We are learning so much about Turkiye from you, a country that really wasn't on our radar when we began our nomadic travels. Despite the strong foreign presence messing with the cultural vibe that you describe, Fethiye looks like a really attractive place. The beaches look unique and beautiful. You know we love those walking and biking paths. Combine that with the nice laid back people and some English spoken, it looks like a pleasant place to spend a lot of time.
I am 35 years old, I was born in Fethiye and lived here all my life. Based on my impressions, I can easily say that the expatriates in Fethiye, especially the British, Russians and Ukrainians, see themselves as superior class people than the local people and avoid friendship and communication with them as much as possible.
It's a shame that you have experienced this from some of the expats. I would hope that foreigners would respect the country, the people, and would intend to integrate into the community. Thanks for sharing.
Your explanation about every day living in a foreign country is very logical......we are recently retired and learning a lot from you as an adventurer and world traveler.
Hi guys, I just love your vlog! I look forward to hearing from you each month and what you are up to. I live a life of retirement vicariously through you. Happy travels. Cheers, Geoff from Sydney.
Very nice - we never did make it to Fethiye. The amount of British Expats there was surprising! It does look very nice overall though. Thanks for the video, as always.
If you could make one CZcams clip comparing with different countries long term stay such as Turkey and Portugal, it would be great. I like the one you talked about Malaysia MMH2 and how they changed criteria after Covid. Thanks. Happy travel.
I’ve been travelling to Turkey since the early 90’s. They haven’t recently changed the name to Türkiye. It’s always been there. I was a holiday rep for 20 years and I lived in Fethiye for a short time before living in Hisaronu. I’ve travelled all over Turkey and my ex husband was Turkish. And I can say he has never used the term Türkiye. I may have heard a much older person use that term but very few in all my time not just living there but visiting from the UK. Hisaronu used to be a quiet charming little village. Now wouldn’t give it the time of day because it’s turned into a street of night clubs and bars. I have to really search for the unspoilt places where I can easily enjoy an authentic Turkish meal. I hate place where I have to walk past rows of restaurants catered for the western palates. I find it ridiculous that expat’s or even just on holiday would want to travel to a country where the local food is one of the best in the world using fresh organic ingredients, would want to eat food they eat at home every single day! Why go? Stay at home, because they are spoiling it for broader minded, cultured people that want an authentic experience. I overheard a woman nurse talking about her holiday in Turkey. She was complaining because she had to live off chips and soup because there wasn’t enough English food available. Where I find there’s too much English food on offer. Idiots like this make me so angry! Thank god Turkey is a big country where there are still unspoilt places.
Thanks for this info, it's very helpful. We chose to live in a local neighborhood in Izmir in order to avoid many of the things you mentioned in your comment. Thanks for watching!
Nice review and refreshingly honest . Looks pretty nice although I have been to Lake Crapola / Ajijic and not happening .. The size of the town looks good and is still on my list but look forward to the next place you go . Safe travels!
You’re right about the issues with expats.. I’m English and it’s something I hate. I actually think it’s an issue with some greedy sellers (they want to put the prices in pounds to get a bigger profit). This isn’t fair for locals and tourists.. everyone gets ripped off. I think they should make it illegal to sell in foreign currency’s.
I know (or knew, some of them have died over the past decade) quite a lot of British retirees in Fethiye. I'll be quite brutal and honest, a lot of them won't or can't learn the language, won't eat Turkish food, drink Turkish coffee, and don't really trust the Turks. They like the weather and relaxed lifestyle, but stick to the same old bars and restaurants, eat steak and chips every day, and complain about stuff not being like it is "at home". I try to avoid them whenever I visit.
@@marekohampton8477 really? I thought most Brits liked Turkish food.. I know some people who eat English breakfast in Turkey and Spain, but luckily I don’t know any of those.
Great video as always. I know what you mean about staying in an area that has too many expats or tourists, sometimes it feels like the outside culture takes over and you're not getting the culture of the country you came to. We like the area we are living in Phuket as it's more locals with a smattering of expats. We can get western food if we want but we're mostly surrounded by locals. We liked Rawai but there are lots of American expats there and it just didn't feel as genuine.
Evet, biz eşimle emekli olunca İstanbul 'dan Fethiye ye yerleştik. Şehirde çok sayıda Ukraynali Rus ve biraz da İngiliz var. Bizim gibi İstanbul gibi çok kozmopolit bir yerde doğmuş ve yaşamış insanlar için bu güzel. Bu ülkelerin i saçlarıyla pazarda, cafede .. birlikte yaşamak güzel. Biz keyifli buluyoruz bu durumu.
Lol. I spit up my coffee when I heard you say Turkey recently changed its name to Türkiye. 'Turkey' is the correct English spelling and pronunciation. 'Türkiye' is the Turkish spelling and pronunciation. Just like the great city in Germany, Cologne - Germans say and spell it 'Köln'. For that matter, English say 'Germany' but it's actually pronounced 'Deutschland'. Well, unless your are French. The French call Germany, 'Allemagne'. I don't know why the world pronounces places differently, I think it's stupid - whatever the locals call it, we should too.
You make a good point, thanks. In the video I was referring to the country's name change adopted by the United Nations in June. Thanks for watching and take care!
As with other countries in the general area, some are actually removing the English version for everyday use, in English as a request for respect. We do not call Morroco rocko and expect them to like it. Perhaps even Morroco isnt the correct name for the place. India as we call it requests this same courtesy as of mid Sept 2023. For everyone to call it as the original name! Turkiye is n o t hard to manage. Afterall we use stay'cation which is absurd on it's own. Balconia is much better! Just a heads-up.
Haha! We were there for 3 weeks and didn't see most of what you showed. Heck, we didn't even know they had a cable car! Guess we'll have to go back and see all of that. Hope you're enjoying Vietnam.
Thank you! There were several more things to do in Fethiye that we missed as well. It's good that we live only a few hours away so we can easily go back.
Merry Christmas Teacher.....let us know how Izmir is treating you guys...just came back from south east Asia and Boston is below freezing...can't wait to go to Turkey.
Thank you for such an informative video. Do you know how health care works and whether it is easy to find English speaking doctors? For seniors, health care services are always on my mind because it is a foreign country and I don't speak the language. Thank you for any insights you may provide.
We haven't had to use the health care system yet, but from our research we think it is good. It would be easy to find an English speaking doctor and medical staff Fethiye, but probably not as easy in other parts of Turkey
Thanks for watching our video! Although we love Fethiye and would have been happy living there, we chose Izmir to be our home in Turkey. It's a bigger city compared to Fethiye, slightly less expensive and less touristy. However Fethiye has better beach access compared to Izmir. Let me know if you have any other questions and I'll answer as best as I can.
Malaysia has reopened and seems to have been your favourite country to date. Will you be returning there, or spending more time trying to find a new country you prefer? And if you return, will you be visiting Sarawak (with Malaysia's only Christian majority population) and Sabah this time?
@@snailtravelers Do you know that Sarawak MM2H (SMM2H) maintains the old criteria for expats who want to make Malaysia as their second home? You just have to live in Sarawak for 15 days in a year and can live elsewhere in Msia for the other time of the year. I read somewhere that a few expats got their SMM2H approvals this year. If you decide to make Msia as your second home, may be you can check it out more with some agents that can help you do this.
Sorry, we didn't look into or research business opportunities in Fethiye. There are some Facebook groups for expats in Fethiye that might be able to give some advice. Sorry I can't be more helpful.
Just got back from spending a few months in Turkey with the bulk of the time in Fethiye. Yes it's super nice, the ocean is beautiful and it's an amazing ocean town. But there are deal breakers. It's dirty and there are way too many street dogs. I had considered moving there but those two things are absolute deal breakers for me.
We visited in November and the weather was nice. It wasn't warm enough to go swimming but the temperature was pleasant and not too cold. Thanks for watching our video!
We have averaged right around US$2000 per month. That includes everything: flights, health insurance, trips home to visit family, etc. We made a video about our cost of living as full-time travelers if you want more details. czcams.com/video/pHDDyoJ3abE/video.html
Thanks for the suggestions! I've watched a couple of videos about Lebanon lately and am very interested in going there now. I don't know much about Armenia but am always interested in learning new things about countries that I have not yet visited. Thanks!
@Kohar Kayabalian, Lebanon is certainly beautiful but not exactly the most stable place. I've been to Armenia as well and it's a tad bit too third world for most westerns to live in. Georgia is probably a better option.
As a Filipino living in Fethiye, Turkiye, I can say that it is so beautiful 🥰🥰🥰
We agree, it is quite beautiful.
We are learning so much about Turkiye from you, a country that really wasn't on our radar when we began our nomadic travels. Despite the strong foreign presence messing with the cultural vibe that you describe, Fethiye looks like a really attractive place. The beaches look unique and beautiful. You know we love those walking and biking paths. Combine that with the nice laid back people and some English spoken, it looks like a pleasant place to spend a lot of time.
Yes, absolutely! We think Fethiye has a lot to offer and it's a great place to check out.
Fethiye cennettir yaşıyan bilir. Ölüdeniz Saklıkent kelebekler vadisi teleferik babadağ yamaç paraşütü yemekler bunları yaşıyan bilir
Thank you for you very clear and informative video. Fethiye is indeed stunning. I honestly enjoyed my holiday there.
Thank you for watching our video!
The view around the cable car is amazing! Glad that you had a good time in Turkey!
Thank you!
I am 35 years old, I was born in Fethiye and lived here all my life. Based on my impressions, I can easily say that the expatriates in Fethiye, especially the British, Russians and Ukrainians, see themselves as superior class people than the local people and avoid friendship and communication with them as much as possible.
It's a shame that you have experienced this from some of the expats. I would hope that foreigners would respect the country, the people, and would intend to integrate into the community. Thanks for sharing.
@@snailtravelers He is right. I've been coming for over 20 years. Expats have that whiff of entitlement about them especially the English like myself.
@@no-knickers-emma1112yeah but at least we’re relatively civilised unlike the Russians
Your explanation about every day living in a foreign country is very logical......we are recently retired and learning a lot from you as an adventurer and world traveler.
Thank you so much, that is exactly why we make these videos. Thanks again!
Good to see you guys are having a good time in Turkye! I missed your videos!
Thank you very much!
Hi guys, I just love your vlog! I look forward to hearing from you each month and what you are up to. I live a life of retirement vicariously through you. Happy travels.
Cheers,
Geoff from Sydney.
Wonderful! Thank you for taking the time to write this very nice comment, and thanks for watching our videos!
We hope to be in Turkiye this spring...maybe we'll take more time to explore Fethiye thanks to this helpful video!
Thanks! And of course we would love to meet up if our paths cross again!
Very nice - we never did make it to Fethiye. The amount of British Expats there was surprising! It does look very nice overall though. Thanks for the video, as always.
Thanks so much you guys! We're looking forward to your future videos from this wonderful country.
Very helpful. Thank you. Planning trip to Fethiye in July with mom and daughter. Greetings from Russia.
Have a fun trip!
@@snailtravelers thank you🌷
If you could make one CZcams clip comparing with different countries long term stay such as Turkey and Portugal, it would be great. I like the one you talked about Malaysia MMH2 and how they changed criteria after Covid. Thanks. Happy travel.
I like that suggestion! Thank you.
I’ve been travelling to Turkey since the early 90’s. They haven’t recently changed the name to Türkiye. It’s always been there. I was a holiday rep for 20 years and I lived in Fethiye for a short time before living in Hisaronu. I’ve travelled all over Turkey and my ex husband was Turkish. And I can say he has never used the term Türkiye. I may have heard a much older person use that term but very few in all my time not just living there but visiting from the UK.
Hisaronu used to be a quiet charming little village. Now wouldn’t give it the time of day because it’s turned into a street of night clubs and bars. I have to really search for the unspoilt places where I can easily enjoy an authentic Turkish meal. I hate place where I have to walk past rows of restaurants catered for the western palates. I find it ridiculous that expat’s or even just on holiday would want to travel to a country where the local food is one of the best in the world using fresh organic ingredients, would want to eat food they eat at home every single day! Why go? Stay at home, because they are spoiling it for broader minded, cultured people that want an authentic experience.
I overheard a woman nurse talking about her holiday in Turkey. She was complaining because she had to live off chips and soup because there wasn’t enough English food available. Where I find there’s too much English food on offer. Idiots like this make me so angry! Thank god Turkey is a big country where there are still unspoilt places.
Thanks for this info, it's very helpful. We chose to live in a local neighborhood in Izmir in order to avoid many of the things you mentioned in your comment. Thanks for watching!
Thanks for this wonderful video n for sharing your experience n useful insights on Fethiye.
Thank you Yasin
@@snailtravelers 😁
The beaches are beautiful. Thanks for sharing.
Thanks! We just discovered your channel and look forward to following your adventures too.
@@snailtravelers Thanks. I appreciate it!
I think Fethiye one of the best place to live in Turkey
Yes, Fethiye is fabulous!
Nice review and refreshingly honest . Looks pretty nice although I have been to Lake Crapola / Ajijic and not happening .. The size of the town looks good and is still on my list but look forward to the next place you go . Safe travels!
Thanks for watching!
You’re right about the issues with expats.. I’m English and it’s something I hate. I actually think it’s an issue with some greedy sellers (they want to put the prices in pounds to get a bigger profit). This isn’t fair for locals and tourists.. everyone gets ripped off. I think they should make it illegal to sell in foreign currency’s.
Good observation, thanks for sharing.
I know (or knew, some of them have died over the past decade) quite a lot of British retirees in Fethiye. I'll be quite brutal and honest, a lot of them won't or can't learn the language, won't eat Turkish food, drink Turkish coffee, and don't really trust the Turks. They like the weather and relaxed lifestyle, but stick to the same old bars and restaurants, eat steak and chips every day, and complain about stuff not being like it is "at home". I try to avoid them whenever I visit.
@@marekohampton8477 really? I thought most Brits liked Turkish food.. I know some people who eat English breakfast in Turkey and Spain, but luckily I don’t know any of those.
Wow so glad to see a picture of your wife
Great video as always. I know what you mean about staying in an area that has too many expats or tourists, sometimes it feels like the outside culture takes over and you're not getting the culture of the country you came to. We like the area we are living in Phuket as it's more locals with a smattering of expats. We can get western food if we want but we're mostly surrounded by locals. We liked Rawai but there are lots of American expats there and it just didn't feel as genuine.
Yes, absolutely! It's so great that you found the right neighborhood and we look forward to following your life in Thailand through your videos.
Evet, biz eşimle emekli olunca İstanbul 'dan Fethiye ye yerleştik. Şehirde çok sayıda Ukraynali Rus ve biraz da İngiliz var. Bizim gibi İstanbul gibi çok kozmopolit bir yerde doğmuş ve yaşamış insanlar için bu güzel. Bu ülkelerin i saçlarıyla pazarda, cafede .. birlikte yaşamak güzel. Biz keyifli buluyoruz bu durumu.
Lol. I spit up my coffee when I heard you say Turkey recently changed its name to Türkiye. 'Turkey' is the correct English spelling and pronunciation. 'Türkiye' is the Turkish spelling and pronunciation. Just like the great city in Germany, Cologne - Germans say and spell it 'Köln'. For that matter, English say 'Germany' but it's actually pronounced 'Deutschland'. Well, unless your are French. The French call Germany, 'Allemagne'. I don't know why the world pronounces places differently, I think it's stupid - whatever the locals call it, we should too.
You make a good point, thanks. In the video I was referring to the country's name change adopted by the United Nations in June. Thanks for watching and take care!
@@snailtravelers - I just looked that up on the UN website... strange.
Turkey-yay, rejecting the western world
That would make sense.
If my name was Bob I wouldn't like it if someone called me Matt.
As with other countries in the general area, some are actually removing the English version for everyday use, in English as a request for respect.
We do not call Morroco rocko and expect them to like it. Perhaps even Morroco isnt the correct name for the place.
India as we call it requests this same courtesy as of mid Sept 2023. For everyone to call it as the original name! Turkiye is n o t hard to manage.
Afterall we use stay'cation which is absurd on it's own. Balconia is much better!
Just a heads-up.
Haha! We were there for 3 weeks and didn't see most of what you showed. Heck, we didn't even know they had a cable car! Guess we'll have to go back and see all of that. Hope you're enjoying Vietnam.
Thank you! There were several more things to do in Fethiye that we missed as well. It's good that we live only a few hours away so we can easily go back.
Thank you for all this information!
Merry Christmas Teacher.....let us know how Izmir is treating you guys...just came back from south east Asia and Boston is below freezing...can't wait to go to Turkey.
Wow, stay warm and come to Turkey asap to escape the cold!
Great video, as always 👍
Thanks so much!
Thank you for such an informative video. Do you know how health care works and whether it is easy to find English speaking doctors? For seniors, health care services are always on my mind because it is a foreign country and I don't speak the language. Thank you for any insights you may provide.
We haven't had to use the health care system yet, but from our research we think it is good. It would be easy to find an English speaking doctor and medical staff Fethiye, but probably not as easy in other parts of Turkey
@@snailtravelers thank you so much for taking time to respond to my questions. Very helpful information. Appreciated.
Teşekkürler 😊❤
videomu izlediğiniz için teşekkür ederim
Thx for video 🎉 Can you please share what was the last better place?
Thanks for watching our video! Although we love Fethiye and would have been happy living there, we chose Izmir to be our home in Turkey. It's a bigger city compared to Fethiye, slightly less expensive and less touristy. However Fethiye has better beach access compared to Izmir. Let me know if you have any other questions and I'll answer as best as I can.
Great review
Thank you!
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i drem to spend there march april may i need a stydio. ciao from Italy
Malaysia has reopened and seems to have been your favourite country to date. Will you be returning there, or spending more time trying to find a new country you prefer? And if you return, will you be visiting Sarawak (with Malaysia's only Christian majority population) and Sabah this time?
We have a trip planned back to Malaysia in 2023. We are still working out the details, but are already excited about it!
@@snailtravelers Do you know that Sarawak MM2H (SMM2H) maintains the old criteria for expats who want to make Malaysia as their second home? You just have to live in Sarawak for 15 days in a year and can live elsewhere in Msia for the other time of the year. I read somewhere that a few expats got their SMM2H approvals this year. If you decide to make Msia as your second home, may be you can check it out more with some agents that can help you do this.
What do you think is a good business to invest in from your time spent around there
Sorry, we didn't look into or research business opportunities in Fethiye. There are some Facebook groups for expats in Fethiye that might be able to give some advice. Sorry I can't be more helpful.
Nice
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Just got back from spending a few months in Turkey with the bulk of the time in Fethiye.
Yes it's super nice, the ocean is beautiful and it's an amazing ocean town. But there are deal breakers. It's dirty and there are way too many street dogs.
I had considered moving there but those two things are absolute deal breakers for me.
Fair enough. This might be important to others watching this video too, so thanks for sharing your thoughts.
@@snailtravelers Yes other than those two issues Fethiye is a fantastic place to live.
I just depends on the individual and what is important to them.
In which month did you visit and how hot it was ?
We visited in November and the weather was nice. It wasn't warm enough to go swimming but the temperature was pleasant and not too cold. Thanks for watching our video!
Hello Busra. I work at travel agency in Fethiye. If you would like to book some excursions i can help.
How can you talk about Fethiye and not mention the fish market?
how much does it cost to travel the world for 4 years?
We have averaged right around US$2000 per month. That includes everything: flights, health insurance, trips home to visit family, etc. We made a video about our cost of living as full-time travelers if you want more details. czcams.com/video/pHDDyoJ3abE/video.html
@@snailtravelers ok thanks. i will check it out.
Why you don’t consider Lebanon or Armenia? Both beautiful countries to live in
Thanks for the suggestions! I've watched a couple of videos about Lebanon lately and am very interested in going there now. I don't know much about Armenia but am always interested in learning new things about countries that I have not yet visited. Thanks!
@Kohar Kayabalian, Lebanon is certainly beautiful but not exactly the most stable place.
I've been to Armenia as well and it's a tad bit too third world for most westerns to live in. Georgia is probably a better option.