Jan Dismas Zelenka: Missa Dei Fili [ZWV 20] - Freiburger Barockorchester & Collegium Vocale Ghent

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  • MISSA DEI FILI ZWV 20 (c.1740) -PERFORMANCE DETAILS
    Collegium Vocale Ghent and Freiburg Baroque Orchestra, each firmly established as world-class early music interpreters within their respective fields, last December joined forces during an unforgettably successful concert program with the title Bach & Dresden. Concerts were held in Germany, Belgium and the Netherlands.
    Live recording from Freiburg, Germany, on 16 December 2011.
    SOLOISTS
    Christina Landshammer (soprano)
    Damien Guillon (alto)
    Thomas Hobbs (tenor)
    Peter Kooij (bass)
    Collegium Vocale Ghent
    Freiburg Baroque Orchestra
    Marcus Creed (conductor).
    MOVEMENTS
    KYRIE
    1) Kyrie eleison (Choir)
    2) Christe eleison (Aria: Soprano)
    3) Kyrie eleison (Choir, da capo)
    GLORIA
    4) Gloria in excelsis Deo (Choir: Soprano, alto, tenor, bass)
    5) Qui tollis peccata mundi (Soli: Soprano, tenor, bass)
    6) Qui sedes ad dexteram Patris (Choir)
    7) Quoniam tu solus Sanctus I (Choir)
    8) Quoniam tu solus Sanctus II (Aria: Alto)
    9) Cum Sancto Spiritu I (Choir)
    10) Cum Sancto Spiritu II (Choir)
    ***********************************************
    JAN DISMAS ZELENKA'S ULTIMATE MASSES
    Zelenkas Masses until 1733/ ZWV 16 were composed on commission, which means they were ordered for performance on a specific occasion, had usually solemn settings including wind- and brass instruments (flutes, timpani trumpets, horns), and they were comparatively short.
    These three characteristics, on the contrary, are absent from his subsequent Masses . Missa Dei Fili, translated as "Mass for God's Son/ Mass for God the Son" (ZWV 20) shares exactly the same chamber-like and apparently simple instrumentation with the Masses ZWV 18-21:
    SATB soli, choir; first & second violin; 2 oboes; viola; basso continuo (violoncello, violone, bassoon, organ & theorbo).
    Despite their apparent modesty these last Masses, due to their lenght, their high technical demands and sophisticated, innovative musical features, make a monumental impression on the listener. Manuscript sources make clear that the Mass settings from 1739-41 were an act of personal devotion, made for God's glory alone, and thus in a sense works of art independent from liturgical restrictions. Finally, we know that the musical components during religious services at Dresden's Court Chapel were strictly limited to 40-45 minutes. And Zelenkas late Masses, requiring a performance time of 50-70 min, didn't fulfill this demand.
    Missa Dei Fili from 1740-41, also composed on a grand scale, is a partial exception simply because it is a "Missa brevis" with only the two initial Mass sections Kyrie and Gloria. The other late works were full 5-section Masses completed with Credo, Sanctus and Agnus Dei.
    Because Zelenka's plan for his Missae ultimae was so ambitious, and because there are references to other Masses in the project that are possibly lost, but most probably were never composed, some have suggested that this Missa Dei Fili was left unfinished. However, Masses consisting of the Kyrie and Gloria only, a tradition imported from Naples, were fashionable at the time. For example, all of Bach's Masses except his last have this form. (For the relationship between Bach and Zelenka: See my uploads of Zelenka's "Te Deum" (ZWV 146) and Bach's "Tönet, ihr Pauken!" (BWV 214)).
    INTERPRETATION OF MISSA DEI FILI ZWV 20
    Although nothing can be proved, Zelenka's exceptional focus on the Gloria-section of the Mass as it now stands, supports the idea of its completeness. During the whole baroque only Bach's b-minor Mass Gloria has a comparable lenght. Gloria in excelsis Deo, according to the Gospel of Luke sung by a choir of angels on the fields of Betlehem after having announced Christ's birth to the shepherds, is of course the world's oldest Christmas carol. By adding a Credo, Sanctus and Agnus Dei, Zelenka would inevitably have weakened this effect. A Mass dedicated to God the Son (Fili) could in principle refer to countless New Testament episodes, but the link between the title and the musical resources spent on the Gloria here seem to make the compositional intentions clearer. Based on this interpretation of ZWV 20, implicitly shared by the various ensembles that choose to perform it during Christmas, I chose the Nativity paintings in the video to illustrate it:
    LIST OF PAINTINGS
    KYRIE
    1) Caravaggio: Adoration of the Shepherds (detail) (1609)
    2) Govert Flinck: Announciation to the Shepherds (1639)
    GLORIA
    3) Mathias Grünewald: Gloria with Mary & Child (the Isenheim altar) (1515)
    4) and 5) Details from 3).
    6) Geertken Toot Sins Jans: Noctorcal Nativity Scene (detail) (c.1490)
    7) Filippo Lippi: Nativity (detail) (1455)
    8) Giorgione: Adoration of the Shepherds (detail) (c.1510)
    9) Abraham Hondius: Annunciation to the Shepherds (1663)
    10) Detail of 9)
    11) Mathias Stomer: Adoration of the Shepherds (c.1640)
    12) Same as 10)
    13) Piero della Francesca: Nativity (c.1475)
    14) Same as 3)
    + images of the performers and a Zelenka autograph page (ZWV 126).
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Komentáře • 37

  • @rogeretiennedelacruz3000
    @rogeretiennedelacruz3000 Před 8 měsíci +2

    Amazing in its grandeur but it is truly difficult for the average chorus. Bravo Collegium Vocale Ghent and Freiburg Baroque Orchestra for doing such a fantastic work of it.
    My choir sung his Sepulto Domino on 21 Oct 2023 and I was completely mesmerised by his harmonic language. At once shimmering and the chord progression, unexpected.

  • @gerddonni2017
    @gerddonni2017 Před 22 dny

    ❤ Stunning - composition and performance!🎉

  • @dollertwee
    @dollertwee Před 12 lety +11

    Great recording of a fine work. A pity that JD Zelenka's works aren't performed more often and to a much wider audience all over the world!

  • @BohemianBaroque
    @BohemianBaroque Před 4 lety +8

    The very first time I heard this, years ago, my jaw dropped to the floor. (36:36 on) Bar none for me the very best mvt of all in Z's many many choral works. It showcases his splendid energy, counterpoint, and syncopation to the utmost.

  • @alfredosofia5154
    @alfredosofia5154 Před 11 lety +3

    A volte penso che la musica profetica di Zelenka, più che un tentativo di dare gloria a Dio,sia un segno della Sua esistenza.Se questo non piace a chi si chiude davanti al Mistero,invece da godimento inaudito a chi crede che lo Spirito Vivificante sa sempre stupire e commuovere.

  • @CarmeloBonifacioMalandrino
    @CarmeloBonifacioMalandrino Před 10 lety +3

    Come deve essere per ognuno:dare gloria a Dio in letizia.E in una cifra melodica armoniosa e festosa Zelenka lo fa egregiamente.Lo de anche a chi ha corredato il testo musicale con immagini bellissime.Grazie.

  • @cortschlichting5060
    @cortschlichting5060 Před 8 lety +11

    Absolutely a great piece of choral music. The Gloria is just about perfect.

  • @polomokipo6000
    @polomokipo6000 Před 8 lety +2

    JAN DISMAS ZELENKA ( LOUNOVICE 1679-1745 DRESDE ) . MISSA DEI FILI ( ZWV 20 ) FRIEBURGER BAROCKORCHESTER & COLLEGIUM VOCALE GHENT CONDUCTOR MARCUS CREED. Une merveille Soprano ténor Alto basse chœur et orchestre sont grandiose bravo apprécier de Bach et de TELEMANN laisse dès oratorios des cantates sacrés œuvre religieux 22 messes quelque requiem musique de chambre dont 6 sonates pour 2 hautbois et basson un magnificat. Merci pour cette MISSA et ce moment avec ZELENKA Eternel sublime.

  • @RFSJ
    @RFSJ Před 7 lety +3

    This is a rollicking and energetic piece - I like it a lot. It would be great fun and joyful to actually worship with it.

  • @elfriedereichert7277
    @elfriedereichert7277 Před 2 lety

    jetzt habe ich das Stück schon zweimal gehört. Ich bin entzückt. Die Aufführung ist wundervoll.
    Jan Dismas Zelenka ist für mich eine Entdeckung

  • @NachoMargahayu
    @NachoMargahayu Před 8 lety +8

    Not only a great concert but I like the extensive information in the description also. Thanks for sharing

  • @jdzzdj
    @jdzzdj Před 12 lety +5

    Beautiful...Zelenka in all his powers!

  • @adamnoman4658
    @adamnoman4658 Před měsícem

    Sunday, 19 May '24
    A glorious "Gloria," but the "Qui Tollis" is sheer genius.
    - -

  • @myempathy1
    @myempathy1 Před 9 lety +5

    The music speaks for itself.

  • @flemmingranch8777
    @flemmingranch8777 Před 5 lety +1

    Skøn, skøn og livlig musik og koret sang jo duet med sig selv. Rigtig flot......

  • @milanesque
    @milanesque Před 10 lety +19

    Kyrie eleison (0:00), Christe eleison (01:26), Kyrie eleison (06:10), Gloria in excelsis Deo (07:35), Qui tollis peccata mundi (17:33), Qui sedes ad dexteram Patris (28:24), Quoniam tu solus Sanctus I (30:10), Quoniam tu solus Sanctus II (30:34), Cum Sancto Spiritu I (36:10), Cum Sancto Spiritu II (36:36)

  • @victorheredia7185
    @victorheredia7185 Před 2 lety +2

    Amén...

  • @SimonSimon-rn3tm
    @SimonSimon-rn3tm Před rokem +1

    A truly magnificent, pioneering work.

  • @alexandertsatalas5973
    @alexandertsatalas5973 Před 9 lety +3

    Der ABSOLUTE Ausdruck sakraler Musik!

  • @stpd1957
    @stpd1957 Před 12 lety +1

    I listened to it in Ireland on RTE's Lyric FM, it was a magnificent concert, my congratulations to all concerned.

  • @christianvanpuyvelde5257
    @christianvanpuyvelde5257 Před 5 lety +1

    Ma messe préférée de JD ZELENKA un très grand compositeur !

  • @christianvanpuyvelde5257
    @christianvanpuyvelde5257 Před 5 lety +1

    Un chef d'oeuvre absolu ! Ecoutez le Gloria !

  • @jonasstary5895
    @jonasstary5895 Před 6 lety +4

    I love Qui tollis... 17:33 Magnificent music. :)

  • @divinelight777
    @divinelight777 Před 3 lety +1

    ベルニウス盤も最高に良かったけど、こちらのクリード盤も本当に素晴らしい圧巻の演奏ですね!!!

  • @hellomate639
    @hellomate639 Před 7 lety +9

    The Miserere at 28:50 is amazing.

    • @Renee2004lr
      @Renee2004lr Před 5 lety +2

      He apparently re-used the beginning of this for his C Minor "Miserere" which has been recorded a few times by itself.

  • @jameswginn
    @jameswginn Před 12 lety +2

    Wow--I especially liked the tune in the final fugue.....

  • @thierrylz
    @thierrylz Před 12 lety +2

    superbe concert!!!!!

  • @claudiarothschild4032
    @claudiarothschild4032 Před 5 lety +2

    maravillosa!

  • @coriolan1963
    @coriolan1963 Před 5 lety +1

    Very beautiful!

  • @ihno45
    @ihno45 Před 11 lety +2

    Wait five years and look again... I've got the impression that unlike Vivaldi some 80 years ago Zelenka will have his well earned renaissance!

  • @thierrylz
    @thierrylz Před 12 lety +1

    et tres beau trille des sopranos dans le gloria...

  • @christianvanpuyvelde5257
    @christianvanpuyvelde5257 Před 6 lety +4

    Mon oeuvre préférée de Zelenka. Un très grand compositeur, malheureusement cantonné aux seules oeuvres religieuses où il excelle, mais encore trop méconnu (mais ça change !)

  • @arjenbij
    @arjenbij Před 3 lety +3

    19:30 It's almost like Mozart.

  • @brandonphillips4751
    @brandonphillips4751 Před 6 lety +2

    Jesus

  • @floriodivalgioconda9939

    Eccelso!!!

  • @alterbridelius
    @alterbridelius Před 11 lety +2

    Fuga Cum sancto spiritu 36:36