►Follow us on Instagram @autogefuehl and @thomas.letsgo ►Subscribe here: czcams.com/users/autogefuehl ►Compare the Land Rover Defender 110: czcams.com/video/ym9AHGjoMK4/video.html ►Compare the Mercedes G-Class: czcams.com/video/jr0mLKTQEqw/video.html ►Compare the Jeep Wrangler: czcams.com/video/1R3E7CqP68M/video.html ►Compare the Jeep Wrangler offroad: czcams.com/video/Ve90VdxcPhI/video.html 00:00 Land Rover Defender 90 (L663) 00:20 Rugged exterior styling and technology 01:34 Length and difference Defender 90 vs Defender 110 02:42 Offroad capability figures 02:57 Rear hatch and replacement tyre 03:28 Interior with fabric seats 04:56 Seating position 05:28 Jump seat =) 06:51 Dashboard and interior overview 07:55 Infotainment system 08:23 Steering wheel and instruments 08:53 Rear seats 10:04 Trunk / boot 11:49 Engine choices 12:29 Driving LR Defender 90 6-cyl 18:17 Motorway driving with acceleration #LandRover #LandRoverDefender Transparency note: Autogefühl videos are independent and free from editorial influence on opinion and rating. But since manufacturers enable us to do the reviews in the first place, for legal reasons this video is marked as _advertisement_.
Thomas, I learned to drive in a brand new 90 back in 1978 on parkland while I was still at school. Same colour combination as this, brings back good memories. Well done Land Rover, well done Thomas another excellent review Regards from England 👍
A fabulous review Thomas! Thank you. It’s also great to see that the new Defender has REAL PHYSICAL buttons and knobs for basic functions like airconditioning. It looks like a wonderful and unique car.
Great review Thomas. I drove original Land Rovers in the reserve army many years ago. Not the best road car but solid as a rock. Glad you are so impressed by the Defender 90. It looks fantastic on the road. No wonder they are already so popular. Time to start saving lol :-)
Great review as usual Tommy Boy 👍🏻 I agree this is the best version as it’s the most true to it’s origins Thankfully you can get the rear windows without those vanity panels and then it’s really airy and has much more light and visibility I wouldn’t bother with the front jump seat and would have the centre console My only other choice would be , to either have it with rear seats or if you don’t need them then get the commercial hard top option Then there’s plenty of space for your bales of hay or more likely your bicycles 🚴🏻 Keep up the good work 🇩🇪
@@autogefuehl I’ve no idea if you can remove them if they’re specked original, I don’t think so, but the 90 looks so much better without them , as you can see in this review I’ve added below from down under 🇦🇺👍🏻 czcams.com/video/KjbxQUmk48U/video.html
Had a 90S with 2.0 on order but cancelled. Ride with air suspension and 18” wheels was perfect. Length was perfect but front seat area spacious. Interior was dry quiet. Unfortunately my wife couldn’t climb up into it. Knee problems. Also, had guilty thoughts over the 19 mpg US considering our Camry hybrid. Ordered it first then she rode in it.
Зря отказался, моей жене тоже было неудобно в него садиться. Поставил подножки, и теперь это наш любимый автомобиль в семье, приходиться спорить с женой кто сегодня поедет на дефендере 90.
Looks great, but the cost is scandalous. I just spec'd a 90 on their site with a few extras and it was over €120K. Let me sell my house so I can by a 90.
Thomas, are you familiar with the new Ineos Grenadier? Think of a G-class (without der schnickschnack) powered by a BMW B58. All the engineering was done by Magna Steyr in Austria, the company that manufactures the G for Mercedes. They have selected every component from the worlds top suppliers, and they are aiming for unbeatable quality and reliability. For example, the frame is galvanized for longevity, which is unheard-of. I think it's one of the most interesting new vehicles in years.
I totally agree with the wheels. 22s look so out of place in a Defender. My Defender PHEV has 20" wheels because the brakes are so big. I'd have taken 18" if they were possible to fit.
Because of lower stresses on the components. But of course materials and design choices can still flip that around, so that big components of weak material or of bad design can still be less reliable than of smaller engine with better design and more reliable materials.
This is pretty much the exact spec I would get, but in the 110. The sad thing though, is that in South Africa, we don’t get the D200 and D250 6 cylinder diesel. We get the D240 (177kw 4 cylinder diesel) and the D300 6 cylinder diesel. There’s a P400 petrol model too, as well as the new V8. I don’t know why the lower horsepower 6 cylinder isn’t available here though, maybe it’s because our diesel isn’t Euro 6 compliant? This would be the perfect daily driver…
@@autogefuehl Perhaps Thomas, more investigation is needed? 😀 Please will you try to review Ineos Grenadier at some point and then compare these two beasts with off road/on road test and functionality? One car is the evolution of the Defender and the other is possibly, what the evolution should have been?👊
A G class would beat a Defender in any terrain except in discretion. From that perspective, seems like G class has betrayed its origin and now it's only a show off car with G63 most sold model.
It's a good looking vehicle with a comfortable interior, a nice place to sit and wait to be collected when it breaks down and is towed to the dealer which it inevitably will due to being a JLR product, sad but true.
It used to come standard on all models, but now it's only standard on the higher-end models like the X and the V8. If you order an S/SE/HSE or X-Dynamic, and want the digital rear view mirror, you have to pay extra.
It would be helpful to your viewers to mention the horrendous reliability of JLR products, and the new Defender is no different. It's not hard to find videos of owners complaining that their new Defenders are spending more time in the shop than their own garage.
It looks good in this spec but I have several issues with the new Defender. Firstly the price. I specced what I thought was a basic version and it was rapidly heading towards £60,000. Next is the reliability. JLR are constantly at the bottom of reliability surveys. Which leads me to another point, this is not a car for out and out off-road ing. It constantly needs OTA updates and fixes. Even rural Britain has major black spots in mobile signal. This is not a replacement for the old Defender. Can you imaging getting stuck in this in the desert, prairie, outback? Sorry it won’t move because the OTA repair failed. Perhaps because of these reasons, I’ve only seen 2 of the new Defender, driven by women who would typically drive an Evoque. This is not a car for a farmer or land surveyor. It is a Chelsea Tractor dressed up to look rough and tough. Oh and don’t start me on those stupid window paniers.
@@beaviccoon470 I haven’t seen any commercial variants on the raid near me. Perhaps the farmers near me are t as wealthy as the ones near you. They only seem to drive L200s, D Max and Rangers.
Interesting car, if you like that sort of vehicle. But two huge problems - (1) ridiculously overpriced, and even worse (2) all owner satisfaction surveys show range-rover/land-rover as by far the most unreliable cars on the road.
A proved to fail Range Rover with macho looks that's all. Tons of electronics and software for dealerships to simulate issues and drag you into their workshops to milk your wallet. No thanks, I'll stick to the old maintain it yourself version as long as ICE is permitted on the roads.
You probably mean by "design" the looks, as reliability and quality issues themselves are very much design issues, signs of bad design. Only small part of reliability issues nowadays is because of the manufacturing being poor quality.
Oh dear, Thomas must be earning a handsome paycheck to appear so excited about this super Dacia Defender....so sad that Tata has waved goodbye to an icon, ta ta.
not worth money 25,000 only!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! 99% of vehicles are three times more than worth!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Land rover is five time too much!!!!!!!!!!!! when i hit it rich ill show you and buy it cheap after covid!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! thou!!!!!!!!.
Thank you very much for your interest in this topic. As a start, please tune in to what the animal leather industry tried to do here with our channel: czcams.com/video/nP_CvLlaFlI/video.html In general, depending on the animal skin grade, the animals are specifically raised for this matter. However even if meat would be the reason no.1 in other cases, the hide remains one of the most profitable body parts. That means: If manufacturers put animal leather in a car and you accept it as a customer, you give your money to an industry that earns money by oppressing humans, animals and destroys the environment, you make them more profitable. Also, if you turn the argument around "meat is the waste of the leather industry" you realize how biased the argument is. After all, would you care for which body part you would murdered? Or imagine someone robs you on the street and beats you to death - would it matter to you if it was for your Smartphone or for your purse? The animal agriculture industry occupies 2/3 of all farm land on this planet which cannot be used for direct human nutrition then. That is extremely inefficient. The no.1 cause for deforestation is the animal industry. It is also one of the biggest contributor to climate change. The amount of land, resources, energy and water being used is beyond imagination. If you are interested in how the animals are being treated and transported in the global leather industry, watch this footage: czcams.com/video/tkjCAmq1_8E/video.html Note that the footage is genuine and was recorded by a highly decorated investigative journalist in Germany I know myself personally. For the alternative, you can either use artificial fabrics which can be made from recyclables (we have already shown a lot of vehicles that use great fabric seats from PET-bottles etc.) or more and more also from plant-based materials (like Pinatex). And even if you would create a seat completely with petroleum without a recycling share, the amount of oil being used for that is nothing in comparing just to once fueling up your car. In practical reasons, fabric or microfibre seats are just more useful. You do not sweat in summer and it is not cold in winter. And there are also new leatherette materials available which are superior in every aspect: czcams.com/video/u94YXJ72UTA/video.html Not using animal skin on seats is a major issue of animal rights, human rights - and after all just of common sense what is better both for the environment and just more practical and more luxurious for the customer. We cannot change what we have bought in the past (that also counts for ourselves of course!), but with more information and compassion we can change how we decide in the future.
@@autogefuehl maybe so Thomas but I like leather shoes and leather seats. Remember everyone is different and entitled to their views. The same people who go on about animal rights are getting everyone to go vegan and now eat bugs as a nee protein source . I’m not one of them
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00:00 Land Rover Defender 90 (L663)
00:20 Rugged exterior styling and technology
01:34 Length and difference Defender 90 vs Defender 110
02:42 Offroad capability figures
02:57 Rear hatch and replacement tyre
03:28 Interior with fabric seats
04:56 Seating position
05:28 Jump seat =)
06:51 Dashboard and interior overview
07:55 Infotainment system
08:23 Steering wheel and instruments
08:53 Rear seats
10:04 Trunk / boot
11:49 Engine choices
12:29 Driving LR Defender 90 6-cyl
18:17 Motorway driving with acceleration
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5:47 Thomas in the jump seat. 😂
8:54 Thomas in the backseats. 😂
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Thomas, I learned to drive in a brand new 90 back in 1978 on parkland while I was still at school. Same colour combination as this, brings back good memories. Well done Land Rover, well done Thomas another excellent review
Regards from England 👍
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Always enjoy a review by Thomas,no ego nonsense, the vehicle is always the star.
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Best ever
A fabulous review Thomas! Thank you. It’s also great to see that the new Defender has REAL PHYSICAL buttons and knobs for basic functions like airconditioning. It looks like a wonderful and unique car.
I like steel wheels
What's popping about them really?
What's popping about them really?
Brilliant. You enjoyed that Thomas didn't you? Impossible to dislike a Defender.
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Thank you Thomas, you have reaffirmed what I already know as great vehicle and will be replacing my old Defender with this new one in the spring.
I want to buy this legendary car from Land Rover, but I want it electric
Thomas coming in from the right really threw me!
I love the spec you have here, you're review is imo the best on the net.
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Those door mirrors look like a mini 📺 screen. 😂
Massive!
Great review Thomas. I drove original Land Rovers in the reserve army many years ago. Not the best road car but solid as a rock. Glad you are so impressed by the Defender 90. It looks fantastic on the road. No wonder they are already so popular. Time to start saving lol :-)
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Great review as usual Tommy Boy 👍🏻
I agree this is the best version as it’s the most true to it’s origins
Thankfully you can get the rear windows without those vanity panels and then it’s really airy and has much more light and visibility
I wouldn’t bother with the front jump seat and would have the centre console
My only other choice would be , to either have it with rear seats or if you don’t need them then get the commercial hard top option
Then there’s plenty of space for your bales of hay or more likely your bicycles 🚴🏻
Keep up the good work 🇩🇪
Agree!
Do u know if u can de-install the vanity panels btw? Love that expression for that 😂
@@autogefuehl I’ve no idea if you can remove them if they’re specked original, I don’t think so, but the 90 looks so much better without them , as you can see in this review I’ve added below from down under 🇦🇺👍🏻
czcams.com/video/KjbxQUmk48U/video.html
@@autogefuehl any chance of you popping over to Austria to try the new Ineos Grenadier 🧐
Great review Thomas you looked great in the Defender and in blue too! Greetings from England 🏴.
Wish this car was offered in Thomas blue colour just to make this video review even better 🥳 🚙🚙🚙
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Thank you for risking your life to test these cars for us!
Please do review the Defender 90 with the 5.0 V8 when you get the chance!
"Thomas in the Jump Seat!" Get a good cartoonist and you could have a best selling children's book! :P :)
haha
Had a 90S with 2.0 on order but cancelled. Ride with air suspension and 18” wheels was perfect. Length was perfect but front seat area spacious. Interior was dry quiet. Unfortunately my wife couldn’t climb up into it. Knee problems. Also, had guilty thoughts over the 19 mpg US considering our Camry hybrid.
Ordered it first then she rode in it.
Зря отказался, моей жене тоже было неудобно в него садиться. Поставил подножки, и теперь это наш любимый автомобиль в семье, приходиться спорить с женой кто сегодня поедет на дефендере 90.
Best color best trim level
Yep 👍
Saw this colour combination on the road recently. IMHO, it’s the best looking version of the new Defender.
The Defender is the car the Discovery 5 should have been.
The best Landrover you can buy is a Freelander 3.2 i6, had one for sixteen years and not a minutes trouble, fantastic vehicle.
Great review. I also think this is the two door Off road capable SUV. Even here in the states, I would get a Defender 90 over a Bronco.
like always great review! thank you!
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Defender vs discovery vs jeep wrangler vs Toyota prado?
Looks great, but the cost is scandalous. I just spec'd a 90 on their site with a few extras and it was over €120K. Let me sell my house so I can by a 90.
TRDL‼️ Thomas’ Retro Driving Lounge 🤙🏼🤙🏼🏔️✨
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Thomas, are you familiar with the new Ineos Grenadier? Think of a G-class (without der schnickschnack) powered by a BMW B58. All the engineering was done by Magna Steyr in Austria, the company that manufactures the G for Mercedes. They have selected every component from the worlds top suppliers, and they are aiming for unbeatable quality and reliability. For example, the frame is galvanized for longevity, which is unheard-of. I think it's one of the most interesting new vehicles in years.
Yeah heard of it, very interesting!
Thomas, please can you review the new 2022 polo GTI
We will!
James’s review is always good :)
Thomas it is =)
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Brilliant review as always 👍
I totally agree with the wheels. 22s look so out of place in a Defender. My Defender PHEV has 20" wheels because the brakes are so big. I'd have taken 18" if they were possible to fit.
Get the feeling Thomas likes these....
Great defender Thomas
Finally a base model!
Why lower bhp and higher displacement is better for engine durability?
Then a45s engine should be highly stress
Yes. 2 litre engines with 400 hp are bogus
Because of lower stresses on the components. But of course materials and design choices can still flip that around, so that big components of weak material or of bad design can still be less reliable than of smaller engine with better design and more reliable materials.
You guys are so lucky, here in Indonesia a Defender 90 costs over €150 thousand and thats not even the X
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This is pretty much the exact spec I would get, but in the 110. The sad thing though, is that in South Africa, we don’t get the D200 and D250 6 cylinder diesel. We get the D240 (177kw 4 cylinder diesel) and the D300 6 cylinder diesel. There’s a P400 petrol model too, as well as the new V8. I don’t know why the lower horsepower 6 cylinder isn’t available here though, maybe it’s because our diesel isn’t Euro 6 compliant? This would be the perfect daily driver…
Strange indeed
@@autogefuehl the other option is the Ranger Raptor. There are plenty brand new ones available, although the new one is coming soon
Lovely piece of kit. I wouldn’t buy one because I’m not into these off roaders but I understand the appeal.
Hopefully you'll review the new INEOS Grenadier soon
I wonder if that stupid square plastic in the rear side windows is removable?
U can order it without, but indeed i wonder if u can get rid of it even if u have them in the first place
@@autogefuehl Perhaps Thomas, more investigation is needed? 😀
Please will you try to review Ineos Grenadier at some point and then compare these two beasts with off road/on road test and functionality? One car is the evolution of the Defender and the other is possibly, what the evolution should have been?👊
I ll see what i can do
Spot on review. How would you compare the ride quality of this vehicle to the 2021 X3 M 40 i with 20’s?
you asked that a year ago, but anyway. i owend both cars and the 90 on air suspension is much better ride quality.
Fabric seats. Hard to wipe clean.
Gorgeous but will spend most of its time in the service bay.
Perfect for my rubber plantation.
i disagree with him on the volume control. it is a solid roller switch.
Holy cow, that's a narrow road!
A G class would beat a Defender in any terrain except in discretion.
From that perspective, seems like G class has betrayed its origin and now it's only a show off car with G63 most sold model.
Amazing it didn't broke down...
Thanks Thomas
Again, two unskippable 20 second ads before you can watch the video!!!
Ads are ruining You Tube and in turn, this channel.
Aww, a man after my own heart 🐈. It hasn’t gone unnoticed your cat on your phone! What is his or her name?
It's a good looking vehicle with a comfortable interior, a nice place to sit and wait to be collected when it breaks down and is towed to the dealer which it inevitably will due to being a JLR product, sad but true.
Yeah just can hope they are working on that
I think he likes it.
The way you grab the steering wheel is incorrect. Do not use your thumb to hold the wheel. Otherwise you break your thumb bone at the off-road.
1:34 toy car from the 90's lol
No, in order to be the best, first it has to RELIABLE .
Don’t you have the rear view mirror camera ..I thought came slandered
It used to come standard on all models, but now it's only standard on the higher-end models like the X and the V8. If you order an S/SE/HSE or X-Dynamic, and want the digital rear view mirror, you have to pay extra.
@@zoid9969 thanks
It would be helpful to your viewers to mention the horrendous reliability of JLR products, and the new Defender is no different. It's not hard to find videos of owners complaining that their new Defenders are spending more time in the shop than their own garage.
Yes JLR has had a lot of problems recently indeed. Cant say anything about the specific engines though. The 2.0 seem to be most problematic imho
What is the point of that stupid piece of square trim, ruins the view and light for any back seat passengers?
can you explain what cant go right about low displacement and high horse power engines fitted on heavy cars.danker
Good bro
no view outside whatsoever for the rear passenger : a "unique experience" indeed 🙄
It looks good in this spec but I have several issues with the new Defender. Firstly the price. I specced what I thought was a basic version and it was rapidly heading towards £60,000. Next is the reliability. JLR are constantly at the bottom of reliability surveys. Which leads me to another point, this is not a car for out and out off-road ing. It constantly needs OTA updates and fixes. Even rural Britain has major black spots in mobile signal. This is not a replacement for the old Defender. Can you imaging getting stuck in this in the desert, prairie, outback? Sorry it won’t move because the OTA repair failed. Perhaps because of these reasons, I’ve only seen 2 of the new Defender, driven by women who would typically drive an Evoque. This is not a car for a farmer or land surveyor. It is a Chelsea Tractor dressed up to look rough and tough. Oh and don’t start me on those stupid window paniers.
I disagree, this is a very pretentious car.
Seen a few farmers with these already. But the hard top versions not these ones.
@@beaviccoon470 I haven’t seen any commercial variants on the raid near me. Perhaps the farmers near me are t as wealthy as the ones near you. They only seem to drive L200s, D Max and Rangers.
No ladder frame and still snapping crankshaft? Yay for Landrover! (Sadly, I’ve had D4).
I can't fo that
Interesting car, if you like that sort of vehicle. But two huge problems - (1) ridiculously overpriced, and even worse (2) all owner satisfaction surveys show range-rover/land-rover as by far the most unreliable cars on the road.
Way high price
Def 90 V8 yeah
It’s definitely the best especially if it comes with its own flatbed or tow truck!
The discovery is way better, more luxurius ride,roomier, better on road, better noise isolation and almost equal off road capability
But it means you have to look at the Defender. At least when you’re driving it, you can’t see the back of it :)
A proved to fail Range Rover with macho looks that's all. Tons of electronics and software for dealerships to simulate issues and drag you into their workshops to milk your wallet. No thanks, I'll stick to the old maintain it yourself version as long as ICE is permitted on the roads.
Great design, hampered by shocking reliability/quality issues.
You probably mean by "design" the looks, as reliability and quality issues themselves are very much design issues, signs of bad design. Only small part of reliability issues nowadays is because of the manufacturing being poor quality.
It looks like a toy car...unreal
Sorry but the wheels are awful 😂
Still Land Roverish eh? So that means it will break down
Oh dear, Thomas must be earning a handsome paycheck to appear so excited about this super Dacia Defender....so sad that Tata has waved goodbye to an icon, ta ta.
No paycheck at all. I just love it. Reliability issues are a thing with JLR though indeed
It’s probably why the used prices of old shape Defender are going through the roof.
not worth money 25,000 only!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! 99% of vehicles are three times more than worth!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Land rover is five time too much!!!!!!!!!!!! when i hit it rich ill show you and buy it cheap after covid!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! thou!!!!!!!!.
These new defenders are actually rising in value which is interesting.
Some of us like animal leather seats. Please stop banging on about it in every video !!!
Thank you very much for your interest in this topic. As a start, please tune in to what the animal leather industry tried to do here with our channel: czcams.com/video/nP_CvLlaFlI/video.html
In general, depending on the animal skin grade, the animals are specifically raised for this matter. However even if meat would be the reason no.1 in other cases, the hide remains one of the most profitable body parts. That means: If manufacturers put animal leather in a car and you accept it as a customer, you give your money to an industry that earns money by oppressing humans, animals and destroys the environment, you make them more profitable. Also, if you turn the argument around "meat is the waste of the leather industry" you realize how biased the argument is. After all, would you care for which body part you would murdered? Or imagine someone robs you on the street and beats you to death - would it matter to you if it was for your Smartphone or for your purse?
The animal agriculture industry occupies 2/3 of all farm land on this planet which cannot be used for direct human nutrition then. That is extremely inefficient. The no.1 cause for deforestation is the animal industry. It is also one of the biggest contributor to climate change. The amount of land, resources, energy and water being used is beyond imagination. If you are interested in how the animals are being treated and transported in the global leather industry, watch this footage: czcams.com/video/tkjCAmq1_8E/video.html
Note that the footage is genuine and was recorded by a highly decorated investigative journalist in Germany I know myself personally.
For the alternative, you can either use artificial fabrics which can be made from recyclables (we have already shown a lot of vehicles that use great fabric seats from PET-bottles etc.) or more and more also from plant-based materials (like Pinatex). And even if you would create a seat completely with petroleum without a recycling share, the amount of oil being used for that is nothing in comparing just to once fueling up your car.
In practical reasons, fabric or microfibre seats are just more useful. You do not sweat in summer and it is not cold in winter. And there are also new leatherette materials available which are superior in every aspect: czcams.com/video/u94YXJ72UTA/video.html
Not using animal skin on seats is a major issue of animal rights, human rights - and after all just of common sense what is better both for the environment and just more practical and more luxurious for the customer. We cannot change what we have bought in the past (that also counts for ourselves of course!), but with more information and compassion we can change how we decide in the future.
@@autogefuehl maybe so Thomas but I like leather shoes and leather seats. Remember everyone is different and entitled to their views. The same people who go on about animal rights are getting everyone to go vegan and now eat bugs as a nee protein source . I’m not one of them
Look at my clothes, many things look like leather but they are not. There are enough alternatives out there, you do not have to miss a thing!
IF YOU READ THE LAND ROVER FORUMS YOU WILL SEE JUST HOW MANY ENGINEERING QUALITY ISSUES THERE ARE WITH THE NEW DEFENDERS - MAYBE A LEASE WHILE IT IS COVERED BY FACTORY WARRANTY BUT EVEN THEN WITH THE SHORTAGE OF PARTS BECAUSE OF SUPPLY-CHAIN ISSUES YOU MIGHT BE MAKING YOUR PAYMENTS WHILE THE CAR SITS AT THE DEALERSHIP MONTHS WAITING FOR PARTS - AS A LONG TIME LR OWNER I WOULD NOT RECOMMEND ONE
Is your keyboard broken?
@@zoid9969 i dont use a keyboard - this isn't 2000 i use voice AI active software
@@secpac58chichi Guess your AI is broken then