@ProductFRED Read both of your comments and you definitely said it. I went back to the Evo and I feel like I can't possibly be happier. I just love it.
@stedman10 To fix the problem, push the button instead of tapping it. This can be annoying, but at least the buttons respond every time when you do this. There's a setting to have the button backlight turn off at the same time as the screen too.
@Panofobia Your comment is a tad bit harsh. AMOLED is not SAMOLED and there have been no problems producing Super Active Matrix Organic Light Emitting Diode screens as this is Samsung's patented technology and it's currently only used on the Galaxy S phones and will not be used by another company for a while.
Funny you mention that actually. One of my relatives has an Epic and they too complained about it after the 2.2 update! They said they liked it better when it was on Eclair.
@Panofobia It's called insurance. SAMOLED is a trademark of Samsung and they will never run out at this point because only their phones use it. I used an EVO this week (after bringing mine back to the store) and I just didn't care for it anymore. Everyone's entitled to their opinion. Although, you don't really have an excuse to use criticize the Epic if you only held it for 2 seconds. I modded mine to look like an EVO and it still has more options.
@aarodynamik Actually, it is 3.0. To confirm this, I checked the system dump for the Epic and everything is there. Samsung just hasn't enabled it because of the landscape orientation. The epic's processor is far superior to the EVO's. Just because they're one ghz doesn't mean anything. I've owned both phones and ran benchmark tests on both to confirm this.
@Dredghill Well now, I've had no problems with a 4" screen, let alone a 3.5" iPhone screen. 4.3" may seem huge, but it doesn't make a difference when you're performing daily tasks. BTW, the keyboard is a nice addition, but not too necessary. Suit yourself, your opinion.
@jaymoneyman100 to be completely onset, they're both equal in a way. I really think its down to personal preference. I liked the Evo better, but the Epic does outperform the Evo with anything to do with graphics.
@Zea645 Man, I remember opening up that EVO box of the first time. Sense UI with a sleek, huge, shiny phone. Man was I excited! Way better than my iPhone 3G S (which is finally out of my possession!)
@Davidwilson1212 Agreed. I don't understand why companies don't focus on skinning and improving the apps instead of giving us dual-core processors for a phone with 3 hour battery life. I mean, it's really awesome and that's why I got the EVO (since it was unique at the time), but from what I see, Apple focuses more on quality over quantity. I'm not saying that Android phones are cheaply made, but I do hear many "fragmented" complaints as opposed to the consistent complaints with the iPhone.
Oh, this isn't biased at all! When it really comes down to it, it all depends on what you need on your phone. Keyboard and Media? If you have the extra $50, then go ahead. Want Sense, a bigger screen, and a more tablet-like phone? Don't have the extra $50? Go Evo. BTW the framerate cap was removed. Both phones are excellent - look at your needs. All the other things you want can be loaded on by rooting.
@Panofobia I didn't say that you don't. I simply said that 2 seconds in most cases is not enough to criticize something. But whatever, not trying to make enemies with people who like the EVO. All in all, I can say that both of them are great. I'm curious to see why you think the Epic is boring. My counterpoint was that it's possible to add some mods to make it function like the EVO.
@Zea645 No problem with that! I made a parody here, so obviously, you could get around the basic problems. I have the Epic 4g now, and it works better for me.
@Yankeeboy254 Said the same thing too. Argh, they are both so good, I probably couldn't be too happy with either as I'd always be eyeing the other one. :)
@AztlanFrost I've owned an Evo before and must say that it was an awesome phone. I put this video up because I thought it'd be interesting to see if anyone decided to put up a video against the Epic. :)
@exec228 It wasn't a mimicry and it was made for my fellow users down at AndroidCentral before the Epic had come out. These aren't meant to be proved as they were a joke. Lighten up a bit, will ya? :D
@AztlanFrost Nope, someone else made that one :) I don't have enough experience with the iPhone 4...yet. However, I believe the author of that video was thinking the same thing as he posted arguments for both sides. I'm hoping someone else will be willing to post an EVO side to the video.
@aarodynamik ran the top 3: linpack, quadrant, and neocore. You're right though, but I think the Hummingbird slightly edges out, but of course, why does it matter when you have root, memory management apps, and everything else good about Android? Both the phones are so good, that it's really impossible to go wrong. The only difference: keyboard or no keyboard: your call :)
@eddieperez100 That was a different guy. This video was made mostly for the people at the AndroidCentral forums. We are Epic 4g users, but I wanted them to have a laugh as we had to wait a REALLY long time for the phone to come out. It's all a joke. The Evo's a great phone.
@stedman10 I know! Mine came in yesterday too! It's beyond awesome. IMO it's way better than the EVO, even though the EVO is still a good phone. Thanks!
@Panofobia There ya go. Now I can completely agree with you. I'm not trying to be biased in my comments, but sorry if it looks like it (because it really does look like it). I keep thinking about my former EVO and want it back more and more, but I don't have that option, so the Epic will suit me for now.
both the evo and epic are amazing. until my dad got an epic and i saw it, i loved the evo more than any other phone. i really really want to get an epic but my second choice will always be the evo or the moment
@nrmc784 IMO the Evo is the best phone I have ever owned and will not get rid of it. I rooted and installed Fresh and am quite happy with that. I want to get CM6 on it, but I've been a little lazy lately lol :)
@navalwater123 They are both so good, I really doubt one could go wrong and make a serious mistake. It really comes down to preference. I have access to both so it is really nice.
@MrGarrykf tell that to the millions of happy customers of their TVs and home appliances. The phone rocks by the way, but HTC is really awesome company too.
@Mzee1084 So do I. I'm on Sprint unfortunately, so I can't really try out the droid series, but from what I here, they are REALLY good phones, so when I move to Verizon after my contract's up, I'll definitely want to try out the next gen. of Droid :)
@zionistboy You can install Swype on the Evo, you can do DLNA using TwonkyServer (DLNA is Wifi-based), it has a bigger screen, dual LED flash, both cameras are better, and it FEELS like a premium device. Plus, HTC supports their phones long after their shelflife, unlike Samsung. And to top it off, all at $50 less than the Epic. I was going to buy the Epic but I'm so glad I made the right choice and got the Evo. So what if the Epic has a better GPU. It's a PHONE. The Evo is better at real stuff.
@idi0televisi0n Well stated. I've lost hope in both phones. I don't like my Evo anymore, nor did the Epic satisfy my needs. The DInc is already considered end-of-life and it's only been a year. These phones update to fast for me! I agree though, I can't believe it took the Epic THIS long to update. Others might be okay with it though.
@kazper333 I won't be switching to Verizon until maybe a year to year and a half from now. The only reason I would is because I'm moving in the summertime and Sprint's service is not nearly as good as Verizon's there. However, I still won't switch until my contract ends.
@Davidwilson1212 I'm starting to feel the same way actually. I follow the updates and they are all the same except for maybe processor and a couple of other things. It's always 5 or 8mp camera, 800x480 screen (except if you are lucky with the 856x480 screen), Snapdragon processor for many of the phones. It's like, "come on! I could care less about your darn 800x480 screen! Give me retina please! Give me a darn gyroscope!). I agree with the market. I loved it until they added the 15 min return.
@acrh22 Hi, the video is a joke. I HAVE an EVO since it worked better for me than the Epic. I made this video since I used to be the moderator of the Samsung forums down at AndroidCentral. The Epic's launch was pretty late so to spice things up, I made the video and challenged the EVO moderators to make a video to counter this. That never happened though, so Epic owners can still enjoy. Laugh every now and then. Both phones are great, but the EVO's the one I chose.
@canadia7x I felt the lack of customization of my home screen a downer the thickness the bloatware was unbearable. I'm not saying it's not a good phone just not for me.
@canadia7x Yeah, but Touchwiz adds almost no functionality to Android whereas Sense adds and improves on a lot. So what if it has a better GPU? Both phones have bad batteries, so 3D games are out of the question. You don't need more than an Evo to play Angry Birds (for example). And like I said, the Evo adds features where they really count; a full-screen web-browser, a better dialer, better camera, etc. Overall, I just feel like HTC builds very solid devices and Samsung...abandons theirs.
@canadia7x Yea, I cant wait until I can get an iphone. Seeing all the new android phones gets me excited for the next iphone. Android is cool and all, but It amazes me that even the youtube app sucks compared to the iphone when google owns youtube.
i will not disagree samsung has stepd up a level but usually people who buy or talk about evo ore htc know some thing about highend smartphones. they are not the same as APLEASS BOYs
@canadia7x You wait for OFFICIAL updates? That's sad, go and get a Samdroid or Cyanmod update, it's better and it comes with new and better features, problem, it can't run HD, but i debut that matters.
@AztlanFrost Oh man, you betcha. I hate Apple mobile products with a passion after they pulled their dirty stunt this year and I made a pact with myself that even if I own an Epic, I'll still be on the Evo's side. Android>>>>>iOStevenothing.
Get k-9 email and your problems are solved? With all due respect, K-9 is buggy though promising. Sadly, except Gmail web-like app, Android has no decent email :( Made me switch back to the iThing :)
I wish I could like these phones, but they just get so BORING! The iPhone gives you a shit ton of awesome apps to play with, and android market sucks soooo bad. Not to mention you have to pay an extra $10 a month for 4G, even if its not in your area. And btw im not an iPhone fanboy, I have an android phone.
@canadia7x My OPINION is that I didn't like the phone and what I said was after 2 seconds I wasn't impressed...... and You really need to read more about samsungs problem with producing enough screens Period.......there is a reason they have to build another Plant.
Pffft............I waited months for my EVO and the day I got it the guy tried to sell me the EPIC I held it for two seconds and I was immediately unimpressed........Good luck trying to replace a SAMOLED screen if anything happens to your phone. Samsung won't have enough to cover replacements till they start a new production line in 2012......FRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRT EVO owns this boring phone.
I'm tierd of ppl sayin the epics screen is will good. Touch wiz does not have anything on HTC sense. Period. Samsung phones suck. The company doesn't even back there devices. And when they do its shitty updates. Epic just recently recived froyo,witch is pathetic.the evo will be receiving gingerbread with the launch of the evo 3D. Honestly,I'm impressed the crappy epic can even handle Android 2.2 even tho most phones that were updated turned into a brick.
@ProductFRED Read both of your comments and you definitely said it. I went back to the Evo and I feel like I can't possibly be happier. I just love it.
@stedman10 To fix the problem, push the button instead of tapping it. This can be annoying, but at least the buttons respond every time when you do this. There's a setting to have the button backlight turn off at the same time as the screen too.
@Panofobia Your comment is a tad bit harsh. AMOLED is not SAMOLED and there have been no problems producing Super Active Matrix Organic Light Emitting Diode screens as this is Samsung's patented technology and it's currently only used on the Galaxy S phones and will not be used by another company for a while.
Funny you mention that actually. One of my relatives has an Epic and they too complained about it after the 2.2 update! They said they liked it better when it was on Eclair.
@Panofobia It's called insurance. SAMOLED is a trademark of Samsung and they will never run out at this point because only their phones use it. I used an EVO this week (after bringing mine back to the store) and I just didn't care for it anymore. Everyone's entitled to their opinion. Although, you don't really have an excuse to use criticize the Epic if you only held it for 2 seconds. I modded mine to look like an EVO and it still has more options.
@writermind Nice! Hope you enjoy it!
@aarodynamik Actually, it is 3.0. To confirm this, I checked the system dump for the Epic and everything is there. Samsung just hasn't enabled it because of the landscape orientation. The epic's processor is far superior to the EVO's. Just because they're one ghz doesn't mean anything. I've owned both phones and ran benchmark tests on both to confirm this.
@Dredghill Well now, I've had no problems with a 4" screen, let alone a 3.5" iPhone screen. 4.3" may seem huge, but it doesn't make a difference when you're performing daily tasks. BTW, the keyboard is a nice addition, but not too necessary. Suit yourself, your opinion.
"Even Crysis."
I'm sold.
@jaymoneyman100 to be completely onset, they're both equal in a way. I really think its down to personal preference. I liked the Evo better, but the Epic does outperform the Evo with anything to do with graphics.
@dialgamaster12 Yeah, I know, but thanks for reminding me that it's called Tegra (I forgot about that)
@Zea645 Man, I remember opening up that EVO box of the first time. Sense UI with a sleek, huge, shiny phone. Man was I excited! Way better than my iPhone 3G S (which is finally out of my possession!)
@Davidwilson1212 Agreed. I don't understand why companies don't focus on skinning and improving the apps instead of giving us dual-core processors for a phone with 3 hour battery life. I mean, it's really awesome and that's why I got the EVO (since it was unique at the time), but from what I see, Apple focuses more on quality over quantity. I'm not saying that Android phones are cheaply made, but I do hear many "fragmented" complaints as opposed to the consistent complaints with the iPhone.
Oh, this isn't biased at all!
When it really comes down to it, it all depends on what you need on your phone. Keyboard and Media? If you have the extra $50, then go ahead. Want Sense, a bigger screen, and a more tablet-like phone? Don't have the extra $50? Go Evo. BTW the framerate cap was removed. Both phones are excellent - look at your needs. All the other things you want can be loaded on by rooting.
@Panofobia I didn't say that you don't. I simply said that 2 seconds in most cases is not enough to criticize something. But whatever, not trying to make enemies with people who like the EVO. All in all, I can say that both of them are great. I'm curious to see why you think the Epic is boring. My counterpoint was that it's possible to add some mods to make it function like the EVO.
@stedman10 I'm with you. The EVO was not for me either. My Epic does everything the EVO can do and more, so I'm set.
@Zea645 No problem with that! I made a parody here, so obviously, you could get around the basic problems. I have the Epic 4g now, and it works better for me.
@Yankeeboy254 Said the same thing too. Argh, they are both so good, I probably couldn't be too happy with either as I'd always be eyeing the other one. :)
@friesoracoke you betcha. Can't get any better than that...except for a LOT of support.
@AztlanFrost I've owned an Evo before and must say that it was an awesome phone. I put this video up because I thought it'd be interesting to see if anyone decided to put up a video against the Epic. :)
@nraudigy yeah, I guess we can say that NOVA is the mobile version of Crisis :)
@VanjaMk1 that's why I switched back to the Evo. K-9 mail is horrible on the Epic.
@exec228 It wasn't a mimicry and it was made for my fellow users down at AndroidCentral before the Epic had come out. These aren't meant to be proved as they were a joke. Lighten up a bit, will ya? :D
@AztlanFrost Nope, someone else made that one :) I don't have enough experience with the iPhone 4...yet. However, I believe the author of that video was thinking the same thing as he posted arguments for both sides. I'm hoping someone else will be willing to post an EVO side to the video.
@aarodynamik ran the top 3: linpack, quadrant, and neocore. You're right though, but I think the Hummingbird slightly edges out, but of course, why does it matter when you have root, memory management apps, and everything else good about Android? Both the phones are so good, that it's really impossible to go wrong. The only difference: keyboard or no keyboard: your call :)
Nice! I think the Iphone 4 was the best one you ever did, but this funny stuff. Going to trade in my Evo for an Epic TODAY!
@eddieperez100 That was a different guy. This video was made mostly for the people at the AndroidCentral forums. We are Epic 4g users, but I wanted them to have a laugh as we had to wait a REALLY long time for the phone to come out.
It's all a joke. The Evo's a great phone.
I haven't done much research on phones but I got a droid X on verizon. Samsung fascinate was the only other choice and I love the droid.
@Aaron24400 lol, I agree, although Nvidia is already talking about making mobile gpu's
@stedman10 I know! Mine came in yesterday too! It's beyond awesome. IMO it's way better than the EVO, even though the EVO is still a good phone. Thanks!
@Panofobia There ya go. Now I can completely agree with you. I'm not trying to be biased in my comments, but sorry if it looks like it (because it really does look like it). I keep thinking about my former EVO and want it back more and more, but I don't have that option, so the Epic will suit me for now.
@KonradFilms1 Lol, that's awesome!
@PingPong440 you make a good point.
@FantomLightning Yes! That's what I was thinking.
my dad has the epic my mom has the evo. using both. i DEFINITELY prefer the evo. it feels more customizable and i enjoy using the screen more
@AlongTheHorizonLine if you have a good connection at your house, then no. Its ridiculously fast!
both the evo and epic are amazing. until my dad got an epic and i saw it, i loved the evo more than any other phone. i really really want to get an epic but my second choice will always be the evo or the moment
@nrmc784 IMO the Evo is the best phone I have ever owned and will not get rid of it. I rooted and installed Fresh and am quite happy with that. I want to get CM6 on it, but I've been a little lazy lately lol :)
@hondafreak44 No kidding. I've had the Evo for a week so far (not counting june), and I still haven't gotten over it. The Evo is really great phone!
@sani1256 yeah, c'mon, check that back room! I switched back to the Evo. The Epic wasnt as amazing as advertised (obviously).
@navalwater123 They are both so good, I really doubt one could go wrong and make a serious mistake. It really comes down to preference. I have access to both so it is really nice.
@canadia7x Yea, trying to decide which one I want based on phone appearance now.. because the differneces between the two don't matter to me.
@MrGarrykf tell that to the millions of happy customers of their TVs and home appliances. The phone rocks by the way, but HTC is really awesome company too.
LOL dat was awesome too, Is the Epic really better than the Evo?
@Mzee1084 So do I. I'm on Sprint unfortunately, so I can't really try out the droid series, but from what I here, they are REALLY good phones, so when I move to Verizon after my contract's up, I'll definitely want to try out the next gen. of Droid :)
If the EVO had an AMOLED screen... I'd get it.
@zionistboy You can install Swype on the Evo, you can do DLNA using TwonkyServer (DLNA is Wifi-based), it has a bigger screen, dual LED flash, both cameras are better, and it FEELS like a premium device. Plus, HTC supports their phones long after their shelflife, unlike Samsung. And to top it off, all at $50 less than the Epic. I was going to buy the Epic but I'm so glad I made the right choice and got the Evo. So what if the Epic has a better GPU. It's a PHONE. The Evo is better at real stuff.
Nokia 6700 Classic, ftw! =D
@14akaz agreed. HTC fans (not fanboys, as I'm a fan myself) do know something compared to iSheep :)
@idi0televisi0n Well stated. I've lost hope in both phones. I don't like my Evo anymore, nor did the Epic satisfy my needs. The DInc is already considered end-of-life and it's only been a year. These phones update to fast for me! I agree though, I can't believe it took the Epic THIS long to update. Others might be okay with it though.
@kazper333 I won't be switching to Verizon until maybe a year to year and a half from now. The only reason I would is because I'm moving in the summertime and Sprint's service is not nearly as good as Verizon's there. However, I still won't switch until my contract ends.
@aarodynamik I couldn't agree more. iPhone
@Davidwilson1212 I'm starting to feel the same way actually. I follow the updates and they are all the same except for maybe processor and a couple of other things. It's always 5 or 8mp camera, 800x480 screen (except if you are lucky with the 856x480 screen), Snapdragon processor for many of the phones. It's like, "come on! I could care less about your darn 800x480 screen! Give me retina please! Give me a darn gyroscope!). I agree with the market. I loved it until they added the 15 min return.
@viper134 thanks
@konbaungking I know, seriously. I added that in the video to show this problem.
@canadia7x Nvidia already makes mobile GPU's, it's called the Tegra.
@acrh22 Hi, the video is a joke. I HAVE an EVO since it worked better for me than the Epic. I made this video since I used to be the moderator of the Samsung forums down at AndroidCentral. The Epic's launch was pretty late so to spice things up, I made the video and challenged the EVO moderators to make a video to counter this. That never happened though, so Epic owners can still enjoy. Laugh every now and then. Both phones are great, but the EVO's the one I chose.
@canadia7x I felt the lack of customization of my home screen a downer the thickness the bloatware was unbearable. I'm not saying it's not a good phone just not for me.
@canadia7x Yeah, but Touchwiz adds almost no functionality to Android whereas Sense adds and improves on a lot. So what if it has a better GPU? Both phones have bad batteries, so 3D games are out of the question. You don't need more than an Evo to play Angry Birds (for example). And like I said, the Evo adds features where they really count; a full-screen web-browser, a better dialer, better camera, etc. Overall, I just feel like HTC builds very solid devices and Samsung...abandons theirs.
@canadia7x haha i figured as much^^ Evo FTW, gotta love swype on my evo ^_^
@zionistboy That's what I started thinking about eventually. Every day, I wake up and look at my Evo knowing that I made the right choice.
@konbaungking Yup, Super Amoled rocks!
@canadia7x Yea, I cant wait until I can get an iphone. Seeing all the new android phones gets me excited for the next iphone. Android is cool and all, but It amazes me that even the youtube app sucks compared to the iphone when google owns youtube.
@6231997 Ummm....okay? I'm with you though.
@zionistboy You freaking said it! The Evo's awesome! I've loved mine since day one and I wouldn't get any other phone.
i think they are both are nice
i will not disagree samsung has stepd up a level but usually people who buy or talk about evo ore htc know some thing about highend smartphones. they are not the same as APLEASS BOYs
@canadia7x lol atleast ur saying the evo is crap!!! good work! :)
@canadia7x You wait for OFFICIAL updates?
That's sad, go and get a Samdroid or Cyanmod update, it's better and it comes with new and better features, problem, it can't run HD, but i debut that matters.
@TheIrieGamer I'm not the creator of iphone4 vs HTC Evo. I don't use swear words in my videos and I know it's a price that I have to pay.
@canadia7x yep same here i had both phones and the epic isnt as good (it just had a better screen)
that was freakin hilarious
I got the EVO 3D
@AztlanFrost If I was a Blackberry user, I would pick Android as well! :b
@cam9408 Sigh, you guys will never learn :) What phone do you have anyways?
@thefuckingdeviI haha, of course! ;)
@AztlanFrost Oh man, you betcha. I hate Apple mobile products with a passion after they pulled their dirty stunt this year and I made a pact with myself that even if I own an Epic, I'll still be on the Evo's side. Android>>>>>iOStevenothing.
Thumbs up for 50 months
@Crystallyzation Haha :)
i left my samsung oout in the rain and it still worked
even crysis XD
@Aaron24400 I'll answer that in about 20 years :D
@friesoracoke The videos a joke. I have an Evo actually, no Epic for me.
That was fucking funny. Hey everybody needs to type New guy at bad job it is something like this one.
@Crystallyzation
Umad?
Get k-9 email and your problems are solved? With all due respect, K-9 is buggy though promising. Sadly, except Gmail web-like app, Android has no decent email :( Made me switch back to the iThing :)
@canadia7x haha true that
@canadia7x I bet cam9408 owns a IFuckedUp 4 ;)
Haha i.love my EVO 3D
I wish I could like these phones, but they just get so BORING! The iPhone gives you a shit ton of awesome apps to play with, and android market sucks soooo bad. Not to mention you have to pay an extra $10 a month for 4G, even if its not in your area. And btw im not an iPhone fanboy, I have an android phone.
hahaahahah EPIC FTW
*honest
@ConceptVBS :) +1 for this comment.
@cam9408 I'm sorry, do I hear a Crapple fanboy? If you happen to be an Android user, then Android=one and there should be no debate.
@canadia7x My OPINION is that I didn't like the phone and what I said was after 2 seconds I wasn't impressed...... and You really need to read more about samsungs problem with producing enough screens Period.......there is a reason they have to build another Plant.
not funny. Epic
Pffft............I waited months for my EVO and the day I got it the guy tried to sell me the EPIC I held it for two seconds and I was immediately unimpressed........Good luck trying to replace a SAMOLED screen if anything happens to your phone. Samsung won't have enough to cover replacements till they start a new production line in 2012......FRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRT EVO owns this boring phone.
I'm tierd of ppl sayin the epics screen is will good. Touch wiz does not have anything on HTC sense. Period. Samsung phones suck. The company doesn't even back there devices. And when they do its shitty updates. Epic just recently recived froyo,witch is pathetic.the evo will be receiving gingerbread with the launch of the evo 3D. Honestly,I'm impressed the crappy epic can even handle Android 2.2 even tho most phones that were updated turned into a brick.
good one! Also search for "tit for tat animation", you will like it!
hahaha the epic can really handle crysis? XD