Michael Lombardi: Trading Fields Would Be REALLY Complicated
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- Delve into the complexities of quarterback trades with insights from #MichaelLombardi as he discusses why trading #JustinFields would be a really complicated endeavor! 🏈 Join us for an in-depth breakdown where Lombardi navigates through the intricacies and potential challenges involved in parting ways with Fields. Uncover the strategic insights and considerations that make this trade scenario a complex puzzle for the Chicago Bears. Don't miss out on this exclusive analysis that sheds light on the factors shaping the quarterback trade landscape.
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Lombardi is a walking talking click bait
well said.
Didn’t this guy say the Sweat trade was a D-? There’s a reason he is a former GM
A 1 year GM at that
lmao 😂
Ok. Lombardi has been a part of player personnel at the college level and nfl level for 30 years, and employed by the media for at least 10 years. Somebody had some value for what he has to say. Will he always be right? No. Does his opinion have value? Yes.
This is the same genius that called the montez sweat deal the dumbest trade poles could've made
@@livingforever6157 Hyperbolic takes have no value to me but to each his own. He sucks to me.
Until these Caleb vs Justin debates. I never realized how mentally slow people are. THESE are the people running these teams. Watch Poles Cook!
Whats your opinion on it?
@@mr.nobody9697Fields is the glue that holds a locker room together, if you bring in Williams it's going to fall apart
@@mr.nobody9697 100% our opinion is just that AN OPINION. It 100% means NOTHING. F opinions, I want to hear FACT, not "what I think".
@@19Bearsfansince79it’s a 7 win team, let’s relax a bit on that
@@19Bearsfansince79 You dont know that. The men in that lockeroom have families to feed. The second Caleb shows in training camp the special talent he is that locker room will move on from JF. Grow up this is a business not high school.
It’s either Caleb Williams or the best player in the draft plus xtra picks!!! Easy choice for me, Marvin Harrison jr and picks!!
Y don’t u wanna be an idiot caleb supporter tho? Have u seen the arm angles?
What the fuck is Lombardi talking about? Fields 5th year option right now would be $23 million. They are paying him $6million if the keep him in 2024 and if they pick up his 5th year option to play in 2025 they have to sign him by May of this year and it will be for $23 million. Lombardi talking about paying him $40 million? They can keep Fields for $29 million total between 2024 and 2025 season. That's just under $15 million a year, which is well below average QB pay for veterans. Now if he's talking about a long term contract for Fields, I still don't see how you justify $40 million a year. Either way, the Bears have 2 more years of under the league average contract for a QB and can vastly improve the whole roster trading the #1
And there you have it ladies and gentlemen, which is why you DO NOT reset the god damn offense and set it back 3 god damn years. Let CW go to the Commanders.
Wrong his fifth year is 2025. He was drafted in 2021. However trading Justin Fields would get at the most a second round pick and maybe a conditional pick in 2025. Trading the number 1 pick gets far more from the team needing a quarterback 2024-2026 first round picks a second round pick a third round pick and maybe a player. Think about it
@@stevenjohnson1143 how was I wrong? I said if they pick up the 5th year option they have him for $6 million in 2024 and $23 million in 2025.
@@holdwhatdoor7629 Justin Fields was drafted in the 2021 draft meaning the fifth year is 2025 he is in the fourth year of his rookie contract
The floor is Daniel Jones. Jones got 40 million a year nobody is taking anything less.
Maybe Getsy wasn’t that guy.
Hes defenitely aint that guy. bubble screen boy
Fields ain't going to Vegas come on man one word getsy
Lombardi’s an expert? the same one who said the Sweat trade was asinine
LOL... did he say that
Lombardi may have quite a bit of football knowledge, but clearly not enough to stay employed in the league? Just sayin’
Mike Lombardi Was employed by some nfl team for 27 years, and has been employed by some nfl related media outlet for another 10. He is respected around the league.
@@livingforever6157
May be respected but respected enough to be offered a job 😂😂
@@kennethtrapps3029 his last front office job was with the Patriots when they won a super bowl. You really think that he didn't have any options working in a front office?
@@livingforever6157
He’d have a job if that was the case not saying he’s horrible but his Montez sweat take was horrible and now he doesn’t want to backtrack what he said when he was completely wrong
@@kennethtrapps3029 OK. You've seen half a season of Montez, and you're ready to say what? That Montez is great? He's completed his 10 sack season in his 5th year, just had his first pro bowl selection, and makes more than Maxx Crosby. A guy who played as many seasons, has more sacks, has been to 3 pro bowls and has 3 10 sack seasons. Lombardi may be wrong, but can we see how he plays his first season under a new contract.
SO GIVE EBERFLUS THE CREDIT FOR THE COMMANDERS GAME AND NOT JUSTIN. I GET IT
So you can't fault Williams for having a bad defense but Fields has one receiver and a broken offensive line with no center and he's to blame for his lack of success?????
The salary cap argument is weak. NFL team cap space will increase to 240 million next season and 280 million in 2025. The Bears can have more options than the national media is talking about.
Plus they will have their 2022,23,24 and 2025 draft class on rookie contracts. So money shouldn’t be a factor in determining whether to keep Fields.
@@captain1jones354no😂Bears are only making that move if they are so convinced that the bears can win the Super Bowl next year or the year after that, which they are not even close to competing for a sb contender yet alone win their own division.
@@ranchthetrapper8880of and big If, they keep JF and get a haul and get the Oline right, the Bears are close. If JF takes a leap they will absolutely be close to a SB in 1-2 years. They will have a top 5 D and just need a top 15 offense, that’s possible with a few more weapons .
@@micaheldey1981 even that I don’t think they are close even adding weapons and an Oline. They might make the wild card though. Don’t know why people think the bears are close when they only beaten 2 or maybe 3 teams above .500 the last 2 years?? and are 2 and 10 in the north the last 2 years. Look at the 49ers, they have been knocking on the door for years and still can’t get a Super Bowl victory. Look at teams with elite QBs like Buffalo and Baltimore, they can’t get to a Super Bowl. Would rather take the chance on a really great qb prospect than be content with an average QB. Having a great QB widens your chances of competing for multiple super bowls, not having stacked rosters with an average QB.
Tell that to the 49ers. How is a rookie QB on a cheap contract a weak argument? Theres a reason teams love that time because thats when they can add many FAs as possible. Fields contract is coming up. ITs too many factors for the Bears NOT to take Caleb Williams.
Other than DJ, the Bears WR's were crap! That's why Justin struggled. GB game; Cmet 50%, WR's were Moore 75%, Jones, St Brown, Scott, C Johnson, & Taylor. My god!
Say it louder!!
How much of Justin Fields struggles are his fault?
The Bears pass catchers were at minimum on par with Houston. Stroud threw for 4,100 yards and took his team to the playoffs. Jordan Love top receivers were Jayden Reed, Romeo Doubs, and Dontayvion Wicks. He threw for 4,100 yards and led them to a playoff win. Do you really need a deep dive into KC's receiver core? Quit making excuses.
@@benoitwaffle5439 GB's WR's all ranked by PFF top 60. Houston had 5 in top 100 incl 3 in top 41. Bears 2nd best, Mooney = 107th, 3rd Scott = 115, no other Bears ranked. PFF ranks WR's based on their ability to make a play successful regardless of QB performance. Do you need a deep dive into Mahomes & Kelce greatest all time? KC also had 2 WR in top 80. Do your research & gain knowledge before typing.
@@user-cr5mq9lz8r It is funny how Nico Collins went from a just another guy to superstar when his QB went from Davis Mills to CJ Stroud. What a coincidence! Poor Davis Mills was throwing to the 50% catch rate Collins. It is just bad luck he didn't get this one. It is also just so amazing that a rookie 5th rounder, rookie 2nd rounder, and second year 4th rounder just so happened to help lift a first time starting QB to 4100 yards and a playoff win. It is the WRs elevating the QBs, not the other way around. Sure. It is right up there with the Bears sack rate doubling when Fields is taking snaps as opposed to any of the others from the past three years. Some QBs just have all the luck.
Michael Lombardi = the GM that drafted JaMarcus Russell.
"Football Done Right."
Jamarcus was drafted in 2007. Michael Lombardi was employed with the raiders till 2006.
@@livingforever6157he drafted Russell…. So know your shit before calling someone out
@@scgtyur 2006 was the last year he was employed by the raiders. 2007 JaMarcus was drafted. Look it up. I wish fans would do their research before saying things.
Lombardi was officially fired May 7, 2007, but they had brought on someone else who was handling most of his work already. So while he was still technically with the team, I doubt he had much input on drafting Russell.
@@runnin3216bullshit. Those scouting grades were done over the winter. I’m sure he had him high on his board.
What about the defenses that Williams played in the PAC, no school in that conference plays defense! So honestly how does anyone say this kid is the next coming of Elway🤯🤨
Agreed.
Its not a question about whether Caleb becomes the next Elway. The question is will the bears consider drafting a quarterback in relation to their competitiveness in the division, and the contract you'd have to pay him in order to keep him. The answer to that would be yes.
Mac Jones played against great defenses in college and won a championship so you want him as your pro quarterback? Let's put things in perspective
They scored a ton of points in conference games. Their defense was awful. He literally had one bad game last season, and people think he's going to be a bust.
JF1 + DJ +MHJ is dangerous 😳
Miss the playoffs again
Your head is a chrystal ball, 🤔
He can't get the ball to his second read, so not dangerous at all. Let's don't bring up third read, that doesn't exist. Great athlete, way below average QB.
@@Mr.Perry33They might make the playoffs but they'd be one and done because Fields is garbage under pressure. Couldn't even perform under pressure of CHI vs GB but he can handle the postseason?
Lombardi also said Sweat isn’t worth trading for. We all know how that take played out… 🤦🏻♂️
I get the idea of waiting to get him at free agency and not giving up a second rounder.
@@timothyingold8248it’s no guarantee that they could’ve got him in free agency.. ppl have to want to come in free agency for it to work
@@timothyingold8248 we never would have gotten him if we waited. Plus we’re gonna trade the #1 pick to Washington and recoup that 2nd rounder we sent in Sweat trade. So basically we stole him from Wash, not to mention he was the catalyst that sparked our D to be a top 10 down the stretch in ‘23. 💪🏼
@@adamimhofThe defense was top 3 overall once Sweat arrived through the end of season in that time. Bears defense will be ELITE in 2024 🔥
What he said makes no sense…lol… why would Getsy not wanting Justin affect other teams… oh boy.
Depends on what teams are looking for. Can Fields pick up a pro-style offense? Would he continue to struggle doing the things that he has struggled with his entire career? Can he win the job over a qb that may already be there?
ML has lost his mind lol
Getsy was let go and he signed with another team. If the guy who ran your system is not wanted then it suggests that he was not as good as the system he was playing in.
This guy is not so smart. He says if the Raiders aren’t interested everyone else is going to think there’s something wrong with Fields. Ummm, obviously Fields and Getsy were not a good pairing. So why would the Raiders want to pair them back up? Whoever trades for Fields needs to feel like they understand how to run an offense with a talent like him.
Poles trading Fields makes Tyson Bagent QB1. That is not going to happen. Eberflus and Poles watched the Superbowl looking at Mahomes getting sacked in the pocket and then winning the game from behind passing outside the pocket!
Do exactly the opposite of what this BAD GM says
Isn’t he the one that said the sweat trade was bad? Can definitely see why he’s not a Gm in the league
@1:04 What's this guy talking about... Moore had his best season under Fields.
Waddle and silvy instigating 😂😂
They are horrible!!
Why do they keep saying Justin has to get paid a lot of money if they keep him when that’s not true? The media says anything. I’m keeping fields trade pick to the highest bidder and make this team better through the draft.
.Kurt its about Justin s agent..he has history of highest paid for his clients..my math: 15 million for RB and 25 for throwing😊 just my beats math.. to me
1. Justin to DJ is QBrating of 129 no interceptions
2. .Marvin can duplicate DJ numbers..6.4 22mph no one can catch him...and he can block!
3. Address the Center ..4 good ones to choose from
4. A new TE for Waldron 2 WR 2 TE scheme
5. A 3 tech Dlineman Veteran sign and draft another
6. Draft best guards and tackles on offense available
7. Draft best D Linemen available
Facts, won’t have to pay him for many years
ahhh hell nahhh ! can’t believe he was roasting my boy kap 😂
Why was Kap not interviewing Mike Lombardi
Outstanding Mr Lombardi. Thank you .
Lombardi 1st round picks
07"JaMarcus Russell
08" Darren McFadden
09" Darrius Heyward-Bey.
"Football done right"
All these so called experts saying uninformed comments is ridiculous. They should do their HW and check Caleb Williams numbers under pressure before saying things.
Literally
exactly. These fools act like they know something. thats why they are reporting the news and not making the news.
You haven't had to deal with a player that chooses his path because the players didn't get paid in college. They do now they can sit out a year or do whatever they want
Guess you were born after the 80s
@@denniscarney5249 How stupid are you? I'm talking about getting paid by colleges now that it's legal.
He is FORMER for a reason.
Caleb is the truth! Any gm would be lucky as hell to get him.
Asking if the Montez trade is still dumb?🧠🤯🔫
😂
ESPN did a redraft of last year’s draft. The Packers have 6 of the Top 63
Nobody’s gonna pay attention to see if the raiders are interested in fields 😂 stupid take
per usual
Michael Lombardi is always a great guest. 👍
Why did I have flashbacks to the Jerky Boys during most of this segment? So Hilarious!
One of the more logical free agency mocks really like the guys from the 49ers & KC's punter
I’m not a Lombardi fan but I must admit that was funny. We Bears fans have to be objective and be open to outside opinions and not take things so personally.
Fields stans will attack anyone who will not say Keep Justin and build around him. It's an instant attacks.
@@Freddy_Krueger91 I'm a Fields fan and supporter, but I understand what's coming and why.
Kapamania!!!!!!
Fields doesn't like Getsy. That is why he wouldn't go to Vegas.
Does anybody ever think what if Justin fields played for Lincoln Riley?
Caleb's back up looked generational in that bowl game.
RIGHT???? And he was behind a dude that transferred to Boise state.
Have you ever thought how silly it would have been for Caleb Williams to throw to Garrett Wilson and Chris Olave in college? Who needs a QB who can read a defense and make timely decisions when they have those guys.
@@benoitwaffle5439 does cd lamb count?
They keep interviewing guys that speculate
We need Justin Fields to complete this build up.
Watching this show and hearing some of their points are cringy .😅 lol and yall being instigators
this
No. Raiders interest or lack thereof has no baring on Fields value. It's simply a relationship that didn't work, somebody else will always be interested.
Media sucks anymore
Bear fans got to support poles decision no matter what .If it's Williams we got to get behind him so he feels like he's wanted by us bear fans give the kid a chance
Justin Fields had a Pro Baseball Contract, he was a stud at baseball also.
When it comes to JF and the bears 1st pick it’s all poker face.. lol
Lombardi knows what we all know. Having to settle for a 2025 conditional draft pick would be disappointing.
Lombardi is an idiot on the sweat trade analysis but he got a point about the Mitch thing
No one is going to want JF unless you accept a 3rd rounder or less. If I were the Bears, I would accept a 3rd rounder.
Tyson Bagent is QB2. He is not ready to become QB1 but will do much better then Jordan Love who is in his fourth year. 🐻⬇️🧆🏝️
I honestly think we're gonna trade the pick but still draft a QB and trade fields
Let’s say the bears keep Justin on the 5th yr opt and he has a break out year then you’ll have to pay more! I know you see Jaylon now Max Contract!
Kaplan ain't lying. 😂😂
Why isn't he in a front office 🤔
Lombardi is a dope
Franchise tag!!!!
Fields after 2025? What's wrong with you? He would be getting paid the average of the top 3 highest paid QBs in the NFL. He isn't worth that at all.
Notice how Lombardi didn't even touch the Mannings' and the draft coup that they pulled.
I am waiting to hear them invite a guest that would talk about the need to bring in someone to replace them because of this or that. Well can pay them less n see how they feel?
I can’t believe Lombardi just pulled the “I have more football knowledge than you” 😂. He is an idiot.
He’s like a crazy ex girlfriend :
Just says / does the exact opposite thing that you SHOULD
Did the Bears hurt him once?
David is right about him.
Lombardi destroyed kap. 😁🤣😂🥳
I just got off the phone with Adam Schefter, the Bears are keeping Fields.
The Raiders are the indicator as a value? They just hired Luke Getsy. Why on earth would they want Fields? I can see him go to Pittsburgh or Atlanta if he does get moved.
Justin's 5th year option is 27M what the heck is he saying!!!! SMH
Why are the raiders relevant? They have Getsy. Highly doubt they try to reunite those 2.
Didnt Caleb Williams grt sacked 83 times in his 3 year college Career?? And he played against a much lower competition.. I am still reeling from how mentally behind so many people are. The entire locker room already said they want Justin back and they have heard even if its wrong that Williams doesnt want to play for them but we are going to ignore that... Dont these guys play harder for the guys who are better leaders?? If Williams only wins 4 or 5 game this season do you expect in anyway that the coaching staff keeps their job?? So throw Caleb in the same situation like Mitch, and Justin in a locker room that isnt really feeling him. If I were his agent I will do everything to avoid destroying my clients chances of ever getting a 2nd contract because this is a career killing move
What are they supposed to say? No we hate him, he isn't a good passer, he is the worst rated qb in the 4th quarter when the game is on the line, in 38 games he had 1 (One) game winning or tying drive. Are you kidding me? No one is going to push their own team mate under the bus! Caleb is a great QB decent athlete, Justin is a below average nfl QB excellent athlete. I'll take the great QB every day of the week and twice on Sunday!
@@attilasuto6013 You are a genius, 31 Fumbles in 34 games with 83 sacks in 34 games all against lower competition but he is great.. You are not worth the debate the second you called a college QB a great NFL QB. If you wanted to be fair compare Caleb Tape to Justin Tape and then we have an apples to apples comparison
@@k-sizzlereacts4896 Reading comprehension is a skill that you haven't mastered yet! I never said that Caleb is a great NFL QB. Read and try to understand my previous statement again. Then apologize for your lack of reading comprehension skills.
You want to compare Justin's college stats with Caleb's. By all means let's do that. You seem to forget that Justin had 4 first round draft choice wide receivers at Ohio State, and a stacked oline that gave him time to throw, this year Caleb's team has 2 projected third round picks, one is a defensive back, the other is Jerry Rice's son at receiver. That's it, the rest of the team sucked, they might have a few more late round picks, nothing more. So there is no apples to apples comparison no matter how you slice it! The only thing I can tell you is when Caleb had 1 decent receiver and still a crappy defense and oline he won the Heisman. That receiver is now in Minnesota picked in the first round.
The fact that Justin is the worst rated QB in the 4th quarter in every category in the NFL can not be ignored, not even by a Justin Fields' maniac blinded fan like you. (He won 5 games out of 13, what an achievement) 61% completion rate, can't anticipate, can't read zone defense, can't throw short to intermediate throws in the middle of the field, long delivery motion, slow drop back, doesn't have touch passes. We would be lucky to get a second round pick for him. Our division 2 undrafted rookie free agent went 2 and 2 with the same players. Haha.
U CAN PLAINLY SEE Y THIS DUDE 8S A FORMER GM
You can rule out Justin Fields returning…or hell, making it to April with the team
Everything this man said about the Bears was wrong this segment.
Lombardi 🤔Al Davis knew who he was 100%
BRO!!!! 😂😂😂😂😂 Getsy was the one calling horrible play calls!!!!!! IF FIEDLS WAS THE PROBLEM THEN WHY FIRE LUKE?!?! IF I JUSTIN I DONT EVEN WANT TO GO ANY WHERE LUKE IS AT!
Why in the hell would luke want fields ? Lol 🤣
Ryan do the opposite of whatever Lombardi says please.
Why would the raiders and getsy want the guy that helped get him fired....Also i havent scouted him but he looks fantastic on tv... lost me right there
There is no way the Raiders trade for Fields. He already got Getsy fired once ...
😂
Getsy got himself fired
You mean having a 160lb WR block a 275lb DE consistently didn’t get him fired?!
@@acbc2001 exactly
@@acbc2001 or calling 9 wr screens in a row. or refuse to call plays down field
The Broncos need to trade for Fields. If he can't make it work with Sean Payton and their weapons then he ain't going to make it. Every team can't have the Dolphins weapons
It's really easy actually -- take whatever you can get for him.
Damn u would be a dumb GM🤦🏾♂️
Why do they talk to these guys that says these stupid things about players. He pass up on Patrick Mohomes.
Tannebaum is an idiot. He always talks about the salary thing. Being a GM is so much more than that. There’s a reason he’s not a GM anymore.
The rookie QB thing is a myth too. Most teams don’t win on the rookie contract. That’s only happened to like 20% of Super Bowl winners in the last 20 years.
I’m an idiot for having clicked on this video. Won’t happen again.
Don't rule out that a Bears GM will fumble the bag......got it....
@Abcdefghijklmnopqrstuvwxyz0000 99% of the league will be rebuilding by then. That doesn't change the fact the Bears have the worst Qb in the NFC north.
Getsy was horrendous. All these so called experts need to just quit their day jobs
They will invite anybody on their show who says no to Justin. Lombardi still living off his last name 😂
Wow they put thumbnails... like it's a video supporting Justine fields.... and then have some one with no sense bash Justine.......
America is not USA
Why would any Chicago radio or podcast have this guy on there show he's a bears hater
Please trade Justin to a team like Atlanta with all the WR. Justin fields didt fail the bears the bears office GMs faild him.
I’d draft Mitch over russel
How about keep Justin Fields and draft Caleb Williams as well. Have Caleb Williams sit for a year behind Justin and then when Justin starts sucking you put Caleb in.
Some of the blame has to also be the play calling. Not Fields fault if he has to throw a quick throw either to the left or right to a WR who's at the same yard mark as Fields and the WR gets tackled for no gain or a loss.
It's never Fields fault.
Michael should man up and take the L on his Montez Sweat take. Doubling down when youre already proven wrong is....
U can't bring back the coach and not Justin Fields...smh Make it make sense then lol
The whole bears radio crew wants caleb smfh
Draft Caleb an regulate ur self to being in qb hell let Justin go to Atlanta an win super bowls while you cry about not keeping him.
Eli manning
I hate listening to people who don't watch the Bears talk about the Bears. This dude is a lazy terrible take guy. Always has been. Smh
World class instigating.🤣🤣🤣