Pro Tip - Slingshots 101 - OTT vs. TTF
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- čas přidán 18. 06. 2018
- SimpleShot Pro Tip. OTT vs. TTF
Here's a question a lot of people have.Which is better over-the-top or through the forks?
The answer? Yes. :)
There is positively no right way to band up your slingshot.There are people who shoot over the top and there are people who shoot through the forks with incredible accuracy.
The trick to this question is like most things in slingshots.You just have to try it out and see which one you like best.
When you try bending over the top as well as through the forks you will find that each has its own unique advantages. You may find that one has disadvantages for you. When you find that to be the case, just shoot the one that works best for you and stick with it.
If you want to master both styles, fine. But there's no need.Use the one that's best for you.
As always, to get out there and shoot and have fun!
Visit simple-shot.com to see our product catalog and simpleshot.academy to learn more. - Jak na to + styl
I am a 2023 newbie soaking up all the info I can, and PRACTICE non-stop is lesson 1. I love my Simple Shot slings and look forward to the journey of discovery....
I haven't even got a sling yet but looking at the gamekeeper ppmg+ ttf because the fork gap is 80x40 mm, the ppmg+ ott version is 50x30 mm.
And now I'm looking the none + version because the frame looks chunkier.
Thank you so much! Have fun!!!
For me they all work pretty much the same at close ranges，but when it goes beyond 25 m and 30m, the TTF is a bit more difficult to aim, the upper band would block the sight, at that point, I don't have a reference point anymore, I was just guessing how much I should lift. For me OTT works better at further distances, but they are all great fun to shoot.
Got the oculus tonight OTT and actually hit the target. For me, that is amazing. May never happen again but it has happened once so had to put it on the internet.
Thanks!
I like the technical details of how slingshots work, especially in video format. The advice to start with OTT I was never told so I do TTF because I feel like that is better for me. My aim can be inconsistent and I think it’s in my release so that’s good advice.
Great company even better owner! Keep up the amazing work in the sling shot community!!
this channel is pure gold!
Great.
Liked this explanation .
I do both have of those ott and ttf and i both like them.they shoot perfectly fine
I shoot mostly eyeline and prefer OTT. On the odd occasion that i do shoot gangster i usually opt for TTF. I've tried the other way around on both and there is a marked drop in my accuracy lining up the band along their skinny edge. My shooting buddy shoots gangster and eyeline, both with OTT frames. Just thought i'd throw that in here.... like you said, "personal tastes"!
With TTF it seems I just have to adjust vertically, with OTT the ball does fly to the left or right. Difficult. I can hit a 8cm target with both on 10m.
I got both OTT and TTF SLINGSHOT , OTT with 6 mm ammo hits very accurate and 8 to 10mm Ammo I use TTF it's deadly accurate , it's mostly shooter how good they are , I don't get hand slap from TTF slingshot . Happy shooting 😀
I had been shooting OTT since l was a kid. I purchased a slingshot 3 months back and started shooting them again. Yesterday I decided to try shoot it TTF and was pleasantly surprised that l was more accurate shooting it TTF. I am glad l purchased a Axoim Ocularis. Might as well buy it's limited addition as well.
Glad to hear it helped your accuracy!
@@simpleshot I been following a lot of your tips on accuracy. I stopped shooting at all the spinners and took a pizza box and started checking my groups. As of today I was able to consistently hit a mark the size of a thumb nail at 25 feet. (That is the max I can go indoor)
Thanks
Getting dialed in with OTT. Bought a Rambini which has a really great snap on hand guard....no more slap here.
Thanks!!
You bet!
This whole thing about taking slingshots to this level is so amusing for me... i have a slingshot but just like he showed.. 1 Y stick and a band... but havent really got myself into this analization. For me it was olny like a hobby, shooting it, but this makes it like a min-max thing where you get lost in the details and numbers of the speed, drawlength, ammo weight, where do you tie the band and sort of this, and after you make this scientifically perfected slingshot you forgot why you made it... to shoot the tin can for 10 mins...
Take this hobby to your level, it was just my opinion.
Have a good day!
you definitely have a point. some people definitely get too anal about every little part of your setup. I've had a slingshot my entire life and never even thought about any of this until a couple of years ago. I had no idea anyone within city limits had ever even held one, much less that there was a whole sport dedicated to it now. I did a little bit of research and watched a few videos and had about the same impression as you. so I said screw it, it's too much information and I've grown up on whatever wrist rocket and tubes were available anyway so I have no idea what kind of setup or shooting style I like. spent maybe a hundred bucks on a torque for me and a scout for my buddy, a few different strengths of bands, some spare pouches, and a few different ammo weights. was worth every penny. it's kind of like darts or pool. true, you can just grab whatever is available at the bar, and that's all most people ever do. but there's nothing like getting that combination of weight, grip, just overall feel that's perfect for you. I'll use a bar cue, or daisy wrist rocket, and have a blast all day. but when I grab MY gear, play time is over. now we just need a sporting goods chain to put in just a small room with a catch box, and a few different setups and weights, so everyone can experiment without having to buy just everything....
@@chriswright8114 yes , I can understand how good it feels when you use a precisional item and enjoy how accurate and fluent everything is.
I got into slingshots because I wanted a small game hunting tool that could fit in my back pocket
Just started ttf, it’s awesome!
Thank You
You're welcome
What size ammo is best for accuracy is it the same for strength and penetration. What would you say is the best all around size ammo in general?
All ammo has the same potential for accuracy as long as it is perfectly spherical and consistent size. But lighter ammo has a straighter trajectory and therefore most shooters find it more accurate so to speak.
3/8 has been the standard for years but some target shooters now favor a lighter ammo. Such as 5/16. 7/16 is an excellent hunting ammo.
I can't wait to get my ordered bands to my Bosnian address....
I was wondering why I have hand slap with ttf and I’m shooting simpleshot bands recommended for 3/8 and I’m shooting 3/8?
Hand slap with TTF is very peculiar. Tell us more. :)
I shoot flats tubes looped tubes thru the fork and over the top. Experimented many styles and configurations. I watched many vids on shooting and rigging up all sorts of frames. What I have not seen yet is a looped flatbands set up. I think it could work just fine if instead of a typical hole in the frame for looped tubes ya just widen the hole so flats would fit. Has anyone tried this. I think it would work easier with strait cut bands. But tapers could work also.
I've tried that mate. Works well but its louder than a whip cracking when the band gets to full extension and the two sides of the flat loops slap together.... Hope that helps ya. ;)
i made a slingshot through the forks and i get crazy hand slap. mismatched pouch? 1" thick thera gold, i made the pouch out of a piece of jeans with a couple layers of duct tape to make it sturdy shooting pebbles
I just started shooting slingshot few months ago and your Videos has been massive help. Question, I hear some people say should use non-tapered (straight) bands for TTF. Is there any truth to this?
Bands will break/fail at the weakest point. A taper has the narrower thus weakest section by the pouch. If it breaks at full draw, this has the latex snap to your hand and not at your face. We recommend a taper.
@@simpleshot Thank you for the reply..
You are very welcome. It's our pleasure to help.
Nathan, please explain to the folks why you prefer to hold the slingshot at a 45 degree angle, as opposed to horizontal (the way you advocate) or vertical.
Also please explain along with that the difference
...whoops...please explain how the aiming reference point changes.
Folks have noted that some of the very best Chinese slingshooters tend to hold their slingshots at 45 degrees, but I for one have never heard of anyone asking "why?".
Thanks,
THWACK!
This video is from Nathan's heart. You truly have to find what works for you. There's not always an answer to "why?" Sometimes it's just what works for you.
For example, more important than OTT or TTF is mindset. If one method gives you a rock solid mindset and another has you timid, there's your answer. If one day you used a 45 degree angle and crushed your targets all day, that might give you the psychological advantage that TTF could never give you (even if it gives you a better sighting reference).
So, truly. Find what works for you. :)
Team SimpleShot
Never had a problem with hand slap using OTT even though, much of the time, I shoot lighter ammo (target) than my bands are made for. Perhaps, it's the hammer grip I use....
Yes, hammer grip will help as your hand is down further.
Hi.....as a left eye dominant I hold the catty in my right hand....even as a newbie I think I’m following proper form....but I’m CONSISTENTLY hitting to the left at 10 mtrs using OTT........any advice please....
Adjust your anchor point to the left
@@seepel hey...thanks for a delayed reply😁if I moved left I would then have a kinda floating anchor somewhere off my cheekbone....BUT what I did do is ....move the POUCH left between thumb and forefinger..so now I hold at the forefinger joint nearer the hand👍👍thanks man
Is it necessary to close one eye?
Nope. Sure isn't. Especially if you are using your dominant eye, you won't need to close the other!
Double Coolio Awesomeness
That is soooo odd. I hit the fork OTT...TTF I can't miss!!
I`v shot lots of Guns in my life.... But Slingshots bring the Kid back... Start of with being safe then just let the Kid come back Have fun don`t stress. Shooting is an Art. Don1t get jangy on it I.E. Learn how to Breathe when shooting very important. Set up some cans and just start small maybe 6-7 feet don`t pull back to hard at first get to know the Machine then start getting further away from your target also watch your grip on you Ammo also very important plenty of great vids on youtube about that... Have Fun
Qual melhor afinal?
One is not better. It is personal preference!
From Bing translate (we avoid Google as much as possible):
Um não é melhor ou pior.
Depende da sua preferência!
I just can't shoot ott, I don't get why, I'm accurate with ttf but shots just go everywhere when I try ott.
im the exact same , TTF im pretty accurate , OTT i hit everything but the target
@@drolsisusej100 I think it's maybe ott you should hold with the forks titled so one is infront of the other. I've been trying to shoot with the forks held level, but watching videos they're never shot like that.
I’ve wanted to try a slingshot for a long time but I keep hearing about people putting their eyes out with bands breaking. Is there any real truth to this? That’s the only thing that’s really holding me back from getting into it.
Wear safety glasses then till you get consistently good🤕🤓😎
Jimmy h Thanks!
that's bs, if the band breaks while shooting your just gonna be holding the ball and nothing will happen, also you will know when your band is close to breaking since it will tear first
@@dermotmcgreevy5220 good information to know, thanks!
Always wear safety glasses
i'm confused i see no difference between ott 1:07 and ttf 1:16 it looks the same to me
TTF wraps around the outside of the forks and OTT wraps over the top, hence the name..
Audio is echoed and kind of distracting, great video otherwise. Just something to be aware of guys. 🍻
Sorry about that.
🌹💓🌹
I've always shot ttf I tried ott and did not like it...
No need to mess with success if you've found it! :)
@@simpleshot I started with TTF with an inferior slingshot. Relearning with a superior slingshot from SimpleShot I decided to start with OTT. I'm sure I'll go back to TTF at some point but as a novice I thought I'd start at the beginning. There are no cut throughs right. Either way SimpleShot provided a great product, very quickly and with great service. And I have no affiliation. They're just solid.
What's your name pal?😎😎😎
I hate handslap, takes away the joy of shooting, therefore I changed to TTF
Match your ammo and watch handslap disappear! 👊 (even OTT)
@@simpleshot when you say match the ammo, do you mean weight? If I’m getting hand slap should I try heavier ammo?
Cheers,
Kane
Yes heavier ammo eliminates the residual energy
Damn I hate that stupid side camera gimmick.
Hi Nathan,
It's Bob again, I've tried T.T.F. and O.T.T. and I have noticed that when I shot T.T.F,
sometimes at certain distance's that the fork will cover the whole target, while if I shoot O.T.T.
I have a clear sight of the target no matter what the distance, would you agree with this?
Yes, this is why most shooters shoot in an OTT configuration. You are 100% correct in your observations!
Hi Nathan,
It's Bob again, I was at skeet shoot at a friend's house this weekend and I made a one hundred dollar shot with scout XT.
Tom took 4 shots at a clay pigeon and missed all 4
Times. Just as a joke I said you can't hit a clay pigeon with a shot gun, I'll hit that pole that street sign is attached to from here with my slingshot ,
(98 feet away) 2-3/8 dia. He says B.S. Bisher if you hit that pole from here I'll give you a hundred dollars. So I let fly and tinggg you should have seen the look on his face all he could say was
Me and my big mouth. I don't think he will ever live it down, but he did give me a hundred dollars!