Thanks for this review. It’s amazing how hard it is to find practical advice on some of these stoves. And absolutely agree about the moisture content. DRY wood is mandatory.
Good video. You really wait to get a lot of hot coals before dampering down. I usually damper down after the first load is maybe halfway burned. I keep the blower switch on the automatic setting so it comes on when it detects enough heat and turns off automatically if it gets too cool. Another tip is to put roxull insulation around the firebox and if you can setup to use outside air for combustion then even better so you don’t send warm air from in the house up and out the chimney. I’d also recommend you install a ceiling fan for the vaulted ceiling to move around the air. Warm air rises so it just hangs by the ceiling.
Hey there, I try to let 1 full load of wood go at high damper so the coals are super hot. Then I move to middle or low depending on how seasoned the wood is that I have. If it really seasoned, putting the damper on low and filling the stove will make it run hot all night long. 20% wood won’t get very hot. 15 or 13% wood is perfect if you can get it. I’m trying to buy wood 1 year ahead that they say is “seasoned” then I know for sure it will be perfect.
Hi Scott, thanks for the input on your video hearing the experiences and such from owners of similar P.E. wood burning inserts is always a good thing. I saw in the beginning of your video you showed us a look at your great room's vaulted ceiling, we have the same type of vaulted ceiling in our home.. Something I did here years ago for both summer and winter air movement and comfort in our home was to wire in and install two 52" ceiling fans on 36" drop rods. This has been a major boon in our both heating and A/C efficiency. During the summers set above 76 it means we are still very comfortable, during the cool/cold/cool seasons of Fall/Winter/Spring we run the fans on their low speeds, actually reversed. We have a pretty standard floor plan 1700 sq. ft. ranch style home with the thermostat for the central heat and air setup about mid-way down the main hall. Today this morning it is 8 degrees F by our outdoor thermometer, it is 73 @ the thermostat. Having the P.E. insert fans blowing the air out into the great room where the ceiling fans catch it and draw it up (yes up, not down) helps to force the hot air across the vaulted ceiling and down the wall and hall. We initially would run the ceiling fans down i.e. draw the warm air out of the vaulted ceiling, but found actually pulling it up and out pushed more heat out of the great room and out into the rest of the home. I also fabricated a wall mount bracket for one of those little 9 inch desk fans and mounted it in the upper corner of the hall @ the great room. The bracket is 2 way adjustable, up and down/side to side this also assists in the heat distribution to the back of the home. Yes I did some "gasket buffering" with felt and softer density antivibration mounting washers so yes the corner fan is very quite. As for fuel, hey we live in Indiana, and I have been doing tree work for years... n years...n years! Pot loads of dead on the stand or partially down Ash to harvested locally as well as a few other species of mixed hardwoods. Ash (especially dead Ash) seasons out after splitting in about a year, hard woods yes you are correct should be given 2 years minimum, flowering trees such as the infamous Bradford Pear Trees even longer. Again the Bradford's are yet another abundant source of a good hot burning wood when seasoned appropriately... Plenty of those to be had round here too, beautiful flowering trees unfortunately very heavy and very brittle, any time there are any kind of strong winds round here there are a pot load of heavily damaged mature Bradford Pears to be cleaned up. As an example on the Ash, I currently have a property owner with 26 large very dead Ash on 26 acres (80 - 100' tall x 30 - 40" at the base) to come down asap as they are crashing apart in any kind of even strong breeze causing a lot of damage to his Maple, Oak, Hickory, and other more valuable trees. There is another 27 acre property with the same situation. Does all of this tree harvesting upset some people, my answer is then do something about stopping invasive species pest...! The Emerald Ash Bore has devastated the Ash trees every where it showed up, just one example of the damage an invasive species pest or disease can do to a geographical group of floral or fauna. Sorry step off my soap box now, anyhow great video thanks again!
Scott, thanks for this informative video. We just visited Plymouth Fireplace & Energy this past Sat & bought a Super Insert LE to upgrade our existing (small) Regency wood insert. Looking forward to being WARM during Pats games in the family room this season!
Thanks for the review. I've had this same unit for 3 years and have loved it. Like your clarification on the damper and will actually be trying this method to get the reburn. Yeah, i've kinda been doing it wrong. Usually haven't put it to the low setting due to my first year getting "seasoned" wood that was not. Smoked up the glass something fierce when i was setting to low. Got good wood now, so this should be interesting to try rest of the season. thx!
In the pacific energy booklet we received when we bought our Alderlea T5 was that you can tell if your wood is dry enough, if when you put a piece in your stove on some coals if the piece of wood was burning on 3 surfaces. This year I am burning 1 year seasoned Birch and it’s rocking our place up in Central Canada. It’s -15 F today
Thank you for this! We just installed the same stove but the "Summit". They said we should be able to heat our house but I'm still freezing in the room next door. Can't get the wall thermostat (7' away from the stove) over 74 degrees. We are burning maple. I will be buy a moisture meter tonight. Thanks for all the tips on the damper and the fan also.
I know it seems counter intuitive but if you put a small fan at floor level blowing OUT of a cold room it will pull warm ceiling air into that room and make it warmer.
Hey I’m debating between this unit and regency 2450. Both non cats but the regency has a larger viewing glass and slightly bigger box 2.3 vs 2.1. How is the super in terms of viewing and size of box? Thanks!
Hey, good question. I’m a huge fan of the window view. I get mesmerized looking at a good fire. Sometimes I put in a color changing packet for fun. I have no issues with the window size, but also can’t really compare to anything else. One thing I will say, I clean the inside of my glass about once/week when we are using it. I like it crystal clear. I’ve seen some stoves that are never cleaned and look awful, you can’t see in at all.
Hey Scott, RIGHT ON about the seasoned wood. Btw what's your experience with heat production without the blower, e.g. losing power? I've read the whole stove gets hotter (makes sense) and then the 7.5" protrusion beyond the fireplace begins to radiate alot of the heat into the room, almost like a regular wood stove. I've also read that it develops its own convection though obviously not as good as with a blower. (sucking cold air through the bottom and blowing it out the top)
Good question - It does blow less heat without the blower, but if it's good and hot it will definitely still push noticeable heat into your house. Another idea, go onto amazon or google and lookup a "heat powered woodstove fan". These are tension-based fans that move as they heat up. They sit on top of your stove and will push warm air into the room. I had a small one once that wasn't very powerful, but did the trick. If I were to get another one I'd probably get a dual fan or buy multiple of these. Good luck with your stove!
The blower is built into the stove. There are 2 separate blower fans. I wouldn’t recommend using without the blowers turned on. It won’t put much heat into the room.
Hey there, stove is still working excellent for us. I’m sitting in front of it as I type right now. We have some incredible 2+ year seasoned wood we are enjoying. I would definitely buy it again. In fact a friend just bought the same one and feels the same way we do about ours. We get little rattles here and there but that seems common with all stoves. I do need to take the top and sides off soon for a good cleaning. I hope yours works out as well as ours did. Good luck.
Other than the occasional rattle, is the blower fairly quiet? I'm looking at getting a Pacific Energy insert to replace my Hearthstone Heritage wood stove--my current stove blower is painfully loud.
Yes the blower is fairly quiet. It becomes it bit louder when turned all the way up. I watch tv with it on at medium and don't notice it. Pacific Energy Summit is great!
I'm on season 3 with my pacific energy and I think i need to replace the fan. It got real loud all of a sudden and possibly needs to be serviced or a bearing has failed. I have a large vaulted room where the stove is located (40'wide x 15' x 20' high) and I really don't notice to much of a difference in heat output with the fan off. I do have a large overhead ceiling fan in the vaulted ceiling though.
Hi mate, good vid. I learned a few things! One question…does your fan make an electrical buzzing sound when turned on? I turned my insert on today for the first time as the temperature dipped, and I started up the fan and the buzz is quite noticeable. The sound of rushing air is fine, and forgivable…but the buzzing on mine is quite annoying. Is yours similar? Also, I read in the manual about periodic inspections. Have you done any? Is it easy to remove the front covers and inspect inside the flue? I haven’t found any videos or instructions anywhere yet…thought maybe you might have tackled it? Cheers!
Hey there, my fan is loud for sure but I don’t hear any electric buzzing sound. I do get some vibrations from the side panels. I found a trick to fold up a tiny piece of tin foil and stick it in between the side panel and the stove with a butter knife. Then it tightens it up and no more rattle. As for inspecting, I did get my flue cleaned by a professional once so far. No issues! My cat found the wing nut under the top flat part and spun it off!!! So I took the top off and looked around. Everything looked good so far! Already been burning this year. Hope yours works out ok!
Hey Scott, very helpful review. Thanks. Are you in New England? I am in coastal NH. Did you buy from a dealer around this region? Any leads? Looks like a good option for our 1800 sf. place. What do you think
Thanks! Yes, I'm in South Eastern Massachusetts. We used Plymouth fireplace and energy solutions in Plymouth MA. This was a few years ago however. This works very well in our house as it is an open floor plan with ceiling fans to move the heat. We are still very happy with this stove. Depending on how your house is setup, I personally feel this is a great stove. Again, you have to use the right wood and use the dampers correctly and I think you will be at 80 degrees all year round :).
Ok now I've got the hang of getting the stove nice and hot, can get the room to 81-83 degrees! Much better than the 74 degrees before. Next question..... The low setting for the after burner, I can have to stove external temp easily at 600+ degrees but when I turn it down to low it slowly starts going out or getting cooler. Am I doing something wrong or is that what's supposed to happen on low?
Try reducing intake air in increments until you find the sweet spot (combustion changes take a few minutes). Moisture content is easily the most important factor with a non-catalyst stove. In my experience, you can be 98% sure your firewood dealer is lying when they say “seasoned”.
Ok I'll give that a try. I bought the moisture meter and our maple is around 11 to 9 percent moisture so I know that's not the problem. How long will it burn at a hot temperature in afterburner mode once turned down?
@@BurgardPottery Too many variables (amount/size of fuel, moisture, weather, draft, etc). It’s something you have to experiment with, which is half the fun. And always measure the moisture on a freshly cut/split surface, don’t just poke the outer layer.
Quick question, I just got this yesterday.. it seems like it takes a long time to heat up my house, I have a Square footage of 1,675 is this because it’s the first fire, or is there a break in. Period? Please get back to me
Hey there - Lots of specific there that would depend on how it heats your house. For instance, is it in a common room with an open floor plan where air can flow freely - if so it will warm up faster. Does it have tall ceilings - if so, get a ceiling fan and put it on reverse to spread the heat (this is what I have)? is it a ranch or 2 floors? For me, I have about 2000 Sq Feet, the stove is in the great room with a high ceiling, but it's an open floor plan. I need to get the stove screaming hot for probably 2 hours before I start seeing the heat circulate through the house. The trick isn't how long it takes to get your house up to the heat you want, but the plan should be to keep the stove going at that high heat temperature so the house sustains the heat. We typically try to run the stove 24/7. When we do this, we load the stove very full (coals need to be really hot) at about 10pm at night and it lasts through to about 6-7am. It does take some work, but if you run it constantly it will keep your house very warm. The other key thing is the quality of your wood. If you are new to this, get a firewood moisture meter (about $20 on amazon). People will sell you "seasoned firewood" that is 22-28% moisture. That just won't burn hot no matter how you try to burn it. If you get seasoned, or even better - kiln dried wood, the stove will come up to temp very fast and keep temp very easily. It's all about the quality of the wood.... I didn't believe this early on and i was 100% wrong.... Once I saw what dry wood really could do in this stove it was a game changer.
I sort of agree. That was my first though too. Not that I encourage this, but you can slide the top cast iron piece forward and the up and it blows straight out. Not designed for this though. I saw that when I was adjusting that top piece.
I have the summit le. I low it packed.. and it runs 700.. do yours get at that temperature when you lower your temperature do you think 700 is to hot ?
crazy how a regular video from a normal man gave better info than all the bells and whistle videos from bigger youtubers. Great video, sir. Thank you.
I appreciate that!
Thanks for this review. It’s amazing how hard it is to find practical advice on some of these stoves. And absolutely agree about the moisture content. DRY wood is mandatory.
Good video. You really wait to get a lot of hot coals before dampering down. I usually damper down after the first load is maybe halfway burned. I keep the blower switch on the automatic setting so it comes on when it detects enough heat and turns off automatically if it gets too cool. Another tip is to put roxull insulation around the firebox and if you can setup to use outside air for combustion then even better so you don’t send warm air from in the house up and out the chimney. I’d also recommend you install a ceiling fan for the vaulted ceiling to move around the air. Warm air rises so it just hangs by the ceiling.
Hey there, I try to let 1 full load of wood go at high damper so the coals are super hot. Then I move to middle or low depending on how seasoned the wood is that I have. If it really seasoned, putting the damper on low and filling the stove will make it run hot all night long. 20% wood won’t get very hot. 15 or 13% wood is perfect if you can get it. I’m trying to buy wood 1 year ahead that they say is “seasoned” then I know for sure it will be perfect.
Hi Scott, thanks for the input on your video hearing the experiences and such from owners of similar P.E. wood burning inserts is always a good thing. I saw in the beginning of your video you showed us a look at your great room's vaulted ceiling, we have the same type of vaulted ceiling in our home.. Something I did here years ago for both summer and winter air movement and comfort in our home was to wire in and install two 52" ceiling fans on 36" drop rods. This has been a major boon in our both heating and A/C efficiency. During the summers set above 76 it means we are still very comfortable, during the cool/cold/cool seasons of Fall/Winter/Spring we run the fans on their low speeds, actually reversed. We have a pretty standard floor plan 1700 sq. ft. ranch style home with the thermostat for the central heat and air setup about mid-way down the main hall. Today this morning it is 8 degrees F by our outdoor thermometer, it is 73 @ the thermostat. Having the P.E. insert fans blowing the air out into the great room where the ceiling fans catch it and draw it up (yes up, not down) helps to force the hot air across the vaulted ceiling and down the wall and hall. We initially would run the ceiling fans down i.e. draw the warm air out of the vaulted ceiling, but found actually pulling it up and out pushed more heat out of the great room and out into the rest of the home. I also fabricated a wall mount bracket for one of those little 9 inch desk fans and mounted it in the upper corner of the hall @ the great room. The bracket is 2 way adjustable, up and down/side to side this also assists in the heat distribution to the back of the home. Yes I did some "gasket buffering" with felt and softer density antivibration mounting washers so yes the corner fan is very quite.
As for fuel, hey we live in Indiana, and I have been doing tree work for years... n years...n years! Pot loads of dead on the stand or partially down Ash to harvested locally as well as a few other species of mixed hardwoods. Ash (especially dead Ash) seasons out after splitting in about a year, hard woods yes you are correct should be given 2 years minimum, flowering trees such as the infamous Bradford Pear Trees even longer. Again the Bradford's are yet another abundant source of a good hot burning wood when seasoned appropriately... Plenty of those to be had round here too, beautiful flowering trees unfortunately very heavy and very brittle, any time there are any kind of strong winds round here there are a pot load of heavily damaged mature Bradford Pears to be cleaned up. As an example on the Ash, I currently have a property owner with 26 large very dead Ash on 26 acres (80 - 100' tall x 30 - 40" at the base) to come down asap as they are crashing apart in any kind of even strong breeze causing a lot of damage to his Maple, Oak, Hickory, and other more valuable trees. There is another 27 acre property with the same situation. Does all of this tree harvesting upset some people, my answer is then do something about stopping invasive species pest...! The Emerald Ash Bore has devastated the Ash trees every where it showed up, just one example of the damage an invasive species pest or disease can do to a geographical group of floral or fauna. Sorry step off my soap box now, anyhow great video thanks again!
Scott, thanks for this informative video. We just visited Plymouth Fireplace & Energy this past Sat & bought a Super Insert LE to upgrade our existing (small) Regency wood insert. Looking forward to being WARM during Pats games in the family room this season!
Awesome!!! I hope it works out well for you. Get some wood now so it can season for a bit. Good to see a local neighbor getting the same stove.
Thanks for the review. I've had this same unit for 3 years and have loved it. Like your clarification on the damper and will actually be trying this method to get the reburn. Yeah, i've kinda been doing it wrong. Usually haven't put it to the low setting due to my first year getting "seasoned" wood that was not. Smoked up the glass something fierce when i was setting to low. Got good wood now, so this should be interesting to try rest of the season. thx!
In the pacific energy booklet we received when we bought our Alderlea T5 was that you can tell if your wood is dry enough, if when you put a piece in your stove on some coals if the piece of wood was burning on 3 surfaces. This year I am burning 1 year seasoned Birch and it’s rocking our place up in Central Canada. It’s -15 F today
very informative, thank you! I'd love to see a quick video on how you get this thing started!
Thanks for the tips. We're getting one of these installed this weekend.
Great, let me know how you like it. Very seasoned wood is key.
@@awesomeaustinfromboston2170 We've run it a few nights already with wood 10-15% and it burns great!
Thank you for this! We just installed the same stove but the "Summit". They said we should be able to heat our house but I'm still freezing in the room next door. Can't get the wall thermostat (7' away from the stove) over 74 degrees. We are burning maple. I will be buy a moisture meter tonight. Thanks for all the tips on the damper and the fan also.
I know it seems counter intuitive but if you put a small fan at floor level blowing OUT of a cold room it will pull warm ceiling air into that room and make it warmer.
Thanks for that tip Big Dave 👍 Tried it out and the room next door is even warmer.
I always feel like I'm going to wreck it or melt the chimney when it gets that hot but I guess it's normal...
Hey I’m debating between this unit and regency 2450. Both non cats but the regency has a larger viewing glass and slightly bigger box 2.3 vs 2.1. How is the super in terms of viewing and size of box? Thanks!
Hey, good question. I’m a huge fan of the window view. I get mesmerized looking at a good fire. Sometimes I put in a color changing packet for fun. I have no issues with the window size, but also can’t really compare to anything else. One thing I will say, I clean the inside of my glass about once/week when we are using it. I like it crystal clear. I’ve seen some stoves that are never cleaned and look awful, you can’t see in at all.
Hey Scott, RIGHT ON about the seasoned wood.
Btw what's your experience with heat production without the blower, e.g. losing power?
I've read the whole stove gets hotter (makes sense) and then the 7.5" protrusion beyond the fireplace begins to radiate alot of the heat into the room, almost like a regular wood stove.
I've also read that it develops its own convection though obviously not as good as with a blower. (sucking cold air through the bottom and blowing it out the top)
Good question - It does blow less heat without the blower, but if it's good and hot it will definitely still push noticeable heat into your house. Another idea, go onto amazon or google and lookup a "heat powered woodstove fan". These are tension-based fans that move as they heat up. They sit on top of your stove and will push warm air into the room. I had a small one once that wasn't very powerful, but did the trick. If I were to get another one I'd probably get a dual fan or buy multiple of these. Good luck with your stove!
Great video. How efficient would it be if the blower was not used? Blower is what your calling fan?
The blower is built into the stove. There are 2 separate blower fans. I wouldn’t recommend using without the blowers turned on. It won’t put much heat into the room.
Hi Scott. Love the video and have been looking at the Summit LE for some time. Still working out good for you. Would you buy the PE again? Thanks
Hey there, stove is still working excellent for us. I’m sitting in front of it as I type right now. We have some incredible 2+ year seasoned wood we are enjoying. I would definitely buy it again. In fact a friend just bought the same one and feels the same way we do about ours. We get little rattles here and there but that seems common with all stoves. I do need to take the top and sides off soon for a good cleaning. I hope yours works out as well as ours did. Good luck.
Good to know. Everyone that has this stove says the key is well seasoned wood. Enjoy.@@twozeroone201
Thank you so much for this video
Other than the occasional rattle, is the blower fairly quiet? I'm looking at getting a Pacific Energy insert to replace my Hearthstone Heritage wood stove--my current stove blower is painfully loud.
Yes the blower is fairly quiet. It becomes it bit louder when turned all the way up. I watch tv with it on at medium and don't notice it. Pacific Energy Summit is great!
I'm on season 3 with my pacific energy and I think i need to replace the fan. It got real loud all of a sudden and possibly needs to be serviced or a bearing has failed. I have a large vaulted room where the stove is located (40'wide x 15' x 20' high) and I really don't notice to much of a difference in heat output with the fan off. I do have a large overhead ceiling fan in the vaulted ceiling though.
How much did this insert cost?
super efficient stove, 88% surely
Hi mate, good vid. I learned a few things!
One question…does your fan make an electrical buzzing sound when turned on?
I turned my insert on today for the first time as the temperature dipped, and I started up the fan and the buzz is quite noticeable. The sound of rushing air is fine, and forgivable…but the buzzing on mine is quite annoying.
Is yours similar?
Also, I read in the manual about periodic inspections. Have you done any? Is it easy to remove the front covers and inspect inside the flue? I haven’t found any videos or instructions anywhere yet…thought maybe you might have tackled it?
Cheers!
Hey there, my fan is loud for sure but I don’t hear any electric buzzing sound. I do get some vibrations from the side panels. I found a trick to fold up a tiny piece of tin foil and stick it in between the side panel and the stove with a butter knife. Then it tightens it up and no more rattle.
As for inspecting, I did get my flue cleaned by a professional once so far. No issues! My cat found the wing nut under the top flat part and spun it off!!! So I took the top off and looked around. Everything looked good so far! Already been burning this year. Hope yours works out ok!
Hey Scott, very helpful review. Thanks. Are you in New England? I am in coastal NH. Did you buy from a dealer around this region? Any leads? Looks like a good option for our 1800 sf. place. What do you think
Thanks! Yes, I'm in South Eastern Massachusetts. We used Plymouth fireplace and energy solutions in Plymouth MA. This was a few years ago however. This works very well in our house as it is an open floor plan with ceiling fans to move the heat. We are still very happy with this stove. Depending on how your house is setup, I personally feel this is a great stove. Again, you have to use the right wood and use the dampers correctly and I think you will be at 80 degrees all year round :).
Ok now I've got the hang of getting the stove nice and hot, can get the room to 81-83 degrees! Much better than the 74 degrees before. Next question..... The low setting for the after burner, I can have to stove external temp easily at 600+ degrees but when I turn it down to low it slowly starts going out or getting cooler. Am I doing something wrong or is that what's supposed to happen on low?
Try reducing intake air in increments until you find the sweet spot (combustion changes take a few minutes). Moisture content is easily the most important factor with a non-catalyst stove. In my experience, you can be 98% sure your firewood dealer is lying when they say “seasoned”.
Ok I'll give that a try. I bought the moisture meter and our maple is around 11 to 9 percent moisture so I know that's not the problem. How long will it burn at a hot temperature in afterburner mode once turned down?
@@BurgardPottery Too many variables (amount/size of fuel, moisture, weather, draft, etc). It’s something you have to experiment with, which is half the fun. And always measure the moisture on a freshly cut/split surface, don’t just poke the outer layer.
@@BurgardPottery unless you're in Las Vegas, your wood is not 9%. The reading has to be taken on the freshly exposed face of a split.
do you clean your flue yourself?if so was it hard to remove and put back baffle?
I do not. I'm too much of a chicken to get up on my roof and take off the cap! :)
Quick question, I just got this yesterday.. it seems like it takes a long time to heat up my house, I have a Square footage of 1,675 is this because it’s the first fire, or is there a break in. Period? Please get back to me
Hey there - Lots of specific there that would depend on how it heats your house. For instance, is it in a common room with an open floor plan where air can flow freely - if so it will warm up faster. Does it have tall ceilings - if so, get a ceiling fan and put it on reverse to spread the heat (this is what I have)? is it a ranch or 2 floors? For me, I have about 2000 Sq Feet, the stove is in the great room with a high ceiling, but it's an open floor plan. I need to get the stove screaming hot for probably 2 hours before I start seeing the heat circulate through the house. The trick isn't how long it takes to get your house up to the heat you want, but the plan should be to keep the stove going at that high heat temperature so the house sustains the heat. We typically try to run the stove 24/7. When we do this, we load the stove very full (coals need to be really hot) at about 10pm at night and it lasts through to about 6-7am. It does take some work, but if you run it constantly it will keep your house very warm. The other key thing is the quality of your wood. If you are new to this, get a firewood moisture meter (about $20 on amazon). People will sell you "seasoned firewood" that is 22-28% moisture. That just won't burn hot no matter how you try to burn it. If you get seasoned, or even better - kiln dried wood, the stove will come up to temp very fast and keep temp very easily. It's all about the quality of the wood.... I didn't believe this early on and i was 100% wrong.... Once I saw what dry wood really could do in this stove it was a game changer.
It's going to take one appliance some time to heat a cold house.
How hot does the top "warming shelf" get on this unit? Hot enough to cook on?
I rarely check the temp but I think it’s about 300-350 when it’s really hot.
not really happy with they way the air flow blowing down in front of stove instead of out into room
I sort of agree. That was my first though too. Not that I encourage this, but you can slide the top cast iron piece forward and the up and it blows straight out. Not designed for this though. I saw that when I was adjusting that top piece.
get mine 900 1000 degres
I have the summit le. I low it packed.. and it runs 700.. do yours get at that temperature when you lower your temperature do you think 700 is to hot ?