What’s your evidence?
@@Tarubini1 the evidence is you
@@shanascorner6931 🤣🤣 Uganda surely does have them!😄
VERY GOOD EXCELLENT.
I need to know,does Andrew have a child?
😅😅😅 like the way Segona is eying Mwenda
But we not the children that have done that.
You can't give absolutely no breathing room because that's all it needs to spread like an uncontrollable wild fire.
Still at this point. I am surprised by Andrew Mwenda's opinion
Intelligence
Is not only Ugandans that are against that all of Africa are against that
Mwenda super musiyazi 😢
So Mwenda, your interest is more of what you can get from out their?
I like the calmness of Hon. Ssegona. But if I may ask this Andrew who call himself "old man of the clan", how much can it cost to sale your culture. I see you worried more about financial aspect
Nice debate, of course Mwenda kazannyirizi just while Sseggona is a seasoned super legislator and a counsel.
Are you serious? Did segona make any serious points. All he showed was how emotional this law is. Its not based on common sense or for that matter research.....a lot of it out there. I am not gay, but even i cant just support this. In fact as a christian i still dont think adultery should be a crime.
@@MrKasiko2 There is no research that shows someone is born gay, it's just their emotions and feelings, one wakes and is like I feel I am a woman,goes to shop for dresses. Actually it's all messed up and confusing. It's an insult to women, women go through alot mentally, physically, emotionally tht non of these Trans women will understand other than just feeling good in their dresses and skirt
Actually the biggest research done so far points to a complex mixture of nurture and nature... although scientists are not well versed with what genes play a role. They suggest that many genes affect the sexuality of an individual. However, my beef with all this, after examining how the western world makes laws, emotional laws are counterproductive. The western countries have done a great job of accepting Muslims for example even its obvious tht their way of life runs against much of what they have fought for. They have also accepted free speech...not because they are stupid or otherwise. By the way, being gay has little to do with western values. It's just development and maturity to understand tht actually, the other person is not as bad as we think.
But the kazanyikilizi has brought out some very vital questions that sseggona has failed to answer😅😅
Don’t we have more serious issues to debate than this ??
Let us prioritise on the issues that matter most for all than who sleeps with who.
Homosexuality and anything associated with it is a a private matter and should remain so unless one commits a crime and by the way regardless of their gender. There are many gapping holes in the bill. The real test lies in in its implementation. It’s likely to victimise many innocent Ugandans. It’s also a negative PR for Uganda PLC.
Actually Andrew Mwenda annoys me alot inspite of his intelligence. But this time i think he is right. The law makers are mixing up emotions, common sense and in fact disregarding all research about homosexuality. Andrew asked some very interesting questions. I am not gay nor do i find it palatable to my sensibilities. But there is no way i am going to criminalize two consenting adults in the privacy of there home. Actually, it shows how intellectually backward Africans are. It is sad really.
Why disown what you are
Are you supporting homosexuality, if not, what are you supporting?
@@byamuhangifred8291It's called tolerance: understanding that there is a limit to the extent that you can impose your own personal preferences on others.
If the brilliance of mwenda is only seen on homosexuality, then??? Something is wrong.
Micheal. What your saying is right but the problem with us Africans is that we put emotions ahead of reason. Thats why there are people in your replies already calling you gay even after you said you are not.
Damn devils who treats humans that way
What happened to Andrew mwenda
Deid long time ago!
Have u ever seen his wife
Thanks for the show....If a pastor is trying to help someone to overcome the act of homosexuality...despite of him knowing the vice, the tenets of law are aimed to stop the promotion of homosexuality thus the pastor won't convicted under the new since he trying to curb the vice..
Please put heavy sanction on uganda for their homophobic behaviour
Andrew Andrew,God should for give u
Good Uganda to help yo save us this much from the happening of what we face in the world today. In Africa we don't sent children to INTIMITATE the Grown UPS, children have their time yo grow up and grow choosing what is just, good and bad.
Mr kamara today has no words for those 2 brains😅😅
Andrew speaks for the Devil without shame, I sympathize with the family that raised you…..because you’re tainting their legacy
the devil!!! ha ha ha
Bro andrew, don't bring shame on your family, by supporting this devilish act.
You are calling for God's wrath upon you.
I sympathize for your colonial mind that europeans gave you with the ideas around "the devil"