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There was 1 person from the very start who always cared about Naruto. The hero that nobody talks about, Teuchi Ichiraku, the ramen shop owner. He's the only guy in the village who never hated Naruto for a single second, and never had doubts. He always gave him food, even free food.
Hiruzen is never stated to be hating Naruto, just too occupied to raise him. So he would be tied with Ichiraku.
He is the hero of the village
@@oryxthetakenking8275 thats an stupid excuse tho there's no way he's that busy im pretty sure he had a free time for naruto everyday but he only come to give naruto money he doesnt care at all not that i say he doesnt care but the series just make him that way
I just like to headcanon the first time Naruto went to the Ichiraku Ramen shop he just came with his allowance from the 3rd and the guy was like "ugh, fine, just eat this Ramen and go" and then Naruto was like "For real old man!", grins stupidly and proceeds to down the entire bowl and then say "That's the best thing I've ever eaten! Thanks a lot" (with even bigger stupidly big smile) and then the Ramen guy was just thinking to himself "shit, he's a demon fox kid, why is he so endearing" and then proceeds to tell Naruto he can come by anytime he's hungry and Naruto cheers in excitement
And his daughter as well.
Naruto is basically that kid you knew in highschool that didn't talk about home life cuz it was shit and really didn't have much going for him, then you catch up with them years later and they're a family man with a nice job and a bunch of cool stories and skills they gained after they left school 😂
The fact that being raised WITH Sasuke would make more sense, keeping in mind the original story, Naruto absolutely doing his best to bring him back, rather than just being his team member.
Give the nuclear fox to the only clan that can weaponize it? That haven't been trusted since day one?
@@aceofspade2120 yeah danzo would never let that happen. But if hiruzen wasn't such a pusshover, he'd be able to make it happen if he really wanted to. Danzo really is hiruzen's biggest failure. He failed his responsibility to the village by letting danzo do whatever he wanted. They're lucky naruto just so happened to have a heart of gold
The the other Konoha elders would have objected to that, they feared the Uchiha already why give them the tailed beast?
It wouldn't make any sense
Never thought I'd see the day we no longer blame Hiruzen for child endangerment.
In his defense, that’s a world where they have child soldiers as a norm.
Yeah true. Well naruto grew up not being a spoilt brat and hardworking like a character i know.Still sakura will always be blamed🤣🤣🤣🤣
Same
@@deantefields7736 it was actually Hashirama's and Tobirama's dream to stop children from being sent to the battlefield. We see Hiruzen being one of the first children entering into the academy but after Hiruzen grew up and became Hokage himself, child soldiers became the norm once again. We don't know of any children fighting in the 1st shinobi war although we do no very little on the 1st.
I thought it was stupid that people blamed him in the first place.
Its surprising that not many mention jiraiya on the blame for raising naruto. Both jiraiya and hiruzen neglected in raising naruto. Naruto pretty much raised himself,this is sad.😢
Having Jiraya know Naruto since birth( or when Kushina was pregnant) was a mistake, that's not to mention he barely taught naruto all his jutsu during the timeskip,i still like Jiraya though.
I always thought Jiraiya was travelling and writing his book which is why he declined being Hokage before and after Minato died.
There is also a mistranslation for Godparent as there is no such thing in japan, he was actually called himself "naming parent" which is exactly like it sounds. In other words, Jiraiya was never actually meant to assume guardianship over Naruto. Aside from being in charge of the Key, Jiraiya's "responsibility" began and ended with Naruto's name.
I'm giving Jiraiya a pass because he was actively traveling around, and he had no reason to believe His sensei wouldn't make sure Naruto was taken care of
Out of all the eligible people, Id put Jiraiya close to last, if not last. He had much more important duties being an informant/spy for the village.
Jiraya should have gotten his son point blank
I think any of the ninja clans could've adopted Naruto. But I think the nara clan would have been a good choice, a clan that showed they already didn't have issues with Naruto and they are all chilled out thinkers so could easily teach Naruto how to better control his emotions
I would say the Inuzuka would make a lot of sense because the knowledge on how to train and care for dogs could be useful to Naruto in controling and gaining mastery over a canine demon within him and I think that argument would be really easy to make to the elders but also with the Inuzuka being a lesser clan it would make them one of the most powerful clans in the village so they could easily be convinced to agree even if they don't like the politics of taking in the boy (though I doubt Kibas mom is much for politics anyways)
Im now tempted to write a fanfiction called Nara Clan Therapy where Naruto and kurama is given therapy and grows up with the nara clan, but im not much of a fanfiction writer DX
@Baby-Blue-102 I love that idea "so you have a fox demon inside you, that's such a drag, how does it make you feel?"
@CowboyMikeShow this is kinda what I mean, pretty much every single major ninja clan could and would have been able to help Naruto in some way
@@theyellowdino3487 this is kinda funny because naruto didn't know he had the demon fox inside him untill like, episode 1 of naruto. so "I HAVE WHAT?!" is very much a possible response.
If Danzo wasn’t given the authority he was given, the uchiha would’ve stopped kuramas attack with relative ease using their sharingan, gaining the praise and trust of the entire village, and likely Fugaku and Mikoto being his new parents, and being able to protect him and suppress kurama everytime he posed a threat to naruto or the village, similar to how sasuke was able to supress kuramas chakra with a base sharingan, also having elite talent to train around and a brother in sasuke and itachi would’ve served naruto a whole lot of good.
Also I'd like to make the argument if Hiruzen went to Fugaku and explained to the Uchiha the situation on what happened with the 9-tails attack that Danzo was the one making decisions behind his back on not allowing the Uchiha to help with the 9-tails attack, and had given him Naruto to raise alongside his wife Mikoto Uchiha, I think the Uchiha could find the leaf more trustworthy since they've basically been given the most powerful weapon in the Leaf's arsenal to raise as their own clan, and not being trusted and respected by the Leaf was the main reason they were plotting a coup in the first place.
I agree with this theory however I’d like to state that if they trusted the uchiha they probably would have entrusted the rearing of Naruto, however since they had a history with the 9 tails (madara) distrust was already established. The whole reason they were not allowed to intervene is because they thought the uchiha were lowkey behind the attack. But if hiruzen had decided to let fugaku talk with them and danzo present there’s a chance your theory would have become true
I blame hiruzen the most cuz he’s the hokage and minatos last wish was for him to watch over him he could have at least put some real money into Naruto especially with Naruto being a jinjuriki. I would have had 5 start chefs going every day nanny’s all type of shit
There is absolutely no world in which Hiruzen handing Kohona's only superweapon to the Uchiha doesnt get him a visit from a couple of teenagers in Anbu masks, its was made clear from the very first scene with Danzo that the konohaa advisors favour him, if they were willing to sign of on the murder of an entire clan, weaakening their own village in the process, they would sign off on the assassination of a Hokage. The situation is way more nuanced than "if people had been nicer to uchihaas they wouldnt have rebelled".
That could've been broken and dope
@@tickledeggzThey already tried to assassinate him once and failed miserably. Danzo himself would’ve be dogged by Hiruzen and same goes with the other elders.
Bruh jiraiya was Narutos literal godfather. Bro should have at least met him 😂
LMFAO, Nah it was a mistranslation as godparents arent really a thing in Japan, he is the naming parent, thats as far as to goes. He shouldve met him but at the same time Jiraiya defo gets a pass he was the eyes and ears for the village when it came to international security, that environment in itself is no place to raise a child.
@@kaiser234That's true, but still could've visited once a year or sm..
He doesn't get a pass on anything. Why does he get a pass but the 3rd hokage doesn't when he was in the same situation
I like think even Jiraiya was aware of how bad of an influence he generally is for a child and decided not to meet him before he had started puberty.
Objection, Naruto regularly drank spoiled milk and was basically illiterate by the time he graduated. For Christ's sake, you're the uncontested leader of a military dictatorship, find one nuetral anbu to at least take basic care of him
That was his fault naruto wasn’t a very good student and how is naruto illiterate?
Anbu are elite ninja needed for covert and delicate missions you really think there going to waist on on babysitting
@TheAllmightyPUGS when that mission is baby sitting the child who saved the village, is the child of the late 4th homage and is all that stands between the village being destroyed, yes. I'd consider that an anbu worthy fucking mission
@@cryingtomatohead8626 it wouldn’t be nesscery though it’s not like people were beating in him or was common knowledge outside the village that he was a jinchuriki. He didn’t need an anbu body guard he is already in the middle of the strongest village in the elemental nations
@@TheAllmightyPUGS didn't Naruto call it chatara once, that's like basic knowledge just living in a town with ninjas, letalone graduating. At that point, he either needed special help that wasn't being provided, or he was actively sabotaged. Either way, Hiruzens problem
You failed to mention Tsunade since technically she is the closest to blood family on the part of Tsunade's grandmother Mito Uzumaki, she knows of the existence of Naruto, in the scene in which they 'meet' she implies that He relates Naruto to the Kyubi, he knows who she is and how she is a sanin, possibly he knows about his parents, he complains that he lost his family but he has Naruto, but even knowing about him he didn't do anything until Naruto basically Rasengeo his mind. back to reality
Sorry for misspeling
I kinda agree, but also not. She's also traumatized by what has happened in her life. Her fiancé and her little brother both died. She hasn't mentally recovered to raise Naruto. I honestly think Kakashi should have at least been his (Naruto's) protector. Maybe not raising him but being his personal guard and even a friend. Kakashi is one of the strongest ninjas in Konaha, and he has a very personal relationship with Naruto's family. He should have been there for him. It could have been him redeeming himself in failing to protect Minato and Kushina. Protecting their son with every scrap of power he had. (Also imagine how strong Naruto would have been at the start if Kakashi was training him from day one.)
@@crazyscotsman9327 would have been for tsunade too. Because of her trauma I think she would be very protective and not make the mistakes like she did with her little brother.
Naruto would have made sure that she didn't become an alcoholic and addicted to games and she would have made sure that Naruto got a lot of love and protection. Through Naruto, Tsunade would have had the child, which she never had but certainly wanted with Dan. I think Tsunade would have trained a lot with Naruto and made sure he became strong, as that would give him a much better chance of surviving. She would probably have seen that Naruto has above-average healing abilities thanks to Kurama and perhaps would have taken advantage of this so that he could use better healing jutsu than herself and thus be able to heal others as well as he can heal himself. I wouldn't be surprised that she would also process her trauma because she would know Naruto doesn't die as easily as others thanks to the fox in him. Back then it wasn't redcon that the fox would live on if Naruto died. It was always said that when Naruto dies, the fox in him also dies. That's why the fox did everything he could to ensure Naruto ultimately survived.
@@Fuchsfeuer Thats...not how trauma works. She only ever got over it after her arc with a developed Naruto dude. Like...if I remember she abandoned the village already at that point. Thats a mighty fine wall of fanfic.
Shizune was 4 when Dan died. When did she start following Tsunade because she was very much a child when she left.@@crazyscotsman9327
I like to think that the Nara clan should have taken care for him. in the flashbacks it seems like shikamaru was allowed to play with naruto unlike the other kids, and generally the nara are smart enough to understand that naruto isnt the beast the sealed within him, plus it would have made the moment the 10 tails killed Shikaku so much more important
Akemichi clan
Hiruzen was the Hokage, but he also had a whole clan. A big, powerful one too. Why wasn't he letting them raise Naruto?
I mean if he tried his whole clan can get heat from the village and there likely ppl in his clan that would hate Naruto
The yamanaka, they specialize is manipulating minds and keeping the nine tails subdued is mostly a mental battle for jinchuriki. Plus they are intertwined with two other major clans, the nara and akimichi who could help subdue naruto in case the nine tails began to leak out. Sorry for any bad spelling with names, but it's the most logical and safest solution to this.
You're COOKING. this would made him and shikamaru closer and maybe with choji too with their love of eating
Also, as a blond child he wont be too out of place among the other clan of blonds
Random question but do you think when people say Shikamaru is Naruto’s best friend over Sasuke that they are forgetting Shikamaru literally best friend is Choji or are purposely ignoring it because they don’t care or respect Choji as a character?
@@emmarod8746 well shikamaru was one of the first people his age who not only accepted him but also hung out with naruto so I see where their coming from, but yeah shikamaru and choji are alot closer.
don't have much of an opinion on it, though given the history between the Akimichi, Nara and Yamanaka, I feel like someway, somehow it'd inadvertently end with the three clans collectively raising Naruto.
"As leader of the Uchiha, Fugaku was focused on the clan's interest and welfare and had a strong sense of responsibility.[1] His son, Sasuke, saw him as a stern and uncaring man while he was seen as a father-figure to the rest of the clan. As Itachi was his successor as head of the clan, Fugaku spent much of his time focusing on the development of his eldest and little time with his youngest. Sasuke trained constantly in order to get his father's attention and approval. Near the end of his life, Fugaku had switched his attention to Sasuke, having lost hope in the wayward Itachi. He was only impressed by great feats and rarely praised anyone, having high expectations. Fugaku was very serious, hardly smiling most of the time. To which, he showed noticeable distaste to Itachi when he would shirk his duties like attending meetings and missions.
While outwardly Fugaku seemed strict and neglectful towards his eldest and youngest sons respectively, coupled with his devotion and focus of his clan's welfare led him to seem hateful and non-negotiable, he was still a very caring individual to his sons.[8] According to Mikoto, when she and Fugaku were alone, Fugaku would mostly, if not only, talk about Sasuke. While always trying to motivate Sasuke to improve, he failed to see Sasuke's desire to be acknowledged as his son rather than compared to Itachi. He loved both his sons so dearly that when he saw Itachi slaughter their clan, he gave Itachi a chance for an explanation. After realising he was doing this to safeguard Sasuke's life, rather than resisting death as he did not want to hurt his eldest son, he and his wife willingly allowed Itachi to execute them in exchange for securing Sasuke's future and merely asking Itachi to take care of his youngest child. Fugaku also demonstrated great remorse for the turn Itachi's life had taken, blaming himself for the pain Itachi had to endure after reflecting that Itachi could have been the first Uchiha Hokage, sadly admitting his burdening Itachi with the Uchiha Clan's mission had stolen his son's future from him.[9]
In the anime, Fugaku inherited much of the Will of Fire. He was also much wiser and more patient than his clan, genuinely wanting to preserve peace in Konoha, going along with the relocation despite the Uchiha Clan's protests to help quell Konoha's suspicion of them over time. He even went as far as to instruct his fellow clan members to leave Kakashi alone, who had been recently implanted with a Sharingan from Obito, wishing to honour Obito's "dying" decision despite Kakashi not being of Uchiha descent He also asked Hiruzen to name his second son after Hiruzen's father. However, as his clan continued to grow angrier and more restless from their persecution, Fugaku eventually conceded to his clan's desire for revolution. Still, he expressed his dismay at causing the bloodshed of civilians, hoping to end it quickly and with as little harm as possible. He even chose to keep his Mangekyō Sharingan a secret from his clan in fear that it would drive them to seek greater power through immoral means.
Hold up I thought Asuma is Hiruzen's son. Well 2nd son
My favorite episode is when he steals some of Naruto food,that took Naruto half a day to scavenge.
he stold food from an orphan
He didn't steal any of naruto's food, naruto gave it to him
He didn't steal food from an orphan,, naruto gave him the food
Sasukes mom raising Naruto actually wouldve been a good way to make narutos childhood make sense. If Hiruzen or Jaraiya raised Naruto he wouldnt be hated most likely and thatd be bad for the show. Having Naruto be Sasukes adopted brother while not the perfect solution, is better imo then having a 5 year old living alone. Also Hiruzen, Jaraiya, and Kakashi all pretending Naruto is just a regular kid is a plothole tbh.
I think I have a What If... What if the Uchiha dead ass just leave Konoha and take Naruto with them. Sure, no way that is happening either, but the Uchiha dead serious saying they've had enough and being willing to leave rather than fight over it would be a hell of a problem for both Donzo and Hiruzen. And Naruto going with them is less them taking Naruto and more him agreeing with the idea and tagging along.
I want this for him 🥺
Nah the real person to take care of Naruto should've been the ramen shop guy
To be fair, the Mikoto thing could still work. Minato just would need to say "look after my son. by the way, a masked man with a sharingan did this. He isn't from here. I'm sure of that. Be on guard."
And I never thought they'd use him. I subscribe to the idea that Naruto's positive influence would work wonders on Fugaku. And with Hiruzen mentioning at least to the clan heads and village elders that it was a mysterious man Minato warned him about, blame passes away from the Uchiha. Less distrust, they'd be more inclined to be part of the village. With this mystery target having one of their eyes, they would be all the more eager to prove their loyalty and protect the newly adopted child of Fugaku and Mikoto.
And Naruto being the positive influence he is could help Itachi with his burden of darkess as well. Genuinely, his light and positivity tempered by manners taught as a son of the clan head (adopted or not) I believe would help to benefit the entire clan.
The coup only would have happened from many years of distrust, pushing the Uchiha to the edge and ostracizing the whole clan based on assumptions that any mind walker could attest to their innocence.
That's a pretty big gamble to make that early in his life given the circumstances.
Was surprised Iruka didn't get mentioned in the video. Iruka's parents died during the Kyubi attack, which led him to become an attention-seeking prankster. He literally lived Naruto's life and understood more than anyone what Naruto was going through.
Hiruzen actually provided Naruto with a monthly allowance while also taking care of his bills
Hiruzen could have just hired a full time babysit for Naruto. It isn't so difficult to get someone for Naruto that has to take care of them and same with many other people. I feel like excuses them isn't really possible to me. It's something so simple.
This was something that always confused me, the expired milk gag at the start of the series was funny and all but prior to that, somebody had to have been feeding toddler Naruto right? Like why didn't that person continue looking in on Naruto until he was legally an adult?
Because Naruto ain they child
There had to be someone caring for Naruto as an infant. Otherwise he wouldn't even live until 12.
I always wonder that too. Someone fed him a bottle, changed his diaper, bathed, and taught him for YEARS and then just left??? No freaking way! That's not how that works... I have three kids, and the amount of effort and time you put into each one once they're born builds major bonds. I think Naruto's childhood just needs to be labeled as a plot hole at this point.
it was the Sarutobi clan, nick mentioned that here in the video. when Hiruzen was doing hokage things he left naruto with the sarutobi clan to be looked after this means Naruto was quite familiar with Asuma an possibly an infant konohamaru while he was growing up.
as to the reason Hiruzen pulled him out of the clan was sheerly due to Danzo, he knew Danzo was going to make a it into a huge deal an try to oust him from the seat of hokage which was not a great idea while the village was trying to recover from the nine-tailed fox attack. but also Hiruzen didn't want a huge target too be put on naruto's head if the neighboring lands had discovered the hokage was keeping the jinchuriki of 9 tails under their house they would seize that opportunity to try an attack hiruzen an abduct naruto.
@@DeusGamez Definitely agree with pulling out his clan to avoid Danzo's propaganda is likely, but he still could've gave a ninja, or a group of them, a secret mission to take care of Naruto.
Ah, yes, showing unrestricted hatred to a emotional child carrying a Chakra nuke in his gut makes so much sense
what would have happened if naruto just left konoha. Not turn into a bad guy not going to orochimaru but just straight up pack his belongings left an F U note and left? I would say this could take place when he fails to get sasuke back and sasuke somehow convince naruto that the leaf wasn't worth it but what do you think?
No he wouldn't go against the leaf im pretty sure
@@RobertHillard-xw7xd I'm not saying he go against the leaf. Just would have been convince to leave and find a new place to live
A free tailed beast just roaming about my boy wouldve been snacthed up so quick lol
I feel this show ended a little too fast 😔. It had a good way of saving anime
This is a pretty interesting idea!
Hear me out: hiruzen should’ve assigned that one forever genin guy to take care of naruto. Not even necessarily live with him or anything just cook for him a few times a week, drop by and hang out, etc.
Maito Dai? He died when Gai was still a genin.
@@tainadesouza28 no, the old guy who was probably just a filler character
@@azure7304 I thik it should've been Gaku Inuzuka. he was said to see Minato as a younger brother and he was alive during the 4th great shinobi war.
I always found it weird that Hiruzen didn't like .... do better for Naruto. Like, he had to have known that Naruto was basically shunned by GROWN adults lol. No matter how you slice it, that is just unacceptable to me.
its a plot hole in naruto. kishimoto originally meant 3rd hokage to be a powerful warrior (the strongest hokage ever) in his heyday but is now a kind hearted leader. but even he couldn't over come the village's prejudice against naruto . that's why there's no mention of "he neglected / abused naruto" anywhere in the story, or at his funeral
but when danzo got introduced, he made the 3rd look like a soft fool
I think Jiraya and Hiruzen didn't order someone to take care of Naruto because they feared that this person would kill him. I mean most of the villagers wanted him dead so it wouldn't be surprising.
Kakashi is like super young... like I already know this because of these videos, but it keeps slipping out of my memory, it's kinda something to adjust to.
That he's like, what, late 20's early 30's when he gets the team we know and love.
9:48 ....I'll say it again.... Assign an Ambu to the mission... maybe multiple in case they need to be swapped out, so it feels natural when one up and leaves and "uncle" code name takes over for "aunt" code name leaving
there were anbu assigned to naruto believe it or not but not for the reason you think it was basically a compromise hiruzen had to make to appease Danzo an his councilors.
their duty was to observe him only and only get involved if the nine-tailed seal was in jeopardy an basically be the first line of defense to pin down kurama if he broke free.
Mikoto actually wanted to adopt Naruto but she wasn’t allowed
Honestly, the blame ultimately falls to Hiruzen. This isn't because of Minato's request but because he was Hokage, and Naruto was arguably the greatest asset Kohona held.
No, clan could have him as that could upset the internal balance of power between them. Ideally, he should have been assigned a trusted minder(s) and likely a rotating guard as he would have been a high priority assassination or kidnapping target.
Early years (likely to around age 5) you would have some form of stability before getting him into the academy. He should have had some form of support network to fall back on, and I assume something like dormitories for orphan students should have existed in the academy.
His education should have been fair. He also should have had some person/group to be able to ask for help. He should have graduated on his first attempt and then had more guidance initially as a genin, as again, he was the greatest military asset for the village. He would have been a very different boy then.
To be fair to Hiruzen, Naruto wasn't the only orphan child of deceased shinobi. I mean there was Sasuke, Kakashi, Iruka and even Orochimaru there's probably even more especially during wars.
@uncommon_name9337 There are likely countless more orphans in Kohona from Shinobi parents in just Naruto's and Sasuke's year than you have listed.that wasn't my point though. Upon having the Kyuubi sealed in Naruto, he became arguably the most valuable asset for the village.
He should have been treated neutrally at worst and had some form of basic support network that other shinobi orphans should have had. The handling of both Naruto and Sasuke after they became orphans was a failure. The same can be said of what we know of Kakashi's childhood before service.
The bare minimum should have been some form of group housing for orphans in the academy with some form of supervision. This could have just been like military barracks with newly promoted genin acting as the "room leaders" able to help others and done low-level D-rank missions with the academy students to gain leadership experience.
I think that shikaku Nara or Choza Akimochi could have also been a parent to Naruto, they are the only adults in Naruto that let their kids play with Naruto because they did not fear him the same way,even though they might not know Naruto’s lineage ( although they might have suspected somthing) they were never mean to him, shikaku even tells shikamaru to do what he thinks is right and not be influenced by the other villagers, and obviously they have kids around Naruto’s age that Naruto could have grown up with and they turned out to be great people so their parenting must good.
Honestly if Naruto was raised by the Uchiha then Danzo would have had to be really careful with his moves. Not only are they the strongest clan in the village but now they have the Nine Tails on their side. Also given how Itachi felt for Sasuke he likely also would have been very protective of Naruto, meaning he would see how unjustly the village was treating him which would likely lead to both him and Shisui not having the same loyalty to Konoha and instead more to the clan.
I blame Jiraya more than Hiruzen because Jiraya had the money to provide for him, he was Naruto's godfather and he had the toads who could have helped out
Its a mistranslation, Jiraiya said he was the "naming parent" and not a godfather as there is no such thing in japan. In other words, Jiraiya was never actually meant to assume guardianship over Naruto. Aside from being in charge of the Key, Jiraiya's "responsibility" began and ended with Naruto's name.
I always thought Jiraiya was traveling and writing his books or on a mission when Naruto was born.
That "speedrun having parents" statement is the best part of this video. I was dying laughing.
I personally think that night traumatised Hiruzen as well, his wife of undoubtedly many years was cut down , his successor along with his wife whom hiruzen admired both died in front of him, and given his visibly sentimental mentality, it makes sense that this experience would’ve horrified him similar to how it did Kakashi. This is why Hiruzen struggled I think to face naruto as a kid and seemed to deal with him quickly and then take his leave, their conversation in narutos room also shows that hiruzen is deeply effected from that night still.
The 3rd hokage never struggled.
I want to know how everyone didn’t already know Naruto was Minato and Kushinas son. Everyone knew kushina was the nine tails jinchuriki and Everyone knew Kushina was pregnant (kind of hard to hide that fact towards the end). After Naruto got here and Danzo told everyone he was the jinchuriki and not to mention Naruto looks like minato. I don’t see how everyone wasn’t able to deduce that he was the fourth hokages son. Did I miss something?
they knew them yes but they didn't know what their child looked like or if the child had survived the attack because kushina and minato had both been reported dead so naturally i think most people assumed the baby also died or that was the lie that hiruzen an his aids decided to create to suppress details of what had actually happened that night in order to protect Naruto's true identity.
No one knew she was the Jinchuriki. It was top secret under Hiruzen’s command and there’s NO WAY Minato would let ANYONE know. Her pregnancy was also hidden.
Tsunade has uzumaki blood in her considering her grandparents is a senju and a uzumaki
I think another aspect of Hiruzen to look over is that, out of all the Hokage, Hiruzen ruled the longest. Hashirama ruled for maybe 10-20 years, Tobirama ruled for a couple years at the most, and Minato ruled for 2 years. Hiruzen in the meantime ruled for well over 50 years in total, meaning that--due to the law of averages--he was the one who had the most time to make the most mistakes as a leader. Not to excuse the frankly atrocious things he's done, but I do believe that our opinions of the 4 Hokage are stemmed from the fact that Minato and Tobirama just didn't have enough time to establish as horrid of a legacy as Hiruzen. And that's saying a LOT for Tobirama.
wdym? tobirama was by far the best hokage. he introduced ranks, schools, chunin exams and police. he had 1 year, hashirama had at least 10. hashirama wasnt shit comparted to tobirama
All I’m saying is that we would have heard more about the repercussions of the attack on the Uzumaki had lord2nd been alive.(probably wouldn’t have been an attack to begin with)
I’ve never bought into the idea that the Hokage is as busy as they’re portrayed as being. It’s one village. They’re essentially the Mayor of a small city. Even with military decisions, it wouldn’t be all that. There certainly wouldn’t be thousands of bits of paperwork all day long.
People be saying this was an awesome vid but it's only been out for 7 minutes😂
The biggest reason I can't NOT blame Hiruzen is that he COULD HAVE DELEGATED ANYONE ELSE TO RAISE THE KID WHILE HE WAS BUSY
But dude didn't even bother telling ANYONE who Naruto's parents were abd that they SAVED THE FREAKING VILLAGE and to keep an eye on him so he'd at least have 1 person Danzo wouldn't turn against Naruto INCLUDING JIRAYA who at least has the excuse of not physically being there or being directly asked and AGREEING TO DO IT
Which also raises a potential point, considering Hiruzen was asked directly would he have even let someone else take over unless he directly asked them?
Iruka sensei was the dad who stepped up
Naruto could have been sent to live and learn under the fire monks, he would have had protection, learning, discipline, and with his chakra could have been seen as a young prodigy to open the gates at a young age to pass onto a higher rank within the monks. Also, he would have met asuma much earlier and could have a greater understanding of wind release from that.
W comment, i was always i interested in naruto learning from a different group and naruto learning the 8 gates
Naruto is a secrete weapon for the leaf village, there is no way the hokage will let other people take control of Naruto.
I don't want to hear anything else the 3rd Hokage is 1000ft Deep😂😂😂
just quickly pointing out the village elder from that one-shot kinda resembles Hagoromo.
one thing that's a bit odd is that Danzo never tried to pull Naruto into the Root considering all the other orphans with special abilities he took up. Having the nine-tails jinchuuriki under his command should make Danzo wet in his pants
What I don't understand is why Hiruzen never asked Kakashi to keep an eye on Naruto. He was too young to raise a kid, but as a member of the Anbu he could've watched Naruto without anybody even noticing. And considering that Naruto is the child of his Sensei, he might have grown closer to him over time. Maybe even close enough to actually talk to him, so neither of them feels as alone as they did at the time.
Depression phase or Kushina situation
I want to believe that Naruto’s absences of a nurturing parentage was because of Donzo’s psyop. Leaving Hiruzen to with hold affection & attention to not raise a questions. Ei why is the Hokage giving affection & attention to the most hated person in the village & who are his parents? Ultimately, leaving Hiruzen & Kakashi to watch from the shadows
Technically Naruto still has a couple relatives when he was just born not as much after 7 years but Tsunade is his cousin because of their clans bring Branch members of each other the Hyuga Clan because they are quite literally cousins to Tsunade Naruto and Sasuke and and the Uchiha are cousins of Naruto Tsunade and Hinata so technically Sasuke and Naruto do have cousins they technically could have went to.
For Mikoto would be a bad idea, If the Uchiha raised Naruto he would have become a bargaining chip against Konoha, either you listen to us or we put Naruto under genjutsu and let Kurama free which during the period before the ku Fugaku could have been pressured to do
Mikoto actually wanted to take Naruto in, but she couldn't for the reason you just stated.
8:38 so far, you’re making good points; however, you’re asking for rationality and reason from people who were grieving over the deaths of their own loved ones at the claws of the Demon Fox. In their eyes, Naruto was not a child- he WAS the Demon Fox, and they couldn’t really see him as anything else through their grief and anger. Once they finally started thinking of him like a person, many of them felt quite guilty for treating him that way, but you see this exact mindset from the guy who attacked Naruto in the first episode, Mizuki. Indeed, even Iruka was guilty of this until Hiruzen basically forced him to interact with Naruto as a teacher. That’s effectively the plot of the first episode of Naruto, although we don’t get Iruka’s perspective on it until I think a flashback in Shippuden.
No. Hiruzen was taking quite a number of risks. He had sentient nuclear bomb on his hands, and he allowed it grow without any serious supervision, quality training and in atmosphere of resentment. What if Naruto snapped, like Gaara? Or if Akatsuki timing wasn’t perfect to miss the window when Naruto was virtually unprotected? Or if Orichimaru or Danzo took real interest in Naruto?
People really don’t understand how good your writing is. Your video scripts actually go crazy.
We all know Ramon shop guy was naruto real father
That zesty basketball shot though
I kind of like the theory more that that's his mother
I can think of 2 other options.
1) I get why the Uchiha were not allowed, BUT Konoha had 3 other noble clans - The Hyuga, The Akimichi and Aburame. Why not one of them? Or any other trustworthy clan that has been loyal to Konoka since its fundation?
2) what about one Kushina's genin teammates? Or her sensei? You can seriusly tell me Mikoto Uchiha were Minato and Kushina's only friend.
I'm not sure this is right or wrong but this is what I think :
1) if the Uchiha were discriminated against, I wouldn't be surprised if the rest of the others also were. There's probably some kind of distrust to each other
2) they were probably unalived in battle against Kurama. A lot of the villagers hated Naruto cause they lost their loved ones
I always liked hiruzen and never thought he did bad. Imagine being in his position
00:00 Ritz, they’re quite the responsibility.
In one ep its shown that hiruzen meets small naruto. We can assume that after naruto started living on his own hiruzen used to visit him, as naruto knew hiruzen in the beginning.
Hiruzen and ramem guy were the only people who didn't used to hate on Naruto.
hiruzen should have given naruto to his godfather jiraya if he could not have done the job.
Alimony Dodging Jutsu
Deadass... irs evasion jutsu
thanks NC Hammer great video, i feel like Hiruzen did try as not only did he keep an eye on him thru his ball he had basically direct access to the hokages office to see Hiruzen. And he made sure Iruka becomes a mentor and then places Kakashi as his sensei. And Jiraya was chasing Orichimaru also. I agree with NCH that Konoha failed Naruto they all couldve made sure to check in on him and train him and tell him who his parents are for crying out loud. 😅
Especially in cultures outside of the US who your related to definitely defines you to others. Especially your father so the one shot explanation made perfect sense to me. In the US I can see how that still might not suffice though.
I Wonder if after minato broke the connection between Kurama and obito. If kakashi wasn’t barred from the battlefield by hurizen, was he skilled enough at the time to place kurama under sharingan genjutsu and save minato….
20:10 unfortunately, this would NEVER be allowed, because the Uchiha were being blamed for the Nine-Tails incident, so the Nine-Tails wouldn’t have been let anywhere near them.
EDIT: ah you covered that 👌
Keep up the awesome work and videos Nick love the video
I think that if Mikoto adopted Naruto she would have to do so under the pretense that she would have to be separated from the rest of the Uchiha(baring Sasuke maybe), would be hounded by both anbu and root to make sure she had no contact with her clan, which as you already mentioned The village had no ability to do during the reconstruction. i also feel that both Jiraya and Hiruzen would be hard pressed to find people to look after Naruto after Danzo spilled the beans. In all honesty Danzo was probably the biggest factor for Naruto having the Childhood that he did.
He did the best he could.
The man lost his wife and at least one child, had to get back on the job to rebuild a destroyed village.
His relationship with Asuma shows us that Hiruzen's a good hokage, but not tje greatest dad figure, because of obviouse reasons like being a hokage almost all his life.
The desitions that Hiruzen did where cruel from the emotional point of view, but from a pragmatic view, he did the best to keep naruto safe.
How naruto had no surveillance anyone could have just kidnapped
Naruto wouldn’t have been the person he is without his backstory. Hiruzen did what he thought best, it was not the most correct way to go about it but It work out in the end. Hiruzen was a good Hokage overall to me at least.
@@emmarod8746 damn i guess danzo dont exist then
@@darryelphillip5219I said he was a good Hokage overall, not that he didn’t have anything he failed at. He had a blindspot towards those close to him. He was so soft on Danzo because he was his childhood friend. The same way he was with Orchimaru because he was one of dear students, he couldn’t believe that Orchimaru was going to the dark side till he literally caught him red-handed experimenting on children with his own eyes. It’s due to his kind nature that he failed to take earlier action on his childhood friend Danzo. Hiruzen would literally had to have caught Danzo red-handed in a truly evil act to take extreme action on him. Hiruzen always wanted to believe the best in the people around him, the same way Naruto does. They share that same trait and its easy to see why they treated treated their friends differently then everyone else when they went down dark paths. It was because they both hope they would come back into the light someday. Sasuke eventually did, but unfortunately for Hiruzen Danzo never did.
Thank you, I knew one day people would start to see that lord 3rd was actually wasn't a bad person, he good Hokage and that's why he was the longest-serving Hokage, and that Naruto loved and honored him every time he spoke of lord 3rd, nobody wants to have that conversation though😂 there must be a reason why naruto love Hiruzen.
Before watching this great video, I got to say Naruto didn't have that much of a different life than someone that was poor and had parents working 24/7 and you were raised by yourself.
Poor people are looked at like they're less than some times depending on where you live.
How nice of a story element it could’ve been if there was a neighbor who tried to avoid Naruto, but they kept having to bump into him and, against their best attempts, slowly found themselves to actually have concern and look out for him here and there. A reluctant guardian who couldn’t resist the need to ensure that Naruto was at least surviving, without our it being a home visit while he was out of his apartment, like we’ve seen the Third and even Kakashi do. What might’ve been better was if this reluctant neighbor and eventual guardian was a part of Iruka’s storyline as well. I might’ve cried an ocean at any point the story wanted to delve into their relationship more.
I love how we're reverse power scaling the hokage's clerical and administrative duties xD
12:25
"He (Hiruzen) would lose his only biological child"
Asuma - "Am I a joke to you?"
Umm, isn't Asuma Saratobi Hirizen's kid, but not konahamaru's parent?
konahamaru's uncle if i remember correctly
Naruto had every right to destroy the village
*stares suspiciously* are you sure you're okay, my dude?
The only reason why Naruto as the 7th has so much workload is only in his disability to manage things. He sooo lacks in management department, that the man who should have helped him to decrease the amount of work and stress on his shoulders (the legendary 100500IQ genius, legendary tactician, 8th hokage and a boy who really did nothing) Shikamaru had only made his job worse.
I cant even describe how these duo isnt even close to be political or strategical leaders of a military state. Hell I cant even see any of them as a chief administrator in the Wendy's next door. Huuuuh(
I think that it would be kind of realistic if jiraya knew about naruto but couldn't help him so he asked tsunade to help him raise naruto instead of getting drunk
I raise your Neji rotation by 8 chakra rods
Naruto being raised by the uchia would have been like smoking while cleaning a gas tank.
Thank you!! Finally someone who gets it!
Someone that agrees with me. Mikoto was the best choice. Also cause having Naruto raised among Uchihas was basically perfect given the ability of Sharingan and Kurama are linked and eventually whoever was strong enough to awaken the magekyo was also theoretically capable of holding obey Kurama.
I'll repeat myself: the man decided to gave the child the surname of THE ONLY CLAN that has HISTORICALLY caused so much fear that 4 ENTIRE ninja villages decided to masacre them out of face of the earth ._. if thats not bad parenting, idk what is!!
Minato didn't exactly have a lot of choices to gift that responsibility to in the moment. But, we also know the third wasn't exactly a good father to his own kids, and he'll, wasn't exactly a good grandfather either.
I've always assumed hiruzen did more to keep danzon away from Naruto and he deserves a lot of credit that he doesn't get
No one talking about how Nick was a little sassy with it 💅
What about Ikruka or ramen guy? Could they not help since they were the only ones that actually cared about Naruto.
When you think about it, Naruto was literally about an hour max old when kurama was sealed inside him mom just barely got to hold him before life when to shit
Bihh said speed running having parents 😂😂
Considering how little Naruto was involved in the first 13 years of Boruto's life, which was during an era of peace mind you, I think Hiruzen should be forgiven for not being able to devote much time for Naruto. He gave him his parent's apartment, spending money every single month, treated him with kindness and respect everytime they're shown interacting especially in the fillers... what more can you expect from what is essentially the president of your entire nation? He can't spend every single day hanging out with one particular orphan just because the orphan's father happened to be what is essentially royalty. That'd be special treatment and Naruto wouldn't be a compelling story if he was that coddled. People like Jiraiya and to an extent Kakashi should have the finger pointed at them just as much if not more so. Sure Kakashi was dealing with depression and was an active duty elite soldier most likely being sent out on all the missions of the upmost importance... but what was Jiraiya doing? Being a bum essentially. Hiruzen doesn't deserve nearly as much hate as he gets and I don't even particularly like the character.
Am I the only one laughing every time he says alimony since that's what you pay to a divorced spouse?
I would love for you to do the meme about the one kid that has the Uchiha symbol on his/her back because I can't tell if that is supposed to be a boy or a girl and if it is a girl Sasuke he would probably have taken her as his wife and that would be a interesting what if a second Uchiha survived.
Of course meme is Kakashi telling Itachi that he missed one.
0:09 I'm willing to bet money they're all East Asian countries. This boy got Yellow Fever BIIIIIG TIMMMMEEEE!
Actually if weak post-war Konoha fell it would likely be to the Stone and they’d have raised Naruto as a badass rapper (and taught him to be friends with the fox).
I cant believe you called narutos parents a ring accessory for Kurama! Its rude accurate and funny. How dare you!😂😂😂
Looking back with hindsight 20/20, the whole debate about Hiruzen raising Naruto badly was just Kishimoto didn’t plan out the future plot point properly
I’m 99% certain that while writing part 1 Kishimoto likely didn’t have the connection between Naruto and Minato in mind yet. So back then Naruto was probably meant to be an unlucky kid of some random ninja couple. Hiruzen had little responsibility and his appearances in Naruto’s childhood were meant to show how good he was that he care for a random orphaned kid when no one else did
But later we have Minato and Kushina, and suddenly Hiruzen look bad because he promised to take care of Naruto.
Hiruzen went from a kind leader who helped an unrelated orphan kid out of goodwill to a neglectful guardian who forgot his promise
Honestly, I think Naruto is a good example of the old saying "It takes a Village to raise a child".
For better or worse, Naruto wasn't raised solely by any one person; it was the Village of Konoha that raised him and helped to shape him into the man he is today.
I think he always recognized that, which is why he always fought so hard to protect his village, to bring Sasuke back to the village, and why he always wanted to lead his people. He always saw Konoha as his family, it just took Konoha a bit longer to embrace him back.
I think it's poetic that the boy who was raised by his village is now the one who leads it ❤
Hiruzen has Iruka look in on him. There's a flashback of him telling Iruka not to hate Naruto because they both lost their parents that night.
"Ren, they're quite the responsibility..." Had to rewind the start of the video a few times to verify my hunch about it having supposed to have been "children." I'm assuming it was just cut off.