How Can INTJ become more Vainglorious or Modest to develop their Octagram | CSJ Responds
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- čas přidán 11. 09. 2024
- CS Joseph Responds to the Acolyle monthly member question How Can INTJ become more Vainglorious or Modest to develop their Octagram.
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I think it's interesting how vainglory ties in with respect. You'd think that vainglory exists on it's own and that it's about how you're perceived (but how you're perceived in and of itself is more a pride type concern) but really vainglory is about the persistent desire to be revered/respected. Respect gives you more freedom. When you show signs of status, you're showing signs of power, which means you are likely to be feared/respected and this enables you to do more without being stopped by people/rules.
I would add that one result of satiating vainglory would be satisfaction (a need from the shadow), because living the lifestyle of your dreams is satisfying.
Awesome explanation, Chase. I for one would like to hear more of what your thoughts are as far as the Buddha is concerned, both cognitively and in general. As well as Miyamoto Musashi and his cognition as well as his philosophy of Dokodo.
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Its nice to have a crusader being a teacher on typing system. The fairness, it is just right here, right there, every types have flaws and the advantages to be exposed and shown. Or should I said "No type left behind"
w-well forgive me but i really do think your intj ex was pretty modest if she was impressed by the salad dressing boxes as a gift
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You explained this one really well bro 🤟
Hey. Great Video.
I could be wrong here, but I am assuming that being SD or UD is not always one or the other, but more like a spectrum?
Lets imagine growing up in a family that is very compatible with your ENTP shadow, but simoultaneously your friend groups in school allows you to be in your EGO and ESFP sub. focused side. Essentially you are learning to be kind of integrated/balanced in your early life to some degree.
Would this then mean in that case that there is a possibility to be 50/50 developed, in essence 50 % SD and 50 % UD.
Or is this not correct ? Because I struggle a little bit to firmly place myself in one or the other, because I can kind of see myself in both.
Do others here feel the same ? Or is it more normal to very clearly choose one or the other as your Development is complete?
So anyways.
Is it more normal that we end up becoming one or the other? More or less like black or white, either SD or UD.
Or is it more balenced? Like very much more Grey area like a spectrum.
I hope this was written clearly and in an understandable manner. And I am probably failing to see myself clearly perhaps, to evaluate myself anyhow,
Maybe someone has an answer to this or feel the same way about some of these question? :)
Afaik: it's as much of a spectrum as being an introvert or an extrovert. If you want to see it that way. Thing is that a person is either primarily an introvert or an extrovert. One or the other, period. It doesn't change. But a, say, introverted person can develop their secondary extroverted sides. So they appear like they've moved up on the spectrum basically, but they're still as much as before primarily one or the other, in this case: an introvert.
Likewise of course everyone has UD as well as SD in them always, but they're also always primarily one or the other. Someone can have their U developed and then later on develop their S and then become UD again. They'll have characteristica and tools of both sides at that point, but they'll still always be primarily one or the other. So yes I think it's black and white in the sense that someone is PRIMARILY momentarily one or the other, while it absolutely doesn't mean that a UD person can't also enjoy the fruits of their former SD and thus from the outside appear like their more inbetween the two, on a spectrum
Yes I hear you and very good question Holmefjord. I think this is much like a macro vs meso vs micro question. It's like on a macro level you can be depressed but you show up to work neutral and there might be this one colleague a day turning on your happy subconscious side for a minute.
I grew up in a typical ISFJ sensor village and family yet when I got to middle and high school I was in this top class program where 80/90% was intuitive with lots of NT's. I think it helped me become more of a rounded person - and understand when, how and why I switch modes.
Great video, as usual!
What exactly is the difference between pushing Egotism vs Vainglory on other people?
If you're an SDSF INTJ do you have to develop or focus on your Unconscious?
Chase in this video you said that Miyamoto Musashi was an INTJ, but i could have sworn that I had previously heard you refer to him as an ENTP!
So which one is it?
Opinions change I guess :)). Don’t always rely on his typing, especially when he does only from a couple of phrases that a person says - it works sometimes but it is a somewhat faulty approach.
He did say Robert Greene was an INTJ, but later called him an INFP because his book “The 48 laws of power” aligns with his cognitive origin of authority, or so he says :). He also typed Elon Musk an INTP when he’s and INTJ.
@alexmatei9759 elon musk is not an INTJ, my man.
He is a clear INTP.
I mean, it's literally obvious. Just look at him! He is definitely an Ne-Si user, and shows little to no sign of Se.
He also display Ti on the regular as well as, being unbelievable informative and responding (background type).
Also you didnt listen to his full story on the typing of Robert Greene. He didn't type robert Greene as an INTJ at all.
Infact, he said himself that he didn't understand how everyone was typing Robert as an INTJ. Tho later he and Raka gave an explanation as to why he thinks everyone else types Greene as INTJ, while he is sure he is an INFP.
He then also said he first thought Robert was SF, but raka or someone said something that convinced him Robert was UF.
Most of the time Chase types accurately, my only major doubts are in a few cases where he is typing someone based soley off a written work about them or an art they created e.g. when he typed the creator of Krav Maga, he kept changing between INTJ and INTP. And now with Miyamoto, it's the same thing.
I don't get everyone commenting on Chase's outfit? Is it really that odd? People please focus on his words. He is trying to help you guys.
This is not a fashion contest.
Chase, you still havent answered me! (Not that I'm entitled to your time... but please do answer)
In this video you said that Miyamoto Musashi was an INTJ, but I swear that I had previously heard you refer to him as an ENTP!
So which one is it? And what changed your mind?
He’s INTJ
Studying Dokkodo changed my mind alongside knowledge of the octagram
Its really sad, maybe you can make a sensor video, when there are too many intuitive ones. Like just 1/6. Just for free. I am getting exhausted of NJ and NT. I know that these doesnt help you earning money, but may help sensors to get more representation and make us seem interesting.
ESFP
Agree there. I’m an INTP, with whom sensors have always been a puzzle to me as they think so much differently from me and would like to learn more about these socially aware individuals. I always found ESFP’s to be great fun, and they are much more abundant than INTP’s.
How do these ppl even have friends
u mean intjs or men who wear tank tops?
How does csj even have friends
What octagram was Friedrich Nietzsche? (My guess is UD|SF since he said a lot of things about hope; and he’s not like the Buddha SD|UF)
i agree
How do I get a bugatti as an intj
Find systems to outplay as a source of income and then drive MARGIN by being ultra efficient. Trading isn't really our thing but investing is. And not in people/startups/corporates but more in real estate. When you move from 5-10k USD free cash flow a month to 20k USD life is getting better but Bugatti territory starts at 60k USD a month. Not because you can buy one but because you will be in circles where people drive Bugatti and they will happily let you drive for free.
Agree. He sometimes says some things that are somewhat detached from reality. I am not sure if that’s because of his lack of Se or Te, but either way, he probably says some interpretation of his own (Si) experience and then makes a faulty conclusion with his Ti only from that experience.
That being said, there are also helpful things he says, like the modesty part which surprinsigly I feel it in myself, so that’s why I come back to his videos. I throw the trash and take only the valuable things he has to offer.
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Concrete types being underrepresented further proves the intuitive vs sensor theory.
He said in the beginning that these types are members and ask more questions and pay more so they are the priority
@@Omar-qt1vfYes exactly, have I said otherwise?
@@dasein9980Connect the dots between what chase said and my sentence. I don't think it's hard. Hopefully someone informative can figured it out.
Well yeah concrete types happen to not be so into this stuff
So as a INFJ I would become closer to becoming subconscious developed if I became more chased?
Yes
wdym? like how? sounds the opposite like u wud fill in ur shadow more
Your explanation of modesty (do more with less) sounds pretty similar to that of chastity. Could you explain the difference?
Is railgun not his wife anymore?
He’s been divorced for awhle
@@SamLeaverwere you the divorce lawyer lol
Can anybody explain what happened?
It’s obviously no one’s biz
Doing his part to prevent fatherless mess with 3 kids and 2 ex wife baby mamas in California and Idaho. Now he’s in Washington wonder who the next baby mama will be lllollll.
Best to not take advice from a train wreck full of shit.
@@SamLeaverlol😂😂😂😂😂
bruh what are you wearing lmao
Se demon
Lmao goofy
railgun's tanktop
Is it just me who is not weirded lol ?
his signature
Omega is for poor people. I've got a nice IWC watch.
Chase please work on your fashion 😞
Lol he needs help from an Se user. My Intp son used to get all his suit and fashion advice from his ENTJ dad. It helped him immensely. He can even perform a double Windsor knot to perfection lol. Of course Chase doesn’t have to since it’s his channel and business. Entp Steve Jobs (for example) literally had no fashion sense but when you’re the boss you can wear what you want.
Is just some Freddy Mercury kind of fashion
It might be better to accept him. Fashion can't be offensive unless it's some avant garde haute couture art that's meant to offend
Its an homage to Freddie Mercury.
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Interesting
5:49 what tf wrong with you