Arrows - BAE Hawk - 50mm - Second Thoughts & Crash?!?!
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I used to think only the newbies crash, but I see the old timers at the club crash all the time. The difference is when they crash it's because of an "electronic failure" and when the new people crash, they 'need more experience." lol
LOL - Exactly!!! I forgot, electronics failure - LOL
Everyone crashes and is prone to dumb thumbs. The only way to never crash---is never fly.
I didnt crash single time as a new i started crashing when i got more experienced(and more careless 😂)
Awesome. I can’t believe it flew so well after that. That definitely proves the plane and vector system are good, but your pilot skills most probably made it look a lot better.
Well done.
Thanks Dave ;) I agree that this plane is GREAT, even at "half off" she's still GREAT!!! LOL
Arrows planes fly when they are half broken. Comment of the year.
yes ;)
This is easily the best sales pitch I have seen for this plane! Epic!
LOL - Nice! I think they should just have me come on over to QVC ;)
Welcome to the Arrows club, we've all broken our BAE and Vipers at that exact place. These planes repair well.
I love this plane ;)
“Thumper”, AKA, the Flex Innovations QQ300 in my videos flew like garbage after an unplanned landing but cleared up after a power cycle. Apparently the gyro got its feelings hurt and needed to be rebooted. An older DJI drone did the same and actually needed a “nudge” of the onboard flight controller just to get the gyro numbers to settle back to center. While an actual hammer wasnt’t used, the concept of “get a bigger hammer…” sometimes still applies.
Interesting. I hate when the hammer is the only tool left that might get the job done - LOL ;)
Hi Brian. The FMS 80mm BAE Hawk is a fantastic plane that’s loved by many.
It's probably one of my best flying 80mm EDF Jets.
That’s hilarious and yeah a great advert for Arrows planes! I also love the BAE Hawk, such a nice looking plane. . . when it has a nose. Ahem.
Glad you enjoyed it
Brian... I expect nothing less.... After all its the ROYAL AIR FORCE the good ol stiff upper lip.. and carry on.. As monty python would say
TIS BUT A MERE FLESH WOUND
Best to you both
Brian 🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧
LOL - Exactly, just a flesh wound! Perfect!!!
How amazing was that, flying so well with all that fuselage missing. I hope Arrows sees the video, you may get a LARGE portrait of you and the BAE finding a home on the wall of their office. Sorry about the loss of the plane, but the video was wonderful. Oh yeah . . . I absolutely love your channel, you and "camera crew " are awesome!
It was awesome! I still have her waiting patiently to be put back to nearly 100% in about, I'd say, 15-30 minutes of effort. Then she'll cruise the skies with the best of them all over again ;)
I brought this plane from your link purely because of this video! I don’t plan on flying it without the front end, but it’s nice to know it could. Canopies are optional. 😂 Thanks for sharing a not so perfect moment. We all have them, we just don’t show it to everyone. 💪🏽
Big Props for being honest as you always do!
Thanks for helping us out. We love being in a place where we can just share the fun of this hobby, and even when things don't go right, it's still fun ;)
Hey, you've invented the Snubnose BAE Hawk! And, easier now to charge the battery while still in the plane! And, you cannot be accused of giving up too easy when aircraft issues occur! 👍👍
Exactly!!!
It's good to see an expert crash every now and then. Still a bummer though 😕
It was a bummer, but I eventually go over it - LOL ;) - like 1 minute later, while I was flying with the battery as the nose ;) LOL - Glad you enjoyed watching!
How many would have left crying after that crash? That was fantastic.
Thanks Matt ;)
That's the way to go!
I was flying it a lot on 4s 2300mah - had to remove some foam to shove it more to the back. It's awesome, but just as you said it "you need to give yourself more room". I am warning everyone of tip stalling due to extra weight. The recommended 3S 1800mah is 165g, while a 4s 2300mah is 230g. I
My main flying spot was a small field just next to my house - I had to make tight turns not to hit the forest or the houses on the other sides and I tip stalled a lot of times because of that - especially when turning against the wind. That thought me a lot, but after some time the whole front of the plane was more glue and carbon rods then foam xD But as you have provem, that does not matter much ;) For that field I bought 4S 1800mah batteries - 200g. I think this would be the optimal weight/flighttime
When I flew on the proper field - no obstacles, but higher wind, using 2300mah then it's just the most fun I ever had with RC! A little speed demon :)
I have ordered another one (since the first one was so banged up) AND a T-33 as well.
I agree about the 1800 4S - I need to get some of these sizes.
Glad to hear you got some new ones coming. GREAT planes!!!
I can’t believe you flew it after the crash. Hilarious!! Well done Brian!! 😂
It was the right thing to do ;) LOL
ALWAYS CHECK SURFACES BEFORE FLIGHT
yeah
I half expected you to crash it directly on the battery and cause a Lipo fire. Now that would have been a really exciting video. 🔥
Sorry to disappoint. I still was planning to fix the plane ;)
You obviously didn't see the pile of 55 gal fuel drums - LOL - JK - THAT would be cool!
Wonderful flight. I think you really saved it. I like the way shebran after. Rock on!!!
It was cool to see her flying around headless...
OH, THIS is what they mean by "HEADLESS MODE" on those drones??!? - LOL ;)
@@BrianPhillipsRC 😜 yea right. Headless mode. 😄🤣
That was hilarious! Good show my friend.
Glad you enjoyed it, Thanks!
You guys are awesome love your content , had me in tears this was such a good video, yours and camera crews comments and reactions are hilarious 😂
Glad we could bring a tear to your eye ;)... LOL
Amazing sales pitch Brian! I love the Arrows birds.
LOL :)
Thats one of the best flight demos I've seen
Thanks Craig!
Sadly the launch where it came down was stalled due the the high angle at launch.
However, epic to see it fly noseless 😂
yeah, it was a shame...I stalled it, and no opportunity to correct due to lack of rudder - Oh well, it setup a super fun video!!!
I like to see you rebuild this and try upgrading the power, maybe an xfly motor?, to see if you get even more speed.
90mm EDF???? LOL
I think the best thing to do with this type is just upgrade the ESC so you can full throttle no worry
Haha Good Fun! Cheers for the fun vid!
Thanks!
Aahhahaha!
One of Your Best Shows!
Great Stuff BPRC.
Glad you liked it!!!
Well that stopped alot of people who were thinking about ordering this plane 😴 well done Bri 😄😄
Including me..
I had the Marlin for a few month's and sold it before I did the same thing 😊
LOL - I think most people LOVE seeing a great crash ;) This was a fun day
You're so optimistic Brian! I love your style and even Megan's reactions! It´a pitty I live in Belgium and not near your property. I think we would fly all day long (and night) just having fun!
Oh yeah...next stunt, rip one wing off and fly it in edge 🤣
LOL - I think I need a rudder to fly with one wing ;)
@@BrianPhillipsRC Yeah!! Or a vector thrust pipe 🤪
I found out the hard way if your stabilization module isn't mounted firmly to the fuselage then it'll be just about uncontrollable. Especially if it's flopping around all willy nilly like
yes, very strange behavior for sure!
Surface check. She's going to fly again
YEAH!
😆Superb video. And was delighted to see that even the great BP can't catch that tip stall roll thing or what ever it was! Flying mine on 2200 3S and it's still a bugger for that, so, at least its not just me then!! What is that, is it an accelerated G stall perhaps ? Seems to throw it in whilst under speed and a bit of load. I've reduced the control throws to see if the inputs are maybe pulling in the final drag that's inducing this, not proven yet 'cos of rubbish wind and rain here in the UK tho'. Meantime, the dog walkers in the field are missing the aerobatic fun from this lil' foam Red Arrows Hawk (and tape and glue). Must try the no-nose config next time as that's where it separates on most outings!! Keep up the great work , Cheers.
LOL - Don't make a point of the nose job - puns intended - LOL (
Nice plane to fly for 160 bucks. Bought one. Worth the money.
Sure is! Especially since you can use a cheap Rx and get her flying GREAT too!
I have a arrows Bigfoot. The first 1 I got was a nightmare. Maiden flight it lost contact with the receiver. Ended up in a crash and I was on fire. Well come to find out hobby zone had got a bad batch. They squared me away way beyond my expectations. Their customer service is excellent.
Awesome they took care of you, but still sorry that you had that issue!
Brian you shoulld work for the Pentagon in the aircraft survivability in combat department......LOL!!!! Great video!!!!
LOL - Great Idea!!! Mandatory Mucilage in every jump suit - JUST IN CASE ;)
Gotta love that auto leveling for hand launches.
For real! Still need to have enough speed to make her fly, but boy, it HELPS!
⚠️ caution , lower volume warning needed. I had my ear buds cranking them up listening to that motor rip when you crashed. Lol Ouch !, In edited flights got to love them. Awesome video. Do a quick repair video for the newbies . I’m sure they’d learn a few tricks. I use Gorilla glue clear for foam. Love that shit.
Sorry for your hearing loss - LOL ;)
Maybe you can help me out. I just set up my BAE Hawk using a Spektrum ar 631 rx and NX 8 tx. I used this rx only because I had it in my spares box. Since it is a hand launch I wanted Safe. I removed the Vector module as unneeded. Every thing bound up fine, all control surfaces and throttle work as should except that in Safe mode the elevator works in reverse. The ailerons are working properly. The elevator works correctly using the tx stick. I am at a loss, and would appreciate any help. Thanks
First thing first...
All the surfaces MOVE in the correct direction as you command them from the Tx - No? Fix this and then continue... YES? Go back through RELEARN SERVO POSITIONS (or First Time AS3X Setup) where it asks you to put the plane level, then continue, and then on it's NOSE, and this will identify your Receiver's orientation...THIS IS CRUSTAL, and I've had one, and only one time, where the Rx disagreed with reality....ultimately, I ended up MANUALLY setting the orientation, and guess what...it was still wrong... I just made the adjustment and then it was fine.
Given you're going to do this, you need to be 100% sure the surfaces are...
1) Moving in the correct direction of command from the sticks
2) Correcting for AS3X in the SAME DIRECTION YOU MOVE THE PLANE
3) Correcting for Auto-Leveling the correct direction to restore level flight. Check the ailerons AND the elevator.
...then you'll be golden.
I think all you'll HAVE to do is RELEARN SERVO POSITIONS from forward programming, but if not, you might have to do the first time AS3X and then first time SAFE setup.
Should be about a 10 minute thing, so thankfully, not a giant time consuming fix.
Wow.. I'm sorry to see you crash... but somehow it always feels better when seeing more experienced pilots have the same issues as the novice flyers.
Again appreciate your humble channel
Thanks, and this was a fun video to put together! What a great plane!
That jet looks like OWEN WILSON LOL
LOL - Exactly! Now if Owen Wilson is watching, please accept my humble apologies ;)
Please show us the repair
I haven't repaired it. I have it in queue for repair. We've been running like crazy. Soon ;)
Nose? We don't need a nose where we're going.. Haha this is just a testimony of how good arrows really is. Buy one from the link! Haha great video as always, Brian and Camera Crew!
Thanks Dean!
Holy cow I can't believe how well it flew with no nose. 😁 Well at least we know if ya break the nose off it will still fly pretty dang good. 😂
Hate it broke but it was fun to watch. 🔥
It's just a 15-30 minute repair to near 100%. Been too busy to fix her last couple weeks, but soon ;)
When it crashed the first time something came off in the grass.
I don't recall seeing anything...
This looks like how my day would go trying to fly one of these planes lol
l
It's a fun way to spend a day!
Wait, you took the nose off and flew it? Holy cow!
Well, it was kinda "self-inflicted" - LOL ;)
LOL, you are such a nut Brian ! Just loven it man ! Awesome as always ! I hate that you broke the plane but, just AWESOME !
Nahhh, It can be fixed in like 15 minutes, all but the paint on the tip...super easy...this was just a fun plane and a fun experience. Loving the Arrows lineup!
Do you think that Arrows would make a Canadian Snowbirds edf canadair t-114. They look sharp in the air. How do you make a suggestion?
That would be cool! I love discovering all these new planes I had no clue about just a few years ago...and I'm an aviation nut!??!
Brian, I have an Arrows BAE Hawk 50 mm EDF. I have just put together an Arrows Avanti S. You tried a 4S battery in the BAE Hawk and Fat Guy Flys did the same on your effort with the Avanti S. You both found no problems. Has this held up on further flights? I have bought 4 - 1800mah Liperior 80C batteries from RC Battery which seems to balance easier than you using a 2200mah battery? Comments?
SWEET Brian
I thought so ;)
That was great brian . Good job on the fix. Motion rc has the bae in Grey base. Painting it yourself is great. Flys really greay
I want it. MotionRC doesn't want to work with us. Their loss ;(
@@BrianPhillipsRC that's too bad for them. I have problems with them when spare parts are needed. They are always out of stock. I end up going straight to freewing
That’s what happens when I hit the ground , always a spat
I suppose
my godness
Did you enjoy the franken-flight???
I know your a closet rcsaylors mega fan but crashing on purpose to try n be his besty with forced sympathy strategic stick movements is over the top, heha .. you made me laugh. TY for putting out such great content, seriously, you 2 are next level
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LOL - Toooo good - LOL ;)
...keep em coming Robert - I think you had me rolling the other day too.
We just had the dialog the other day about the questionable chromosone couple that crashed,and out of the blue u "not purposely" downed a similiar EDF , Im not Columbo by any stretch of the fashion, but if i was id probably be reading you your Miranda's warnings heha. that second one that broke the nose lol, well that just compleeted my work day, you guys always come thru, laughter is good for the soul, stay healthy you 2 🤣😍
If you’ve got a 1800 or under 4s battery lying around, throw one in the arrows viper! Heard it works almost the same to that!
I did and the esc didnt last
We're planning on it....4S, but don't have 1800mah
@@BrianPhillipsRC if you do be careful with the 2200s. I did my maiden on a 3s 2200 and it flew heavy with poor elevator control
If this line had removable fixed gear i would buy one .a Arrows f-86 is coming also
I like this plane with smooth belly for landing, but if there were flaps, rudder, and retracts - Oh boy...it would be fantastic!!!
Man u should b playin lottery ur so lucky. If that was me that plane would have never flew again but it awesome it did for u
LOL - I dropped an 18 mm wrench today, and instead of falling inside a machine, it SHOT out at me feet - 1:10,000,000,000 chance - I said to the guy I was working with, "I need to go buy a lotto ticket" - LOL ;)
those handle great..no surprises
Except if you don't get her flying on launch ;) LOL
@@BrianPhillipsRC that goes for all...i have had many hand launch planes have not so good maidens for sure...
Just wondering if 2200 3s would work?
Well, might be a bit lacking on power with that bigger pack...worth a shot!
Wow. I nominate you for best hand toss of the year! (First one if you were wondering lol) What do you think the best all around 50mm edf jet would be?
I don't want to say what is the best 50mm, since that's so subjective, but of the Arrows we've reviewed, they are all very good, but the T-33 is the best overall plane, in my opinion, even thought I probably like this and the Viper better, in terms of the plane...I like the full scale planes better ;)
Yikes....Its a glue day...Love the 4S.did you change the ESC....Lets see their T33 on 4S
Nope, just stock ESC. Might be an issue in the long run, but it was fun!
Great video, Brian !!
Thanks Roger!!!
The only guys who wouldn't fix a plane broken cleanly like that is one who gets them for free from a sponsor! Let the Hawk rise again.
🤣
I've fixed many-a-plan for your viewing pleasure....they too were sent for review ;)
Have(you) been up in the air yet? I'm going end of April
Flying PPG - Yes, but I don't think I had when we filmed this. Our "second thoughts" videos are recorded and kept to be run opposite a "new release" when possible. We used to release 6-7 videos a week, and it was insane on us, and didn't leave time for people to watch. Now we've tried to settle into a Tues / Thursday release schedule, and occasionally a Sunday evening "off topic" video or similar, so our audience doesn't mutiny - LOL - they DO ever time I review a leaf blower, or an Ebike, it seems - LOL ;)
can't beleive you didn't use safe on that takeoff
LOL - Yeah, I succumbed to gravity - LOL
Your by far best flight 🤣👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍
Thanks ;)
What does the ,hot water do?
Phil - I can't reply to your comment for some unknown reason...but to answer your quesiton...the hot water makes the foam expand and allows it to return to the original shape. It's almost like magic ;) Give it a shot the next time you find a tree instead of the runway ;)
@@BrianPhillipsRC dont have to wait..i have plenty of bent foam.
Hello Brian😁🍻🍻🍻🍻🍻
Hello there!
Think of the cooling efficiency
😅🤣😅
Exactly!!!
Great plane but flying that on 4s for two long I cant see it lasting. The esc is only 30amps.
I think it would be just fine...look how well mine turned out - LOL ;)
That's awesome
I was impressed it actually worked!!!
I'll call that a rough landing
It was a BIT rough ;)
Is the motor ok with 4s?
Seems to do okay so far.
@@BrianPhillipsRC yes but is it rated for 4s ? Thank you
Man u guys crack me up ;. )
Awesome! Thanks Shane!
LMAO hey good for you, nothing edited on this video! I prefer the honesty about a plane and how it will fly. And now I know I don't need the entire plane. who cares about aerodynamics??
LOL - Exactly ;) We try to show all the fun stuff we do, without suggesting "dangerous" things to the inter-web ;)
Bad ass man
Thanks Shane ;) Was super fun!
Arrows bae hawk stage 2
nice
😮😮
LOL
This video made me laugh
Mission accomplished ;)
鼻先が無くなっても飛ぶのか⁉️👍
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thanks!
🤣 I would have done the same thing. I never like seeing anyone crash. That’s a cool plane but that livery is 🤮. Thanks for sharing. Everyone crashes including CZcams creators lol. But not everyone shares. I’m pretty good as long as I say clear of trees. Seems there’s some sort of magnetic attraction between trees and styrofoam.
Yep! Thanks ;)
You crash airplane's? Naaaaa. You to good a pilot.
LOL - Everyone crashed ;)
Holy shit people still wear visors?? I cant even watch this video bc im too focused on the effin visor
LOL - Not the first person to care, but I'm all about utility. I don't really care what people think. I want the sunglasses EXACTLY where I put them, AND need the bill for protection from the sun. I could care less to win a beauty contest.
@@BrianPhillipsRC im just being a troll bro no real hate here i do enjoy your vids tho lucky guy to have the collection yoy have plus the area to fly it. Yoy keep making vids ill keep watching
🤣🤣🤣 crazy 🤪
Thanks!
Muito lindo me da de presente um .
Link to buy one is in the description ;)
They call me 4s Bob. I convert most things to a 4s or just use a 4s cuz at our altitude most planes fly much better on a 4s.
Nice!
Rip plane for today lol
LOL yep!
It Was Just Too Nose Heavy! 🤣🤣 1/3 Off Price Sale It Now??? $25-$25-$25, Can I Hear $30? 🤣🤣 Broken Arrows - The New Toucan Bare Hawk... 😎
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Bro! 🤣🤣🤣
Glad you liked it ;)
LOL!
Super fun this was!
Lol 😂
Thanks ;)
Great video! Just started my rc hobby now and have a trainer but looking to buy some planes, if anyone is selling i would definitely consider buying so please respond if so.
There's links to buy, if you want to get the planes we review.