@@vinylholicsanonymous3871 join us next week when we try to have a word with the bikes on the boat bit,theres more than one !does it everyday!stay tuned folks
Stuff like this is kinda shocking to me. If police and our public officials can’t solve this issue, doesn’t give me much confidence in their ability combat any sort of crime
Basically dealing with alot of people who would be completely homeless if not for the boat!Government solution?$50000 fine and confiscation of the boat!Our governmental authoritys are completely useless!
@@Awol991 The Coast Guard (FEDERAL) number on the boats is FREE registration. And yes, you can find the people. WE had one guy we rowed out to pump out his boat: he was in hospital in Winnipeg. However, what boat owners CAN AND SHOULD do is post a notice of contact on the boat in an area people can fine it, or "co-op" for a watch out with other boats in the vicinity.
@@Awol991 Should be but in South Florida there are people who live on these run down boats who live in poverty. If they know the government leaves them alone and they have little money then why register it. Different set of rules when you have little to lose.
If the boat is unregistered it should be confiscated, the owners can contact VPD to get their boat back from boat-impound. If they don't contact VPD within 2 months, it gets scrapped.
not all boats need to be registered, anything with a 10 hp or 7.5 kw engine and above needs to be registered. if those boats only have 9.9 hp outboards and not insured or registered they're fine but they have overstayed they're welcome in False Creek (there's a time limit). i think they can move out in front of English Bay and couldn't be bothered by the authorities but its totally exposed to the rough weather out there. they need to create more live aboard marinas in Vancouver/lower mainland area instead of pushing hard to ban the ones that are left
I lived in FC over 20 years ago and it was a talked about issue then. I've never understood how they can't just remove the boat after an ignored written warning and sell it at auction.
Moving a boat around that has no power is not cheap. It can cost thousands of dollars that the city would rather use to provide free needles and condoms. It's all just a matter of priorities don't you know.
If the owners are homeless, or the boat sold and not registered in the new owner's name it could be difficult to deal with. The city just needs to clean up these unseaworthy vessels,
@@stellaluuk2713 Great. Where do they mail the bill for this? We'll need your address and phone number and credit card please. People think the government has endless money for any purpose. It doesn't have any money unless it collects it from the citizens first.
We common folk have similar complaints about the rich mind you but hey what can we do? Should we do throw them out of their homes and leave them to be thrown to the wolves? We actually have standards. We're pmc capitalists hahahahagha Revolutionary guard makes them useless and incompatible with the economic body politics that rises like a Phoenix of old.... Viva la Revo|ution
It's like every other policing story in this city. Just too difficult to do anything about it. Same as street drug dealing, crime, homeless taking over parks, RV's illegally parked and uninsured, repeat offenders released after only hours in custody. But, you can watch these crime fighters handing out illegal left turn tickets downtown on Sunday mornings. You guy's are such heros.
Most of it is homeless living on their boat couse they lost their home . Give them viable places to park their boats and problem solved . Just like homeless on the streets give them viable places to camp and solcial workers to help homeless with their issues .
Not registered and abandoned. Sounds like it should be a simple ticket/court order situation to take the boats after giving notice on the boats then either selling the boats via auction or destroying them
What good is it when the person can not pay the fine. It is obvious these boats shown are derelict and it is obvious the own don't have the fund to maintain it.
Boats are one of those things that needs a lot of maintenance even when new. Servicing and maintenance are a very real need. A marine environment is hard on boats that set in the water, even in a marina. The best thing that could happen is running a boat every day, like an automobile. Most owners boat less than 50 hours a year, even less for the ones that just putt out into the sound and have a meal and a few beers. Add up the decay and potential freezing damage and repairs add up quickly. A boat can be new and a derelict. Boat repairs can be crippling to your bank account and your mental state due to the owners not knowing how to correctly maintain even a small craft. If the boat is moored, it adds unique issues such as corrosion and electrolysis. If you are ever offered a free boat you will usually spend well beyond the boat value on your first trip to the marine mechanic. With some shops approaching $100 per hour, it’s no wonder these boats are floating derelicts. Marinas and boat yards are full of boats that will never take another trip due to expensive damage and the passage of time. Perhaps the question has yet to be asked; what to do when you regret (have buyers remorse)and a poor understanding of boat systems? Individuals can no longer afford repairs. There isn’t really a boat junk yard that tows and crushes your boat for scrap recycling of pleasure boats. A real milestone around your neck. I would liken it to an expensive European car where maintenance costs top $3000 a year. It’s a high earners game or a fully trained marine mechanic with access to cheap parts. Your opinion may vary.
As a boat owner I hate the idea of another cost, a cost that would be carried by all responsible boat owners. However the US solution is to have boats licensed, the same way cars are licensed. No license means the state can impound the abandoned vehicle. More importantly it identifies the owner, and provides a pool of funds that are then used to deal with end of life boats. Owners of old boats would be less likely to simply walk away if they knew they would be on the hook for salvage. At some point boats need to be responsibly hauled out, partially recycled, and sent to the landfill.
Government has created this situation where the cost of living is absurd and then wants to deal the heavy hand to those who have to live on a boat in the harbor. All the power to these people living there I say.
False Creek (and other venues) are FEDERAL foreshore and thus protected by FEDERAL MARINE LAW, not city, not G.V.R.D., and you can't just call the cops and waltz in and confiscate shipping. Unless you're a 300 million Euro. Russian oligarch yacht, in which case, go for it.
No one has the balls to deal with it. I personally know of one individual working in Victoria who has a boat anchored in Ganges harbor. Pumps his head directly into the harbor and doesn't care about the rules. If they sink, they risk fuel leaks also an obstruction to other boaters. Drag the boats to the dump and burn them. with or without the owners on board. Start a go fund me page. but get off your collective butts and do something.
Clearly, there is not enough deterrent presently built into the legal system to inhibit boat owners from engaging in this kind of "squatting". Unless the owners of these boats face criminal charges with mandatory prison sentences, and/or these boats are forcibly seized/confiscated, towed away, and sold for scrap, this kind of nonsense will only continue with impunity. This is not a whole lot different from how cars are treated. If you leave your car parked long enough in someone else's parking lot and/on the shoulder at the side of the highway, it gets towed and impounded, sooner or later. Next.
@@clark9064 more feces, urine, fuel, oil, detergents and chemicals go into false creek through the storm drains than from those boats. im not defending the boats im just saying more pollution comes from the city streets, its not even close. Google what happens with all the sewage the city produces
If boat owners are abandoning their boats, and nothing bad happened in the area that would misplace any of the boats then boats that are removed could be given to people who would want a boat. Normally people would moor a boat at a marina, or on their own property on water. "Mooring Your Boat" "Mooring refers to lassoing, tethering, tying, or otherwise securing your boat to a fixed object, such as a mooring buoy, rather than dropping an anchor to secure your vessel anywhere you fancy. You can moor your boat to a mooring buoy, dock, quay, wharf, jetty, or pier." In my opinion, it doesn't look like the boats are moored. The boats could either be abandoned, or misplaced.
It's all lies and deciet. I live on this water. Allmost all of us clean up and are reasonable. Government doesn't want free thinkers who do not support the housing crises and.pay rent on a home /suite. It's all agenda. Wake up and think for yourself. Government is good at seperate us so I don't GAF what anyone says about us living in our Boats. Vancouver is most expensive rent in North America if not world. Spinless 🐑 braiwashed by government agenda and deceit through media
@@eddiespagetti8395 What is shown on the video is not a place where anyone should be living. What is shown on the video is a public area where boaters can travel on water. There are marinas in Canada that allow liveaboards. In other words there are marinas that allow people to live there all year on a boat. Another option could be to buy a waterfront property. Someone who buys a waterfront property can also stay on a boat on water all year as well.
Just dry dock them if they don't have a licence on them... If people want them back... They have to pay to get them out of dry dock... Why are we treating them any different than a car... Impound...
How is this difficult for the Police, with all their resources ??? How do we expect them to solve crimes, if they can't even handle simple stuff like this ? They should be ASHAMED !
These law officials are full of it when it comes to removing these boats They just don't want the expense coming out of there budget beacause they have no recourse Also I really don't care as it doesn't affect me and I'm a troll😃
The owners are broke with mental or addiction issues. Fines will not ever fix the derelict boat problem. That should be obvious. Some of them have dozens of stolen bikes on them as well. It's pathetic we can't get rid of these things.
Since authorities are incapable there, I think Mexico and the United States should tow their derelicts there to dispose of them. After all, how many Canadian planes do I see abandoned on derelict/defunct US airports?
Road vehicles are registered and have multiple vin # to trace back to the last registered owner. That person will bare the full liability foe all costs incurred in removal. Many boats before the 90's have no title or registration to trace.
Vancouver spends $10 million a day so the homeless can party and theive all night without jobs. The city should sue the nearby Indian bands for causing most of the cities problems. Just as they do to our cities.
I especially like the part where he explains how boats can sink.
Same. I had no idea.
And next week on serve and protect...lol
Yes put police in front of cameras so we all know they are in over their heads. Training can't help this guy
The hole and the water ahhhh
@@vinylholicsanonymous3871 join us next week when we try to have a word with the bikes on the boat bit,theres more than one !does it everyday!stay tuned folks
Stuff like this is kinda shocking to me. If police and our public officials can’t solve this issue, doesn’t give me much confidence in their ability combat any sort of crime
They are blocked by really lefty laws that always make it difficult to get rid of the boats, or squatters, or homeless, etc.
Basically dealing with alot of people who would be completely homeless if not for the boat!Government solution?$50000 fine and confiscation of the boat!Our governmental authoritys are completely useless!
Should not every boat be registered? Can't they track people through the registration ?
@@Awol991 The Coast Guard (FEDERAL) number on the boats is FREE registration. And yes, you can find the people. WE had one guy we rowed out to pump out his boat: he was in hospital in Winnipeg. However, what boat owners CAN AND SHOULD do is post a notice of contact on the boat in an area people can fine it, or "co-op" for a watch out with other boats in the vicinity.
@@Awol991 Should be but in South Florida there are people who live on these run down boats who live in poverty. If they know the government leaves them alone and they have little money then why register it. Different set of rules when you have little to lose.
If the boat is unregistered it should be confiscated, the owners can contact VPD to get their boat back from boat-impound. If they don't contact VPD within 2 months, it gets scrapped.
not all boats need to be registered, anything with a 10 hp or 7.5 kw engine and above needs to be registered. if those boats only have 9.9 hp outboards and not insured or registered they're fine but they have overstayed they're welcome in False Creek (there's a time limit). i think they can move out in front of English Bay and couldn't be bothered by the authorities but its totally exposed to the rough weather out there. they need to create more live aboard marinas in Vancouver/lower mainland area instead of pushing hard to ban the ones that are left
I lived in FC over 20 years ago and it was a talked about issue then.
I've never understood how they can't just remove the boat after an ignored written warning and sell it at auction.
remove them to where?
Moving a boat around that has no power is not cheap. It can cost thousands of dollars that the city would rather use to provide free needles and condoms. It's all just a matter of priorities don't you know.
If the owners are homeless, or the boat sold and not registered in the new owner's name it could be difficult to deal with. The city just needs to clean up these unseaworthy vessels,
@@stellaluuk2713 Great. Where do they mail the bill for this? We'll need your address and phone number and credit card please. People think the government has endless money for any purpose. It doesn't have any money unless it collects it from the citizens first.
We common folk have similar complaints about the rich mind you but hey what can we do? Should we do throw them out of their homes and leave them to be thrown to the wolves? We actually have standards. We're pmc capitalists hahahahagha Revolutionary guard makes them useless and incompatible with the economic body politics that rises like a Phoenix of old.... Viva la Revo|ution
It really bugs the rich when poor people own stuff
It's like every other policing story in this city. Just too difficult to do anything about it. Same as street drug dealing, crime, homeless taking over parks, RV's illegally parked and uninsured, repeat offenders released after only hours in custody. But, you can watch these crime fighters handing out illegal left turn tickets downtown on Sunday mornings. You guy's are such heros.
You said it. 💯
Yes police should just give stick to helping the wealthy that they can understand
Most of it is homeless living on their boat couse they lost their home . Give them viable places to park their boats and problem solved . Just like homeless on the streets give them viable places to camp and solcial workers to help homeless with their issues .
Not registered and abandoned.
Sounds like it should be a simple ticket/court order situation to take the boats after giving notice on the boats then either selling the boats via auction or destroying them
I saw these boats outside science world a few months back. These boats must have the best view of the city imo.
Best view of a city going downhill
Canadian's are so angry, you guys are supposed to be super chill. That's your thing, "super duper chill". Don't let the world down!
What good is it when the person can not pay the fine.
It is obvious these boats shown are derelict and it is obvious the own don't have the fund to maintain it.
Is this the news from 2002?
Boats are one of those things that needs a lot of maintenance even when new. Servicing and maintenance are a very real need.
A marine environment is hard on boats that set in the water, even in a marina. The best thing that could happen is running a boat every day, like an automobile. Most owners boat less than 50 hours a year, even less for the ones that just putt out into the sound and have a meal and a few beers. Add up the decay and potential freezing damage and repairs add up quickly.
A boat can be new and a derelict. Boat repairs can be crippling to your bank account and your mental state due to the owners not knowing how to correctly maintain even a small craft.
If the boat is moored, it adds unique issues such as corrosion and electrolysis. If you are ever offered a free boat you will usually spend well beyond the boat value on your first trip to the marine mechanic. With some shops approaching $100 per hour, it’s no wonder these boats are floating derelicts. Marinas and boat yards are full of boats that will never take another trip due to expensive damage and the passage of time. Perhaps the question has yet to be asked; what to do when you regret (have buyers remorse)and a poor understanding of boat systems? Individuals can no longer afford repairs. There isn’t really a boat junk yard that tows and crushes your boat for scrap recycling of pleasure boats. A real milestone around your neck. I would liken it to an expensive European car where maintenance costs top $3000 a year. It’s a high earners game or a fully trained marine mechanic with access to cheap parts. Your opinion may vary.
As a boat owner I hate the idea of another cost, a cost that would be carried by all responsible boat owners. However the US solution is to have boats licensed, the same way cars are licensed. No license means the state can impound the abandoned vehicle. More importantly it identifies the owner, and provides a pool of funds that are then used to deal with end of life boats. Owners of old boats would be less likely to simply walk away if they knew they would be on the hook for salvage. At some point boats need to be responsibly hauled out, partially recycled, and sent to the landfill.
Government has created this situation where the cost of living is absurd and then wants to deal the heavy hand to those who have to live on a boat in the harbor. All the power to these people living there I say.
this has been a Vancouver "dream" since I arrived in 1978. it's part of the myth of the city and the area; we're on the ocean , after all.
This has been going on in S. Fl. since the 80's
Get barges and tie ropes to 5 per barge and tow them away
Where?
The junkyard
Maybe we can put the boats on Hastings street next to the tents? 🤷♂️
Poor people are fine unless rich people can see them.
False Creek (and other venues) are FEDERAL foreshore and thus protected by FEDERAL MARINE LAW, not city, not G.V.R.D., and you can't just call the cops and waltz in and confiscate shipping. Unless you're a 300 million Euro. Russian oligarch yacht, in which case, go for it.
The government needs to take care of the low income housing
This would all be solved by limiting people to one home each like toilet paper during the pandemic.
No one has the balls to deal with it. I personally know of one individual working in Victoria who has a boat anchored in Ganges harbor. Pumps his head directly into the harbor and doesn't care about the rules. If they sink, they risk fuel leaks also an obstruction to other boaters.
Drag the boats to the dump and burn them. with or without the owners on board.
Start a go fund me page. but get off your collective butts and do something.
Is it really illegal to moor here? That would be strange. Or is the illegal part simply the abandoning, sinking, and hazard to navigation?
Clearly, there is not enough deterrent presently built into the legal system to inhibit boat owners from engaging in this kind of "squatting".
Unless the owners of these boats face criminal charges with mandatory prison sentences, and/or these boats are forcibly seized/confiscated, towed away, and sold for scrap, this kind of nonsense will only continue with impunity.
This is not a whole lot different from how cars are treated.
If you leave your car parked long enough in someone else's parking lot and/on the shoulder at the side of the highway, it gets towed and impounded, sooner or later.
Next.
Is there law about wer and when to tie up your boat?the cities and towns dont control the water the fedarales will tell you.
@Itchicus Scrotumus I think it's under legal quagmire, or huge can of worms lol
I want a boat. Can I have one of them?
Mostly rich people not wanting to look at poor people
@D R You obviously don't own a boat, and it is not for either of the reasons you describe
@@clark9064 more feces, urine, fuel, oil, detergents and chemicals go into false creek through the storm drains than from those boats. im not defending the boats im just saying more pollution comes from the city streets, its not even close. Google what happens with all the sewage the city produces
If boat owners are abandoning their boats, and nothing bad happened in the area that would misplace any of the boats then boats that are removed could be given to people who would want a boat.
Normally people would moor a boat at a marina, or on their own property on water.
"Mooring Your Boat"
"Mooring refers to lassoing, tethering, tying, or otherwise securing your boat to a fixed object, such as a mooring buoy, rather than dropping an anchor to secure your vessel anywhere you fancy. You can moor your boat to a mooring buoy, dock, quay, wharf, jetty, or pier."
In my opinion, it doesn't look like the boats are moored. The boats could either be abandoned, or misplaced.
It's all lies and deciet. I live on this water. Allmost all of us clean up and are reasonable. Government doesn't want free thinkers who do not support the housing crises and.pay rent on a home /suite. It's all agenda. Wake up and think for yourself. Government is good at seperate us so I don't GAF what anyone says about us living in our Boats. Vancouver is most expensive rent in North America if not world. Spinless 🐑 braiwashed by government agenda and deceit through media
@@eddiespagetti8395 What is shown on the video is not a place where anyone should be living. What is shown on the video is a public area where boaters can travel on water.
There are marinas in Canada that allow liveaboards. In other words there are marinas that allow people to live there all year on a boat.
Another option could be to buy a waterfront property. Someone who buys a waterfront property can also stay on a boat on water all year as well.
Just dry dock them if they don't have a licence on them... If people want them back... They have to pay to get them out of dry dock... Why are we treating them any different than a car... Impound...
How is this difficult for the Police, with all their resources ??? How do we expect them to solve crimes, if they can't even handle simple stuff like this ? They should be ASHAMED !
@D R If the boat disappears, give the owners 2 months to contact VPD or it will be sold at auction (and registered), or scrapped if it doesn't sell.
Omg. It’s about time!
These law officials are full of it when it comes to removing these boats
They just don't want the expense coming out of there budget beacause they have no recourse
Also
I really don't care as it doesn't affect me and I'm a troll😃
Free boats anyone??? Go grab a freebie an help clean up false creek..its for the public health an saftey so it's practically mandatory to do so peeps
The owners are broke with mental or addiction issues. Fines will not ever fix the derelict boat problem. That should be obvious. Some of them have dozens of stolen bikes on them as well. It's pathetic we can't get rid of these things.
The city lets them rot?
Too much big brother telling you what you can and can't do or where you can live . Policing for profit.
Since authorities are incapable there, I think Mexico and the United States should tow their derelicts there to dispose of them. After all, how many Canadian planes do I see abandoned on derelict/defunct US airports?
Same thing when they drop off their old motorhomes off in the forests
Road vehicles are registered and have multiple vin # to trace back to the last registered owner. That person will bare the full liability foe all costs incurred in removal. Many boats before the 90's have no title or registration to trace.
Swami Pastrami say's there are more bicycles under that boat than on it.
Abandoned? Have a yard sale man, problem solved, I have to tell those Canucks everything......
Expect more of this as we transition to communism.
Class warfare. Leave them alone.
This has been a problem for over a decade 😂 Vancity government is a joke
This is a pretty good visual of the decline of our city, province and country. Please remember this when you vote...
Houseboats for homeless would be a great idea. Are the boats all politically tied to green peace. Call Elizabeth May.
Tow all these boats out to deep water let the local shooting range invite marksman to sink them that well be fun 🤩
Only if you are on board those boats
These boats are people's homes
@@charleschamberlain53 settle down Charles or somebody will put a muzzle on you!
Don’t care 🤷♂️ I don’t want a boat 🛥
Canada is falling apart.
Thanks Trudeau.
yarrrrrrrrr!
Vancouver spends $10 million a day so the homeless can party and theive all night without jobs. The city should sue the nearby Indian bands for causing most of the cities problems. Just as they do to our cities.
You fine people who have no money instead of give them a safe option? wtf
Commie Broadcasting Corporation.
Justin's Canada.
Raising the cost of rent, food and fuel would solve people living in sinking boats.